The Bankrupt Business of Boxing
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- Dana White talks with Vivek Ramaswamy about the fight business. White explains that boxing follows a "going out of business sale" financial model, meaning that there is limited leftover money to be re-invested after fighters and expenses have been paid. He explains how this can be a problem for boxing fans, who are often the ones hurt by sport politics.
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Boxing is obviously the better sport to be a top athlete in. HOWEVER... Fighters having superior leverage makes exciting match-ups happen less often. While I want fighters to be paid... also want competitive and timely bouts.
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that's not because of fighters leverage. And the fact you hint at that is awful to do. Thats because of corrupt sanctioning bodies and promoters. If the ufc continue going the way they do with pay. They will lose their belts due to congress threatening to put bills in like the Ali acts etc in the sport. getting a fair share shouldn't have anything to do with leverage.
Mma is a way better sport
Idk about obviously or at all actually
Give MMA time.....time is what MMA needs
And they can still happen thanks to sanctioning bodies sometimes forcing the fights, unlike MMA where they never happen because they won’t cross promote for anything.
The average ufc fighter(not mma fighter, but the ufc is pretty much interchangeable with mma) makes more than the average boxer. The stars in mma make less than the stars in boxing.
Wayy less mma is taking over cause in boxing the top dog are ducking other top dogs , that being said 2023 was a great year for both boxing and mma
@@joeltaylorthethird5443 i think for a really long time , boxers padding their records and ducking top level competition has been a huge problem but with the whole boxing scene in saudi, things have gotten a lot better. Fury vs usyk, ngannou joshua , beterbiev bivol and a lot of fun matchups have been made in boxing that are long overdue but im happy theyre happening
@@aryanpramanik454 false equivalence, the average MMA fighter makes less
got a QQer over here@@RMD94
Going pro in MMA is different to Boxing. People in boxing can go pro whenever for some money. Also boxing is much more worldwide so all these people boxing in poor areas compared to in MMA and especially UFC being in the USA.
Jim miller is a straight legend. He definitely needs to be in the hall of fame just for how long hes been in the UFC and the fact that he still keeps earning contracts from the UFC is incredible. Legendary.
If bro is on ufc 300 card he will hve fought on the ufc 100,200 and 300 cards he will be in the hall of fame for that for sure
His performance and demeanor in & outside the Octagon are genuinely great.
no he does not need to be in the hall of fame bro
@@clovers6690 why?😂
@@loonjake3904 a lot of people will say that guys like Jim don't belong there because they never fought for a title, they don't have the accolades of others in sports that are larger with a larger talent pool. The guy holds legitimate records in the UFC, he is a top performer in bonus and finishes category, etc. This doesn't matter to some people because they don't value the consistency, dedication and determination it takes to be an old man in a young man's sport. Jim has fought during 2 generations of MMA and is still turning back prospects. He's fought while having undiagnosed Lyme Disease, once he started getting treatment, his performances improved and he has been a pioneer, as well as a good professional representation of what an honest, hard working, mixed martial artist should be. He put on exciting and entertaining fights virtually every single time he has stepped foot in the cage... this makes some people feel bad about quitting in life, despite not having achieved their goal. This guy probably didn't do what he set out to, but he stuck with it and never gave up on himself. I think he deserves to be there, but you can't convince everyone.
The guy has fought 43 fights in the UFC he better have made Millions
Why?
@@Loquacious_Jackson because
😂😂😂 exactly.
That’s only 40k a fight
43 fights over 20+ years not bad to have 10ms along with that to
This guy talks all this shit yet he will put more money on a hand of blackjack then he will pay one of his fighters in a years time. Typical CEO 🤦♂️
Considering that said blackjack hand typically represents more than a typical UFC fighter makes his company in one year, I'd say there's no problem with him doing that. Not to mention the fact that Dana is involved in literally every single UFC card while said average fighter fights maybe 2-3 times a year. Dana's earned it and is pretty much the reason the UFC is what it is today.
@@j.menapace625Dana wouldn't survive a single fight. Everyone should be getting paid more than him. The fact that he's blowing more money on gambling than fighters are being paid is an enormous waste. These guys are sacrificing their health for this. They can't do it forever. They need to be set for life within 15-30 fights, all of them.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Who cares if Dana wouldn't survive a single fight? These guys would still be fighting in the dog park for chickenfeed on the weekends without his promotional efforts, lobbying efforts, marketing machine, and business contacts that have actually made MMA what it is today.
And aside from the fact that most fighters don't even make it to 15 fights in his organization, the UFC employs a progressive payout system that provides higher base pay the longer you stay with the company. It's why guys like Andrei Arlovski and Jim Miller are making at least $250,000 per fight now despite fighting on Fight Night cards. It a system rewards loyalty and consistency and discourages guys from leaving to join fly-by-night laundering scams like the PFL or One. The UFC will pay you well, but you gotta earn it.
@@TheStraightestWhitest So what if Dana wouldn't survive a single fight? I can't think of a single promoter that would. In fact, it would be a terrible look for your company if the promoter was tougher than the actual talent he claims is the world's best. Not to mention that fighters would still be fighting in the dog park for chickenfeed on the weekends if it wasn't for his promotional efforts, marketing efforts, lobbying, and business connections that actually made MMA what it is today.
And aside from the fact that the overwhelming majority of fighters won't even make it to 15 fights in the UFC, the UFC implements a progressive payscale system that gives fighters more substantially money the longer they stay with the company. It's why guys like Andrei Arlovski and Jim Miller are making $250,000 a fight now despite being on Fight Night cards. It's a system that rewards loyalty and consistency while also discourging them from leaving to join fly-by-night money laundering scams like the PFL or One. MMA isn't perfect, but it treats its long-time talents a lot better than boxing does.
@@j.menapace625👎
Francis made almost 17x his UFC HW title purse boxing Fury.
You not gonna talk about the low level guys who fought on that card who got payed next to nothing? Sure boxing money looks better on paper because we only pay attention to the main event fighters. But what about the guys who actually need the money? In the ufc everyone gets payed equally as they should. Nobody should be making more than $10 million to have a fight that’s just ridiculous people on the street do it for free and they’re risking death.
Boxing only pays stars good and the rest get payed chump change, that’s why ufc is better. Also you do realise ufc offered him $8 million per fight right? People like you just want the rich to get richer it’s annoying
@@TheeliteMMA-ms4vzAre you not gonna talk about the undercard fighters of a McGregor card making 10k while Conor makes 20M? Why are you fanboys always pretending this is unique to boxing?
@@TheStraightestWhitestit’s 20k to show and 20k to win, the undercard of ngannou vs fury got payed 12k flat… Just because fury pocketed 50milliom doesn’t make boxing a more fair competition.
Dana gambling money while his fighters starve
Calling Jim a journey man is a little insulting IMO
he was a top five lightweight at one point lmao. Gatekeeper would be a far better choice of words
True. He beats up prospects on a regular basis, hell he submitted Charles Oliveira
I agree. He only lost 17 times, he doesn't deserve to be called a journeyman.
100% a journey man. He hasn't been ranked in a decade.
He always justifying paying their fighters less
Someone could ask him about the weather and he would talk about how he pays his fighters good money.
LOL tell me you don't know anything about running a business without telling me you don't know anything about running a business.
Because clueless people like you and most others question him and critique him on something you know nothing about. 😂
Dana fanboys!!!
"We pay these guys 10k instead of 1k. Aren't we fucking awesome?"
Jim making millions for having like 300 fights in the ufc
Ur just jealous cuz boxing sucks 300 fights at least be honest
@@AK-galilhe was obviously being hyperbolic but he’s got a point. Jim has the most fights in ufc history.
@@heath6809 but not 300
He mad those million from boxing not ufc look it up
@@user-qi3pt1uz2i what? Jim Miller doesn’t have any boxing matches.
That is alot of shit talking for some one who dosent pay there fighters.
Like this is obviously not true
@@lucasgallant6798it is though
Their
His superstar fighters make more than 95% of the globe
@@user-gf7rb6tl3b and some boxers make more in one night than what his whole roster makes in a year 😂
Jim and Dan are some bad ass brothers not that many people on this planet fight like them
Who's dan
That’s funny coming from a guy who underpays his fighters.
It's even funnier coming from a guy who knows fuck all about running a business, what the fighters are even paid, and how much they even bring in to the company
I’d believe Ngannou any day of the week over Dana White
I'd believe Ngannou doesn't understand how big of an organization the UFC, and how many people get a piece of the pie. All the promotion they do, they truly have a unique and iconic production value
@@JeromePowerrr
Maybe but doesn't matter since he is making cash in boxing and living his dream too
Why would he want everyone else to get paid? Fighters should make all the money for themselves @JeromePowerrr
@@jaskiratshoker
Because so far Ngannou has proved that he exceeds the average human beings,in strength,determination as well as power and courage.
He wanted healthcare for all fighters
Ngannou was a illegal immigrant that went to France illegally. He was literally a criminal at one point of his life, no matter of his hardships he was an illegal immigrant meaning that he will do ANYTHING for money and good life meaning he will lie too.
He called one of his most loyal and dependable employees a journeyman. The disrespect is ridiculous.
Jim is journeyman right now and Dana still pays him more than he would ever make in boxing. Sounds pretty respectful to me.
What should he call him? Jim is a journeyman, not calling him a bum or anything.
Well with a 37-17 record I would call him a journeyman too.
Not an employee, independent contractor
@@Ybby999 Care to explain how that distinction is relevant here?
Jim Miller has only been stopped 5 times in 17 losses. Dude is a legend
1 in 3 losses being a stoppage has to be one of the worst stats, not best. How many times have nick and Nate been stopped in their double figure losses?
@@Disinfo321Nick Nate and masvidal have less than 10 stoppages in between them, over 150 fights combined. Much better stat. Now enough about guys who almost never get stopped, let’s segway into guys who almost never win by stoppages. Belal “the decision” Muhammad. 😂
@@Disinfo321But he’s only ever been KOd twice in 17 losses. That’s a much better stat. 2 KOs, 3 Submission losses and the other 12 are decisions. Close decisions too. Some splits.
17 losses tho 😂😂
17 losses, damn
"Don't earn millions quick, come work for me for a long time and earn less"
LMAO the only way you're earning "millions quick" in boxing is being at the very tip top. Everyone else is making peanuts.
@@j.menapace625So just like the UFC? Because Conor is making 20M while prelim and undercard fighters are on 10k.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Considering the HUGE difference between what Conor and those no-name prelimers are bringing in to the company, I'd say those payouts are justifiable.
@@j.menapace625 My point exactly. Someone like Fury making 30-50M makes sense if his average PPVs are 600k and he has many doubling that, not to mention the streaming service numbers of boxing being almost five times that of MMA meaning lots of subscription payments.
That isn't because of guys filling undercards. That's because of the cream of the crop, just like in MMA.
And that's why in both sports, said cream of the crop gets paid more.
Francis ngannuo laughs in his mansion 😂😂😂😂
he fought the champ obv he is gonna make money lmao and francis beat your best boxer so stfu
@@official-OSMcalling fury the best boxer is crazy
@@official-OSMyour in your 20s and play a game about gorillas
@@official-OSM im not going to respond ,,you like playing with monkeys 🙉
@@official-OSM How did that age ? Francis is still a boss though
Ngannou entered the chat
Jim Miller has 12 pro fights outside the UFC and 43 in it
If boxing was so bad then why do your fighters complain about pay etc and end up trying boxing out
Because big names in boxing get payed ridiculous undeserved amounts like $50 million and $ 20 million for doing something that’s 1000x easier and less stressful than MMA. Of course big ufc names are gonna chase the money, but you have to be a big name to make good money in boxing.
@@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz Easier and less stressful? LMAO tell me you know nothing about boxing without telling me you know nothing about boxing. The only reason these guys are in MMA in the first place instead of pursuing the much larger paydays that a supposedly "easier" sport offers is specifically because they're not any good at it. Oh, and "less stressful" is complete bullshit as well when more people die every year in boxing than have in MMA in the last 15.
@@j.menapace625 Didn’t Francis Nganou single handily humiliate the entire sport of boxing in his last fight? Didn’t he have your undefeated world champion on the canvas with a black eye in his debut?
More of these ufc fighters should try boxing they would probably do well but they’re under contract with the ufc so they can’t. They ain’t perusing boxing because most of them have wrestling bases and have been learning mma their whole lives whilst boxers only learn boxing and forget leg day. That’s why wilders legs are like matchsticks.
More people dying in boxing means nothing, it’s just simple math, you give somebody’s brain time to recover after trauma with a 10 count and it takes even more trauma it’s gonna be bad for your brain. MMA is focused on the whole body rather than just the head. There’s hardly ever any blood or broken bones in boxing. Just brain injuries because the sport is borderline stupid.
@@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz Francis performed better than anyone expected him to, but the only people who think he "humiliated" boxing are MMA fanboys who just wish that were true.
And no, most UFC fighters have no business in boxing and their track records show it. Donald Cerrone, Carlos Condit, Jeremy Stephens, Mike Perry, and Nate Diaz are all winless in it. Mark Hunt is 1-2-1 with his only win coming against a washed-up rugby player. Alex Volkanovski, Nick Diaz, and Uriah Hall have one win each, but they stuggled against no-name opposition so badly that they neve continued. The list goes on. For every Francis that kind of does well, there are a dozen of these guys that don't.
And constant head trauma with little time to recover and no other facets to take attention away from it? Yeah, thanks for proving exactly why boxing is more stressful than MMA. BTW, broken ribs and distended kidneys are just as common in boxing as head injuries are.
@@j.menapace625 Literally all of those guys that lost in boxing were all old and a lot of them had grappling bases. Plus who cares if mma fighters can’t beat boxing in a boxing fight. Boxers wouldn’t beat mma fighters in the cage or on the street.
Your argument is stupid, you’re bragging that your fighters are getting brain damage n CTE more than ufc fighters. Who cares? Boxing is a dying sport anyway, once Fury smokes Usyk it’s gonna be same old same old waiting years for fights to happen, crying about purse splits, pulling out of fights. Clinching each other when they’re hurt so the referee separates them. I just can’t take them serious .
Is Dana implying that the UFC gives refunds everytime they put on a shitty fight card?
No
Being a boxer is like being an independent artist, it might take you a while to get popping, but once you get paid you keep most of your money, signing to the UFC is like being on record label, you’ll get famous faster and possibly rich but EVERYONE willl get a piece of your pie (pause)
Yeah you’re right but only 0.1% of boxers become big enough to make decent money. With ufc you’re gonna get payed decent when you start
@@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz The same applies to MOST MMA FIGHTERS ( mma is more than the UFC). UFC is different though
Yeah that’s cool and all Mr Dana… but there’s a difference between making a million dollars in 300 fights and making it in 1.
Dude, if you aren’t at the absolute very peak, there is ZERO money in boxing. You’re basically fighting for peanuts at the journeyman level.
Well also gotta understand is that only 2 men get to have that money
Jim miller aint boxing for â Mill bein â journey man, aye dats still my dawg tho
Dana talking miller he has the most fights in the ufc. He shouldn’t have 7 million he should have 17 million
How many boxers are making that money? 5?
UFC fighters are so well paid the best fighter in the sports history Jon Jones sat out for 3 yrs over a contract dispute
Sat out for 3 years and didn’t need to work or do anything because he was so rich
@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz yeah "rich" Jones made $545K & Dominic Reyes made $380K including bonuses to headline UFC 247. That was his only fight in 2020 before sitting out for 3 yrs & just his 8th fight in the last 10 yrs how rich can he be? And remember this is according to Dana "the greatest fighter in MMA history"
@@TheMartin9400 Jon jones was never the biggest star and the people he was fighting were not on his level. But he still sold some ppvs and made good money in his career. He made more than 500k in most of his fights. 16 title fights, 16 headliners. 16 ppv points. He’s definitely rich.
@TheeliteMMA-ms4vz you said it yourself he was never the biggest star. Conor & Ronda at their height made $3 million. Jones was never close to being that type of draw. $550K wasnt what he made for his 1st fight or his 10th fight its what they paid him for his last fight before sitting out. Ironically its about the same they paid Heavyweight Champ Francis Ngannu.
@@TheMartin9400 Conor made $3 million? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you have no clue my friend
20 years= millions. Could mean 60k per year
This. Miller also has the most fights in UFC history and among the most bonuses in UFC history. Dana's being a disingenuous prick again.
Do the maths, Jim has been robbed blind.
How? He didn't exactly bring in the company a lot of money, he never headlined a PPV, and never won a title. Maybe YOU'RE the one who should do the math here because your numbers aren't adding up.
Can you actually believe Dana? Nate Diaz was a way bigger star than Jim Miller ever has been. Nate headlined countless fight cards before fighting Conor & before UFC 196 he was making $20K & $20K in title fights. Yet Jim Miller became a Millionare fighting for the UFC?
Anyone who falls for Dana’s greed can’t be helped
The dude has 46 fights under his belt. Even if he was only making $20k/fight that nearly gets him there but he also got 15 $50k bonuses in his fights. He has the most fights and wins of anyone in UFC history.
Now maybe if you pay your fighters fair enough money they wouldn’t be looking for payday in boxing opponents…
So you want Dana to spend the company into bankruptcy by paying his headliners $50 million for a fight that only does 75,000 buys?
@@j.menapace625 Lol, Dana white is really likely a billionaire and you’re gonna tell me he can pay his top fighters enough to not be quitting ufc?? He didn’t have any problem making Connor and jones millionaires right? Now if boxing trash fights pay crap fighters like canelo and mayweather $50 million a fight I seriously doubt the numbers on ppv are what they say they are on ufc…
@@levirleon5001 No, Dana is not a billionaire and he doesn't even own the UFC (or at least not a large enough percentage of it to totally control payouts). TKO does and, before that, it belonged to WME and Zuffa. Ownership has final authority on payouts and they're going to base it on how much an individual fighter brings into the company-- hence the payouts that Conor and Jon Jones mentioned and why most of the guys in the company get much less comparatively.
And Say what you want about boxing, but guys like Canelo and Floyd who are responsible for some of the biggest PPV sales in history (their fight alone outsold every single UFC event history by a significant margin, UFC 229 notwithstanding) are also going to make big money because of it. It's the same reasoning that the UFC is built on. Shit, Floyd's fight with Manny Pacquiao did over twice what UFC 229 did.
@@j.menapace625 I see and respect your point of view bro but remember the night that canelo was gonna fight and they didn’t start the fight until the ufc event was over I believe it was Diaz vs masvidal n I think canelo was gonna fight plant if I remember right, if a boxing fight has to be drawn back for the ufc to be over it can’t be doing too much different in business I would think…. For example I was a big fan of spider Silva I think he did a lot for the ufc just as much as Connor in my opinion and Silva said he did more fighting Jake Paul who’s not even a boxer then any fight he did on ufc… I mean it can’t be that bad there’s a lot ufc fans and Dana white recordé net worth in 2019 was 500 million which was 5 years ago this last 5 years UFC went through some of khabib era jones was still active mcgregor fought some fights too Nate Diaz became pretty popular as well as masvidal… just doesn’t make sense to me how top name professional boxers retire filthy rich and most of top ufc fighters retire with hardly any money looking for fights outside the ufc to get an actual pay day…
Jim miller has more records than any other mma fighter and has made a few million over a decade
Francis with a 0-1 record made twice as much in 1 fight
He fought for along time when they were allowing independent sponsorships. Pretty slimy for Dana to act like that’s what the UFC was giving him.
@@fonsecataliaferro5444 💯 %
And you think that’s normal? You think fighting with pillows on your fist for 25 minutes warrants tens of millions? Bums like you just want the rich to get richer, what about all the lower level fighters on that boxing card that got payed scraps?
Dana White would be so easy to embarrass if he was debating actual opposition
Then why is nobody against him cuz he's telling the truth
@@AK-galil Because he forces anyone he does business with to sign an arbitration agreement, just like you at whatever corporation you shill for from 9 to 5.
sheep mentality dana white is a known scumbag i mean every living realitive he has literally hates him not just dislikes him HATES him even his own mother lmao.@@AK-galil
You confuse cynicism with intellect. You aren't smart for thinking the worst of people.
@@tuhaggisNot really a matter of intelligence. Most people with any sort of power these days only take interviews from people who aren't going to put any resistance on their bs. The UFC is literally the lowest paying (percentage wise) sports company there is. Fighters are "independent contractors" yet aren't allowed to fight for other promotions or do boxing just so that he doesn't have to provide health care, among other benefits. TJ (there are countless examples we know of, even more that we don't) fought with a hurt arm not only because it might've been his last title shot but also because that's the only way the UFC provides healthcare. The first contract a UFC fighter gets makes him less than 10k a year if he gets to fight 3 times which is kind of unrealistic since with that kind of income from the UFC you probably have to get a day job on top. Dana has done many things for the sport but are we supposed to look the other way because of it?
Jim Miller is a great fighter. He always brings it.
Francis made more money in boxing than he could've made in UFC lil boy
Why are you leaving comments like you're tough lol
@@poriccrompton
Why are you replying to my comment 🏳️🌈?
Dana never said anything opposing this lol
@@GoldenMedalMMA
Literally mocked furyngannou from the beginning and is still salty about it
@@guy_with_a_beard__glass6949Yep, you’re an ignorant fool
boxers make way more money than ufc Dana just being a hater lol because how many ufc fighters have come out and complained about the low pay now stop this foolishness Dana
@bestsrong8543 boxing is losing its popularity and ufc is one of the world’s fastest growing sports
@@user-tx2nr1sm9u who makes more money I’ll wait argument over 🤷♂️
@@user-tx2nr1sm9uboxing was here first buddy and if ufc fighters made so much why do they switch to boxing stop this nonsense lol idc about ufc being more popular who has more money I’ll wait 😌
PERFECT on 3 of the last 4 UFC cards, ALL PLUS MONEY
Basically saying in boxing the money goes out to the boxers and there's nothing to show for it in the UFC the money goes back to the UFC where the brand uses some of that money to further expand it self. Fact is dana is a bit scared of boxing just him always talking about it is enough to tell me boxing lives rent free in his head. He's probably scared that some one will start up a brand similar to the UFC but for boxers with its own shows and promos.
Dana just hating cause boxers actually get paid for their sacrifice
Only big boxers get payed idiot
Boxing top athletes make more money. But average UFC athletes make more.
Making it to the ufc and being in top 5 in the world means you’re one of the best fighters on the planet if he calls the ufc the pinnacle.
Now take somebody who is the top 5 in boxing and give them 20 fights and see who makes more money.
A top 10 boxer in the world isn’t a journeyman, and a top 10 ufc fighter shouldn’t be labelled a journeyman either.
Dana is the Mr. Krabbs of combat sports
Yet some boxers are worth more than you 😂
Just Floyd and that’s not even a guarantee.
@@DontWorryAboutIt00 well he's worth more so it is.
Point is Danas a clown
@@RMD94danas worth 100million more than fliyd
@@juu9386 no
@@juu9386 Floyd earned 100m from the mcgregor fight alone
two very evil men right there
🏳️🌈 spotted
@@guy_with_a_beard__glass6949ped0 spotted
haha nice try@@guy_with_a_beard__glass6949
Betas spotted!
You really thought you said something huh
Vivek there like “yeah- uh-huh🤠”
MMA ALWAYS! MF!
He pays his fighters like he’s going out of business. Even when he’s pocketing millions himself
"Trillions" 😂 For boxing of all things, yeah sure
Jim miller been fighting with the ufc since 2008 and had like 50 something fights. Would be so wrong if he hadn’t made a mil by now
Millions*
@@carsonnations1497 1100000= 1,1 millions,as well. Plural 😆
Jim Miller is a legend not a journeyman.
The thing is boxing has a proper path to title contention that can allow fighters to compete with a clear path to a title and money. Ufc will block fighters on win streaks from fighting for a title
Too many politics in boxing,bad for the sport
Jim Millers a smart, well-rounded, 3rd generation mma guy.. Every real mma fan knows Miller 👊🏻👊🏻
Jim Miller is an absolute legend of mma, might not be the most skilled but he has heart and is one tough man, fighting in his 40s and has the most fights ever in the ufc, was there ufc 100, 200 and now is hopefully going to appear on ufc 300. Absolute legend of the sport
UFC>Boxing in every way imaginable by the human mind
Yet boxing does bigger PPV numbers and earn wayyyyyy more than MMA fighter's
UFC has 80% of all ppvs ever, boxing only has 20%. The average ufc fighter gets payed more than the average boxer. Fool
No sir you make really good money
What about a journey man in MMA? The UFC isn't the only company
Jim miller is a ufc LEGEND
Making $25000 a year for 40 years
40 x 25000 = 1000000
Guaranteeing satisfisfaction is a losing battle
Guess why UFC fighters go for boxing match? Cuz they make more money in one match than their entire mma career
sounds like dana is hateing on boxing
Jim miller catching strays 😂
Beat goes harrd
Jim miller is a damn legend
Don’t let Dana lie to you guys. Every other major American sports league splits profits 50/50. And allows them to have their own sponsors. Not only are ufc fighters not allowed to have sponsors which would pay them more than their actual contracts, but ufc fighters get 18% of the profits for doing 100% of the work that actually makes the company money. I agree production and marketing are important. But that should come out of the ufcs end. Not the fighters
Rampage himself said that fighters make more than boxers but that the fans still think it’s the other way around
See he started with a point and than it went no where. Boxing usually has good fight. The lead up in the problem. Right now there are boring fights but ufc is leading in that. Like whole cards.
Boxing is the king of boring fights
@@TheeliteMMA-ms4vzYou've obviously never watched boxing
@@iDeathMaximuMII I watched that “best boxing card of all time” on December 23rd. I almost fell asleep it was so bad
He’s right, the general base pay of ufc fighters is higher than boxing, but the ceiling is way, way fucking lower. But it’s made the UFC sustainable so say what you want
Jim Miller! Only fighter to be on the 100 card, 200 card and now 300! So stoked for Jim and he's been looking better in the octagon the last few years than ever!
When talking about fighter pay, MMA in general is already a niche sport, we also forget ufc has been around for like 30 years. The sport compared to others is growing at an exponential rate, but it is very much compared to others still in it's infancy era. Fighters will be getting payed more when the sport grows
Man it so many journeyman in boxing that made millions
Jim Miller is a Journeyman that Consistently fights top 10- top 15 UFC fighters. And was ranked for a long time himself. If a boxing Journeyman was consistently fighting Ranked opponents and was ranked himself you bet he makes Millions
Star boxers cast a massive shadow over all the stars of ufc
Couldn’t have said that any better 😂going out of business sale 😂
Oh I didn't realize the UFC cared if fans got a good show? Most PPVs are trash
Jim once went on a tear in his division winning 9 straight. He deserved a title shot. He got screwed over imo.
Jim Miller is a cool dude, met him back in like 11'
jim miller's a stud
Ask Francis 😂😂😂😂😂🥊🥊 WE PAY MORE
You also get bitched by leg kicks
UFC had a champion that had to work a job to support his family because his fight money payed his people and his training camp.
Boxing is the number one business to launder money for the actual Big rollers
Jim Miller is an old school legend, he should have millions by all rights
Jim Miller better be a fucking millionaire!
Absolute fucking legend!
Boxing sucks, but lately, the UFC cards have been boring beyond belief. It's like every 4th or 5th card is good.
The car is in the second aisle from way we came in
Good ole Dana caring more about the fans than the fighters.
Dana a lot of the latest ufc fights have been mediocre at best and over charged. Stop lying to your fan base!
That’s a one off though, the next 3 ppvs looking insane
“If you can get the shit kicked out of you relentlessly for 23 years, you can make great money at the UFC”
Most journey aren't ranked and don't headline fight nights.
the top fighters in boxing get paid $100 million dollars or more the top fighters in MMA lucky if they get like a $10 million payout
Yeah and why do you think boxing is such a trash and dead sport compared to mma? All the fighters don’t need to fight because they’re so rich so only like 2 good events per year get made.
"He's made millions." The guy has fought 43 times, assuming he makes 50k a fight (standard in the UFC), that's just over 2 million dollars. Sure you can say he made millions, but that's not exactly the type of huge money you would expect a pro athelete to earn for an entire career of very dangerous work.
He’s fighting bums though and if you wanna pay every single fighter in ufc history millions it would destroy the company. You get payed well if you’re good and not so well if you don’t it’s like that in every single job on earth. Why is fighting different? Police officers and army officers don’t get payed close to what bum ufc fighters make.
miller is a fucking legend.
Please tell me that Miller is gonna fight on ufc 300, he is like destined to fight on it
He's fighting bobby green on 300
Jim Miller was never in a boring fight. He just never had the talent to beat the top guys. But anytime I saw his name on a card, I’m watching that fight.
“You like the fight?” NO DANA, change the whole fucking card
This is the same Dana White who despises Randy Couture for wanting a better fight contract and who left the UFC to fight in another MMA Organization for better payment.
Randy helped put the UFC on the map as a legitimate combat sport.
And Dana used to praise Randy….until Randy wanted to get paid like a high level athletic champion.
Jim Miller has been in the UFC for 16 years
The hardcore fans knows who jim F**ing miller is
Props to Jim Miller and vets like Arlovski
They are defiantly making 300,000-600,00 per fight
Jim Miller is that dog! He’s not champ caliber but I’ve seen him go toe to toe with the best and win…
Sure Dana