Great talk! While researching my family genealogy I found 3 relatives who were soldiers at the presidio. They came as a job (my relatives)but the people they protected came as "pioneers", who were under agreement with the king of Spain to settle areas for more civilized Spanish to occupy later. In exchange they would be able to have a piece to settle for themselves hence some of mine stayed there and others went on to settle LosAngeles or LasVegas villiage Colorado. My family's home was on court and meter, the parking lot was placed over the area near the court intentionally because only the soldiers bones were moved, the poor we're given time to move but had to pay someone to do it! So many of our bones lie there. My grandfather studied the areas Adobe buildings for the University, and explored options to preserve them. My family names are Fimbres, de Aldai, Bravo, and Montano. The Chinese who were sent were not laborors it was an honor, they were nominated by their towns back home, only the best businessmen. After they were forced off of the rails. they were only allowed to CLERK the stores and work in mines, no ownership allowed but some had deals with the owners.
33:00 Mexican sugar during that time came from the current day State of Morelos (Cocoyoc), near Cuautla, Morelos. There are still sugar plantations in that area, and remnants all the way back to the 1520s.
At 21.15 aprox..homer mentioned 1 of 3 old bells being at a church in town. Do you happen to have an address for the church. Pope Pius I think is what he said.
I believe it's the Saint Pius X Church, 1800 N. Camino Pio Decimo. You might enjoy this article for more information: tucson.com/news/local/netos-tucson-209-year-old-presidio-bell-to-ring-again/article_00cd0536-aede-5b73-96c1-38074a6b0edb.html
LOVED this talk! Thanx SO much! I loved the comments so much too!
Great talk! While researching my family genealogy I found 3 relatives who were soldiers at the presidio. They came as a job (my relatives)but the people they protected came as "pioneers", who were under agreement with the king of Spain to settle areas for more civilized Spanish to occupy later. In exchange they would be able to have a piece to settle for themselves hence some of mine stayed there and others went on to settle LosAngeles or LasVegas villiage Colorado. My family's home was on court and meter, the parking lot was placed over the area near the court intentionally because only the soldiers bones were moved, the poor we're given time to move but had to pay someone to do it! So many of our bones lie there.
My grandfather studied the areas Adobe buildings for the University, and explored options to preserve them.
My family names are Fimbres, de Aldai, Bravo, and Montano.
The Chinese who were sent were not laborors it was an honor, they were nominated by their towns back home, only the best businessmen. After they were forced off of the rails. they were only allowed to CLERK the stores and work in mines, no ownership allowed but some had deals with the owners.
What a badass video.
Thanks Homer! D'oh!
33:00 Mexican sugar during that time came from the current day State of Morelos (Cocoyoc), near Cuautla, Morelos. There are still sugar plantations in that area, and remnants all the way back to the 1520s.
Sugarcane was being grown in Sonora since the 17th century, so doubtful it came from so far away.
26:16 Veracruz is on the East Coast, not the West Coast.
So, you probably meant Acapulco.
At 21.15 aprox..homer mentioned 1 of 3 old bells being at a church in town. Do you happen to have an address for the church. Pope Pius I think is what he said.
I believe it's the Saint Pius X Church, 1800 N. Camino Pio Decimo. You might enjoy this article for more information: tucson.com/news/local/netos-tucson-209-year-old-presidio-bell-to-ring-again/article_00cd0536-aede-5b73-96c1-38074a6b0edb.html
What is the club or group homer mentioned at approx 5:50 of modern tucson families with long tucson ties.
Los Descendientes del Presidio
de Tucson: www.descendientes.org/
Thank you for the response!
My pleasure!
It's pronounced Con er exactly the same as in English, just different spelling.