I WALKED OVER 1000KMS!! Here’s what I used!
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- All the gear, clothes, food, sleeping stuff and camera stuff so you will know why it was a bit on the heavy side ;)
In other words, this is the video where I go through all the gear I used!
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A ton of planning for this trip. Amazing how you packed it all and found the locations to mail ahead of time. Excellent tips. Actually didn't know Fjallraven made a 72L your trip. I thought they only had the 52L. Peace
yeah brother, a ton! lot's of doubts too but we gotta live and learn! :)
Great video! Thanks for sharing 👍
my pleasure! :)
Alright, I think this is the video I’ve been waiting for!!
this is the one yes, but one week later than first promised! :)
I love the sun hoodie! I watch Kraig Adams and he uses one of those. Then i saw Fjällräven sell one and i bought it straight away for my High Coast hike. It works like a charm in hot sun. So great to see you use one!
Nice! Glad to hear that you like it!
Cool and very interesting. Thanks for sharing 😉👍
My pleasure Anders! :)
Tack för att du delar med dig av vilken utrustning du använde under denna bravad till vandring. Flera guldkorn till utrustning som jag kommer kika vidare på 🙂
nöjet är helt på min sida! :) kul att du såg något du gillade! :)
Interresting to see what you had with you on Grönna bandet.I also hiked it last summer,but I dont think we meet.I finish very late at Trerikröset 29 september.Happy new year.I hope we get many good adventures i 22.ATB:Søren
I would have remembered if we did brother! likewise to you! catch you on the trail!
Nice bro!!! Hope you’re well!!
:) thank you! one day at a time brother! :)
I recently noticed that Fjallraven has synthetic down jackets. I would like to try one out up here in northern Minnesota during the winter. I was recently looking to pick up another backpack and was considering buying the Keb72 but couldn't find any video reviews online. Now that I have seen you hugging yours, I am wondering if my initial impression was correct, and it is as good a pack as I thought that it would be. I guess that I will have to be satisfied with my new Osprey Kestrel for now. Oh well, you live, and you learn. Thanks for sharing your adventure with us. Happy New Year to you and your son my friend.
Always so nice to hear from you brother! I made a review of the keb 52, the 72 is essentially a bigger version of that! I hope the osprey pack will work out for you! wishing you and yours all the best! :)
Congrats! Inspiring
Thank you! :)
Love it❤thanks for sharing
Thanks brother!
Damn bro, somebody has been going to the gym 😄💪🏼 well done 👍🏽
Thanks for sharing and congrats on completing your trip.
Ps.
Postnord (like others) doesn’t like it when you send gas cannisters.
I never left the gym! :) thanks brother!
I know, I talked with them many times regarding that! Both when I went there and with their costumer service! :)
Nice to see what you used. This actually made up my mind between a Lite 1 and Lite 2. If Ted can carry the 400g extra weight through the green ribbon, I can do it for a few days 😂
One thing that still amazes me is the volume of everything, specially the food. I also got the keb 72, but I doubt that I will get everything in the pack 😂
it's a great tent! hope you'll like it! a lot of stuff was outside the pack at times!
Bro, I really like the color grading on your video 🔥
Thanks brother! :)
Very helpful video, nice to see some of the same gear. I have 2 pair of Abisko tights and they are amazing! Still looking for the perfect long sleeve that is not too hot, nor too cold to layer up easily. :)
awesome! in case u missed it, have a closer look at the Abisko sun hoodie! great stuff!
@@TedWeirum it looks very comfortabele with great freedom of movement. I looked up if they still had it, but looks like Abisko dun hoodie (W) is not available atm! I'll keep an eye out for it. :)
Bra intressant genomgång, tack!
Tack för att du tittade Jens! :)
Man, the Abisko Trekking Tights are still my hands down favorite piece of your gear.
When are we doing the Polar Classic? You drive, I'll take care of the dogs and carry the chocolate.
mine too! :) haha, I hope you'll apply for it if you can!
@@TedWeirum Can I borrow your tent?
Nice videos and gear, will watch more you're fueling my already expensive Fjallraven addiction, got enough skogsos and oviks at this point probably :D
Thanks brother, what’s your experience with skogsö, I’ve yet to try anything from that serie!
@@TedWeirum Love my skogsö, fits like a glove with the super long arms, had it for 2 years and wear in all weather with a sweater under when needed, just rewaxed which I find helps against the wind a lot. Hope you get a chance to try it and enjoy the weekend!
you are an influencer! :) I'll see what I can do to get a chance to try it!
It would B really cool if U could talk more about that Expedition Latt Hoodie. Very interested in that. Can’t decide between the Latt & the Expedition Jacket version.
two different thicknesses, for Texas I would assume that the lätt hoodie would work!
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Videon eller jag eller båda? ;)
Jag följer många backpackers från USA och märkte inte ens att du var svensk förrän efter en stund. Väldigt bra engelska och härligt när du drog några rader på svenska också 😊 Kul att se vad du hade med dig, gear loadouts är alltid kul 🙂
Tack! vad kul att höra! ja, jag vill visa upp lite vad vi har här också, både för oss som bor här men även de som inte gör det! :)
Thank you for sharing
my pleasure! :)
What kind of boots are you wearing in this video?! Love the gear and sharing all of this with us.
hanwag Torne, and yes there should be an old review on them on the channel! :)
Greetings from the west coast of Canada! Planning a trek like this definitely takes careful planning and you seem to have done really well. For myself, I'm heading out for a 1200 km (2-month) trek in the Rocky Mountains, and most of it is above the treeline. The longest stretch without being able to restock is about 2 weeks in the mountains. You did this 1000 km trek a year ago using the Keb 72. I was curious if you found that more than sufficient or if you wished you had a bit more room? I'm trying to decide if I will be getting the Keb 72 or Kajka 85 L pack. ** Oh, and yes, about the tights...I normally wouldn't get those, but you inspired me to get a pair. I've already tried them a couple of times here and I have to say that I am amazed at how comfortable they are 🙃
Hahaha, ten points for the tights!! So glad you like them! :)
Remember that I had a ton of camera gear as well so I’d say that the keb 72 is sufficient! This sounds very interesting! Best of luck brother!
Great thanks! Do you prefer the Keb over the Kajka? Wich brand are your boots? Have you tried the DJI Action 2, it's quite light and dynamic? It would be useful if you put the gear mentioned in the description. Congrats on your 1000 km!!
hey! thanks brother! good idea about the gear, I'll see when I got the time! they are in videos on the channel! the boots are Hanwag Torne. I thought about the DJI action 2 but decided to go with Gopro. :)
Be safe and Good Luck.
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Amazing video Ted which type of camera u are using I like the colour and contrast in it.
thanks brother! it's the Sony a7s3 :)
Hi there Ted, i also have the Keb 72 i live in a very dry dessert area. Most of the time places don’t have a lot of water so hiking with 4L-6L of water for a 2day adventure is quite normal.
Nevertheless the pack gets extremely heavy i did weighed mine to almost 50-60lb now in winter ( winter is a heavy game anyways)
My question is do you know from your personal experience what is the birchwood load tolerance. Or if you ever felt that after so much load the frame was gonna snap out?
very good question, I Neve considered that! well, the way its designed it's just as strong as an aluminum frame. I was never worried or even concerned that it would break, the thought never crossed my mind! it's very sturdy!
great loadout
Thx brother!
Nice! Do you have a review about your backpack?
Made a review on the keg 52, same same but different!
Nice info you gave us. The whole series I was thinking how many kg's of camera gear is he taking with him. 😀
Another thing isn't clear for me. Did you finish in Abisko or continue north?
you've seen some of it when we met! I decided to finish in Abisko!
Hi Ted, thank you for your videos they are a pleasure to watch. I have one question; Where did you send the food packets? Maybe you already point it out in your videos, but I didn’t find it. I come from Germany and planing also a long tour through Swedens north. I thought it would be easier, but the planing is harder then I thought Germany is totally different then the north part of Sweden I dont even find a Town where to send anything 😂 Already Thank you and greetings
Thera are different locations along the way, best is to search the villages that you’re going to be close or pass through, call the local supermarket or camping and ask, that’s what I did, it worked great! :)
How on earth did you fit All that in to a keb 72 😮 i have the keb 72 aswell... Impressive!
I know you've used the kajka backpack previously. Do you prefer the keb over the kajka? You Seem to be a man with fairly wide shoulders, like myself, and i'm thinking about getting the kajka for the abillity to adjust the width on the shoulderstraps, as i sometimes feel the keb to be a bit narrow for comfort on longer trips. Also i miss the abillity to open Up the big compartment room, compared to the keb being topfilled.
rest assured, I didn't! a lot of the stuff was outside the pack at times! :)
yes, I do prefer the keb over the kajka, I really think the keb is a perfected backpack, so glad I used it for this adventure!
I think if the make a crossover between those to packs we would get the ultimate backpack!
And i thought hiking was about relaxing and enjoying nature... recharging the soul. This was more like a marathon stress gear video in long johns 😂 so hurry that forgot pants at home 👍
Hahaha, you got me there!! 😂
Truth is you’re right, I had tons of gear with me so it would have taken a lot of time to dig through it all in a more detailed way.
The adventure itself was filled with enjoyment and relaxation plus challenges!
Thanks for watching brother!
Fantastiskt bra serie; innehåll, sceneri, tempo etc etc. Jag uppskattade särskilt att du delade även de stunder tårarna kom, av olika skäl. Om det är tufft för en person i den liga du spelar så känns det ok för mig i gärdsgårdsserien att tycka det är jobbigt. Dessutom visade du att det är på allvar, vilket minskar risken att andra ger sig ut dåligt förberedda.
En fråga: Du gick väldigt långt med tung packning och dessutom var det många vad. Hur kom det sig att du inte tog med stavar, för balans, för avlastning för rygg/core? Kanske säger du det i videon men då missade jag det.
Otroligt fint att läsa detta Ralf, uppskattar det verkligen! känns otroligt skönt att få ett kvitto på att det man vill förmedla gått fram!
stavarna ja, detta är ju ett evigt problem för mig, när jag filmar så kan jag inte ha stavarna också, jag går med kameran i handen alltid förutom när det regnar, även ibland då också. prio är filmningen, balans och så vidare får komma sekundärt. en risk kanske men jag tar det så försiktigt jag kan, än så länge har det inte varit några större problem! :)
Vår Svenska vildmarksambassadör stärker sitt varumärke för varje video, smart, vital och verkligen inspirerande.. Tack..
det är du som ska ha tack som fortfarande år kvar! TACK! :)
May I ask which Fjallraven this is - the blue one with all the batteries in? 5:41
czcams.com/video/-GW4txssS38/video.html :)
The full pack are what the Norwegian Armed Forces use, and what Real started with. Soldiers get three packs, breakfast, lunch and dinner - the latter are interchangeable. Breakfast is musli with either chocolate or berries, and *loaded* with sugar, way too sweet for me. The food quality is awesome, and the bars are top notch. Hell, even the coffee is good! We bring one lunch/dinner pack each as backups, even on short trips. The green packs are about 20% larger than the orange ones - add a roll, and we share an orange one as a quick meal on longer roadtrips.
great input brother! I believed we used something similar in the Swedish armed forces as well! :)
@@TedWeirum Yes, Blå Band mixed with Real and Bridgeford condiments.
Sounds about right! :)
Impressive Ted! What kind of tape are you using for feet?
DUCT TAPE! hahah, noo it's sport tape, easy to cut in small pieces!
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Great video Ted, you say your camera equipment weighted 10kg, what was your total pack weight.
it depended of course, id say at the heaviest it must have been around 30-32 and at lightest 24!
Wow. alot of gear , food and stuff, but it´s a non concern as a strongman as yourself. How many kg was the daily backpack while travel and what are there any recommendations that you can share after the trip that you learned ?
:) it flexed in and out between 24-30 I'd say, it might have been even heavier in the beginning, maybe it was a good thing I didn't checked :)
thanks for sharing.What high cut boots are you wearing?
Hanwag Torne! :)
Greetings from Greece! Did you use waterproof or non waterproof shoes? Would you recommend a leather lined shoe or boot for an adventure like this? 👍
Hello from Sweden! :) I used hiking shoes with a goretex lining, for a longer adventure like this I’d go for a shoe instead of a boot. Watch the previous video, I talk about it there! :)
Veldig bra video. Kjempe gode tips! I videoen så tar du frem solcelle panel og sier du vil gjøre en egen video på dette senere. Kommer den :D ? Vil gjerne vite mer om hva som er best på en lengre tur for å lade mobiltelefon, gps, kamera osv. Powerbank eller solcellepanel?
tack för påminnelsen! jag ska göra en sådan video! 100% ge mig några veckor till! :)
@@TedWeirum perfekt! Kjempe bra jobba med dine turer og dine filmer
Tack så mycket! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
What brand of boots do you wear? Are they north face?
These are Hanwag, have replaced the shoelaces on them though! there's a video on the channel about them!
Well done! For an even greater Swedish hiking experience, have a look at Via Suecia - The Swedish Trail!
Wilco!
Funderar på en Sun Hoodie. Hur står den sig emot vinden?
Jag tycker den är skön att ha även när det blåser, den tar vinden bra men är mest skydd mot solen, perfekt när man vandrar när det är lite småkallt!
What training did you do to prepare for this trip?
check the video before this one, I go through it all there! gym was one part, but the biggest stuff was spending time in nature, I made two smaller adventures as a sort of prep too :)
How did you mount the gopro to your backpack?
I got a small clip where I can connect the Gopro and then clip it on the shoulder strap, watch the adventure and you'll see it many times! :)
Even though you didn’t use them, what boots were you actually wearing
I went with hiking shoes, I just accepted the fact that I was going to get wet and I wanted something that would dry faster, the model was: Hanwag BANKS LOW BUNION GTX
Name of the sleeping pad ? First one
Thermarest! Not exactly sure of the model name but google them and you will find it! :)
Hej Ted!
Grymt bra video som vanligt. Använder idag Kajka 85 men funderar på att införskaffa Keb 72 för sommarbruk där man inte behöver lika mycket kläder prylar men man kanske vandrar under längre tid då det är ljust längre, den är ju ca 1,3 kilo lättare. Anser du att Keb 72 är lika bekväm som Kajkan?
Tjena Pierre,
ja, jag tycker ju det. jag gillar verkligen hur genomtänkt Keb säcken är, jag hade valt denna alla dagar i veckan! :)
@@TedWeirum Tack för svaret :) Det kanske blir en ny rygga till sommaren ;)
Kan vara så att andra ryggor kommer finnas senare… 🥸
Hey! I actually have the same Hanwag shoes. They are re-solable. I haven't used them for hiking yet. I noticed they can get really warm and even make my feet feel hot sometimes, maybe because of the gore-tex. Are they also warm(or hot) in cold weather or are they OK?
They once I use in this video you mean?
@@TedWeirum No you talked about them. The one I have is the Hanwag "Belorado" approach shoes. The original low top. They are well made they just get hot so I mostly wear them in winter.
Aha! Now I understand, like you mentioned it could be due to the goretex!
I haven’t tried them in winter so I can’t say, better with boots in winter no?
@@TedWeirum I am from Germany but I live in Texas. Too hot here in spring/Summer for those Hanwags so I wear them in cold.....or my feet get hot....not really sweating just feels hot. I think similar to the La Sportiva TX4 because they are both leather with Gore Tex.
Tripod info do you have?
I have some, tell me what you need to know! :)
Hi Ted!!
Nice clips!! Really interesting.
Noticed you had both the Kajka and the Keb packs, so wonder if you could share your thoughts on which way to go.
I'm in search of a 60 - 65 liter pack to do 2 / 3 night trips and thought to go for the Kajka 65, but just see that the dimensions are not that different from the Keb 72. Any strong arguments to go for the one or the other?
Both will be good packs and since I'm a little bit a Fjallraven fanboy it will end up between these two bags.
Your thoughts on this are appreciated.
Hey brother! Thank you so much!
Well, like you say both are good packs and you’ll probably end up happy with whatever you choose. I’d go with the Keb 72 any day of the week, its slightly lighter, very well thought through, durable, comfortable, accessible. I just love that bag! :)
@@TedWeirum thanks for sharing your thoughts. Will try to source a Keb 72 to compare them. I’ve just received a Kajka 65. So I can check them out both in more detail.
Awesome, let me know what you think!
@@TedWeirum oh wow 🤩 what a difference..received the Keb today. First impression is that it’s really nice.. sturdy, but not as rough and tough as the Kajka. The only big plus from the Kajka vs the Keb is the front opening. Don’t know yet what I find the better pack. Will do a short test walk with the same load in the Keb tomorrow or in the weekend. I’ll keep you posted. Definitely happy I reached out I and ordered the Keb to try.
EXCITING! :) looking forward to hear what you think!
I remember your nasty chocolate experience on the training trips 😬
and you commented! I appreciate it David! :)
Do you recommend Kajka or Keb for the backpack?
There’s coming a new version of the kajka, I haven’t tried that one yet so for now I’d say keb since it worked for me! :)
@@TedWeirumWhen will the new version come out??
Great question, might be in the spring but I don’t know!
Alltså jävlar vad grejer! 😳 Men klart… Är man ute i 30 (?) dagar så blir det en del.
En sak jag tänkt på nu när jag följt din kanal i över ett år är: hur kommer det sig att din engelska är så bra?
ja det blev en del! :)
Engelskan jadu.. allt är ju för att impa på dig och frugan! :)
nej jag vet inte.. det är väl en kombination av att jag helt enkelt inte varit rädd för att prata engelska, sett mycket filmer och så vidare och gått på den engelskan jag trivs med, dvs lite mer åt det amerikanska hållet och inte så mycket brittisk. :)
Whats the solar panel brand?
xstorm! :)
Bet yer sponsored by Fjall Raven. Pls give me links to yer gear. It's great looking stuff
hahaha, thanks brother! it's all in the channel feel free to look around! you could probably say that im the no. 1 leg model for Fjallraven… ;)
how many packages for the entire trip ?
used packages was 5 :)
What Brand tripod do you use, i like the design of it
Don’t know the name, but @arber does! Check out his channel!
@@TedWeirum thanks will check it out
Should always have torch / headlight
Please elaborate! :)
Please tell me where your beanie hat is from! Thank you
The big Fjällräven logo should give you a hint! The thing about this specific one is that washed it and it shrunk into this.. unique.. shape! ;)
I couldn’t make out the logo!! Thanks for your reply
Ah sorry brother! I get blinded sometimes and think people can read my mind! It looks way different before you wash it just so you know!
I believe it’s called 1960 logo beanie or something along those lines
It saddens me to see that you took down the Gröna Bandet videos. Sad day for the internet.
Only to be back in a new form my brother! ❤️
@@TedWeirum oh, world is again a better place now 🤙🏻🤍 can’t wait brother !!
Appreciate you brother!
Så mycket fjällräven, inte funderat på att bära lättare grejer? Hur mycket hade du på ryggen?
kolla videon innan denna, pratar lite om det där! fick en del frågor kring det. :) det pendlade mellan 24-30kg
@@TedWeirum jag bär typ 10 😅
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I think there something wrong with your Sony camera, the autofocus might be broken or something..
not impossible, it's been through some stuff, I tried to change the settings after this video so we'll see if it's improved in future videos! it was worse than you can see, I tried to save it by cutting and adding other clips over the worst parts. but that didn't get passed you! :)
Links to all the gear would be nice.
i understand, all of it has been reviewed on the channel, you can find links and more info under each separate video, I added names to the Abisko sun hoodie and the high coast hydratic trousers, review will be done shortly!
@Ted Weirum mkay, convenience is overrated anyways.
good
:) thanks brother!
Vilken bredd kör du på din etherlight, funderar om man ska gå på den bredare eller den smalare varianten? :)
jag kör den bredare! jag sover som en kratta så allt jag kan göra för att underlätta där!
@@TedWeirum Ja men perfekt går i de banorna också, har en bred nu men tänkte om denna gav så pass bra stöd, har du provat den nya som har högre R värde?
@@TedWeirum Hur långt ner i temperaturen tycker du den klarar sig innan man märker markkylan? Kluven om jag ska välja denna eller den extreme för att klara hösten i fjällen?
Aldrig fel att köra extreme om vikten inte spelar större roll. Har aldrig hört någon klaga över att liggunderlaget varit för varmt! ;)
Hvilke merke og type er thightsen?
Fjällräven abisko trekking tights
How about water?
Good question Björn! Wasn’t a problem, I found water sources along the way for the entire trip!
Are you somewhat sponsored or get discount on these products - you mentioned REAL food? It's first time I see so much Fjällräven and heavy equipment in a gear video! So is it because of sponsor, discount, personal choice or money?
I’ve been doing this for 5 years now, I love Fjällräven, it’s the brand I started out using and by time the saw what I was about and they wanted to help me, So short answer is personal choice.
I reached out to REAL and asked them if they were interested in helping out and after some talks they decided to help me, of course I’m very glad for that help as it was an essential part of my adventure! :)
I hear all the time that I use heavy gear, I get what people when and yes if you just see the numbers it sure adds up, but for me it’s also quality, environmental, design and comfort, everything I use is probably heavier than most other things but I feel very comfortable using it and I know I can trust my gear if things turn sideways, that’s more important to me! Very good question! :)
Interesting patch on your left arm on your latt hoodie, never seen that on fjallraven gear.
true, this is the polar patch, got it for that adventure, we'll see if ill be able to actually attend the adventure itself too :)
@@TedWeirum i would like one. And yes should buckel up and go.
Ku være mega fedt på dit eget sprog🧐
Ja, men där det inte så många som förstår! :)
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欢迎兄弟！ 一切的快乐都是我的！
Damn you’re built like a tank dude
HA! thanks brother! when I got back I was really weak so that inspired me to get after it!
@@TedWeirum Glad to hear it! Always on the eternal gains journey
Likewise brother! :)
So basically Absisko huh
not sure what you mean here, but probably!
Fjallraven add?
I wouldn’t call it a Fjällräven ad, but I am sponsored by them and they endorse my adventures and projects. Hence the little note about that in the left upper corner of the video.
@@TedWeirum that makes sense then. Awesome having such a great sponsor! Great vids.
@leerolfe5332 thanks brother! I made videos about the brand long before I got sponsored so it’s a genuine affection for the brand and its concepts!
Круто! А как называются ботинки?
Jag är ledsen men jag förstår inte vad du skrivit! :)
@@TedWeirum stövlar ser väldigt coola ut! Säg mig vad dina skor heter.
Nu förstår jag! :) Hanwag Torne heter dom!
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Welcome aboard! :)
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We can see your legs in the thumbnail, thanks for sharing.
My job here is done! ;)
why do you have tampon in your bag?LOL!
Great question! It’s the perfect packed up piece of cotton that can be used when trying to start a fire! :)
@@TedWeirum oh that solves my puzzle, haha. I was searching on google why men use tampon, it gives me a result saying US army used to give tampon to soldiers to use as cotton when they are wounded by gunshot. This only confused me more. Thanks for letting me know the real reason. LOL
No problem brother! It’s great because it’s so tightly packed! :)
Dude, you wear tights 😂
Dude, you watch me wear tights 😂😂
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You kinda sad man.. Why would you even comment on his tights?
@@TedWeirum yeah if i would've known i would've skip the video, next time just give the information don't show or show while not wearing the daam thing.
is not about you is about the people around you. I see mother truckers wearing these in very public parks swinging their tiny bits to everyone and by everyone I mean specifically kids, yes out in the backcountry is fine once you are by yourself or with someone willing to see your shit all the way to the summit by all means. Yet whoever uses these in public go fuck yourself. Like i always say you can do whatever you want as long as you are not bothering anyone else.