Urban Deer Control
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2023
- Deer are becoming an increasingly familiar sight in our towns and cities and are costing Government Local Authorities increasing sums of money. But how do you go about controlling high deer numbers in urban areas? We explore this complex issue during a visit to Plymouth.
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We need to be realistic and approach the deer problem as we would rabbit/rat. Particularly munty and roe. I pest control for several arable farms. Hand on heart, munty are causing as much crop damage as rabbits in some areas. I think, my opinion of course, that infestation requires a cull approach. The "niceties" of modern day stalking have no real bearing on numbers. DEFRA particularly need a national policy like the badger cull areas. And local councils, so politically sensitive to urban voters, need taking out of the loop.
Agreed, provided DEFRA do not adopt a 'one size fits all' policy approach to all deer species.
@@peterjones4442 Agree, the "imports" have no place here.
A few years back my friend and I were asked by our Council to remove a small group of 8 Roe Deer that were inside a large Cemetery, when we said about needing safe backstops the Manager said “What about the Headstones” 😳? We eventually neck shot them with a silenced .222 off a couple of ladder Highseats.
Headstones as back stops! Brilliant.
Fell into a local wildlife rabbithole ths evening and wondered about the kind of deer I had spotted in the early morning hours in Reading near the Thames. I think they're Muntjac, but this also has me interested in hunting as I also learned about the invasive deer species here in the UK.
Good film, As a humane dispatcher for my constabulary I am seeing an increasing number of deer vehicle collisions involving deer I my local town, using 12g safe shot in urban areas, 100% safe after 3-4 meters
Its certainly a good option for injured deer. Thanks for the comment.
I live in a suburban area and there's Muntjac here, saw one last week, they use the canals and railway tracks to get around too
I am seeing a lot more Muntjac in East London in the past few years getting into peoples gardens ect. The numbers around Epping Forest going across towards Romford/Brentwood in the North East of London are also increasing.
I think this is where handguns for humaine dispatch of trapped and injured deer would be useful. You could also consider a captive bolt gun could be useful at very close range.
Thanks Steve, I know the Epping Forest area well. In fact I used to stalk around there. I am afraid the authorities in that area have never got to grips with the problem. I dread to think how much it is now costing the tax payer! Thanks for the comment.
Very interesting where I live the deer have adapted where there weren’t deer twenty years they have moved in and vice versa the forestry have visitor centres and walk lots of dogs the deer have just found some where quite this is mainly fallow the muntjac are everywhere they were ignored for to long will this happen with boar
Any deer I've been called to release because they've got them self cought in some man-made structure, wiring etc I always put them down for the simple reason but the stress of being in close proximity of man for a prolonged period of time causes them to die a painful death, and all they throw themselves about so violently that they bleed out internally due to haemorrhaging, for example I was called out to a dear that was caught up in a tennis net the gentleman asked me if I could possibly save it, I said ok what will do the three of us will approach this here and we will take it from there, the deer through itself about so violently let the thought of trying to release that day without causing any harm was completely out of the question people have absolutely no idea how strong is creatures are, he agreed that trying to cut this animal free from the tennis net was going to be impossible. I humanely dispatched it, took it back to the larder did a post-mortem. The deer had thrown itself about so violently that it had hemorrhaged it's liver and was bleeding out internally, we made the best decision to put the animal down as I said it would have died a very slow and painful death, had we been able to release it. Dear will die of shock, from being chased by dogs for a short period of time, a farmer witnessed two men chasing deer around one of his field one evening, he came back the following morning to find for dead deer lying in the sealed without a single mark on them, the shock of being chased by the dogs had caused them to die from stress. I know this because I did a post-mortem on all for deer and on the external size there wasn't a Mark internally there wasn't a mark on them you would have thought that they died for no reason whatsoever had the farmer not seen them being chased the previous.. nothing makes me more angry than men or women chasing deer for fun. For example there was this woman on tiktok the other day whose dog was chasing these muntjac deer. She said do look my dog has come to play with his deer friends. Little did she know that the female deer, in her ignorance she thought they were playing, in the next video there's a video of her dog with a 12 to 15 in gash down the side of the dogs flank, she saw the dog had ran into a branch and impaled itself,I happen to know different and I've seen these injuries before inflicted on dogs five male muntjac who are immensely powerful with their short antalis. Because of this woman's ignorance she thought that the dog and the deer were playing, I'm sorry to inform you but predators and prey do not play, 0 the muntjac goldhurst young dog down it's flank with a 15 inch gash and was very luck to be alive. The stupidity of some people, she's clearly been watching far too many Disney movies. It's not her fault she's uneducated in the way of 4he countryside, actually I take it back, of course iylts her fault, who else to blame for her own stupidity, people like her make me so angry, not only is she endangereing the life of the deer a fawn, but she almost got her dog killed in the process. makes me mad a hell, as I as a deer manager love deer and would hate for them to come to any unnecessary suffering bor injury because of people like her .
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Thanks Joel for such a comprehensive response. All interesting stuff!
Agreed, the trapped deer in this video that were released could have easily been dispatched, something such as a hushpower 20g would be ideal in built up areas, if we want numbers down we need to be realistic and get on with it rather than releasing the species that are overcrowded and causing masses of damage
Too many ‘deer mangers’ not culling the deer and just concentrating on trophies for profit. Too much land leased out to stalkers who don’t shoot it but want the permissions anyway and again just want the trophy money. The guy even said it in the video.
I don't disagree.
What moderator is in use?
Looks like a Wildcat
Please let us know if you are seeing deer in your local town? We'll be interested to hear how wide spread the problem is.
Seems a major shift in attitude is needed. This clip shows 2 deer from 12-20 being nailed. And to make progress you need to get 50%. And once shot up they get more difficult. There are probably some relatively simple solutions if able to tolerate the PR issues from hunters & public, & once actual control has been achieved revert to the fluffing about the fringes.
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Disgusting .you people are going to suffer..😡👊
You need some kiwis and ozzys to show the Poms how culling is done
Since the pig, deer, goats, NZ tahr, Oz camels, horses etc etc are proliferating so well despite khunters efforts and much of the official control efforts, it's hard to see what most of those hunters could offer. Both officialdom and hunting groups have real problems being effective despite thier claims to professionalism. There are some good ones about, often supressed by those who have got into expert positions of authority. They are a minority.
Bow hunting is the obvious solution, here. It is quiet, unobtrusive and effective.
It’s not legal in the UK
@@napalmhotdog4365 I know but that doesn't mean it isn't a solution to the problem. Change the law.
In fact we held an 'Introductory Bow Hunting' day for the Capreolus Club last weekend. It'd be great if it could be legalised, bows these days are undoubtedly highly effective and humane and are used to control animals in plenty of other countries.
@@colinjohnston5465 I didn’t say it shouldn’t be be legal, I said it’s not currently legal and as such it is not a viable solution yet.
Colin Johnson it's not humane in the hands of 99% of people. And the training required to make it humane 99% of people won't do.