TAPELESS VX1000 / DN-60(A) CF CARD RECORDER DATAVIDEO VX SKATE FILMING
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- Finally I have a tapeless vx1000! I knew it was possible! No more tape glitches! Links to the sony VX1000 camera and the Datavideo DN-60(A) recorder below...
Datavideo DN60 HDV/DV Solid State CF Card Video Recorder
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SONY DCR-VX1000
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Oh yes, here it is, the video you have been waiting for! Basic how to use and complete with known issues and workaround!
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TAPELESS! VX1000 / DN-60(A) CF CARD RECORDER TAPELESS DATAVIDEO VX1000 SKATE FILMING
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This is a solution to continue to use these cameras. It can be more reliable than the tape.
Even though you should use tapes to capture. But this is a game changer! Looking forward on hearing this product!!
Look at a used Datavideo DN-60, they are not made anymore as HDV is considered obsolete. Maybe there is some new old stock around.
jpsholland would you recommend the dn-60 or the focus enhancement fs-4 for a vx1000?
The only downside I could see would be having to hold it while filming fisheye. Might be smart to rig some kind of a handle for it to hang onto on the bottom of the camera or tape it somehow.
You could put a 1/4" male thread to cold shoe male and insert in the hot shoe on top of the VX. I believe there is a 1/4" female thread on the bottom the Datavideo recorder.
This is what I was referring to: www.amazon.com/SmallRig-Inches-Adapter-Monitor-Bracket/dp/B00DW29TBY/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519705488&sr=1-7&keywords=cold+shoe+to+1%2F4
U could get a longer cable and wear it on ur belt and be able to record pretty quickly
WOULD BE SO EPIC
On a side note... If your fav DV cam's tape deck has failed.. and has DV out.. grab a small DV camera if you can get it cheap, that has DV in feature and use that to record the DV out of favourite cam. It's a bit awkward but works.. Check specs online before bidding.. With the little Sonys you may need to make sure the touch screen is working in order to activate record DV in..
May as well buy another VX for that price lmao
yeah until the tape heads break again
Love the solution definitely gonna buy another VX ASAP
Dr Nicolson killing it as usual!
although you need no tape you still basically need to capture all the footage, so in my mind it'd be easier just to shoot tape. still I should try it
Ben Jones Yes. You should bc vx1000s are old and the heads go easily. Tapes glitch and stuff.
damn the audio issue it such a bummer.
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
this is fucking sick!!
hi! I got dn60 aswell and been having issues while capturing, like glitches, lag on image and audio on premiere. did u had any problem like this?
fr? did you figure out a solution?
does it prevent now all kind of glitch but maybe not thr one
coming from the camera
I’m getting “bad input” after trying on a freshly formatted card. I’ve tried 2 different cords and 2 different VX’s.
Hi, I have had that error when I was switching between an english PAL vx and a USA NTSC vx with the DN60.
It is simply a miss match of signals.
This worked for me...
On the DN-60 home menu you need to navigate to SYSTEM SETUP, then SET SIGNAL TYPE, and you will get the option for 50hz (PAL) or 60hz (NTSC).
If you are in UK/europe or australia it will be 50hz (PAL), or if you are in USA and some other places you will want to select 60hz (NTSC).
The DN60 will say you have to format the card but I guess they're still blank if you haven't got anything to work yet.
Hope that does the trick for you!
DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS That along with a factory reset and changing the file type seems to have fixed it and allowed me to successfully record, thank you! When “capturing” did you plug the 4 pin end of you FireWire into the laptop? Neither of my computers offer a 4 pin port, my only option for capturing would be to do 6 pin to 6 pin, think that would work?
@@CVX1000 6 pin to six pin firewire should work exactly the same way. Yeah my laptop has 4pin, but I don't think it makes any difference as the signal doesnt change at all.
Where Can i buy this ?
1:54 What cord did you purchase for the datavideo dn-60 capture process?
do you need to have the tape mechanism open?
i dont think you do but you never know
no
Hi there is some way how to check the clips in the streets from recorder?
I got canon MX2 and datavideo DN60A, but I have "No Input" on the device. I tried all the settings. Maybe it's the firewire cable or the port on a camera. Any idea here?
When i capture from it and click "Stop import" it doesn't actually import anything.. I can see + hear it capturing in FCP but it doesnt actually import when i click stop is just makes a glitchy sound for ages
Hi! Oh that doesn't sound good... I use premiere and have no experience with FCP unfortunately.
The fact its previewing the video and the sound is a good sign, but if it's not actually making the file then I have no idea.
Perhaps try some different capture software or see if theres anything in the capture settings that can changed.
The audio glitch noise reminds me of when I put the card straight into my computer (instead of capturing) and all the sound was mad. Which leads me to think that it is something to do with the audio settings...
If you can try some other capture software somehow I think that would be the first thing to try.
Good luck I hope you get it working!
i just got premiere and works fine haha.. so weird!!
@@mattie_world Weird! I guess it's a bit of an inconvinience, but I'm glad to hear that you managed to get round that issue!
I tried to use it on Sony HVR z1 the device was not responding when it was connected to comcoder
work in sony vx200 e
I'm back, I wanted to know what cable you used, i bought a firewire to usb for mine, i use windows 10 but when i hit capture it doesnt show up
These cables don't work, believe me I've tried. They use two completely different, and incompatible file protocols. Hope this helps :)
@@martyxke thank you! what do you use to process with audio then?
@@AngelBarreroP I'm not sure what you mean about processing audio, as I gave up using my tape based Sony VX2100 many years ago, at the time I used Adobe premier to capture DV footage via firewire, including the encoded audio on the tape (I did research my upgrade options at the time, when my old firewire laptop died, and found the FireWire technology had become obsolete on all newer laptop models ) Nowadays I use a Sony mirrorless camera, and capture 4k video, and use external recorders for my additional audio. I tried the firewire to USB lead, but after several failed attempts to capture directly via USB, I further researched the issues, and found out about the incompatibility issues of trying a straight forward cable.
Hey there! I am having trouble capturing from the DN-60. I have tried both FCP and Premiere Pro. No video or audio signal comes up. Any idea? Anything I have to change on the DN-60 to get a signal? Thanks!
Yo! Apologies for late reply, I always forget to check messages.
I just set mine up to investigate and had the same problem.
I got it to work by doing this...
-Have DN-60 on and plugged into computer, premiere open, but DO NOT open the capture window yet.
-Put DN-60 into playback mode (the little wheel thing on the front)
-Press play on DN-60 so it is sending a signal, and THEN open the capture window (make sure your capture settings are on DV not HDV).
The capture window opens with the footage playing and it should be all good! Or at least that is what worked for me.
Device control from computer all works fine after this and is just like any other normal capturing.
I hope that does the trick!
Please let me know how it goes because if it isn't this, I could mess about some more and perhaps find something else that it might be.
But yeah, basically, press play on dn60 before opening capture window. Good luck!!
@@DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS No problem! Thank you for getting back to me. I did try it in that order but no luck. I also have trouble getting a signal to film with the vx as well. I will get "NO INPUT" often. The only way it works at all is if I connect in the exact order you did in this video but still no luck with capturing to premiere or fcp. I have tried multiple laptops and cameras too. Not sure what the deal is. I have read you need to use older memory cards but I am not having issues with the footage after it is recorded. I open the files and the audio is messed up but footage looks great/normal... Thanks again.
That is a shame that didn't work!
Directly after you have filmed something, with it all hooked up to the camera still, can you play it back in the viewfinder? (You know, like with the VX and DN60 both on playback mode) Sound all good too?
Mine does this fine
(I got DN60A / NTSC VX1000)
Because if this if all fine then that means the DN60 is recording fine, and more importantly playing back fine.
The problems somehow then gotta be in the settings or something.
We need to get to the bottom of this! =)
@@DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS It is a shame! Yes, after recording I am able to playback fine in the VX1000. As far as audio, I can not hear with the vx but I am able to playback fine and hear fine with my mini dv capture camera I have been using for some time now. I do not know what it could be other than a setting or something in Adobe Premiere. I am using a 64 gig UDMA 7 card and have heard it does not do well with newer cards but everything seems fine on that end. I am not sure why the memory card would be an issue with capturing but that is the only other thing I can possible think of...
I think it is worth a shot to get a different CF card.
I looked it up, and on page 13 of the manual it even says ..
"NOTE: the CF card does not support UMDA 7 and we recommend a UMDA 6 compliant CF card that is 32 GB or less."
Other than that I would say maybe try different recording settings on the DN 60. I know you can choose between a few different formats i.e .avi or .mov etc..
You have to format the card to change any settings like that I think though so watch out for that.
I will have a look through the settings menus and see if I can find anything!! We WILL solve this!! =)
any tips how to get this gript on your camera ?
sadly the dn60 is not available so easy anymore. Would be great if such devices would be more common, they could reduce the e-waste massively cause people still can use their old camera.
I've only one since they first came out, not a good idea to run that camera with the cassette door open like that! Just be safe, shoot on Mini DV and convert it in post!
are there any other companies that make these or similar but maybe cheaper? big money in this tech if you could bring down cost for consumer, vx1000 market alone would love it
my DN60 will not recognize my vx1000. It did one time and that was it. Not sure wtf is going on
Try a different FireWire cable.
will this work with the canon ml1 or ml2
Does this only work with premier pro for capturing?
Does this device have any issues if your using a Japanese vx1000?
No it works just have to use slightly different settings
how do i get one of these i looked around but not finding any @DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS
I have a Sony hvr-mrc1 and can’t seem to get it to work. Do you know if the vx is incompatible with the Sony device?
Hi, I have never seen one of those is real life, but I did a quick search and found that they reckon it's compatible with "Some DV camera's"...
So as the vx was very high end when it came out I would think that is IS one of the compatible ones. But like I said, I have never had the chance to try one.
All i can suggest is to double check all the settings (region, file type etc) and make sure they match your vx.
Sorry I can't be of more help, I hope you get it working! Those mrc1 things would be a great dn-60 alternative if it works!
@@DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS Did you get it to work with the hvr-mrc 1 on the vx1000? I can't find the dn60 for sale really anywhere. saw one in Uk thats it so far.
@@sprinklesf5075 Hi, sorry, I do not have a hvr-mrc1and when I looked it up if they are compatible I only found stuff that said maybe. All I can suggest is to look up the manual online, will prob be a PDF somewhere and have a good read. double check the settings match the camera. That's the best I can do I'm afraid. Good luck!!
p.s. dont spend too much $$ on the dn-60, they pop up on ebay quite randomly.
To get a real bargain you gotta be patient and keep checking!
SprinkleSF I got it to work! I needed to use a 160mb/s card. The one I was using was slower.
I’d buy the Sony hvr mrc1 if u still have it
Would this work for a vx2000 as well???
I wanna know aswell
@@thetinhat1022 should work if ite the same firewire connection?
I‘m looking to buy a dn-60 Recorder for my vx.
Do you know how the Recorder gets the videosignal?
Cause I think the heads of my vx may have some damage (the footage on the vx itself looks good but on the capture cam there are some glitches).
So does the heads still need to be okay or does the recorder skip them? If you don’t need to use any tapes the heads may not be used.
Do you know anything about that?
use a different camera to import the video
heads has nothing to do with it.
Hey man, do you still have this setup?
can you still film over your footage in play mode? like you could with tape...
also can you remove the footage from your sd card once its full? cuz buying sd cards is a little bit more expensive than tapes I think...
Uhhh you can download footage to a laptop/iPad pro in minutes and day format the card.
of course you can remove footage from the card
do you have problem erasing the cards? I tried to erase the bins with DN 60, but they remain full, and can't record any further on card. I tried erasing the files from my computer, but the cards still appear full to the DN 60.
try formating with a DSLR
Where would you mount this device on the VX? I want to keep my hotshoe mount for other things (such as LED lights or Displays).
You could attach 1/4" male to male thread to the bottom of VX and Datavideo recorder: www.amazon.com/SmallRig-Double-Head-Stud-Microphone/dp/B007LTH1X2. As for using with a tripod, you could attach this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/752863-REG/Vello_SE_10_SE_10_Hot_Shoe_Extension.html and mount multiple accessories.
Might go for the bottom then. But what really stops me from getting one is the audio issue. Did you find any workaround yet?
The only thing I can think of is a different Sony VX model that doesn’t have the audio issues, record audio seperately onto a recorder and shotgun, like the Zoom H5 and Shotgun adapter, or capturing the whole CF card using Scene Detect in Adobe Premiere Pro.
I need to buy this datavideo How do I get it?
I use the firestore fs100 and it’s much easier than the dn60. No cf card needed. Just plug er in the computer via firewire and you’re good to go
Wow! I have a fs100 also (got it very cheap) I found that they are so big and heavy it wasn't practical for me. I am impressed that you manage to use that one! Good on you man!!!
I should do a side by side comparison maybe
Thanks for the comment!!
@@DEATHRIDERSKATEVIDS thanks for the idea!! without you i wouldnt be tapeless hahahah
yoo,i just got one of these, whats the best way to process to get video to my iphone
Yo! Sorry, I only know how to use it with a PC window computer....
You would have to convert the files to mp4 and somehow send it to your phone.... airdrop maybe? I dunno, I am useless with phone stuff! I hope you find a way!
Hi, curious to know if I would be able to capture from the dn-60 using Final Cut Pro 7?
You don't need to capture, is a file you just drag and drop. You can see it as a more affordable alternative for the famous Focus DTE recorders. As far as i know every video editor pick it up.
jpsholland is the focus DTE recorder a better unit than the DN-60? I want to pick the one that will work best with my vx1000 but I also see the focus units are cheaper than the Datavideo units. Thank you
jpsholland with the DTE ones you don’t need to capture? Also what’s the model name?
jpsholland you just drag and drop footage?
can I do the same with a trv 900 camcorder ?
should work...same firewire connection maybe?
How do you keep the vx from shutting off? If I’m not recording anything my vx shuts off on its own in a few minutes.
If there is a tape in there, you have to take it out so the camera doesn’t turn off in 5 minutes.
@@fazequiet8076 how long does it stay on before shutting off without a tape in it?
am i trippin?
Does it work for VHS ?
Yes, if you have a VHS machine with a firewire output, but i guess that will be the problem.....
Does this retain the same footage quality as tapes? Ive been looking at these for a few years, but this is the first review with a vx1000...
yo would this work on vx2000?
It pick up every DV and HDV signal which is streamed through FireWire from any camera. (at the time we tried one on a Ikegami HL-DV7w) The VX-2000 is the successor of the VX-1000 zo i give it a 99.99% chance of yes it will work.
So i bought one brand new and for some reason it has a bunch of random white specs that pop up in the footy, do you have this issue? The audio is fine but the video isnt
donald bullock i bought one also and mine doesnt reconize the camera at all tryed to make it work for an hour never been able t
sebastien poulin try taking the card out and plugging it in, then changing it to the right format then inserting the card and formatting. It took me a while to figure that out, but the footage has the snow still. Pretty bumbed.
donald bullock alright gonna try thanks man
those it ever happen when u plug in the dn60 to the vx the unit just kind of freeze
sebastien poulin yeah, plug it in without the card, if it gets stuck loading, just turn it off
So expensive
Howd u plug that into your computer
firewire!!!!!
I've been looking for one, for ages, do anyone know where I can find one?
Go on eBay, set a search alert, and just pray someone lists one, just got one from a guy who had listed 3 of them
Omg just buy new camera thats all