IV Blackstar Armor Vs. V Boss Armor - When to build one or the other

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  • @ImChoice
    @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +30

    Something I should have mentioned is that PEN Rednose is the best chest piece to caphras up to c10 if you are rushing fallen god. It's cheaper to caphras compared to dim tree, and the only downside is 200 less HP temporarily while waiting for fallen god.

  • @Naricream
    @Naricream Před 3 lety +65

    I think I'll stick with my roaring magical armor since it gives 20 accuracy

  • @annamuller4730
    @annamuller4730 Před 3 lety +17

    Hmm I think the advice should be
    1) Get Softcap AP 269 (with season gear and adventure logs you should hit 308 DP, which will let you grind on a lot spots)
    2) TET BS Feet (worst armor part, cheapest upgrade for DP)
    3) TET BS Gloves (long time until Fallen God, good silver / DP value)
    4) PEN Boss Armor (from season, maybe even the "free" PEN item)
    5) PEN Boss Helm (should be the next Fallen God item to be released)
    6) Get Obsidian Upgrades for BS Feet / Gloves and start going for C10 on Boss Armor, goal is to unlock the 341 DP for better spots to grind
    And depending on how fast you progress / Fallen God gets released you may just skip Obsidian upgrades and later down the road replace the BS pieces with Boss pieces for more Fallen God fun.

    • @detrau
      @detrau Před 2 lety

      How to get PEN Boss Armor in season? I changed my tuvalas for TET

    • @emoo9999
      @emoo9999 Před 2 lety

      @@detrau check the new Jetina quest that upgrades it to pen

    • @arbiter1022
      @arbiter1022 Před 2 lety +1

      how do you get to 269 AP with full pen tuvala? i was only at 245 when i finished the season and then i started working on my guaranteed pen

    • @fyuira9585
      @fyuira9585 Před 2 lety

      @@arbiter1022 get the pen capotia necklace, do the free pen accessory quests from jetina. Choose to get the ring for more ap. Then earn/enhance for 2 tet tungrad earring, tet basilisk belt. If you have time do 2 more season to get the reward for pen capotia belt and ring. That will make you reach around 263 ap. For the remaining 6 ap do the bartali log book and caphras your weapons to reach 269 ap.

  • @Sang-Je
    @Sang-Je Před rokem

    Just trying to get caught up from a multi year hiatus. This was very helpful for direction.

  • @agi_b
    @agi_b Před 3 lety +1

    I was literally just trying to decide between these two lol great timing. Thanks for the info!

  • @legend240891
    @legend240891 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks Choice for very informative video!
    Perspective of a 4-month-in player focusing only PVE and Life Skills:
    I think you can just use TET Blackstar armor and work on the total caphras you need to one shot for C10 for your PEN Boss then craft Fallen God.
    Then you can sell your TET Blackstar back to Central Market. You lose what? 1.6bil to save you a massive headache going back and forth.
    I think when you start searching for this particular topic, you are probably already making 500mil a day casually (that's me). So you are going to lose only 3 days worth of your effort. And you help someone else on their journey by selling that TET Blackstar back to CM too.
    And you never know when other pieces of Fallen God would come out so why wait?

    • @samhank
      @samhank Před 4 měsíci

      How you make 500 million a day?

  • @MarkUs00
    @MarkUs00 Před 3 lety +1

    you just saved me from another mistake, thank you!

  • @ximoroca2974
    @ximoroca2974 Před 3 lety +1

    Another thing to consider is if ur class has an eva endgame, getting black star cheap while u build up ur eva gear till its effective is also a good deal. u will save ur caphras for ur pen leebur and muskan while being able to do all content and having a decent pvp experience. duo fallen + tet obsidian rest with pen kutum = 361 dp (sheet) while wearing double tet distro, this dp can let you do lots of things while u can focus ur income on building ur ap and accuracy and then switch to eva once u have ur caphras stockpiled up for c9 and ur damage built up for more efficent grinding.

  • @TudorSicaru
    @TudorSicaru Před 3 lety +3

    I really wish they would tweak the upgrade rates on blackstar to make it more viable and similar in price with C10 PEN boss gear. It would make sense since they are equal when it comes to exchanging them to Fallen God..

  • @CommandoMaster
    @CommandoMaster Před 2 lety +1

    Red Nose C10 is cheaper than Dim tree to get to C10. Then exchange it for Fallen god. Good tips.

  • @malvanos9428
    @malvanos9428 Před rokem

    Great video and well explained train or thoughts, ty hermano

  • @apatia77
    @apatia77 Před 2 lety +6

    I think you forget that TET BS whether Obsidian or not is going to be end game and best item for most players that they will get . Not everyone is a no lifer that wants to grind for 1000s of hours to get Fallen God etc and PEN accessories. TET BS set is an excellent choice for PVE minded people and will allow you to grind most spots comfortably including Red Orcs and other Elvia spots.

  • @jasonvongsay2620
    @jasonvongsay2620 Před 2 lety

    This was really helpful! Thanks for making this video

  • @dasovgaming
    @dasovgaming Před 3 lety +2

    As I completely agree with the chest/helmet I'd say TET BS Gloves/Boots combo is a great stepping stone before getting boss armors. Not Obsidian, just normal. For around 23bil (EU) I get 60bil of PvE stats if I'd try to get those levels of monster DR via PEN Boss gear. Form me personally the loss of tax from buying/selling is greatly covered by easy grind which they enable me to do. At this point it also doesn't matter in PvP as I'm one shotted either with TET BS or one PEN boss.

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety

      What do bhegs and urugons cost in EU?

    • @dasovgaming
      @dasovgaming Před 3 lety

      @@ImChoice Bhegs now dropped to about 14 because of Season+ so still not worth buying, they were around 19-20, Urugons 20.3 the cheapest right now. Still 2 set bonus seems to be better as it's a lot of caphras to get additional 5 DR on top of 4/5 monster DR bonus from he items.

    • @bringmetolifeaa
      @bringmetolifeaa Před 3 lety

      @@ImChoice I know you never asked a out MENA server but bhegs dropped to 13b and urugon to 15b here 😂😂😂

  • @chrisjacobs6773
    @chrisjacobs6773 Před rokem

    huge help dude, thanks.

  • @thedamnmoron
    @thedamnmoron Před 3 lety

    Was looking just for this, nice

  • @aatodev
    @aatodev Před 3 lety

    ty choice.. these vids are way better for people that are not beginners anymore

    • @MetinCrafter
      @MetinCrafter Před 3 lety

      I use a Red Nose, i dont really notice the 200 HP. Atleast PvE wise, in PvP it might be different.

  • @sa1lor_jarry139
    @sa1lor_jarry139 Před 2 lety +2

    I always thought fallen god should require both variants of boss (red nose + dim tree) or Pen BS. Just C10 on one just seems to simple for the "ultimate armor"

    • @sokolshala485
      @sokolshala485 Před 2 lety

      Main thing was ment to be turos grind tbh, now easy to buy

  • @gamefuler
    @gamefuler Před 3 lety +1

    *It's also a great place holder for PvE/PvP gear if youre working on other upgrades like manos accessories/bartering upgrades. I sold all my gear to become a lifeskiller and at the time I bought full tet manos accessories/pen clothes+tools and blackstar armors. The armors allowed me to grind orcs at 331 DP when I had full agris and saved me about 20-30 bil in total at the time. Maybe in the future my 10 bil locked in 2 Obsidian Specter's Energies will be useful \o/

  • @SimplyNexy
    @SimplyNexy Před 3 lety +2

    You can always get the TET Obsidian BS and then later get or make a PEN Rednose to C10, and once that Rednose turns into a Deadgod you can sell yous BS or keep it for alt. Also consider the extra money those stats will unlock you by getting them cheaper and earlier, specially considering that for most classes you will want two "PEN" armors to unlock orcs, TET BS unlocks that way earlier due to the lower cost. So with active grind on orcs, by the time you would reach enough dr to do that, it's expected that you will be making more than the market tax of selling back the TET BS for when you need to get deadgod

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety

      You can't get back the obsidian upgrade and you'll lose about 15% tax on the blackstar sale, if you use my math for the upgrade and the tax you're losing 6.5b for a temporary item. I think it's better off investing that 6.5b and just getting a rednose/bhegs/tree etc instead.

  • @Seriksy
    @Seriksy Před 3 lety +4

    How did you get to 5b for the Obsidian Gear piece? When I put together all the mats, I got a bit over 3b. The raw mats that drops (Seed, 100 of each times 3) equals to about 1,9B. The concentrated boss aura adds another 1,1b roughly, then it's the rest. Did I miss something? Because a bit over 3 compared to 5 is quite a difference.
    On another note. We think the helm piece is the next fallen god, so what do you think about 2 set boss gear (chest and helm) then 2 set BS gear (boots and gloves) ?

    • @myxlepykt
      @myxlepykt Před 3 lety

      I think the difference is from wasted time farming the mats, since you can't just buy them, especially if you're mainly a lifeskiller it's pretty painful

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      Myxlepxkt is right, it's 5b in costs plus opportunity cost. Farming imps for example is a lot less efficient than farming sycraia for money, or especially orcs

    • @Seriksy
      @Seriksy Před 3 lety

      @@ImChoice Makes sense, thanks!

    • @ximoroca2974
      @ximoroca2974 Před 3 lety

      @@ImChoice well if ur debating about this stuff u probably cant do orcs anyways. Fogans, and Bandits are not that far away money wise from sycraia, if not on par. so not that much of an opportubity cost loss . 5b just suits ur argument, when its cost is really more like 3,5-4b

  • @xerenityapexlegends3940

    Very concise thank you

  • @AntiwarObserver
    @AntiwarObserver Před 2 lety

    I have no plan to get fallen god for all my characters, thats just not realistic in my case so maybe for my main? for most of my Characters blackstar armor is more than enough especially PVE.
    Your point is valid for those who want Fallen god for a particular character. You can't really say one is better than the other but more about what people want to do with that character

    • @smartkking4984
      @smartkking4984 Před 2 lety

      Same im a pve player not interested pf fallen god armor unless i join siege or node war

  • @eugenemarcelo1522
    @eugenemarcelo1522 Před 3 lety

    Also have the same mentality when deciding on BS and Boss Gears. When they annouced the falled god armor aaaand the new way to hit PEN from seasonal characters, i will be investing a lot to get that PEN boss armors from seasons. This will give me PEN bhegs, PEN giath, and PEN Kutum, which i need to complete all PEN. After fallen god helment, then all my gears will stop at C10 then invest next to PEN accessories.

  • @sjroxiii4778
    @sjroxiii4778 Před 3 lety

    actually u can chose BS TET , just 2 item and slowly change it later when needed. U can buy Heve C9, Boot/Hand TET BS and Dim armor, work kinda well too. But the dmg reduce from monster doesn't actually big if u have enough money for 2-3 PEn armor so depend on your grinding /money/hr, chose wisely

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      The issue is changing it later is so costly cause that obsidian upgrade you can't get back. So you spent all that time/money for nothing if you swap armors anyways. I think you're better off just going boss from the start

  • @WeebHub
    @WeebHub Před 2 lety

    i'm a gambler at heart

  • @windmoh
    @windmoh Před rokem

    I already tapped pen blackstar should i sell it and use the rednose armor from the jetaina to get the fallen god

  • @pinkmaster123
    @pinkmaster123 Před 3 lety +1

    What ive done is to enchance myself a full set of Tet bs because its easier than getting a pen boss gear. Once I have all tet pieces, Im tapping until I get Pen boss, put c2 on it than sell my tet bs. That way I get pen stat lot easier and still get the upgradability of boss gear later. Im now full pen boss gear c4 :P

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      That is not a bad idea but you do lose the tax when you sell your tet blackstar gear. Also if you decided to go obsidian you can't get that upgrade back or any value extracted out of it and that's pretty expensive for a temporary piece of gear

    • @strips2939
      @strips2939 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ImChoice it ain't considering that the only people who go for tet blackstar are people who can't farm properly on elvia spots without them. A lot of ppl can grind elvia efficiently only because of blackstar armor pieces. As long as it can make you earn 400m instead of 200-250/h, the money u lose on taxes is irrelevant.

  • @9trgaming533
    @9trgaming533 Před rokem

    at this point in eu.
    It's better to sell the caphras and buy the fallen god.
    It's cheaper that way if you calculate the price of the boss armor as well.
    For anyone who sees this in 2023

  • @semperzeroo8726
    @semperzeroo8726 Před 2 lety

    what do you mean a click for pen is 1.5bil? by buying costumes off the market you'd get like 300crons per 500mil silver.. which would mean 5+ bil for one click since you need 3.6k

  • @jean-sebastienpigeon3307

    They might change the way fallen god is made when we get the helm with the calpheon elvia region (if they come together of course). It's best to keep all the obsidian mats until we see what they end up doing imo.

    • @backpacks6486
      @backpacks6486 Před 3 lety

      Fallen god helm is coming with the snow region which is delayed for the class reworks

  • @BlackLyondreamworks
    @BlackLyondreamworks Před 3 lety +1

    324 kutum, God level....

  • @cokozab
    @cokozab Před 3 lety

    Oh, you answered my question since I only lvl and life skill. I did want to ask if I wanted to upgrade tet gear from the season that becomes blackstar to pen, its like 2% right? Is that normal because if that is why people struggle with upgrading, I'm gonna have to nope out for myself. Thanks.

  • @DaGoonR
    @DaGoonR Před 2 lety

    Ty new sub

  • @gionataex2697
    @gionataex2697 Před 3 lety

    I think you should also mention that you also need to grind for Flame of Despair or Embers of Despair to upgrade from C10 Boss gear to Fallen God Armor.
    Or is it server based? Cause in SEA, Flame of Despair is always sold out and thousands of advance orders so its hard to get one unless you grind and let your RNG decide for your future :D
    Overall great video hope to see more and god bless!

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      Pen blackstar also requires a flame to upgrade it to fallen god

    • @gionataex2697
      @gionataex2697 Před 3 lety

      @@ImChoice oh ahah yeah I forgot that one I was so focused about the obsidian upgrade. Thanks! 😁😁😁

  • @freedomgaming9987
    @freedomgaming9987 Před 2 lety

    Brah Hold my Reblah, Blackstar is for making PEN accessory stacks. Hehe

  • @ShinobiXXXBDO
    @ShinobiXXXBDO Před 2 lety

    Most ppl will most likely just Buy the other Fallen Gods, i imagine there a serveral people who already have the pieces and extra flames lined up, and flood the market initially

  • @L4ri11
    @L4ri11 Před 2 lety

    Why not have both. I'm a obsidian user and never regretted getting it

  • @jpteknoman
    @jpteknoman Před 2 lety

    i was lucky enough to make a tet blackstar armor with 2 tries when it was first introduced. i sold it and bought a pen dim tree with the money. then i made the dim tree c10 by just farming manshaum for the potion piece (that i still don't have)

  • @RM-cf2xq
    @RM-cf2xq Před 2 lety

    the dim tree clearly said caphras lvl 6 instead of 20. but okay.

  • @glensR33
    @glensR33 Před 3 lety

    what about the red nose compared to dim tree

  • @take2508
    @take2508 Před 2 lety

    CatJam Naru gang CatJam

  • @noxoneatxall1208
    @noxoneatxall1208 Před 2 lety

    I play on console and going for a tet bs axe killed the game for me. I went from a 150fs to a 240fs going for tet. I never got it and I was done with bs after that now I'm sitting on a 244 stack and not to sure what to do with it. Recently came back to the game after blowing up all of my gear and I just finished the season and sitting at 257ap 307 dp.

  • @EltonLeonidas
    @EltonLeonidas Před 2 lety +1

    Or just use BS until you have the ressources for Fallen god, then sell the BS armor, and buy a PEN boss armor and caphras it. You can sell the BS gear with a fewhundred mill loss, but you can use the better stats of the BS, then you can still upgrade for cheap.

  • @shadowreaper5477
    @shadowreaper5477 Před 2 lety

    guys just use the subtitles and have some fun

  • @mmoplayah2874
    @mmoplayah2874 Před 3 lety

    I am playing succession Hash mostly. I have double TET BS weapon, should i sell awakening and go for Tri C19 dande or it worth keeping the TET BS. Someone said that the monster damage on BS awakening can be compensated with perfume but the accuracy u get on c19 dande is hard to get.
    Currently 277/279/328, so if i sell it i am planning to push my caphras on my pen Dim tree for fallen god or go with TET Disto.
    I would like your inputs in this. Thank you!

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      If you only plan to play succession and you want to PVP the tri Dande is great... However you will notice a loss in PVE damage since yes the monster damage does transfer completely to your succession. Ultimately I think you should probably keep the black Star if you ever want to tag a class in the future. you might find it unfortunate to be limited to only succession classes with a tri dande

  • @Dragonuak47THC
    @Dragonuak47THC Před 2 lety

    Hellow mate, can u explain what tome is that ?

  • @NiceToesBro
    @NiceToesBro Před 3 lety

    look mom im on tv

  • @ximoroca2974
    @ximoroca2974 Před 3 lety

    All this rambling doesnt account for oportunity cost of grinding higher end zones earlier with blackstar. yes chest is a nono since we already have fallen god, helm id also go boss since that piece is nearer (still dont know when and its probably delayed with the class revamps) but the rest is ok since they are pretty far away, considering the price and that you can actually sell it later whenever the fallengod counterparts come out, In the meanwhile you make more money grinding higher zones for a cheaper entry fee. They will probably give out more pen boss gear for a later switch whith how the game seems to be evolving.... maybe we even get more blackstar upgrades in calpheon elvia... who knows.

  • @kuhutta163
    @kuhutta163 Před 2 lety

    Honestly what a lot of people i know did is get bs obsidian it then when they have the caphris to get fallen god they buy a rednose and trade it

  • @jesselee2792
    @jesselee2792 Před 3 lety

    If they patch bs gear to be able to change to fallen god gear at tet obsidian it should have been fine or give pen obsidian stats

  • @serlar4
    @serlar4 Před 2 lety

    I think you misjudged how much I'm willing to grind blackstar is way better for me 46b is ez af to make and all 4 peices one obsidian and pen kutum puts you at 361 which opens almost every spot and then you just grind for the bs smacks for fg and lebreska easily buying 1-2 costumes a day lax grinding on work days. ( Also I see no point at all to "obsidianing" the armors that can be traded in for fg set as that's literally just money lost when you are going to just smack for pen anyways

  • @GordoGamer01
    @GordoGamer01 Před 3 lety

    Are we getting fallen god's weapons too? If thats the case, isn't selling a PEN bs weapon a good move? I'm a console player, a pen kzarka costs 6bil and caphras are stuck at 1,5mil and a pen bs Max bid is at 82,5bil

    • @MetinCrafter
      @MetinCrafter Před 3 lety +3

      Fallen God Weapons need C20 or PEN BS, why sell the Blackstar?
      Not to mention we dont know when it releases, dont pull a "im selling my tet neck because in 3 seasons we‘ll also get it" with Fallen God Weapons that could be 2 Years away.

    • @KirigayaKazuto-dc8uy
      @KirigayaKazuto-dc8uy Před 3 lety

      @@MetinCrafter exactly my dude

  • @sirvere4840
    @sirvere4840 Před 3 lety

    i thought obsidian upgrades only went up to tet, how do we get a pen obsidian? same method or do you have to tap an upgraded tet and it will maintain the upgrade to pen?

    • @sirvere4840
      @sirvere4840 Před 3 lety

      @Vercusgames i know enhancing works, thats not what im asking. i already have a tet obsidian armor, according to patch notes you cant have pen obsidian armor, so how do i get it? do i have to tap my tet obsidian to pen for it to stay with the upgrade or?

    • @MetinCrafter
      @MetinCrafter Před 3 lety +1

      @@sirvere4840 Well it doesnt give you any Bonus at PEN, but if you have the upgrade on it, it will say Obsidian PEN Blackstar.

    • @sirvere4840
      @sirvere4840 Před 3 lety

      @@MetinCrafter thank you for an actual answer :)

  • @SunnyDaking_
    @SunnyDaking_ Před 3 lety

    So pretty much screw blackstar armor and full send fallen god armor

  • @Minessotod
    @Minessotod Před 3 lety

    the pen dim price is astonishing high in SEA 25b

    • @XeturO
      @XeturO Před 3 lety

      what about rednose ? you need less caphras with rednose anyway

    • @Minessotod
      @Minessotod Před 3 lety

      @@XeturO similar price, price difference of 1b, red nose more expensive in SEA

  • @rox9415
    @rox9415 Před 2 lety

    Hi, anyone know what is that medal in the tome slot 0:01

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 2 lety

      It is a pen undying Crow insignia from the pit of the undying

  • @coryleslie8371
    @coryleslie8371 Před 2 lety

    The correct answer is none
    Just use roaring magic armour and a black abysal go to Bashim and make an easy 160m hr until you can buy PEN

    • @Vorkus01
      @Vorkus01 Před 2 lety +1

      OK but pen what ? Boss armor or bs ?
      Kekw

  • @foxyafoxya
    @foxyafoxya Před 2 lety

    Just sell bs later and buy a boss gear?

  • @dillthedrill
    @dillthedrill Před 2 lety

    Any boss gear can turn to god gear? Or is it specific ones?

    • @richo1333
      @richo1333 Před 2 lety

      right now its only chest piece and has to be either PEN blackstar chest, or PEN C10 red nose/dim tree. Red nose chest also takes less caphras to reach C10 than dim tree so like 90% of Fallen God chests came from PEN C10 red nose

  • @CyberGun1992
    @CyberGun1992 Před 3 lety

    Do you think we will get fallen god weapons as well?

    • @ImChoice
      @ImChoice  Před 3 lety +1

      I think that will eventually happen but not anytime soon

  • @TwoMinds2
    @TwoMinds2 Před 3 lety +1

    but blackstar looks cool

    • @TheLeafSan
      @TheLeafSan Před 3 lety +3

      Gang gang

    • @ykfazzz
      @ykfazzz Před 2 lety

      Actually bought a tri bs shoes since it looked cool to me, but seeing how everyone is saying its bad idk man, i still wanna keep it tho

  • @Johnny-vb7oe
    @Johnny-vb7oe Před 2 lety

    Black star lokking better

  • @fanulifanulis7798
    @fanulifanulis7798 Před 2 lety

    to put it simple, you are playing this game for only pve which does not even make sense since this game is all about pvp you go for blackstar armors, since you are a pleb it doesnt matter that you wasted 15b x3 (total 45b) or you are a smart guy who plays pvp too.... you go for pen boss armors and destroy the plebs on the spots and take the spot easy :D

    • @arbiter1022
      @arbiter1022 Před 2 lety

      can you tell me how to get from level 0 in naru gear to level 63-64 with full fallen god gear and weapons without doing PVE activities? if you cant then your whole statement and standpoint on the game is completely incorrect. sure some of the endgame content is PVP focused but you get that stuff by doing PVE stuff... this game is literally EVE online but with no space travel.

  • @ShinobiXXXBDO
    @ShinobiXXXBDO Před 2 lety

    This guy thinks there is PEN Obsidian, so simple... Its TET Obsidian or just PEN, there is no PEN Obsidian BS

  • @moriarty8197
    @moriarty8197 Před 2 lety

    Somebody spitting facts! I said it since the armor pieces released, Blackstar IV is just Tuvala Gear for out of season characters. And you are trapped on it!! Since they released the Obisidian Piece the also encluded a 5b Money sink.
    Dont buy that shit. Ever.

  • @TheAsmodianleader
    @TheAsmodianleader Před 3 lety +1

    I am calling it right now!: When Fallen god will come they will implement a way for Blackstar armor to transform it into Fallen god. CALLING IT OUT NOW

    • @MetinCrafter
      @MetinCrafter Před 3 lety +1

      Its already out? You need a Pen Blackstar armor to get Fallen God. What are you calling here?

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