Genuinely The Best State Warcraft Has Been In For Years | Dragonflight
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It's been a few weeks since World of Warcraft's latest retail expansion, Dragonflight, has dropped. It's still early days of course, but initial impressions give many more positive things to speak of than at least the previous 2 expansions.
These is why Dragonflight is the version of WoW that looks as though it's really turned a corner for the MMO giant.
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The 60-70 blew by for me. It wasn't super tedious and drawn out. Dragon Riding really helped going from 1 quest to the next and the quests themselves and a really good variety. Once I get my main all geared I'm excited to run some alts through the story.
That sounds woefully pathetic. Wasting your entire life on this utter bullshit. I encourage you to do literally anything else lol.
Leveling is pure shit on retail tf ure talking about
@@clerniaz131 Go back to Classic where you have to nolife for 3 days like a basement dweller to reach max lvl.
You make it sound like the regular flying mounts couldn't help you get from one quest to the next.
@motoki MMOs are all about multiplayer. It makes no sense for the solo experience to take ages. Look at FF14, what a mess, it takes you 300 hours to get to the endgame and 295 hours of that is solo MSQ. That's not an MMO at that point it's an RPG with an optional multiplayer.
I have been playing since 2005, First BfA happened, which was already bad, but then Shadowlands almost killed WoW for me entirely. I was ready to quit for good. Dragonflight is surprisingly fun. It feels like WoW has a soul again. It's not perfect, but man, this is so much better than what we had. And the best thing is, it's not just better because WoW was kind of shit in comparison, it's better because it's actually a step forward. The story is... decent. But it works because it just feels a lot more like home, like the Azeroth I missed.
But is it the same grind for cosmetics as it was in shadowlands, I dont mind work for the stuff i want, but I will not do a shadowlands grind over again. And you can buy a wow token for real money and get gold in game, then you can gear for gold that is better than the content you are doing as casual player, so either is pay to win or they focus to much on selling wow token and not make more content for the game players can do.
Yeah, makes sense to not compare it with BfA and Shadowlands when you talk about it being fun and a "step forward", but then the only positive things you mentioned in your comment are "The story is... decent" and " it just feels a lot more like home".
That does not sound like a "step forward" to me.
What it does sound like is Blizzard continuously capitalizing on players' nostalgia and delusions of reaching the same high their products once offered, and continuously getting away with it. It is total non-sense to me, yet I have to admit feeling envious of all the enthusiasm and positivity players are still able to exude. Well, at least in the writing form here on the internet, if it is ever to be considered a trustworthy source of information and not simply a way to cope.
@Hero&Jelly why toxxic?
The story feels sort of generic to me. We good guys go and fight the super evil bad guys. Hell the bad guys just act like straight up bad guys, no sort of personality whatsoever, they’re just bad guys. However I feel like they’re going for this kind of story as a way of “realigning” themselves, especially after the dumpster fire that was shadowlands.
When Wrath came out I thought Dragonflight would be the first expansion I would simply not play.
I decided last-minute to give it a chance, and I'm so happy I did, I've genuinely been having so much fun in Dragonflight and it brings me back to the feeling of enjoying the game like I do when I played Classic Vanilla, Classic TBC, or Classic WOTLK. It's more of a "you play because you want to", not "you play because you have to", reducing a lot of the mandatory grinds and replacing it with optional grinding, genuinely so many good changes and I love it.
Um... Classic vanllia WoW and TBC WAS NOTHING BUT grind what you talking about. It would even take 6 months to a year back in OG WoW to even hit 60..
last miniute spend 60$ to try a game, suppose if thats cheap can try anything in this world.
"Alt friendly" you can say that again. When I got on my 2nd character to start the Dragon Isles I thought my addon wasn't working because the Glyphs weren't showing up. After like 10 minutes I realized you only had to collect them once and every alt got them.
Lol I did the same thing. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting the glyphs in the starting are when I flew through them. And was getting frustrated because the starting dragonflight is very limited on resource lol
Then was so excited and surprised when I realized it was all carried over! So many wonderful design choices this xpac
What a huge improvement. This is the first time I've not been remotely hyped for a new expansion, I practically missed the entire first week, but it's the first expansion since Wrath that I actually want to log onto every day and enjoy playing *every* aspect of the game currently.
I'm gobsmacked that, firstly, Blizzard actually U-turned on their design philosophy in such a major way - not just the design philosophy of borrowed power and throwaway systems from Legion through Shadowlands, but their attitude towards scale, progression, gating, complexity (especially talents and crafting), loot and more. Secondly I can't believe after the year they've had and after the trajectory of their last few expansions, that there's so much passion in this game. It's been painstakingly crafted, it's intricate and engaging in a way WoW hasn't been for over a decade.
Once bitten, twice shy though - I still expect the first major content patch to make all the good DF launch stuff completely irrelevant and funnel us into a single new zone with crappy catchup gear and a gated, on rails progression system, and so I can't really relax properly into enjoying the game. Like most rational fans though I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong.
yup I been playing games everyday just like old times!! I love the new pvp style gear
For the first time EVER in WoW, as a casual player I have 2 capped characters at this point in an expansion for the first time ever. Also working on a 3rd. Love the leveling and freedom to do what you like. So surprised
I’m doing the same, though it’s been to have access to multiple professions
Sounds like your playing a mobile game not a mmo lmao
capped? wdym? full pve gear? pvp? noob
Are you engaging with any of the end game systems or just getting a character to 70 and then...starting another one? There's an entire game to play after hitting cap.
@@EBINHD didnt you read he was casual? And stop calling people noob, just because they play the game in a different way than you do. Respect how people want to play the game.
The thing about Dragonflight is flying. Basically, WOW or FFXIV doesn't allow you to fly in a new expansion until you have unlocked the area by some means. Here you need dragon flight to advance, so you get it early in the story line for your main and your subs.
And, it's *viscerally* more enjoyable and faster than default flying. The dragon isles aren't necessarily smaller than other zones on launch, but it's *much* faster to traverse between all 4 parts of it. Similarly, that flying feels much more involved, since you actually care about momentum and boosting, no matter how much vigor you have.
I'm honestly concerned with the mobility creep, as it'll likely render regular flying mounts practically useless.
WoW and WoW 2. It happened... it was just more subtle than many realized.
In legion i suppose
Dragonflight is WoW 10
WoW 1 Genders. WoW 2 Genderless. WoW 2 hailed as saved! Nothing new in 2023.
The simple fact that you can no longer choose male or female is entirely why many, many people are praising the game. An aspect of the game that is zero content, and is over before you even load into “the game” itself.
@@barkley611 wut
I wouldn’t really want to play WoW 2; I have loved WoW BECAUSE it evolves rather than making a second version. It will always be salvageable as long as it does not switch to “WoW 2” IMO.
The most fun I've had since at least Pandaria
Agreed, Retail hasn't been this good since 16', 17' Legion.
I can sympathize with the statement "Chromie Time is great for people, who enjoy pretending Shadowlands didn't happen" so much! xD
I will never set foot into this godforsaken place again, unless I really have to.
Also, the fact that we have roughly 95% of our character unlocked at 70 (outside of tier sets) is such a huge plus. I can finally be content with being "done" with my character and can play other games or do other stuff instead of constantly having to think about that I could spend my time in WoW, farming an arbitrary temporary character power source. I hope it stays that way in the future.
As someone with a couple 80s on wrath, I didn’t think I’d try dragonflight, but I got my paycheck and it came out, so I tried it, and I’m so happy I did. It’s such a good expansion, way better than the past couple. And it has me logging into retail rather than classic, which I thought would never happen
I like Dragonflight so far, but I've already dialed back most of the time I put into it because I just love Wrath so much. Super happy to hear from people that are genuinely enjoying it, and that so far it seems like Blizzard has pulled their head slightly out of their asses.
I really like hearing that you still enjoy wrath more. That just encourages me to not even buy dragonflight and just keep playing wrath which is the best state the game has ever been in anyway.
@@zraebiel1673 I was excited for Wrath, but since DF's release I haven't touched my 77 warrior, I've already played wrath like 4 times. No need to play the same expansion a fifth time
Yeah which is exactly what we're looking for. I can put DF down and do something else, play another game, and come back to it whenever I want to. It feels right
Becouse DF is just new, adjusted WotLK.
They picked possibly the best expansion in the history, and repeat it
We meet very similiar enemies here. The zones are pretty similiar; azure span is bassicly miniaturized northrend
We get Nexus with blue dragons
We get tuskars vs gnolls
We get Howling fjord/grizzly hills like zone
Black dragons/dragonblight
The whole expansion feels for me like its just WotLK but instead of focusing on Undeads with Dragons in background we got dragons with elementals in the background
@@wisniamw Yeah I kinda see it like a mix of Wrath and Cataclysm. Lots of dragons, lots of elementals, trying to get the aspects their power back. I do like it, but I never really got to play Wrath when it was relevant, and even private servers never really felt meaningful, so I'm just drowning myself in Wrath Classic lol
I was playing from TBC to Mists of Pandaria. And I LOVED the Pandaria expansion, like a lot, still do, my favorite. Played the most in WotLK so I understand why people are comfy in that world, but now that I‘m returning I think this is the best time for it. Dragonflight is fun, sorta straightforward and has this fresh feeling. I‘m happy that I‘m returning now and I‘m forever grateful for your „how did this and that expansion change wow“ and one of your shadowlands videos. I‘m 40 hours in and I feel like I‘m up to date with how things go now and I can have fun with my Windwalker Monk Panda again. Thanks, WillE!
To be honest I thought it's the first expansion I'm not going to buy and I stuck to my guns. I see no compeling reasons to play this.
Good job they streamlined it heavily to cater even more to the casual side of things. You can beat the story in 3 days and then all you have left really is back to the ol M+ push or doing arenas.. I literally beat the xpac and got all my PvP minus my boots in less than a month and then it donned on me wtf do I even do anymore outside of that? They killed open world pvp.. Destroyed acquiring allied races, streamlined leveling so much so you can go from lvl 1 to 70 in like 5 days, Streamlined M+ "Which it needed to be tuned down a bit" and then did the same with Arena gear cost.. You can not even fly like this outside of the Isle which they will most likely NEVER expand it further then that cause that is how lazy Bliz is.. This xpac only brought skill trees in my eyes but even has been foreshadowed now cause, I do not have nothing else to do. Its weird cause this xpac is a step forward but it is so fkin shallow in terms of content despite the content being good that it has brought its own issues with it. The issue is its just to streamlined I have had more to do in Singleplayer RPGs then this xpac..
This video perfectly encapsulates why Dragonflight is so widely lauded by the community this early after launch.
I hope more people give it a chance, since I know “engagement” metrics on streaming platforms was way lower than Shadowlands’ launch; it’ll take time for people to trust WoW’s quality again, unfortunately.
My personal favorite thing about Dragonflight overall has got to be all the gearing paths. I’m simultaneously engaging with *deterministic* gear systems via professions, PVP, raiding, dungeons, AND multiple open-world systems and it’s SUCH an amazing breath of fresh air! I can work on improving my character by any means I see fit, and can pick the right type of gear for the content.
On a related note, the way they fixed PVP gearing is SOOOO good. After a bit of lowbie-geared rounds of Battlegrounds and weekly PVP quests, I was able to get fully geared up at a competitive level. They even solved the “what do I work on if PVP iLv is mostly close” issue by making the upgrade levels be for PVE content instead. And the crafted stuff is not only competitive with traditional currency-earned stuff; it’s equal or better depending on what you’ve personally earned and how skilled the crafter is.
Simply fantastic!
I only give it a chance if they can prove to me, that it will not be the same grind for casual players as shadowlands for cosmetics. And they shall remove wow token, no more pay to win and/or focus to much on making money via MTXs instead of focus on making more content for the game.
Shadowlands was praised up to 3 months into the launch aswell. We're not falling for it again sorry.
No thanks. I gave up wow years ago
@@cspeitch3262 That’s not completely accurate. Many high-profile community members saw some fundamental major issues with every launch since WoD, including Shadowlands.
The core design of Dragonflight’s endgame have no massive red flags like there were in WoD, Legion, BFA, and Shadowlands, where much of the community could already see dire pitfalls and looming icebergs ahead with how those expansions were setup. None of that seems present thusfar, so I’d be willing to go as far as saying that the only thing Dragonflight needs to succeed over the next two years is pump out consistently timed content.
If they do that, this could be the best expansion we’ve had since 2016 hands-down. It’s already the best launch content we’ve had since 2014 in my subjective opinion.
Awesomely enough, this looks like it might be the case as we’ve gotten the first ever WoW dev roadmap, and it looks great.
@@SquareOFortune Well if you are enjoying it then that's good. I'm always skeptical when I read something with zero negative or zero positive remarks in it. It needs to have a bit of both for me to consider it being objective. Even though it is not always the case most of the time its just hype or hate.
Either way it will become clear by phase two.
Hilarious how you used the classic andy line ‚go and play retail then‘ and turned it around to ‚go and play classic then‘ xD
after 15 years i finally have a reason to come back, the nostalgia is going to be insane :)
great video my dude!
I've had fun since pre launch. My warrior is great to play. max out my dragon flying. Even professions are fun. Excellent review.
I probably won’t play dragon flight just due to limited time but glad people are having fun. I’ve been playing wrath classic off and on and it’s been fun despite some server issues.
I mean, you can literally do the same in Dragonflight. You dont have to play hardcore. There's enough shit to do casually.
@@Diavolo222 oh yeah I know. I’m just still playing wrath and don’t wanna switch yet lol. I should’ve said I don’t have time to play both.
Dragonflight may be in a good place for retail finally, but the best wow ever was and has been since is still wrath. No reason to switch
The problem with WoW expansions is that they render the rest of the game irrelevant. So instead of WoW expansions adding more to the game, they SUBTRACT. Instead of having a world, you have a tiny sandbox of a game. Even the fact that instead of having multiple functional cities players were crammed into Org and SW since Cataclysm is telling. It would be a lot more fun to go to Silvermoon, Exodar, Shattrath, Thunder Bluff or Darnassus and see those places PACKED with players, than feeling like you have to go to the same old SW and Org because everything else is a desert. So until an expansion actually makes the whole world meaningful and relevant again, so that you can actually CHOOSE how to play instead of feeling the need to play a certain way or go to the same old specific places, until an expansion actually EXPANDS on the game rather than limit it, I will always see WoW as a game that has truly died a long time ago.
0:10 this is exactly me ... and i took time of wow to wait for a few reactions before buying it...but i have to say I did enjoy the time off :D and now looking forward to getting dragonflight after the holidays.
Glad there is another classic enjoyer who just sits in the comfy zones for fun. Sometimes I will sit in HF or GH for the background music while I do other things.
My advice to the doomers here in comments: You are absolutely right for being skeptical, Blizzard deserve it. But this expac is amazing and you might wait too long for the "shoe to drop" that you miss out on a great experience.
Do a raid...wait 4 months for next raid...not much too miss
Lol trying to use fomo, is pretty hilarious. Every expansion has a launch like this. Give Blizzard a month or two, they'll probably fuck it up.
@@dijonjohn1011 it is blizzard after all lmao I'd put money on it, tho the game is just a shell of what it once was and no matter how hard they try it will never come back the one shot they had was classic and they botched it as well with an in game shop
@@chefironfry7392 ok Mr game designer
@@yeahnahyeah3883 its fine if you like the current state of wow but im free to have my own opinion and the in game cash shop is the reason I will not come back
I havent play WoW in awhile. Whats the max level now in this
You can’t deny that people are having fun with retail again.
Can and will. Wasn't even sure what game he was talking about.
@@waldorf2007 The game that people are currently enjoying.
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After 12 years I'm still having fun. So much fun in DF that I'm just fishing at first trainer for recipes to sell. D.U.C.K.Y. on AH syk
Can’t deny ppl on retail are full kids who start wow at bfa 😂
Great vid, thx - agree with u 100 %.
Positive problem: What to play, Classic Wrath og Dragonflight :)
Blizz have rly made some good decissions on Dragonflight, hope so much they keep it up. Because Classic Wrath will be the last Classic expansion for me... that is, if they don't make "new" classic content, which I have been hoping for, for years. But thankfully, if Classic ends with Wrath (for me), I have Dragonflight now.
T7 content vs Dragonflight.
Yeah that's not even a question right now lol, maybe if I had parkinson I'd prefer T7 content.
Awesome to see a bit of retail love (now that it deserves it) from the classic community
Can any good soul tell me what is the OST in the background that starts around 5:19 because it sounds amazing.
I only plaid three hours in Shadowlands and logged out bored to death. The land seemed like a reskinned outland with a dumb premise... the afterlife. Yet I and others could die in the afterlife? Dragonflight I am in love with. Hit 70 and enjoying every minute.
2:26 I have to disagree right there, because there is something Blizzard can do to make players like myself appreciate retail: 1) More required group content outside of instanced dungeons and raids 2) have a more organic experience that isn't a cinematic carbon copy that every other player experienced. I prefer the older style of WoW where content required groups and cooperation. I don't like how WoW turned into a single player game where I was the main super hero of azeroth. Instead I want my character's story to be more organic, where I would eventually need help from other players. I don't like it when people tell me to play classic, because I like how expansive the retail world is. Currently there are 9 continents in Azeroth, while there are four other worlds aside from Azeroth. I like being in a huge world with multiple races and factions. However, WoW still feels small. Instead of players calling the Broken Isles by it's landmass name, they call it "The Legion Expansion". Make all continents relevant and prevent them from being outdated. Don't just make the newest expansion's continent the only relevant place where top players can go to. That is the third thing blizzard can do.
Sadly their only goal for retail is to continue to streamline the game and make it as vapid as possible so that everyone can come in and do what they want from the get go and then quit next month cause they achieved what they wanted. Sadly this is not how MMO's should be working.. Or at the least is not how WoW should. I remember making that climb to the top and it taking me time to do it now you can do just everything in the game in about a months time and move on..
As a dedicated player since 2006, I've seen every expansion. Kinda held off on buying Dragonflight right away because I'm already committed on Classic and (with Ulduar right around the corner) didn't wanna commit to 2 games at the same time. I know how real 'new xpac hype' is, but I've gotta say I enjoyed the leveling experience and am looking forward to re-learning DK/running M+ with friends. Great way to fill in the gaps whenever I'm not raiding on Classic, since I'm not interested in leveling alts or GDKPs there.
As a dedicated player in retail I think they will kill WoW with DF cause there is nothing holding players to it for more then a month or two. It has become way too streamlined. Or shall I say the content draught will be HUGE in this xpac cause those of us that know what were doing can do it and no time at all and then what.. There is no grind there is nothing to make you wanna log on no more.. They streamlined allied races, flying, pvp gearing, m+ gearing.... The biggest grind is mount and mog farming but, 96% of the playerbase does not even give a fk about mogging lol.. I love the xpac but, I see its decline coming if they can not get content within a reasonable time.. The honeymoon phase does not last forever before players catch up and see through the BS.
@@vandakaii2893 haha, ah, pvers & their 'content', the whole game is just a lobby for us while we wait for the arena queue to pop & it has been so for more than a decade
@@rhazesyo lol that's not even pve... This guy thinks pathfinder achievement is peak content
I think legitimately my biggest gripe with the expansion is the disney channel loading screen with Alexstrasza looking uncharacteristically dopey
This is what you occupy yourself with?
I think she looks fine. Kalecgos, on the other hand...
@@PerpetualSmile Kalecgos looks nothing like himself on the loading screen and it's weird.
Does Ion still work there? Yes? It won't stay this way for long.
I LOVE this new expansion! Having a blast! I have been cured completely of all desire to play old wow. I will forever play retail, period.
Trust me bro you wont last 1 month.
@@j.o.eofficial1530 Well if ppl pay for play only on a old an dying 15 years old version of wow why he wont have fun on a new very good xpac?
@@maxlepackswowowow9131 this expack is packed with quests and world quests and 4 different renown factions. Its just too much to do you cant live a healthy life playing this game anymore. It will litrrally take your time and life away
@@j.o.eofficial1530 then dont. that content isnt necessary at all. you do it for cosmetic rewards or because youre a completionist
@@Ty-oe4dr yeah well a m+ or raid can take several hours. Its just too much investment. They should bring a valour badge like back in the days. Then u can run normal and heroics but still get good gear
I already have 5 70's and they are all pvp geared and fun to play. This expansions feels like MoP levels of fun again and I never thought WoW would return to those levels. I really hope blizzard keeps it up and continues to listen to what the playerbase wants. Great job so far.
maybe im just a old player, but MOP was one of the biggest fucking fuck ups they did, they made there game a kiddie expansion at that time? or where you 10 years old at the time MOP came out
@@MemeDonkey69 Did you even play mop or did you just superficially glance at the expansion box and thought "eww pandas"?
Mop had one of the darkest and deepest (even if a bit clicheé) stories so far in WoW while having great class design and pvp.
And I thought older people would know better and not judge a book by it's cover so easily...
@@MemeDonkey69 mop is still comfortably the best non classic wow expansion
My concern is, is this what it takes for Blizz to make a good expo? Will they just get complacent as soon as the reviews and opinions are on the up again?
True but let's enjoy it for now LMAO
Like many others in the comments, I'd personally wait until the honeymoon glasses wear off before trusting any of these type of videos
I have 3 chars already fully geared, working on my 4th. Something i wasn't able to do for many years in wow. Leveling is fast, gearing is fast and no obligatory systems in place. Win win in my books
And then you get bored AF and quit cos you have 6 max lvls with welfare epics and nothing to do.
@@seanbailey8545 just like in Wrath classic :D
very good video and review. thanks
Thanks for watching!
The trees are great. No longer looking at guides because there are so many things to play with
is there a way to fly unmounted yet...aside from druids? like priests using levitate and then jumping to fly?
10:51 don’t forget about the different tiers of Battle Passes that contain *exponentially more rewards* with each increasing tier level!
Is the 500/month thing already available?
Dragonflight is much better than I expected. Rather than huge excitement, it is so chill.
I literally enjoy spending time in the world rather than just grinding currencies or gear, which you still could if you wanna be competitive.
Credits to the whole Dev team.
I love the state of the game and eventhough I can only play a few hours a week I still say subbed just for the fact the game is in a good state and fun . Usually I’ve unsubbed now and give up due to falling being on some system they would have made us do.
Best expansion since MoP, loving the game!
Mop was such a good experience, main reason the zones were so beautiful and the theme so solid.
Quit wrath the second i tried dragonflight, im so impressed
oh boy retail players yapping about how the new expac is "soo good broo" while still in the first month, definitely haven't seen this one yet.... Crazy how Blizzard is already firing all kinds of deals and trials for DF already in the first month, numbers must be DOWNNN... Even my retail fanboy friends have already stopped playing and moved on to other games, but this time IT DEFINITELY IS DIFFERENT lmfao
Haha yeah, I've had 3 offers in my E-Mail already from 50% off 3 months, to free 3 day trials lol.
I have played every expansion and so far this is in my top 3.
Dude I completely feel you on the pugging thing, I have had too many bad pug experiences to want to pug anything and would rather run with guildies even if that does put me behind
Agreed, and I dunno if its the influx of new and returning players or what, but pugging feels especially painful at the moment. Just almost guaranteed to have one dps below the tank on the damage meter per M+, and normal raid pugs have just been a disaster ime with less than zero awareness and coordination.
Still, kinda loving DF so far, dragonriding combined with the spacious zones is an absolute triumph imo.
same, but at the same time, finding a guild that suits aligns with my intrests (in the case of retail: active, speaks portuguese like me and does a mix of M+, raids and pvp) has been incredibly hard for me, most that i've joined are pretty much mega guilds with 150 online players, most of them i never see again or even enter the guild discord, so they don't feel any different than regular pugging with premade.
If your wanting to do mythic and your a decent player you can get onto mid mythic bosses comfortably on 2 nights. Some 2 night guilds get CE although they are usually ex hardcore raiders
I fucking love this expanshunnnnn
- shaman . Enh feels stronger and more fun but ele's burst and range is great for open world content with all the procs, aoe, earth. Shocks
As someone who has been deployed for around 9 months and wants to get back onto the game? Is it worth it? I mean I wanna play again I miss my hunter a d wanna play but I've been away for so long
Im really late but i think game is worth playing right now last time i had this much fun on wow was during legion and i really REALLY hated shadowlands so i think blizzard is doing a good job so far
I'm trying to trial for a new guild as well as level a rogue and warlock due to joyous journeys but Blizzard is teasing me with 50 eur dragonflight + 30 days of gametime promotion and I feel like I might have to give in lol, I've never played WoW past Cataclysm but the idea of already paying for a monthly subs and getting borderline two different MMOs doesn't seem that bad. I'm also quite curious how retail raiding and gear progression differs to TBC/WOTLK.
its pretty great right now and the new raid is damn good
If you are not 100% sure dont buy it. If you feel like playing it go for it.
@@erichall090909 Sounds good, and how long does it take to go from level cap to raid ready? I'm lucky naxx is easy and I started playing WOTLKC late so I did a full lockout the same week I hit 80, but I doubt that would be the case here.
Succumb to temptation. U know u want to. All ur wildest dreams are just. 1. Button. Away.
@@Dwesk u can do it within a day if u wanted to lol
Problem with the game now is that I just genuinely don’t know where to start with retail again. Every time I try there is just way way way too much bullshit to learn and so many fucking addons that need to be used if you want to actually compete. I end up just getting frustrated by how overcomplicated the whole game has become, despite pruning and devs making decisions to “simplify the game”. The whole thing just feels like a shit storm of random mechanics.
i'm just glad they are actually working on making professions more interesting. it only took 15 years! O.O
I played from vanilla to WoD and I am going to return for drahonflight. After not caring for years I suddenly want to go back to WoW. The return of talent trees is fantastic.
I would love to raid again but I work shifts 40 hours a week.
You WOW players are like Domestic Abuse victims. You will always come back, no matter how many times Blizzard blackens your eye.
I think it's fair to acknowledge their efforts to improve the game. Objectively they have. That said, I still have a really hard time enjoying retail. I'm one of the classic players who just can't get into the groove of retail for a variety of reasons. Thanks for the review.
one of my favorite builds that isn't optimal is zoo hunter. BM hunter that is all about pulling as many beasts out of the talents as possible. as far as i can tell it isn't good (or im just bad at hunter) but seeing all the beasts is fun.
I’m a classic-andy but DF has been genuinely fun to jump in for an hour or so every few days. First time since MoP that I haven’t quit retail within a week.
its fun to level an alt and spend some new talent points or run some dungeons on my main. the best part is not falling behind so quickly because i wanna take a break. no heart of azeroth bs grind where i have to have all the nodes to do decent damage. all that matters is ilvl and skill
I quit the game in Legion for obvious reasons and was playing since end vanilla. Now coming back for Dragonflight makes me feel like i play the good old wow again. Just with new features. It just feels good
I'm the opposite: no game company can design randomness in a boss encounter the same way a group of idiots on the internet can introduce it. Working with that human-introduced randomness and compensating for it is the most fun part of raiding.
Maybe that's why I main healer.
Damn, your will if made of pure titansteel, I wouldn't last a month playing pugs
havent tried dragonland yet jst been playin classic its looks good though nice color and the shaman theme is cool
The raid is extremely fun, however, trying to do it in a pug without voicecomms first few weeks, is gonna be next to impossible due to how much co-ordination you need on a few bosses.
Normal can be cleared with relative ease without voicecomms, the only wall I really hit was raszageth herself and that was mostly waiting for people to stop messing up
Cleared the first 3 bosses with a pug in one go
I mean. The number of times I've wiped Sennarth... literally had one group where some of the dps (I was healing) were telling the healers they just needed to heal more. As they ignored literally every mechanic. Stood in the ice. Spread the ice up the stairs before we pulled boss up. Stood in webs. Tanks didn't point add away from raid.
Etc etc.
There are a few where pugs can absolutely be undoable because there is no quality control on who you get. Just have to leave and find a new one
I've played since 2004, and until BfA I couldn't have imagined ever leaving WoW, but BfA and SL gave me SO many reasons to hate the game, and I felt so sad about it. I stuck with it, and am loving Dragonflight! I feel free again in WoW; playing my way, how I wish to, and not being funnelled through a forced game-play and story-line that I hate.
Dragon Riding is amazing, And the fact that not every inch of the land is Quest related; just to fly, swooping and souring over unexplored land is freedom itself.
Having a great time.
i'd say it isnt as much of a singleplayer game now. i feel incentivized to do world content as a group or with my guildies, in fact this expansion has brought my guildies back to playing the game together for the first time in awhile
This expansion has allowed me to dip my toes into having an alt. Never done before and I'm loving the experience. Hope Blizzard keep pumping out W.
Never have I ever leveled 2 different alts at the same time right after getting done with my main after the start of the expansion this early on.
RE: Big Bad. I really really really hope they don't make Galakrond or w/e it's name is the 'big bad'. No nerds, I didn't read 'ThE bOoKs' and don't care to. Making either Nozdormu the villain to me is the only thing that makes sense. The infinite dragonflight have been an original antagonist with a presence since TBC and making Murozond a dungeon boss was such a cop out.
isnt there a healers drought now for searching for anything?
i havent really seen that personally. but cant speak for others. queue times seem reasonable
For leveling there is, if I queue as dps I can wait 15 mins, if healer then around 3 mins (lvl 65 now)
Do you still have to go through a tedious Pathfinder questline in order to fly??
No you get it after like 10 quests while levelling
As a new player. I have no clue what im supposed to do and what the main story questline is 🤔
The honeymoon phase is *strong* with this expansion
you can just say the game is good it's okay
It's the same trash it has always been. Retail WoW will never be worth playing again.
@@feo130 why?
They’ll be back to classic in no time
@@feo130 ignorantly pessimistic, if you want to replay vanilla over and over then go for it with the other crazy euros and chinese people.
Vanilla isn't a magical cool mmo after you do it 8 times over
Flying in this expansion makes it fun to travel 😀
Classic exists, but one day Blizzard are going to force it to move into Cataclysm and then there will once more be no version of WoW I am interested in.
I mean it's pretty obvious Iridikron is going to be the final boss, no?
Ion said that we'll basically know who the final boss is by the end of the first raid. The cinematic from the Vault indicates Iridikron will be the final big bad
No, it'll be The Warden, who was The Jailer's boss. That's why he was taking the power from Azeroth, silly; he was stuck in the earth.
Im a pretty simple wow player. For example transmoging was imo the best update to the game for me.
But this dragon riding might just top that
I think what this signals is that as Blizzard transitions to a Microsoft company next year, they're ready to abandon the monthly sub and become a Game Pass driven title that will not only bring new players in but reward existing subscribers with even more games for free. I was subbed for WotLKC for about two months but once I hit the gotta dedicate time to raiding wall, I fell off and canceled again. Dragonflight sounds amazing, but I'm not willing to sub for the experience. As a Game Pass subscriber, I'd absolutely play it casually with no strings attached because there are so many games I want to get through now that I'd only have time to play for a few hours or I can shift priorities around on my own terms.
Monthly sub games are dying, and this should be the last holdout that falls moving forward.
best state in week 2 of a major xpac?! no way!
This is literally what everyone says at the beginning of every xpac...
I will never understand how people unironicaly say that class design has changed. Almost every spec is copied over from Shadowlands with the only difference being able to pick and choose a bit more. You still hit like a wet noodle without cd's wich has been a major point of criticism for the last couple expansions now and as far as I know there hasnt been any changes to fix that problem. I guess its always been more of a problem in the PvP community since ur just forced to trade CD's there. But even in PvE it felt like I would always burn out realy fast after "learning" a class/spec, since executing ur burst in the right way and knowing exactly when to use it in any given dungeon or raid is pretty much all you need to know to perform well (excluding mythic raids/very high m+). Sorry for giving such a doomer-take here, I gotta admit pretty much everything they changed is for the better and Im realy hoping to see this trend continue going forward :)
I'm a classic andy for sure, but tried Dragonflight and it's just wayyy better than Classic.
In 2 hours, I'll have gained exp for my dragon riding, unlocked a new recipe or sub talent in my profession tree, learned something about my talents, progressed through the story and dinged once or twice.
In classic, 2 hours is like, a quarter of a level. You feel like you've done and achieved a lot more in retail.
What will happen if they see head of onyxia?
Bought it and played it for 5 days...i have not touched it since. Did not like it at all sadly.
Same here, excepting the "5 days" part. I tried it for about 10 hours the first few weeks, and was bored out of my mind the entire time.
I am loving Dragonflight so far
Can anyone tell my why fishing is so popular? Is it the achievements?
People who are unemployed will do anything to fill their time, regardless of how menial it is.
It's too bad retails class design is so completely awful for anything even remotely resembling PvP.
Classic really has its "structural" and obvious flaws (e.g., old horrible arena maps, PvE to PvP, no solo queue, no cross-server queues, too long time to level/gear up besides AV weekend, no catch-up cap, built in 30% dodge/parry, +resist/-hit talents/racials which are not possible to realistically gear around, rng non-static DR 15-20sec timers, awful abilities like heroism and attack-from-behind-only abilities), and it really shows, and it's awful that they havn't fixed at least the most aggregious things on that list in the remaster.
However, the "core" class design in WotLK Classic, even with the flaws, is miles better and more suited for PvP - and this is the #1 thing of importance.
Also, this is just DFs honeymoon phase. We'll see where it lands once we start nearing the end of the expansion.
I don't think its really a surprise that its fun. Its Blizzard's version of one of GW2's best mechanics, their mount system, and their class design stuff is upfront now.
I do think they're will be an issue in a few months time in regards to players complaining about "lack of progress".
All i want is for them to rip roller beetle from gw2 in the next xpac
I was a Enhancement main for 3 expansions and I quit retail in BfA. Seeing that spec so high on parses makes me want to go back
enhancement main here. its possibly in its best state ever rn. mechanically its a blast, its very flexible with several viable talent builds, and it deals great damage.
@@Ty-oe4dr That sounds promising
well said.
We need dragon riding in all zones 😂
They took most of the open world events of GW2 and put them in WoW
Best decision ever
The leveling experience was so much better than Wrath’s that’s for sure
Gotta remember that back then, a large part of the game was the journey during the leveling. But everyone just wants to skip and ignore that.
Copium more xD leveling on retail is so pathetic cmon
@@clerniaz131 Brother, leveling in Classic is literally just "kill 15, gather 20" and takes almost days of repetitive, dull playtime. It seems like you're the one coping, my man
Leveling in classic is memorable, with open world pvp erupting and that chance of epic loot dropping of random mobs. Leveling in Dragonflight is just zoom kill zoom turn in *skip cinematic* zoom kill zoom
@@LyriXris PVE/95% faction favored PVP servers: Jessie, what the fuck are you talking about? Also what epic loot? the purple pixel that'll be rendered irrelevant as soon as you reach Hellfire Peninsula?
With this kind headlines u want to make me play this game 😅
My friend got dragged into playing wow with our friends through every awful expansion and he hates the game. Now I'm trying to explain to him that it's actually the best it's been in over a decade and actually a really fun game now. He doesn't believe me and refuses to play lol. I've honestly hated WoW since MoP, I thought I'd check out this expansion cause the talent trees looked cool and I'm actually blown away but how much I'm enjoying it. Crazy what happens when the devs take community feedback seriously.
Your friend is me, I just can't do it, too much time to invest in something I don't believe in
@@nolabets3130 same. Plus I hate the new graphics/animations/models
PvP is my reason to play and oh man, they are finally letting solo PvP players get rewards
Sounds too good to be true if you ask me. I'll wait for the shoe to drop. As amazing as flying a dragon looks like, my almost 400 mounts grinded and the thought of my favourite flying mounts collecting dust and becoming obsolete and completely inferior makes me sad on the inside. If they actually made other flying mounts have the same kind of flying mechanics as dragonflying though if dragonflying is capped...that would actually be insane and motivate me to grind some mounts again.
Here is my shoedrop: This is the better DLC released out of the recent 3 but, it caters too heavily to the casual side of things and my issue is that it will not have nothing keeping vets wanting to play it. As a player of WoW for over 13 years this DLC although good has nothing to keep me coming back to logging on every day any more.. I beat the primary Q in 3 days hit level 70 and pushed in the Arenas and have all my Arena gear minus my boots all within a month........... It has gone so casual that there is nothing to grind for no more.. The game used to be about pushing to be the best but, now you can log on and look at someone who has played for 20+ years and cant tell the difference between them and someone who played for a year less you start pulling out mounts.. I think this DLC is in the right direction but, it will kill off the more primary fans after a few months when they realize how empty the xpac is unless there is a huge influx really soon of Dragonflight stuff to do.. Its hard to even be happy for the dragon riding cause its limited to the Isles so once you leave to go mog farm or w/e its RIGHT BACK to the norm.. This xpac in my eyes has only brought back skill trees and nothing more and I want to love it but, the WoW fan in me knows this is the goodbye cause I have really got nothing more to do already. BFA sucked but the grind although too much was perfect near its end and it was the same for SL.. Now we have Dragonflight and you can do it all in a month and quit and move on.... This is just not for me no more it has just become WAY too streamlined. Perhaps I will come back but I doubt it.
Who cares, I hit 400 mounts in the pre patch, dragon riding is way more fun :)
@@vandakaii2893well there’s a lot more casual players out there then there are those that can play 30 + hours a week. Most people have to work and socialize lol.. WOW should continue to focus on a more balanced game that everyone can enjoy instead of a hand full of no life’s running around one shoting 97% of the player base.
@@MrCwilson84 We will see in about 3 months.. When the honeymoon phase is over and the rose tinted googles fall off.
@@vandakaii2893 i like the wording of that. hope blizzard has just baited all the simps in agian