The Best Way To Kill The Warden In Minecraft
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- In 1.19 the warden became the most powerful mob in Minecraft. That doesn't mean we can't figure out how to be more powerful.
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I left out cactus pit as an option but I'm pretty sure unless you were constantly angering the warden it would also decide to abandon ship. You could have the warden standing on some cactus while you shoot it, though. A huge amount of potions in dispensers may also work, but the massive set up for something like that definitely disqualifies it from being a "best" way to kill the warden.
can you box the warden with a full potion setup? is the warden immune to negative potions?
Do wardens go up water elevators? Might be a consistent way to drop them from 255 blocks onto spikes.
Captain, what about entity cramming with boats?
@@captaindvirus8009 It would have a massive setup and boats despawn so they would need replacing.
@@frankie123456ization, if we push warden with pistons in 1x1 space with 24 boats being there it wouldn’t be that big + boats ( especially on Java ) are quite cheap
Also for speeding up the process we can make one entity cramming thing on his legs, than on his second block of height push a block and in the block with his head make another entity cramming
When you said "Trying to kill the Warden as quickly as possible" made me realize that its inevitable that there will be a warden% speedrun
He's actually already done exactly that
yeah its already a category, wr is 1 min 33 seconds
But you need a line of diamond blocks to do the bow method
@@TheOGCreeper Is there an RSG subcategory? That's what I'd be most interested in
@@Tkdriverx yeah there is, no runs yet though. the strat is pretty simple, get a diamond hoe and 2 god apples from chests, and you can just hide in a hole and kill it
I’ve mainly just kept using tons of water. I found that Wardens can’t swim down in water. They float like freaking balloons. I just keep putting ceilings into the halls of the Ancient Cities and placing water over it so I can at any point just break a few blocks above me and watch the thing just slowly *Ascend* in front of me while I just reblock the ceiling and move on. Plus, if you wanted to kill the Warden for any reason, just put a magma block under you, break the ceiling blocks, and just keep punching him. All you need is to be at least 3-4 blocks under him and he’ll be unable to even reach you while you can just keep bopping him in the legs. I have become Aquatic Mole Man.
I wish I could pin comments for my use later
@@pintachu9162 screenshot
Genius
I only rely on iron Golem, 3-4 stack iron ingots. I summoned 3 iron Golems then when the Warden attacked one of the Iron Golems, I keep healing the Iron Golem who was fighting with Warden. I heal a bit away because the Warden will instantly change his target and attack me to death.
I think this is my new favourite approach to the warden. Genius
You left out the most powerful killing method, entity cramming.
Setup your pit to push the warden into a 1 by 1 hole, with 24 minecarts waiting at the bottom.
Warden can’t fit in a one by one hole, also the same reason you can’t entity cram the wither
@@blueskyhigh1426 The Warden's hitbox is 0.9 blocks wide, so it should be able to fit into a one-block hole.
@@blueskyhigh1426 factually wrong, get splanked
@@blueskyhigh1426 Can't entity cram the wither because it breaks blocks
@@DMZ_5 Tango Tek has a wither killing farm using entity cramming by trapping the withers in the bedrock roof of the nether in a way they won't suffocate, and spawning enough withers to entity cram them all. He did this in survival too, on Hermitcraft.
Sparklez: * Uses the "Pro VS Noob" format in the thumbnail *
Me: "No, Jardon! They got to you!" *Happily watches the video anyway *
Lol
I think the warden going away during suffocation might be because Sparklez went back into creative mode. The warden lost his target, and with no more aggro, he went away since he wasn't "needed" anymore according to the game.
Maybe occasionally run in give a hit and go back the 15 blocks mark
Was looking for a comment like this, obviously despawned lmao
Wouldn’t a name tag completely prevent it from leaving?
TNT trap… I’ve dropped a tnt block on the spawner and killed it once gonna try and pressure plate triggered TNT next
You could also dig a hole and fill it with powdered snow and freeze it to death, it's slow but it still works and it completely safe.
You could also just spawn a bunch of snow golems to distract it while you shoot at it
dig a 16 block deep hole in a wall at the edge of a city and put an iron golem on a lead just outside the hole. as long as you hit the warden once he will ignore the iron golem and continue to pathfind towards you. as long as you stay 15 blocks from the warden in the 2 block high hole the warden wont be able to hurt you. but the iron golem outside will attack the warden without taking any damage. all you do is wait
Smite does more damage to the warden. Even though it is classified as a undead mob harming potions still hurt him. It kinda makes sense that he is a undead mob. You can see bones and souls on him.
I googled it and the wiki says its no longer considered undead
Fake news
It's not undead
@@dannymartial7997 yh look at HawkFPV's comment.
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing same thing as the other comment i made.
The suffocation one is probably the most practical for explorers imo. Since only one warden can spawn at a time, if you can just hold the warden in one place for as long as possible, then you can feel free to explore the immediate area without worrying about being killed.
More than one warden is possible.
@@jackofclubs6229 but don't iron golems sink
I’ve mainly just kept using tons of water. I found that Wardens are like golems in that they can’t swim down in water. They float like freaking balloons. I just keep putting ceilings into the halls of the Ancient Cities and placing water over it so I can at any point just break a few blocks above me and watch the thing just slowly *Ascend* in front of me while I just reblock the ceiling and move on. Plus, if you wanted to kill the Warden for any reason, just put a magma block under you, break the ceiling blocks, and just keep punching him. All you need is to be at least 3-4 blocks under him and he’ll be unable to even reach you while you can just keep bopping him in the legs. I have become Aquatic Mole Man.
@@Alexk0200 Maybe the Warden is unique then. All I know is that I originally tested this by making a straight-up pool down there and lured some into it from a sign doorway at the bottom. They just floated right up and I sat there punching them for a while until they died.
I hate to break it to you, but more than one warden can spawn
Jardon: The best way to kill the Warden
Mojang devs: *Pulls on their hair*
mojang devs: "We decided that the Warden no longer takes fall damage from spikes."
The warden just getting bored and deciding "uh bye" was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. I wonder if u hit him with ur sword occasionally if that would keep agro enough for him to stick around. Like, 1 slap then back away incase he can slap back, regen and repeat. I would assume that would work.
My gf and I have been exploring the ancient cities, and she used the bubble elevator method for quick escapes. We have a couple of them dotted around so we can always get back to one if we trigger a warden. We get up just high enough to be out of blast range, then wail on him with powered bows :)
“Deep dark dimension”
Ah, yes the Deep dark dimension.
just me hoping the portal eventually goes somewhere
@@CaptainSparklez I hope so too
Dormammu I've come to bargain
😂😂 @@buildawall5803
I love that the warden gets bored of slowly dying and decides to just leave
On Bedrock the Warden can kill the Wither solo without dying. 💀
But it can not damage the dragon... so sad
It can also do it in Java.
When initially released in the snapshots, it could kill 4 or 5 withers in succession, but got killed 2 v 1 because it kept changing targets.
@@suzannestrickland1586 it can sonic boom go brrrr
@@az1202
I set it up on bedrock and let it loose... I broke the crystals and got them targeting it... no damage. Not even with the sonic boom
@@suzannestrickland1586 prob not aggroed
8:54 warden really just said "screw this I'm outta here"
The warden leaving during suffocation was hilarious
I love that the warden can just say "Nah I'm not feeling it today" and just leave. Though technically speaking you 'might' be able to combine the bow and piston strategy to speed up the process.
This might sound a little strange but I beat the Warden with no armor and only sand. Died multiple times but I was able to stall and kill 3 Wardens long enough for my friends to clear the sensors, spawners, and catalysts. We practically took over the ancient city using sand... Yeah, weird.
Can we just get a video about strategies to sneak around ancient cities safely, what to do if you accidentally summon the warden and how to avoid it getting aggro on you? What to do when it does? I'm not interested in killing it, I think it'll be way more fun to sneak around. Like a heist. But all the CZcams videos I've found while trying to figure this out are about killing the thing.
Tbh I think that trap you set to shoot at it works as a last resort so that's nice!
Sawyer Paul had an interesting comment where they said they go around using water they place in ceilings(?) where if they're running away they can break a few ceiling blocks, and since wardens "float like freaking balloons" in water according to them lol, they can just move on. Water seems like a decent defense I guess.
Also I agree, that trapdoor trap seems like a good way to stop the warden from advancing on you. Even if you don't wanna bother hanging around to shoot it to death with a load of arrows, you can at least maybe make your escape while it's stuck in the trapdoor trap lol :D
@@richardpike8748 I saw that! It's cool! It just feels like too much prep? I can't really wrap my head around how it works. Again, a video or something would be great.
Just stay croutched and pillar up with wool. The sonic boom has a limited range so if you go far enough it leaves, and wool doesn’t activate the skulk
Pillaring seems to be the reliable thing. The warden is built to kill you if you run and hide
@@lomiification interesting. I was under the impression that it would sonic boom before there was a chance to get high enough.
Terraria: Gives you a bone key a unique cosmetic item for defeating it's thing you werent supposed to
Mojang: Literally zero fun allowed literally a basic item found in the area you obtain it.
In my own playing around in creative, I learned the warden fits in a water elevator, I've also seen another youtuber come up with a drowning system to kill the warden using a note block to draw it in, a water elevator to take it up, and then have it move over and drown with a hopper to collect the catalyst block. There are a few things people could do if they want to collect a currently not very useful block
A CZcamsr? Il mango is up there on being *the* CZcams tech inventor
@@lomiification And?
Arrow rail guns would be perfect to quickly destroy wardens.
Captainsparklez: "Oh, I guess he got bored and decided to leave" Pure gold.
Very relatable, If I was being suffocated constantly, I would, too, get very bored
Who else came here after losing a maxed bow and netherite armor 😞
Mojang: The Warden will be the hardest mob in the game! You'll have to hide from it instead of fighting it!
Players: Hole + bow :]
That's because they made it the most annoying mob in the game, not the hardest.
Just not worth fighting, except for the street cred.
Simply using turtle master potions and good food makes it a breeze, and you can use strength potions on top of it to be even easier.
The resistance effect helps with all warden attacks and using an axe crit or sword crit repeatedly can take him out. I play on bedrock so I’m used to killing the wither which has 600 health. Golden apples and enchanted golden apples are very helpful
i was gonna say he didn't use strength or regen or golden apples or anything during the head-on fight and i feel like with the addition of those things he'd probably stand a chance
If you play on bedrock it's suggested to use a sword, because unlike in Java, swords do more damages.
@@Blueninja-xt4ci Swords don’t do more damage but there is no cooldown after each hit so you can spam it
@@huntermc07 yes in bedrock swords deal 1 more damage
@@zeebo30 Golden apples and strength are A LOT stronger in bedrock also you can spam
This is a fantastic video, because it gave me an idea. For the second trap with the trap doors, place some pressure plates on the floor in the pit for multiple dispensers to shoot arrows at it, all while you play hit and run tactics with it. That way you continue damaging it as it triggers the traps and keeps it’s attention hitting it then getting to a safe distance to heal.
As long as the Warden hits them directly, a handful of pillagers make surprisingly quick work of him, though they won't aggro on him if he uses the sonic blast. Of course, I had to test this in creative mode.
If spiders are allowed to climb walls indefinitely, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the 3 block tall warden to be able to climb a 2 block tall wall
shhh the devs might hotfix that to be a thing. Then we'd all need 3 deep pits to trap it lol
Spiders are known for STICKING to WALLS. Now take an elephant, and have it climb something comparable to it in size. Good luck
@@Plusle843 not even a remotely close comparison. It’s more like asking a person with extra long arms to climb on top of an average sedan car. A completely reasonable ask.
@@chapystick_ Except that look at arms, and then look at BODY. It's asking an OVERWEIGHT person lift himself over an edge. Let's also remember that Warden is BLIND. COMPLETELY. DO you know many blind people that climb edges? Even waist high?
@@Plusle843 yet the size of its arms are bigger than its body combined. I still don’t think a blind gorilla who never skips arm day would have trouble crawling onto a wall at armpit height
The dripstone method made me remember the golden lasso from that one mod and how great it would be to have it a real item in the game
Another option: Iron golems.
About half as tough as a Warden, friendly, hit like trucks and mass producible with iron blocks and pumpkins being all you need, they'll draw all the aggro away from you, as well as swarm whatever warden(s) you're fighting, just gotta make sure you build more golems than the amount of wardens you're fighting, they're not MUCH weaker than Wardens, but they ARE still weaker, so you'll need the numbers.
It's also a good use for the iron and pumpkins, since if you already have better gear and have access to food, you can basically just make a small army at little to no cost to you and watch the brawl play out, plus the golems can be healed too with ingots. And while you won't get the XP, you WILL get the drops, I think you could probably even get some of the iron you spent making the golems back on their deaths, which isn't much, but it works so you can make even more as long as you have enough pumpkin heads.
Fishing rod - Found out by Grian - attatch the rod to the warden guy, tower upwards with wool most likely, with rod in off hand. Go as high as possible, you may even have to mine upwards (carefully). Then tug on that rod and mister warden will go flying and take lots of fall damage. Works better when multiple people have rods on the warden (4+) and pull him up at the same time.
A good way to kill the Warden, Get it in the hole shown in this video, have a Target block with a bunch of pre-shot arrows and the activating it will do some decent damage(at least more than 40 hearts depending on how you shot the arrows
*OP strategy that works for both the Warden and the Wither...*
Set up a 2-block-deep hole surrounded by obsidian and with an obsidian ceiling that has a 1-block high spacing above the hole, then enter the hole after the boss is summoned. *This allows you to use End Crystals to deal a lot of damage.*
Can't wait for Mojang to just add massive healing to the Warden to just make people stop trying to kill it.
I actually hope they do this AND make him completely immune to fall damage. Including dripstone
They should add a Curse onto the Player after they manage to kill the Warden, like when you pick up a Pillager's Banner. Something to actively punish them for killing it.
@@prometheanrebel3838 the lack of a reward for killing the warden, and the "costs" related to killing him, are already punishment enough. Although ngl, I like the idea of a curse or effect as an additional punishment.
@@adrian225 I had this string of ideas when the Warden was the first buzz.
-Firstly, I want to address how the Devs say that making a tower wouldn't save you. I propose that the Warden generates Sculk under it's feet as it walks anywhere that's not in the Deep Dark. The Warden could also make a "Sculk Wall" up a cliff that only it can climb, if it knows you escaped upwards.
-Secondly, I want to address any possible weaknesses. The first obvious one I think, should be Sunlight, but instead of damaging the Warden, it afflicts it with Weakness. Also, I think that Water should also be a weakness against the Warden, but only temporarily. Unlike Endermen, the Warden will be afflicted with Slow and Weakness, but if its in the water for too long, it'll infest it, turning it into a new type of water; Deep Murk.
-Deep Murk will be a water type found exclusively in the Deep Dark and its Cities. This thick water moves at about 1.5 times the speed of lava, and appears pitch-black on the surface, and causes Darkness to the Player if they're standing in it.
-The waters of the Deep Dark should not be barren, however, as I imagine the Deep Murk is actually very bright and glow under the void-like surface, teeming with Sculk-infested plant and marine-life.
Every 5 sec warden recover 3 hp in normal and 6 in hardcore
I saw this on the minecraft subreddit and found that spawning an iron golem and healing it with iron ingots is an effective way of killing the warden. Although expensive, it gets the job done.
Ah the government solution. Just keep throwing money at a defense contractor.
enchants and potions definitely need to be introduced into this but it is true with the bow thing. also maybe we can do something with ice and the spikes as well to add to the arrow hole method? sorry if I seem like I'm thinking to hard about it I'm getting in a power gaming mind set.
Either we need new weapons to take out mobs like the warden exclusively, or we need an enchantment, sneaking around the deep dark feels terrifying if you don't have stacks of wool to spend
@@RaiuAdami But sneaking around and not having weapons to deal with him is the whole point.
@@TheAwes0meo It is yes, but there needs to be an endgame somewhere where you can overcome the warden. First you're forced to sneak, then you can fight
@@RaiuAdami no,
Ruins the warden
@@RaiuAdami they don't get the fact that your more interested in taking him out in the end game even faster in the mentioned method. but honestly by end game you should have more than enough by then heck I only saved up in the begining from 3 or 4 sheep and had allot. pluss there are allot more ways to make emeralds like introducing a Fletcher for sticks and such. depending on there emerald trade farmers can be profitable but honestly Zombify them for max profit if you can maybe even get village hero bonus.
Thanks for this, makes it less anxious
Minecraft Players: "TRYING TO SNEAK PAST THE WARDEN TO GET LOOT"
Peaceful Mode: Am I A Joke To You?????
Weird without facecam, but it’s still a good video! :D
Love this!! Thanks, i watch all your videos
I love all the attempts you did that is a nice style
Wassup sparklez...havent been back since the aquatic update and oh man lots of stuff to learn again. You the man
Me digging a hole to trap the Warden:
The Warden behind me: That's a nice hole you got there.
You can actually do the drop method with a water elevator trap, another option to try though might be an anvil recycling trap… but there is the chance they break
next update: warden can jump 3 blocks, is immune to arrows, crawls when a block appears ontop of them, breaks the dripstones it falls on...
"He got bored from suffocating and just left."
That's a line that was said.
In thinking of a way to transport the Warden up 255 blocks with a bubble column, it occured to me that you might force it to despawn when it gets 128 blocks away, so that might be another way to get rid of it.
Warden: "If I don't suffocate in 15 minutes I'm legally allowed to leave."
This is very amazing I love watching Jordan and he is smart
What are the chances that the arrow method is gonna be gone because they changed the warden AI to always dig down when they can't deal any dmg to the player but the player keeps dmging the warden. What if the warden can actually dig down and dig back up to unstuck itself...
Thank you for the tutorial
I learned a lot! Thanks!
8:55 Warden: "You know what, fork this short I'm out, peace spaklez"
I like how mojang said that the warden isn't supposed to be a boss fight, it's supposed to be a punishment and yet everyone is treating it as a boss fight. I find using a power V bow to be effective and using an elytra to keep my distance. Now I'm here looking for ideas on how to farm the warden because the catalyst drops a ton of xp when mined
I don't consider entities without health bars as bosses, which is why Warden and Elder Guardian aren't bosses in my book. If Warden is a protector of the ancient city and it's secrets (a protector of the portal?), and is already a walking, shooting blind menace, imagine of the possibilities of an actual boss from another dimension. Once they release a new dimension, and if it will have a boss, it could very much rival bedrock wither (yes there's many instances of ordinary warden defeating wither, but only because wither entirely gets rid of it's aerial attack advantage, and proceeds to lower all the way to Warden's level, and that is the only reason warden emerges victorious)
@@Eh......... I feel like a blaze would have a better chance of beating a warden than the wither would because blazes tend to be better at maintaining that height advantage while shooting from a distance (until they go in for a melee attack which I didn't know blazes could do).
I agree about wardens and elder guardians not being bosses. Elder guardians have never felt like a boss to me, especially because I've never died to them (they can't do that much damage other than thorns damage because I'm always geared up before taking on an ocean monument). Wardens are another one I've never died to (that I can remember at least) and I think the thing that stops them from being a boss level threat is that they don't have the flight ability so you can literally just fly up to a ledge and snipe them with a bow. It's also weird that wardens have a despawn mechanic whereas all the others stay spawned once they have been.
I also really like the idea of a new boss in some kind of skulk dimension. The thought that there could be a mob that makes the warden look like a regular minecraft zombie or something is terrifying and I'm sure the rewards would be proportional to the difficulty of the boss
@@Eh......... withers are kind of easy to kill even in bedrock
I use a fluid to slow it and then arrow it. If you want to get a catalyst at the end then use water.
For the sky dropping, you could do a nether trip?
For suffocation, entity cramming seems like it works better. Drop him in a ton of minecarts
Mojang: ima pretend i didn´t see that
If you added a redstone clock to activate trap doors you could have held the warden in the suffocation trap till it died as it still hears noise
Ohhh, love the new video style!
what a thumbnail
Thanks bro 👍
We love you sparklez!
I like this format
7:10
Unless they don't affect him (though not entirely early game?), you could use a bubble elevator with soul sand to get him that high
Then have a tunnel beside it for yourself, follow him up, then use a trapdoor hole on a platform at the VERY top, to get him to fall down onto the dripstone
I'd have to test it, tho. Yet to find an ancient city to do so =/
does the warden get affected by potion effects?
could you setup a bounce pad, hit it with levitation and have it land and bounce while hitting it on its landing and be fine? I don't think it can Sonic boom midair.
my other idea is 64 despenser setup in a hallway filled with arrows and having the thing chase you through it. every Despenser would only have to hit once. could even use sculk to trigger it for the irony.
Thanks Jardon!!
The suffocation part got me laughing so hard hahahaha
There's no facecam because this is the badly injured clone that's been fighting off the TVA from abducting the clone that won MCC
ILY you so much your my childhood!!
You know... This is surprisingly relevant, because my younger bro found a pretty funny way to do this himself. Probably why I'm getting recommended this video anyways.
Iron Golem and a stack of Iron Ingots. You can probably put together what the process is yourself.
If not, then it's real simple. You construct the Iron Golem, you go about your business and end up summoning the Warden. You immediately get behind the Iron Golem, which will start smacking it around, keeping the Warden's aggro on it instead of you. It does a ton more damage than the Iron Golem, and will break it down faster than it can kill the Warden, which is where the Iron Ingots come in, as you stay close behind the Iron Golem, keeping it repaired to full health. Done right, you can probably even do it with less than a stack, but that's how my bro did it. Expensive, sure, but surprisingly effective...
You could also craft a dispenser and put arrows in it to kill it quicker
I kept hearing that no other mobs can spawn in the ancient city but I dont think that is the case when the city is generated along with other structure i.e. mineshaft.
crossbow with quick draw 3 and harming 2 tipped arrows works as well. or use the arrows i just mentioned in power 5 since i doubt power 5 does anything to increase the dps
Ill be honest, didnt expect this channle to have survived this long lol
7:27 set up a bubble column to bring the warden to 255 blocks above the dripstone and use water to put the warden on its way to the dripstone
Yes, then have string covered over the dripstone which will trigger pistons to push the warden back into the bubble column. Infinite repeat of dropping the warden. You can prolly do this at like 50 blocks high or something. A warden meat grinder
2:17 alternately you could use wither roses as a slower form of doing this
I didn’t realize this was captain sparkles lol
How effective are harming potions and harming tipped arrows? Also, what about either roses too? You can combine that with other methods. Btw harming tipped arrows do more damage while the bow is shortly drawn, so spam click the bow with a Power 5 bow maybe.
People who watch the Double Life SMP know that fishing rods are the best way to kill the warden
Strength would also help. Also couldn’t you use a tnt duper as long as the warden was in water too?
you can set up a red stone contraption to lock him by suffocation then shoot harming or normal arrows at it with dispensers.
In 4:23 if you have got endgame stuffs, choosing this method, may using magic arrows (especially, weakness) could give it a try somehow?
with the suffication option could you use powered snow to amplify the damage?
Warden said adiós to getting suffocated
0-ticking dispensers with arrows or harming potions should do the job pretty quickly.
yeah just get him in that small hole that jordan think is the best way and have dispensers spam shoot
What about using dripstone and suffocation? Would that cause enough damage to kill the warden before it gets bored and despawns itself?
1. would golden apple/potions be an improvement to the "trap him and hit him with a sword" method?
2. could you add dispensers into the suffocation chamber firing arrows at him while he suffocates?
3. Put minecarts at his feet
"I had to take a break from suffocating to go get a glass of water"
now i just need jordan to actually speedrun the warden in survival. random crafting but the end boss is the warden???
Double life crew killed it with fishing roads 🤣🤣
How to kill a warden
Me going to creative mode:
I started to play Minecraft to be repeatedly killed in a fight with a boss...
Alternatively strength II and Turtle master potions also do the trick
With Dripstones, you can use Bubble elevators
Curious. Why does nobody ever put thorns on their Armour when they do things like this? Lol
Thorns reduces armor durability, apparently.
@@TheIrrelevantYT yea but with mending, unbreaking and Modern XP farms it really doesn’t make too much difference lol
There are farms which can be setup way more easily without thorns, but again, you can make a second armour set
The point of Thorns is to punish relatively weak attacks while disrupting the attacker; this usually works in singleplayer because most mobs don't have the attack power to be more than a mild inconvenience, so when a mob sneaks up on you or you're dealing with a swarm it speeds up taking them down, and in PvP it annoys your opponent and racks up damage on their armour even if you've stopped attacking to heal.
When it comes to the very few high-damaging vanilla mobs and strong modded mobs tho, not only it's not exactly the best idea to fight them up close (why are you trying to melee something that 3hkos you even in full prot 4 netherite?), but also Thorns can actually be counterproductive because Thorns damage only caps at 4 (the same as a wood or gold sword), so more often than not it will just mess up your attack timing by triggering the invulnerability frames before your weapon swing AND eat away at your armour durability even more.
Even disregarding everything I just said, Thorns only works for "melee" attacks which only includes actual melee attacks and projectiles like arrows; Witches and Guardians, dealing magic damage, are unaffected as is the Warden while using the sonic attack, which ignores every defense of the target except the Resistance effect.
ever since i killed an endermite that attacked me while setting up an end farm, i stopped wearing thorns