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Target these commanders first [open field tier list] Rise of Kingdoms
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- In this video sponsored by the makers of Rise of Kingdoms (ROK) we review the best commanders to target first in the open field.
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0:00 Target Priorities
2:18 Making the list
10:17 Prioritizing the list
18:49 Conclusions & META-Only
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I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD MAKE NEVSKY A HIGHER PRIORITY - I DEFINITELY GET IT. ARE THERE OTHER PRIMARY COMMANDERS YOU'D PRIORITIZE? This list is prioritized by primary commander because they're immediately visible, whereas secondary commanders can only be viewed during a skill-cycle. discord.gg/chisgule
I think the list is getting mixed between free kills and important to kill. Cyrus would be more important to kill than Amani but she is a lot easier to kill with her 0 march speed.
You should do a dueling pair tier list, of the best pairs if you’re in a duel with someone.
What about skip/Honda and guan/Sargon as two primary inf marches? Would also love to know what u think about bringing 3 marches such as guan/skip, nevsky/joan, and boudica/artie w full set, arguably the best comms combos in The game to bring to the open field, and what they should be skilled at minimally. Would be cool to see such a vid expelling how u could bring multiples marches without having to max them and still get pretty darn decent trades. Hopefully I worked myself correctly
Pakal/Harald combo is still doing massive KP for many players open field.
Don't forget that many players are low spenders or f2p in other kingdoms and try to reach the kvk minimus on the most efficient way.
Chisgule low key trying to fool us into avoiding his Trajan
I was thinking the same thing lol
he is wrong about the trajan argument in the sense that trajan in 5vs5 gets weaker with every dead march so it is not the same as a murder ball
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You should update the list of best 5511 commanders, I want to see that
3:18 I FEEL ATTACKED LOL
Chisgule always there to lead f2p and low spenders into not wasting years of efforts in building their account ❤️
Thanks for quality content bro
I will always target every archer is see 😂
We hate you
2 thoughts:
1- Leo primary. I use it, and people regretted to focused him. But I get the Noob alert. In my case it's a trap. So just heads up to check the profile of the owner ;)
2- Should do VS actually doing; I feel the same. In my KD ball I feel my role is to rule out high DPS marches so my lower tech and more f2p player can have better overall trades and sustain fights longer. War is a marathon, not a sprint!
Good video. Even experienced players don't take this seriously enough. I would say it is rare that you get a chance to actually hit all the targets. Generally once the first or second marches get knocked out the opponent runs away. Still on those rare occasions they do decide to duke it out the prioritization does make a huge difference. I generally target XY first even above Nebu as the faster rage cycle concerns me more than anything Nebu brings to the table. Despite being an infantry main the XY rage cycle is a higher priority for me than getting archers off the field.
Always uploading useful and awesome content🔥🔥🔥 Keep it up!
Hell yes my friend; you should put Ragnar in “Ignore “ category
I've found that using Alex primary with scipio secondary doesn't get targeted very much compared to scipio alex, so I end up getting better trades.
Alex is very squishy bruh, he got no defence or health and will melt down really fast if he's not expertised and doesn't have good defensive equipment on him
@@shafaykhan9339 Trajan/ Alex bro. Deadly
@@decentrik never seen this combo
@Shafay Khan its the offense version of trajan for all Infantry. Big damage with shields for other marches.
@@decentrik That's more of a 5th or 6th march though, yeah? I see whales doing it.
Chisgule just upload an important notes for everyone.
Very nice. Big Mind
I would say Tariq is medium to low target because he deals more damage when surrounded, and he is usually paired with Pakal.
+1
I want to try him with martel as 4 march... good idea or no? Im inf focus...
I think we should bump down amonitor, tariq, saladin and Richard 1 category...
And but william primary in NOOB!! (maybe richard too🤔)
all this are good but the high priority comms, lets say budica prime/nebu or henry are they high priority for a guan/leo for example? if you are only cavs in field it doesnt matter who is your prioritys
It's next to impossible to accurately target marches in big with so much on the screen, I target what is closest to the ball and whatever oversteps.
In smaller skirmishes though as an Archer purist I just target infantry/debuffers.
You’re completely right, I was talking to my self yesterday like how tf am I supposed to single out a march in a murder ball fight. I zoomed in to my march and who ever passed by I just attack and pull back
If they’re too compacted, I’ll zoom out and fight using the dots
Leave my Boudicca ALONEEE😭😭😂
I normally agree with you but I use YSG/mehmed since my budica it’s not ready and I still do great 😌
Damn I wanna fight you and swarm that ysg for ez kills 😂
I want to fight you
Im using same march for same reason. It does a lot of damage just have to be carefull and not get swarmed
Thank you. I actually requested this video before. Super excited for it. Thank you Chisgule!!
I dont know what machines do people use so they can prioritize something in huge fights in imperium kvks..tried it and just couldnt do it ..even on pc version on pretty solid pc..on the other hand by zooming out the map ,my reports are great ..even though i dont know who i hit..its just much easier to control marches and not get swarmed
I think this is an incredible video that will help people in EVERY stage of the game. We had a fighting guide just like this - squishy, high dps always goes first, after epics...which earlier were the noob comms.
Ignore the tanks. Very simple to explain in 3 categories, which is how you rounded it down. Like this very much.
Newer players? Save sculpts for the big 7 and don't invest too heavily in early game, except for the comms that you move to secondary in Soc.
please make a guide on which armement to use on each commander
My top priorty is usually just the closest little grey pyramid lol.
I agree with the list - Ian f2p
Legendff uses Edward lol 👀. He is far from a noob. He like the great grandfather of RoK. He was there when RoK was an infant 😩!
Noob category should be named “Super First Priority” because those are clearly the more priority targets
I would probably move Alex a little bit. If someone is still using Alex as primary, that's probably (not always) a weak account.
In murderball my first Targets are (Boudica, Trajan, XY, Guan) now I add (Nebu) because I didn't know that Nebu is squishy. Of Cource in addition to Noobs commanders.
In Rise of Dots, I’m just killing everything dragged into our MB 😂
Hello Can i ask you when will i have different comanders in daily offer thats CaO CaO
I think you should have a "potential garrison" category. A lot of the "noob alert" could realistically be a garrison going/coming someplace and I'd prioritize them even higher than the noobs personally.
Seondeok top priority
I tend to diamond fighting aka dot fighting by zooming out and looking for the white and red diamonds to smash.
I’ll try this out, but like this you can’t see commanders
I did the same...because we can easily see which enemy is offside to our ball and easy target to kill
@@Pesticide7G that's correct you cannot see the commanders but see who the easy targets are and swarm them.
i feel like the error here is not doing it a common pairs. The pairs themselves change the order,
Yknow, your final list isn’t bad whatsoever, but I feel as if high spenders, high kvk tech and geared players have a different priority list than general rok players. I try to hit the hardest marches first for my kd/coalition-mates. It hurts me the most, but I feel as though focusing them helps the rest of my field fighters. 😢
True , knock out the Harvestehude enemie is the best help for normal fighters, so they might can stay in field vs more Equalizer enemies. Doesnt help if the whale just kills alot Unterhemd Player and leave the whales to others ....
I dont agree about the noob list. Yeah the commanders do belong there, but a noob is never a priority. I need to target the strongest players right of the bat... except athefled which is must. You want to control the field, not exchange well. The field is higher priority for me...
In a murder ball i usually don’t even look at who I’m attacking. In smaller fights when I use Martel he gets ignored really hard and I can’t chase anyone down with him cuz he’s slow af
I still kinda do the same thing at ruins. Which I assume this video is towards. But in more competitive levels every troop wounded counts in an offensive push
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Only thing is some ppl just dont have that many commanders. I really only have 2 marches. I stopped taking 3-5 marches
Why did you put Tariq to high priority? Just asking
He's good on field and rally.
Unfortunately targeting specific commanders is almost impossible in a big murder ball. Also, ignoring specific commanders doesn't tell the whole story. There could be a Scipio or a Sargon behind that Martel you're ignoring. Also, Alex or William primary - noob alert. Any attack tree primary (other then Atilla) should be a noob alert.
I dont really understand why you say that... my guan scipi trade worse with same gear than alex scipi... i did pass 4 with alex main. Then guan main at pass 7. Alex has more agility which helps running away. And he protects the surrounding. Best value ive ever had. But i might be wrong...
@@Placebo6 That's due to Alex being good, not due to attack talent tree. Put Alex behind Scipio and he'll be good. But attack tree is almost useless if you look at the talents there.
Tysm for this, keep up the great work! :)
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They should add something to the Archer talent tree to make them less squishy. Trades against Archers are far better than the other types
Neveski and Joan Prime combo needs to be killed off/ attacked first, that march does so much damage plus AOE. Neveski generally carries Joan P as second. Hitting that combo has a psychological effect on the enemy when that combo quickly retreats as long as you don't chase it into a murder ball. Leaving them around ( fast and high damage) are going to create tons of damage on you and your allies. War is not just about killing off easy kills first, it also has to do with psychology. Otherwise good reasonable list,
Hello its a nice guide but where is it for season 1 and 2? I think So much New Player need this guide👀 Tank you for nice Video 👍👍
plot twist: or they are baiting the L out of you to leave the ball/territorry. -me.
My takeaway from this video is ' slay the noob'
@chisgule while i agree that maybe trajan should not be prio. but to compare his value in 5vs5 to his value in murder ball is completely out of the window. in a 5vs5 trajan value goes lower after the first march is dead, and keeps going lower and lower with every dead march. that's why he is way MUCH weaker in 5vs5 than he is in murderball.
My list of top targets in order - Khan, Aethelflaed, any epic.
Hey chisgule, I have a question. I’m a low spender and I don’t have expertised boudica so should I still put boudica/Artemis or use an other secondary. But I don’t have expertised legendary
You should make a tear list for best cavalry infantry archer and garrison list
If you do a search for "chisgule cavalry" or "chisgule infantry" etc. you'll find that I do have top X lists for each troop type. I've also made a best garrison video too
@@Chisgule ok
I go for buffing/debuffing or whoever is closer
To be honest I feel like guan doesn’t get targeted much at all because i run 4 marches guan Leo scipio Alex xy Nevsky Boudica ysg and my guan is usually the last target I think that’s becuase a lot of guans have Leo behind them or something like that
@chisgule we need an update to this list!
Good video, i'd like an investment orders updated video now than we know all this x)
no, well hahaha I literally take all the commander noobs as primary, I'm going to kvk1 of course but I don't know which gear would work for you with YSG until kvk4, I thought about taking etelfleda YSG but now I don't know 🤧🤧🤧
Archers are practically useless at this point unless there’s a Zenobia
I'm working on a bot to summarize reports in the PC version. Where do you get the pictures of the commanders?
What if someone does Trajan Scipio?
Hey chisgule if you read this can u do a tierlist on the best commanders when u start in kvk season 1 I just started playing again 3 months ago and now i don't know what commanders are the best love ur vids thank you
Sun Tzu, Charles Martel, Richard, Ysg, Beli/Baibars
Did you tryed the game : Stormfall Saga of Survival ?
Chisgule do you have a vip shop video? Wouldn’t mind knowing whatyou think about the items it offers and how you rank them as far as bang for your buck.
24h speedups and materials are what I buy. 10% buffs during mtg
Hey chisgule can ysg still be used. With boudica prime as secondary?
I would not recommend this. You want boudica to apply her skill dmg taken debuff first so YSG does more damage when he hits.
@@Chisgule so should I stop upgrading ysg and. Save sculps for commanders. Like guan scipi or Alex the great? And leave ysg at lvl 40 for barbs
@@IhsanKhan-hf9oe I believe he means use boudica as primary and ysg secondary.
@@IhsanKhan-hf9oe stop spending your exp on ysg not sculptures because the one that should be used as primary is boudica
Great video,but you gain rage when being attacked you just won't active your active skill
That's correct. But if no one is targeting you and you're just walking, you aren't gaining rage.
Boudica henry, still underrated :D
Chisgule this might be a long response but this is for anyone out there i just made R4 in my guild and im watching your videos again as i play thru my 2nd try at the game and i got this preminission about it sevreal months ago but it was just "some game and i was really good at it" then i ended up in jail along time ago...anyways do people believe in preminissions? thanks chisgule i hope i can serve my clan well as an officer being wanted feels good man
As long as Guan is first and foremost yeah
Good video any season 2 commander primarly in soc redflags newbie from old kds pov exept maybe sala
I love my nebu but man he is just lamb to the slaughter every fight lol
lag is so bad I usually have to zoom out to fight with just dots. can't really pick who I hit.
Big GG
Same I always land on a full t5 papal harald as a t4 f2p
@@quwert7 as long as I don't accidentally swarm a rally, it's acceptable.
Even jon!? I thought you will put at medium priority...
Thank you very much 🤩
Do some more videos like these (commanders tier list for example) for f2p bro 😊
Nice video 🫡🫡🔥🔥
Still need same guides about Rally / Garrison commanders with explanation. It would be great!
Hey can Somebody Tell me If ysg/Tomy is playable for kvk3 im an archer Main and dont know what to Play except this or Something with El cid or thutmose
Thutmoose has more defense but you'll get targeted either way ysg/thutmoose dont use your universal tho you'll have to get 5155 Tommy for it to be good
@@iamAdrian_Gaming OK thx wasnt the Plan to Invest in El cid or thutmose but i wasnt Sure If ysg/Tomy are to squishy
@@iamAdrian_Gaming yea thats what i was thinking but i dont have over Options for kvk3 as an archer Player
@@eliashartje9955 use ysg thutmoose and save for SOC commanders
What does Sun tzu say about war? LoL 😆, jk. But I'm sure you could find you answer weather to attack the Damage dealers, or the Defense tank's first? But also theirs no exact formula to war.. I believe you're definitely close 💪
But should i expert scip prime first? Then make guan 5 1 1 1 only (my noob question since next kvk is soc)
scipy is meta max him 1st.
U must check out new imperium 2949 ;)
Constantine-Leo is also pretty good, because you’re getting Leo’s extra damage, you’re very hard to kill, and are constantly debuffing you’re target, and you’re allies also get the damage reduction. Two other good pairs are Richard constantine, and Richard Leo. You have extremely powerful debuffs, take much less damage, and have a 20000 healing factor when you get below 50% health for Richard Constantine, and you get your heal more often with Leo second, and you care extremely hard to kill.
I feel like Ramesses melts very quickly.
He sort of does, but he gains march speed and defense when targeted so he’s actually pretty difficult to chase down.
Could i order chinese if u dont it just slidw off
I have all noob? 😂 Nebu,CPO,Guan,Joan💔
Joan -> Nevksy -> Scipio -> Boudica is the priority order everyone needs to focus. Don’t be selfish, win the murderball fight.
is it better to do 5511 nevsky and 5511 joan p or max out nevsky?
max nevsky no matter what.
U need to check kingdom 2949 ;) big things coming for this kingdom
Hey chisgule, if I want to pair guan yu with scipio, who should I primary?
Guan/scipio
Definitely the guan. Guan damage is cut in half if he's secondary
@@Chisgule Thank you chisgule
I love how everyone thinks atilla can't be used In a meta murder ball. He is such an insane meatshield while my aoe marches slaughter you and still trades positive with pendant and book
why should anyone focus your attila if you have other marches on the field to kill, that has no sense
flavius - noob alert ... ME : shocl ... i liked my flav scippio for 1 kvk , he done good trades , maybe just because he is more ignored ;D
chisgule ik the meta for kvk 1 is bjorn sun tzu but do you think i could use sun tzu joan instead i feel like if pretty much everyone went that the buff would be useful as not as many people would use joan and ive invested more into joan than bjorn
Use Martel with Sun Tzu behind him
@@bossmanebz I'm f2p
Use 5111 Richard with joan
You could get baited with Leo, someone prob can put Harald behind
You're not wrong, leo is a weird primary to see on the field
Leo harold even baited than gonna get rekt and usually people runing that are either noobs or 5511 leo low tech low equipment top players will never run that wheres boudica marchers nev or scipio are usually best equipment
@@ramos_pinho117 yeah,Good point.but anything can happen lol
What would I do if I’m running or plan to run 4 cav marchs?
Look at his previous video, best open field marches.
@@KJKNOL I did But he only gave three
@@elijahbiles1511 😉 Nev Joan, XY Honda, Chandra William, Atilla Tekada or Saladin Aeth probably.
@@KJKNOL thanks
Alex is straight up Noob Alert. There are zero marches where he should be primary and he's not tanky at all, just free kills.
Not sure why Joan primary would be a higher priority than Nevsky primary since they're paired with eachothers either way lol
Chisgule, you need to replace nebu with henry
There is a way of thinking that’s kind of weird but it’s how I think.
Imagine someone is using 2 archer, 2inf, 1 cav. The cav will be nev and it will have good gear, the first inf will have his best gear (scipio or guan), 2 archer primaries boudica and nebu. So obviously nebu will be the weakest march in his 5 march then boudica because archers have best epic gear then guan then scipio then last nevsky because most people have full legendary for their cav and main inf
Most of the time I go for nevsky before the inf but it depends
LoL, basically tier lists would low key say don’t play the game.
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Crap, 4 of my marches made it to the end lol
Actually all 5, I somehow missed the Guan..oof
almost all of my commanders are noob ig
Hey
@chisgule also the fact that you put honda in the noob catagory shows that you guys lack in game knowledge. and the fact that you think he should be paired with tomy is the reason you don't know how to use him. but then again you have not put him to a proper test ot know. and again thinking that "long cycles = tomy" is not the way to go. honda primary requires specific conditions and once the conditions are met he does better than nevsky but aoe. at least damage wise.
Your game knowledge is insane. Can you please show what should be paired with honda primary that is also better than Nevsky please.