Contessa 35, an open ocean Boat Tutorial!

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  • čas přidán 8. 06. 2016
  • As promised, a little tour on my boat "TESSIE".
    There has been a lack of wind the last few weeks here now. Suddenly it came, and instead of making a dry, boring tutorial in port, I thought why not make it in some rough weather, in the right invironment :)
    I have found out making tutorial vids are not my thing at all, to much talking, and to much to remember but I did my best and have probably forgotten a lot of details, but whatever.
    Making films of my expeditions is what I do best and love.
    Anyway, ask questons in the commentfield or facebook and Ill answer about anything!
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Komentáře • 231

  • @AdventuresofanoldSeadog
    @AdventuresofanoldSeadog Před 8 lety +6

    Last year I was next to a Contest 35 in Portugal. The owner who was 70 lived a board. Good boats.

  • @UmbertoSandri
    @UmbertoSandri Před 4 měsíci +3

    Contessa 35, now I found the information I was looking for. Beautiful!

  • @CoastLife
    @CoastLife Před 7 lety +14

    I love that your sailing up north. We're just learning to sail off the coast of Nova Scotia.

  • @travelbywater9378
    @travelbywater9378 Před 7 lety +38

    Awesome review, I like how the entire review was done under way.

  • @estebanlore1180
    @estebanlore1180 Před 7 lety +8

    Congratulation this is the best sailing channel on youtube. No bullshit just sailing!!! It would be great some sailing teachings in hard conditions for only one man!!! greetings from argentina!!!

  • @leonlerdo
    @leonlerdo Před 6 lety +31

    Erik your videos are really amazing! I will really apreciate if time to time you upload videos showing (teaching) tips and different aspects related with solo sailing. Good winds for you!

  • @shoestringsailor3889
    @shoestringsailor3889 Před 8 lety +16

    Brilliant boat, brilliant films. Thanks.

  • @trevbjo
    @trevbjo Před 6 lety +14

    Your videos have inspired me a lot to sail like my Swedish, Danish ancestors did. I think I want to buy 40-45 foot. It will be my home. I want to be able to comfortably sail anywhere. From Southern California to Hawaii, then Australia and vietnam, china then back down west coast to San Diego. Then on a truck to Houston Texas. After it gets to Houston I want to sail around Caribbean a little then up coast to and to Greenland. I was stationed there in the Air Force in the 70's. After Greenland I'll go to Iceland then to your country and Sweden, Denmark. Hang around there for awhile. Then to England, Scotland, and back to US. This is my dream so I need to have a boat strong enough to do all this. I will be 62 in October and I will start this adventure in the spring I hope. I'll look for a boat starting in Seattle and working my way down until I find one then sail down to Santa Monica area in California where I am from. Learn how to sail close to shore before I start my Hawaii trip. Your videos are beautiful. Being Swedish, Danish I am not supposed to like Norway. Haha but it is so beautiful... I will definitely come pay Norway a visit. Keep up the videos. I like them very much.

    • @DobruchT
      @DobruchT Před 5 lety +2

      Nice plan! So, a year later, are you fulfilling it? How's it coming along? Cheers!

    • @yuron8210
      @yuron8210 Před 5 lety +1

      nice blogpost

    • @cosmosradio
      @cosmosradio Před 5 lety

      @@DobruchT I'd like to know too

    • @StarxPlayz7
      @StarxPlayz7 Před 4 lety

      N .Tilev i think he is dreaming.hehehhe

  • @87sport
    @87sport Před 8 lety +12

    really love your videos! finally sailing videos that show sailing instead of partying, and junk. keep up the great work, love the islands you sail to as well! I sail North Atlantic (Canada) weather is much the same.

    • @von4764
      @von4764 Před 3 lety

      @@erikaanderaa yes, yes there is

  • @13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51

    who were the 5 people that DIDN`T like this vid ,,, are they crazy ,,,,,
    FANTASTIC AS USUAL Erik ,
    Your a legend Brother .

  • @massimoamerica6726
    @massimoamerica6726 Před 8 lety +5

    Nice stuff Erik! Looking forward to that Faroe Island voyage :)

  • @pgtrots
    @pgtrots Před 8 lety +2

    Beautiful boat, looks like a great day of sailing. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @tomhuss972
    @tomhuss972 Před 8 lety +1

    always good to watch your vlog have a good time on your holiday can't wait to see the trip

  • @waynejones1083
    @waynejones1083 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks Erik, another great inspirational vid.

  • @GSAirTherapy
    @GSAirTherapy Před 8 lety +8

    Just absolutely amazing, Erik! Thanks a ton for sharing - very much looking forward to your Faroe Island trip!

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 Před 5 lety +1

    Erik , we love your content. Best wishes.

  • @seayak
    @seayak Před 7 lety +20

    I have a 1980 Canadian C&C 30 with a masthead rig similar to yours. My boat also has the halyards led to the mast base as on your boat (you called them reefing lines but I think you were talking about halyards), and I see no need to change the setup, since you have to go to the mast base anyway to secure the tack of the mainsail when reefing. Shouldn't be too hard to fix that hatch leak and to clear what I hope is a plugged drainage hole in the anchor locker. On a previous boat I had a similar problem with seepage from the locker, and solved the problem by filling the very bottom of the locker with thickened epoxy so that it sloped toward the drain hole. Friend of mine keeps a plastic sink scrubber at the bottom of the locker to keep mud from plugging the drain hole, and this trick has worked for me as well.

    • @klausjensen9150
      @klausjensen9150 Před 5 lety

      ditto that Bruce , mine is 1974 but i did fabricate a mast ring to fit over the casting and set up a small armada of blocks to bring the lines back to a pair of secondary winches and clutches . AT least i have the halyards and a reef ready to go , including spare halyards if needed , ( spinnaker/ drifter ) . Sailing alone mostly so i have to go forward to deal with the sail anyway . Cant afford furling , and dont really want it . The head sail sets so much nicer on hanks , but i do have to go forward to do a sail change in shit weather . oh well .

  • @kimosabi860
    @kimosabi860 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Erik. As always, great stuff. So fun to sail with you. Your boat is a hardcore vessel. Cant wait for more new stuff soon. Be safe

  • @andrewduthie7184
    @andrewduthie7184 Před 7 lety +4

    Great footage. Well done - Viking Man.

  • @FatTonyCologino
    @FatTonyCologino Před 7 lety +1

    I love your boat man! it's brilliant!

  • @SVELFARO
    @SVELFARO Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks for the tour underway, and for another nice video. -Dave

  • @stephenmundane
    @stephenmundane Před 8 lety +5

    Great to see you out on the open water with a full headsail Erik -- cheers for the tour *edit very much looking forward to watching your trip to the Faroe Islands*

  • @marycmcnaught
    @marycmcnaught Před 8 lety +2

    Nice tour of Tessie. Thank you for showing us around. Cheers Mary

  • @skipperandy8081
    @skipperandy8081 Před 8 lety +7

    My fellow Viking, great job as usual, and 8 knots, wow!,

  • @rbaldino333
    @rbaldino333 Před 8 lety +1

    Thanks Eric, Great Video, nice to see the whole boat. Really looking forward to seeing the Faroe Island Cruise, they look amazing. Keep up the good work.

  • @cyclistsailor2112
    @cyclistsailor2112 Před 3 lety

    Great work Eric! hoping to do some videos in much warmer conditions myself. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @alexs.9261
    @alexs.9261 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful boat! And you proved how good it is!

  • @sco3592
    @sco3592 Před 3 lety

    I am in awe of you and your sailing vessel. I am inspired by you.

  • @erikhemmingsson1188
    @erikhemmingsson1188 Před 7 lety +3

    Brilliant stuff, thank you, very inspirational!

  • @terencelonergan
    @terencelonergan Před 6 lety

    Another great short film 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @stevesimonsgaard973
    @stevesimonsgaard973 Před 4 lety +2

    For a desert lover, like myself, I love your channel. Keep sailing my friend.

  • @nicolasbouyiouclis4726
    @nicolasbouyiouclis4726 Před 5 lety +3

    What can I say Erik, I really appreciate your videos..
    Fair winds! to you brother, try to eat better and be safe!

  • @rimasmeleshyus6545
    @rimasmeleshyus6545 Před 4 lety +1

    Great boat Contessa 35 . The most all are so good Contessa small and big . Fair winds captain

  • @michaeldelisle9093
    @michaeldelisle9093 Před 6 lety +2

    Beautiful boat, Contesssa's are great boats!

  • @jamesmurphy8121
    @jamesmurphy8121 Před 7 lety +4

    Great videos Erik. Hope you get to the faerow islands. I had to pull out my world atlas to find them. Keep it up! No bullshit, just sailing!👌👌👌

  • @evankrhodes
    @evankrhodes Před 2 lety

    Thank you for sharing brother. I truly appreciate your videos.

  • @gordon6029
    @gordon6029 Před 7 lety

    Instant follower! Thank you so much for the videos.

  • @dienekesghost6132
    @dienekesghost6132 Před 4 lety

    I really enjoy your videos! I will have a similar boat someday soon! Thanks!

  • @mcjocabe06
    @mcjocabe06 Před 4 lety

    Erik, I have been researching for a bigger boat and beginning ti think this model is the right one all around.Thanks for posting.

  • @wellstone1897
    @wellstone1897 Před 2 lety

    Wow...watching this video now(2021) I see your boat and channel have improved a lot. Congrats Erik! You giving me the motivation I need to set this next step in my life. Thanks!

  • @scottengh1175
    @scottengh1175 Před 4 lety +1

    Tusen takk. Beautiful lady. Love that she is from 1976.

  • @mboyer68
    @mboyer68 Před 3 lety

    It's amazing that all the force of the sail and the main sheet pulling it in goes through the tiny little pin at the bottom of the side stay. Crazy!

  • @MegaGus66
    @MegaGus66 Před 8 lety

    nice boat and tidy, good for you to used the requisite security measures when you are on deck, safety first and foremost.
    I wish you a good trips and a nice experience Erik

  • @tjacobsen5131
    @tjacobsen5131 Před rokem

    Love the contessa boats!

  • @ilCignoTube
    @ilCignoTube Před 8 lety +1

    Nice boat Erik! Doing 8 knots under a reefed headsail only is indeed not bad at all.
    Looking forward to your next episode. Cheers, Timo

  • @oceancowboy3573
    @oceancowboy3573 Před 7 lety +1

    Awesome videos Erik y'all have some big seas over there thanks brother Ocean cowboy

  • @simonsargent9514
    @simonsargent9514 Před 8 lety

    You are lucky to have found something that you truly love, enjoyed the video...

  • @berniecoles2337
    @berniecoles2337 Před 2 lety

    Living the life that due to commitments many can only dream of. Frankly I’m jealous and wish you fair winds and safe passages.😊👍

  • @prflyer68
    @prflyer68 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the Contessas

  • @twopheew9995
    @twopheew9995 Před 5 lety +1

    Beautiful boat!

  • @Jayboy72
    @Jayboy72 Před 7 lety

    Nice work.. Very informative, entertaining and inspirational! 😉👌

  • @alposimani2295
    @alposimani2295 Před 3 lety

    awesome Erik. One day I will have my Contessa and sail throughout Polynesia, where I live.

  • @dennisfromoz6436
    @dennisfromoz6436 Před 4 lety

    Luv "Tessie"....Thanks Erik....she is lovely.

  • @EmptyNestOutdoors
    @EmptyNestOutdoors Před 8 lety +1

    Great tour of one fast boat! Thanks!

  • @mcgama88
    @mcgama88 Před 6 lety

    Sleet and rain over snow on ground and roof, WA State US. AT once, I returned to putting my 12 foot outboard, midnight and running the river with no lights 18 miles. Summer, and alive, years ago. You remind me to set my course to adventure and live my dream.
    McGary

  • @billturner2360
    @billturner2360 Před 7 lety +45

    8 knots on the head sail alone..... I love your boat

    • @TheSailingBrothers
      @TheSailingBrothers Před 5 lety +1

      He may have had a bit of tide with him got to take that into consideration I suppose

    • @iamich7048
      @iamich7048 Před 5 lety

      ...and it is SOG!

    • @UAPJedi
      @UAPJedi Před 5 lety +1

      The sailing Brothers seen quite a few of his videos 7 and 8 knots seem about standard for him on just the headsail.

    • @nickbenfell4327
      @nickbenfell4327 Před rokem

      Optomistic

    • @nickbenfell4327
      @nickbenfell4327 Před rokem

      @@TheSailingBrothers Tide would make no difference as it is speed through the water.

  • @sydneydalpe7818
    @sydneydalpe7818 Před 2 lety

    "Hot water is for chickens " 😂. It would be great on a t-shirt with your logo. 👍👍

  • @dalehilltopfarm
    @dalehilltopfarm Před 3 lety

    Always excellent!

  • @tommypetraglia4688
    @tommypetraglia4688 Před 6 lety +1

    When I die instead of coming back as my cat, as I've always wanted, I now want to come back as this guy. What a perfect craft, beautiful vessel and well-balanced rig as you could see the autopilot is not working too hard holding it on course and her making way through heavy weather is not too jarring
    I like the deck mounted winches at the foot of the mast, this way doesn't clutterof the cockpit with excess line and more Hardware and line on Deck and less line to stretch when you're under a strain. And like you said it gives you a reason to come up on the deck and with practice it's a quick job of it.
    I don't know if since this video things have changed for you is but I have two points of advice from an old salt yacht rigger if I may be as bold to offer to you..
    Two wraps of rigging tape around the turnbuckle clevis pins where they make up to the chain plate will hold in place the splints (as you call them...cotter pins as we do here) should they be tempted to jiggle loose... ESPECIALLY AT THE HEADSTAY where dock lines and Mooring lines and anchor lines are known to have the propensity to straighten out many a cotter pin unbeknownst to the crew with the forward and aft moving of the mast being enough to work out an unpinned Clevis
    Just two wraps, we were not trying to hold anything in, simply protecting the splints from getting pulled and straightened usually by a line dragged across, as my old timey rigging boss would call "belt and suspenders"
    I see you do your pre-sailing inspections but this assures and gives peace of mind from something from going amiss underway and we would carry out the same inspection except remove the tape eyeball everything and then rewrap with fresh tape.
    Second ... now I don't like seeing you clipping your tether to the halyard that way. It works in a pinch but there's nothing forward of the mast so you'd be best to run Jack lines of the webbing kind ... 6000 lbs strong durable flat Under Foot and easy to run each time before you set sail the way you run your jib sheets, taking them in when once back at the dock or Mooring. I am of the Vintage from back before the Advent of webbing for Jack lines and spent a lot of time with 3/4" line rolling Under Foot
    I know you know this and I'm not trying to tell you something that you don't already know but next time you do a video I want to see Jack lines running fore and aft port and starboard so that we don't have to worry... Got it? Just a man old enough to be your father giving you some brotherly advice.
    Thank you for your wonderful videos and sharing what you do with all of us in all your enthusiasm which, for a Norwegian based on those I've known and with whom I have shipped (Capt Ed Landy for one)... Yours is quite extended

    • @nickbenfell4327
      @nickbenfell4327 Před rokem

      With regard to your first paragraph see my comment. Are you aware the Contessa is a one tonner under the IOR rule.

  • @adalbertomonteiro60
    @adalbertomonteiro60 Před rokem

    Um ótimo barco e mar do jeito que gosto. grato por compartilhar as imagens. Saudações do Brasil

  • @thomas_5131
    @thomas_5131 Před 8 lety

    i'm French and I like very well what you do! +1 sub ;)
    nice wind !

  • @djdarksidejungle559
    @djdarksidejungle559 Před 2 lety

    well Erik i dig your channel i found it by accident but i'm liking it

  • @CaptainFancy
    @CaptainFancy Před 5 lety

    I recognize that music at the end. It's a theme tune from World of Warcraft as you enter certain areas within the game. My favorite piece :) Great video

  • @thefullmonte1902
    @thefullmonte1902 Před 5 lety

    Great review where we can see and learn about the technical stuff. Usually people show how, but not why. That annoys me tremendously! 😉
    Best regards from Denmark/Montenegro!

  • @glennholmgren1
    @glennholmgren1 Před 7 lety

    Awesome, love your videos!

  • @brucekratky7993
    @brucekratky7993 Před 8 lety +8

    Love your videos, particularly the drone shots. The tour of the boat was wonderful. I've been considering a Contessa and flip between 26, 32, and 35. The 32 has the fame, the 26 the folksiness, but the 35 is under rated. I'd love my wife to sail some day with me but that does not look like it will happen so a smaller boat like yours makes sense. You prove the Contessa 35 a nice boat too. On a nautical side...never give up on a leak.;)

    • @cosmosradio
      @cosmosradio Před 5 lety

      Do you think a 35 would be hard to sail alone?

    • @nickbenfell4327
      @nickbenfell4327 Před 8 měsíci

      The 26 and the 32 are designed as cruising yachts the 35 as an IOR One tonner to race in the one ton cup. To really pick up what that means look at the Oyster 37 and the Oyster Heritage 37 - one designed as a one tonner the other as a cruising boat refer to sailing Florence.

  • @ralphderkapitaen9875
    @ralphderkapitaen9875 Před 7 lety

    beautiful boat! and great sailing videos! thx

  • @brendanpayne115
    @brendanpayne115 Před 7 lety +4

    Sailing is uncomfortable, uncompromising and unbeatable. Great show Erik!

    • @walterstrong6386
      @walterstrong6386 Před 7 lety

      Brendan, it's uncomfortable because he's sailing a MONOHULL!!

  • @kevinkelly6170
    @kevinkelly6170 Před 4 lety

    Great video, like your setup. Hope you get the bow hatch sorted out

  • @peterwillems3806
    @peterwillems3806 Před 2 lety

    Nice tour guide. Fair winds

  • @rexstiger6090
    @rexstiger6090 Před 2 lety

    Always like to see the boat details to get an idea of what you are sailing. Thanks.

  • @superformOG
    @superformOG Před 6 lety

    haha can't believe you mentioned the shroud pins, the only time i lost my mast on a little 16 foot cat inshore was because my g/f didn't put the port shroud pin in after putting the mast up.. i sailed off on a starboard tack and when i went about the mast fell over, that boat also had plastic tubing that covered the shroud pin connections, they had just enough friction to hold the shroud in place when there was no weight on the shroud, so ever after that i would always double check them after putting the mast up, its good to see that you carry these seamanship basics into bigger boats

  • @OrangeParrotProductions

    Great video Erik.👍

  • @nicholasfernandes2217
    @nicholasfernandes2217 Před 5 lety

    Awesome Eric. Congratulation from Brazil.

  • @arumrunner
    @arumrunner Před 8 lety +2

    Thanks for sharing, I have always loved all of the Contessa vessels, in fact it was Tania Aebi on her Contessa 26 that first sparked my inner desire to head out to sea. Here in Canada there are still lots of Contessas around, strong solid vessels.
    I did not see a cabin heater... no need for heat after a cold, wet passage...

  • @alanmellor8002
    @alanmellor8002 Před 4 lety

    Great channel. You are inspiring if nothing else. thanks for the great videos!!! I sail in San Diego, Ca our bay is super tame compared to your sailing grounds!

  • @NaughtyGoatFarm
    @NaughtyGoatFarm Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful yacht.

  • @johngungortekin453
    @johngungortekin453 Před 4 lety +1

    👍 good work buddy

  • @tommypetraglia4688
    @tommypetraglia4688 Před 6 lety +14

    4:34 "... doing 8.5, 8.7 knots under just the head Sail..."
    He's just being modest. He's doing 8 knots on a 50% headsail! That right there shows how perfectly designed this boat is for its size to be making that kind of speed in those conditions on such shortened sail is how can I say... totally awesome and very impressive.
    I know it's one of the seven sins but boy I'm jealous

    • @nicolasbouyiouclis4726
      @nicolasbouyiouclis4726 Před 5 lety

      Me too!

    • @lyntonhowes5154
      @lyntonhowes5154 Před rokem

      Not sure what the WLL of a Contessa 35 is but for 35ft WLL the hull speed is only 7.93 knots?

    • @nickbenfell4327
      @nickbenfell4327 Před rokem

      See my comments about Contessa 35's - they are far from a perfect design but are fact a rule pusher for IOR racing.

  • @fernandogagliardo6618
    @fernandogagliardo6618 Před 5 lety

    Very nice marine boat Erik !

  • @rimasmeleshyus6545
    @rimasmeleshyus6545 Před 5 lety

    Contessa it’s my dream to get and sail to around the world. Thank you for the video.

  • @kouldream1
    @kouldream1 Před 2 lety

    It's nice to see you sailing on a contest. This Saturday we will get our classic Contest 38. We are looking forward to sail with here. Have a lot too learn first.

  • @john9291
    @john9291 Před 5 lety

    Great video. Lovely lines of the Contessa 35, very strong and fast boat. You should really replace your front hatch and go to the effort of stopping the leaks. A leaky boat is pain. I watch this at a time when we are trying to sell our boat. I sometimes ask myself why when I see these videos, the freedom is alluring.

  • @svgenie3295
    @svgenie3295 Před 6 lety +55

    "Hot water's for chickens" lol 😄

    • @mhansl
      @mhansl Před 4 lety

      I am so going to use that line.

    • @davidschwartz5127
      @davidschwartz5127 Před 2 lety

      I like hot water though for taking a shower, but I have done without it many times,

  • @cessrcd
    @cessrcd Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for showing us round Erik, Odin speed

  • @helixkimara
    @helixkimara Před 7 lety +11

    Very well done Erik, You deserve as much pillage, plunder and beer as you can handle after that trip.

  • @gonagain
    @gonagain Před 6 lety +4

    Erik, the "splints" are what we call cotter pins. I like your videos because they show what ocean cruising is really like.

  • @legend343
    @legend343 Před 7 lety +16

    I'm an Englishman living in Sweden and geezer you ARE a real live Viking, love your channel.!!!!
    Do you have your autopilot set to wind direction or compass course in this video.?
    Warren
    s/y Legend

  • @jjohnbrown1221
    @jjohnbrown1221 Před 4 lety

    On your V Birth hatch leak. One youtuber uses AC/heating duct insulation for sealing hatches. One 20 euro sheet will redo all your hatch seals twice. Also I keep aquarium leak silicone on hand. It works fast in a pinch and when you have time for a proper fix, it pulls off easily without harming woodwork.

  • @mobydick6420
    @mobydick6420 Před 8 lety

    Dyn-o-mite. Looking forward to the Shetlands.

  • @Darkwell0071
    @Darkwell0071 Před 5 lety +2

    Contessa 35 I could guess the length but did not know the brand. Nice boat great size for solo me Catalina 34 with Rzytheon autopilot

  • @pawelkumorkiewicz
    @pawelkumorkiewicz Před 4 lety

    Wall done Eric, balls made out of steel.

  • @gusoliverbar9392
    @gusoliverbar9392 Před 6 lety

    loved thanks!

  • @Swazi1337
    @Swazi1337 Před 6 lety

    stumbled on this channel.... subbed

  • @andrealti1158
    @andrealti1158 Před 8 lety +2

    You are the epitome of a Viking. Truly inspirational. Your achor locker is always leaking into your v-berth. Have you drilled a whole or even one on each side? I would be worried that the fibreglass will get weak if it is constantly soaked. Fair winds and happy sailing.

  • @Stenogramyzbrodni
    @Stenogramyzbrodni Před rokem +1

    And this is no bullshit tutorial!

  • @michaellorke1980
    @michaellorke1980 Před 4 lety +2

    absolutely love the contessa yachts, both the 32 and the 35, where did you find this gem.....

  • @HeinerStorch
    @HeinerStorch Před 4 lety

    Well done. Go ahead. Heinz

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 Před 4 lety

    I do like! Thankyou!!

  • @candylel5369
    @candylel5369 Před 7 lety

    Hey Eric, I have an idea!! What about finding an iceberg and sailing past that? It certainly would look magnificent from the drone. As long as you were safe in the process. That would be the ultimate NBSJS!!