Oh heck yeah! If the Vagabond (or anyone really) kills the keep on turn 1 and totally stops me from having a chance at winning, I'm not letting them win, no way!
It just seems bonkers to me that people go after Cats on turn one. They're already an underdog. If you have to attack someone right away, they're the last faction I'd target. I'm glad they're buffing cats in Advanced Setup.
When you're the Cats versus a potentially aggressive Vagabond, you really CANNOT bunch all your buildings up in a single clearing; at least not early in the game. Spread the buildings out, make sure you spend your wood each turn, and make sure you get at least 3 warriors in the your Keep to discourage aggression.
Glad I could help! Yes dom swapping is like a niche strategy that should be written on their player board. Its that important. otherwise you continue to sacrifice your way through and no one likes that!
Honestly thanks so much for the Dominance swap! I love playing the lizards and this is a great strategy. I really stink though at play the River Folk, maybe do a video of you playing them??
Glad I could help! DomSwapping is the way! those pesky wilds are a lot worse than suited cards for the Lizards. And I have some gameplays coming but here is one that I have out now! czcams.com/video/QSq8HOUB9f4/video.html
these digital playthrus are super helpful and i wish we could get some more of them :) played and won my first game of lizards AND otters using the strategies you displayed here, so i owe those victories heavily to you, my friend.
When we play at home we add a tiny custom rule for the Vagabond. If you break a Vagabond item thats 1 point for you, it always baffles me that theres really no incentive in attacking the Vagabond other than stoping him from winning. The thing is if you expend 1 or 2 turns controlling the enemy Vagabond you are basicaly going to lose guaranteed since you wasted so much time and resources for nothing. With this custom rule theres an actual reason to get that bastard.
Im kind of new to Root, only have a couple of games under my belt. Ive often heard about the consequences of a turn 1 keep assault, but never really understood the repercussion it really had on the game. The birds have more space to build their roost without much competition and the the same can be said about the lizards garden. Cats cant really do anything else than going for a vendetta, and it kinda leaves a "meh" aftertaste for the rest of the game. On another note, awesome lizard win! The only time i played it, i didnt protect my gardens and i got board wiped. Definitly going to try again with some of them LotB tactics
What a crazy game. Thanks a lot for the great content. I really enjoy your Root digital commentaries. I feel like there aren't enough of those out there, so I was glad to hear you say at the end that you'll be making more!
Glad you enjoy it! I now have 1 up for each factions but I want to make it a weekly thing where I just post a game once a week or so! some good games and some bad ones. I try to sift through and use the interesting ones.
Great game and video. When you talked about game balance being really important, I felt it. I know the game fairly well and it always pains me to see my opponent go after me because they're afraid, leaving another player completely unchallenged. You've got to look at the balance of powers as a whole when deciding where to direct aggression and defence. Otherwise you just hand the game to a player, to the detriment of everyone else.
@@LordoftheBoardthe worst part is I try to tell them that the other faction is going to run away with the game and they just think I'm trying to lie my way into a better position!
Would love to play an actual game sometime lord when someone does crush my keep turn 1 That was a brutal hit Love the dom swapping tip. My lizards will be even better now
@@naturesfinest2408 i hadn't played cats in so long especially on the app and someone doing that totally slipped my mind. Felt like such a wheen but it is such a dick move first turn or 2. After that fair game imo
Same with the lizards cult. Fear of the faithful does not seem random. It takes the suited card, fox garden fox card, or the best card, an ambush usually. I never lose a random card.
Im okay with watching interesting games you lose. If that factors into what you put out. I couldve missed the ones where you lost. Learning from your mistakes haha I like the playthroughs! Will you do in person games?
I got a few I definitely do not win! 😂 I do try to upload interesting games though. But I’ve got a line up of games where I lose! I think the next 3 uploads I lose? Mabye 2 we shall see
I really enjoy root digital. I havnt had a chance to play with the new deck yet. Gonna try and put some time in next day off. I do wish the developers would update it more often or just in general care more about it. Show root digital some love please.
In my opinion the Birds are the first choice. Play a game or two with them and then try the Cats. But keep in mind that knowing the mechanics of each faction doesn’t mean it’s easy to win with. It takes time. Become familiar with each faction and then try a new one. If you love it there’s plenty more. Have fun!
* If you like Starcraft-esque micromanagement and forward planning, you might like birds. * If you like a more freeform but still tense strategy game where you're the underdog, you might like cats. * If you like having the space to do your own thing and bump shoulders when you choose to, you might like VB. * If you want to play around with strategy game elements without too much pressure and enjoy fuckin around a bit, you might like crows
I bought all of the roots physical boardgames expansions and all the digital content as well I've only been able to play on digital so far but it's because of your videos that I even heard about this game and was able to start playing I appreciate the great content an the strategy guides! Also a big fan of villainous! I got all those expansions as well because of your videos!
Just jumped into the ROOT train:D but with board version, i think commander as first is really powerfull, you can kill much faster, also 1 warrior for 2 damage? hell yeah can swarm way more also
Sam I really hope Leder gives you something for these OR you get to help design the next expansion! You're not just Lord of the board... bro... you're Lord of the Woodland.
Haha I appreciate you! They actually are a sponsor of the channel now! ledergames.com/LOTB if you buy anything using my link it supports my channel directly which is awesome. And I’m hoping to one day have my Gorge map be produced by them
@@LordoftheBoard Your Gorge map is awesome - that would be so great to see + play on with some new factions. There's so much love for the game!... Have you given any thought to faction design? I'm working on 2 new factions myself (for fun), I'd love to share and get your thoughts sometime (lmk). The concept is to bring in 2 apex predators that cause middle-map mayhem by utilizing the forests + ruins (The Wolf Pack) and the river/lake (Crocodilian Defenders). The Marauder expansion just released a few weeks ago (here in Canada) and it's amazing. I love the Lord's use of items and the Keepers use of the forests. It inspired me to take the concept a bit further and use more of the map's untouched areas..
@@LordoftheBoard nice win just finished watching the whole thing. I hope they turn there attention to the digital version more maybe get some tournaments going once it’s 100%
@@spearshaker7974 yeah they hopefully clear out any remaining bugs!! :) but I agree. Did you watch the root digital tournament game on the channel here?
@@LordoftheBoard no I was just watching the table top simulator finals game. I’ve watched a lot of your videos but I don’t remember seeing any tournaments I’ll be sure to check it out tho.
thanks for the tips for the lizards. Somehow I keep forgetting to defend my gardens. Not sure but does the Advanced set-up now add two acolytes for the lizards?
Yeah it works both ways. They could have denied my dom swapping. They could attack me. But then ill strike back with conversions. Thats why I love them. they are a puzzle.
Had similar game...dude demolished the keep with vagabond first turn and i steamrolled the game with Birds...so a dubious opening tbh...quick points grab but long term not the best strategy
I play the table top game. This is my first time seeing the digital version. Found it a little hard to follow at first then got the hang of it. One question came to mind… was the Vagabond scoring a point by killing the hostile cats with the crossbow strike? I didn’t think you could get infamy that way.
Could you tell me why vangabond get the second point in first round, as I know if hostile mode he can get point by remove building and token only. Is this bug game or something I don't know ? Thank you so much. 😊
Going after the cats keep so early just honestly feels really rude and dirty considering they can be eliminated. Instead of eliminating the keep players should just be able to score points for "sieging" it until the cats can defend it I think. In a game with friends I would restart. what's the point of playing if you're essentially going to treat one player as irrelevant from turn 1
That's a really cool houserule! The keep cannot be killed, and if an enemy rules the clearing with the keep they gain one point at the end of their turn a la The Pass from the mountain map. If playing with it, I would also give cats an extra 1 or 2 warriors in the keep at the start.
@@LordoftheBoard i played 23 games and won 11 of them then became too proud of my record and became anxious at the thought of trying to stress myself out keeping that win % going. (Which would have been an “impossibility). Lol
Vengeance is a two sided sword. On turn 2, the cat really didn't have to attack the vagabond since vagabond was gonna go to the forest anyway. Or was it not gonna?
The Lizards are so weak, the game has to go perfectly good for them and they still can only *barely* win. I think the Favor cards really help them out if you can pull them off, but most people don't like them and use the Partisans deck instead. I hope they get buffed in more ways than just the setup.
I think at this state they are okay! They are definitely bottom tier but I’ve found they can be quite a problem for other factions which I love. The cards matter a lot though for sure
When dominance cards are discarded they are supposed to be set in an open supply. At any time during your turn your can discard a suited card for dominance of the same from the open supply. Or discard a wild for any of them :)
Yeah, that ranger.... I like the ranger. I think it's a good vagabond. But man do people give it and badgiter a bad name with the absolutely rude moves. Very narrow thinking, because the moves aren't even that good. You essentially eliminate a player, which is someone you need to check other militants, and out your intentions to the entire table so that they all turn against you. Yes, ranger, hadgebadge, and the flying squirrel of death, are very aggressive vagrants, but you can play aggressively and still play fair. Poor badgers can't even get hired to help in battles because no one trusts them.
Vagabond is just so OP, easily the worst designed faction in the game. Despite being sent to the woods 4-5 times they almost won. Infamy is just way too overpowered, really everything they do is just way too much, there's very little they can do that doesn't give them points... Meanwhile, nobody benefits from attacking the vagabond.
Dunno why people compelement cat player.He went full rage vendetta on vagabond instead of trying to score point which is the point of the game and waste an hour of time for vendetta in video game lol.
Root is more than just scoring points. It’s also a conversation. The vagabond taking cats out lets other factions grow super powered. And in the end neither player wins because table balance was disrupted by a player wanting to get 6 points and knock out a player from the game. If the cats had scored points even after that they would have had a hard time getting back into the game. People are complimenting the cats because they didn’t just quit and ensured the VB didn’t win after pulling that move. Also at live tables the VB is nerfed and in tournaments. So digital we live with the Broken VB still
@@LordoftheBoard So if u get angry by someone u should just attack them whole game?I neven said Vb made amazing move,but cats went berserk for entire game.And this game shows main problem of root Cats and Lizards being weak and easy to disrupt,while VB can get hammered whole game and still almost win.
@@user-ly5oo2hd7p no it’s not always the right move. But in this cats since it’s digital the cats were probably showing VB that doing greedy plays like that towards cats throws the table off. It is a highly asymmetric negotiation game. When you confine it to digital weird things happen. It sounds like root may just not be your style of game. But to me this was a blast and was peak content haha.
@@LordoftheBoard I like root alot,but games like this shows that it has problems with setup and balance and kingmaking for sure.For lizard cult games like this are fun ofc,coz it is about the only way they ever win,coz of their slow nature.
@@user-ly5oo2hd7p I would have to respectfully disagree. Only because I’ve seen so many tournament games. And lizards have won games with pro players. I think sure this can help but it’s not the majority of the way. Also yes kingmaking is inherent in the design. It’s a positive for me. Good for storytelling.
@@northabbot7116 I don’t believe they took that many hits. They didn’t mention having too. It’s possible. But the text in the current game has been bugging with the new release. I remember checking their backpack and nothing seemed off from what I could tell
imma say it.. i dont get it.. the game is to win? legit its a war game.. why is he just non stop talkina bout how horrible it was for the ranger to do that. the game is to win.. thats it, its a good thing he did that cause he trying to get that W
Total - that’s always the goal. However as we see here. They were in the forest most of the game because of that decision. And they didn’t even get the W. They could have played it better. Usually turn one keep helps other factions rise up. And if they score faster than you you just shot yourself in the foot - had a boring forest game and the cats have a boring game. But yeah the game is to win. It’s just turn one keeping is like my least favorite way for people to attempt to win
The thing we have to consider here is that Root is an assymetrical POLITICAL game at its core. That's right, its not just a war game, but a game where you need tabletalk and some degree of charisma to be able to get an advantage. Table talk makes or breaks a game session. To sum it up, the player that gets punished by other players the most will lose (generally) and the player that carries on with his or her plans unnoticed or without too much intervention will almost always win. It is true the objective of the game is to win it by outscoring your rivals, but, as LOTB already stated, there are smarter ways to do it. Going full aggro turn 1 or 2 will almost always net you hate from the affected faction and they will make sure you lose the game. VB could have explored ruins and aided the first couple of turns, crafting here and there, and THEN turning hostile at the 15 VP mark so they get a chance to win. All factions are nearly the same, you need a balanced board and some alliances to be able to get the win. Its impossible for any single player to keep all other 3 factions in check simultaneously, hence why you need the help from others. Btw, Im a huge fan LOTB!!! love your content. I hope I get to play Root with you someday!!!
I'm gonna agree with LotB on this one. If you take out cats early like this, they will most likely struggle to win and therefore won't have any reason to sink their game just to stop you. If a player does this sort of thing to me, I will make sure they don't win. Not because I'm petty but because it is important for people to understand that in Root, early player elimination has consequences. Player elimination is encouraged in Risk (which is why I don't enjoy that game) but if you do it in Root, that player will be around all game to exact revenge.
@@View619 Of course not. Mutually assured destruction means if you kill me, I'll kill you back, the mere threat of retaliation is what prevents the first strike. The USSR and USA didn't engage in nuclear war because of MAD. If the Vagabond player knows I don't tolerate that sort of thing in my games, they'll think twice before killing me keep. I want this policy of mine to be well-known to all. If you take out my keep like this Vagabond did, you will not win and I will make sure of it. That's how you utilize the threat of MAD in a strategically smart way.
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I love how Cat went full offense on Vagabond in last turn. Made great vengeance story and earned full respect for staying whole game
I agree entirely! 👍🏽
Oh heck yeah! If the Vagabond (or anyone really) kills the keep on turn 1 and totally stops me from having a chance at winning, I'm not letting them win, no way!
It just seems bonkers to me that people go after Cats on turn one. They're already an underdog. If you have to attack someone right away, they're the last faction I'd target. I'm glad they're buffing cats in Advanced Setup.
Yes advanced setup really do be working wonders.
@@LordoftheBoard tell me about advanced setup? 👀
@@davidvelazquez677 cats would have started with 2 warriors in each territory with a building, I think.
When you're the Cats versus a potentially aggressive Vagabond, you really CANNOT bunch all your buildings up in a single clearing; at least not early in the game. Spread the buildings out, make sure you spend your wood each turn, and make sure you get at least 3 warriors in the your Keep to discourage aggression.
I agree
That vagabond broke the First Commandment of Root: "Thou shalt not storm the Keep on Turn 1"! Holy shit!
Just shows an issue with the game balance. The keep should get 3 cats minimum on turn one imo.
Love having these playthroughs with commentary. Great work LotB.
Glad you like them! Question. More videos less editing and downtime. or less videos but all with this amount of Qaulity?
@@LordoftheBoard More videos and less editing and downtime is very good already! :)
Wow!!! That dominance swap was genuine! Thanks for sharing
This is the way
Holy cow what an interesting game! I've been trying to get better at LC recently so this video helped a lot! I SHALL DOM SWAP MY WAY TO S TIER!
Glad I could help! Yes dom swapping is like a niche strategy that should be written on their player board. Its that important. otherwise you continue to sacrifice your way through and no one likes that!
Man, feels bad for the cats player
I know :/
@@LordoftheBoard hey at least he stuck around.
Thats quality sportsmanship
@@LordoftheBoard btw luv these vids, so great
Honestly thanks so much for the Dominance swap! I love playing the lizards and this is a great strategy. I really stink though at play the River Folk, maybe do a video of you playing them??
Glad I could help! DomSwapping is the way! those pesky wilds are a lot worse than suited cards for the Lizards. And I have some gameplays coming but here is one that I have out now! czcams.com/video/QSq8HOUB9f4/video.html
these digital playthrus are super helpful and i wish we could get some more of them :) played and won my first game of lizards AND otters using the strategies you displayed here, so i owe those victories heavily to you, my friend.
I wish I did more of them. It takes a lot of work.
When we play at home we add a tiny custom rule for the Vagabond. If you break a Vagabond item thats 1 point for you, it always baffles me that theres really no incentive in attacking the Vagabond other than stoping him from winning.
The thing is if you expend 1 or 2 turns controlling the enemy Vagabond you are basicaly going to lose guaranteed since you wasted so much time and resources for nothing.
With this custom rule theres an actual reason to get that bastard.
Pretty cool idea! :)
Im kind of new to Root, only have a couple of games under my belt. Ive often heard about the consequences of a turn 1 keep assault, but never really understood the repercussion it really had on the game.
The birds have more space to build their roost without much competition and the the same can be said about the lizards garden. Cats cant really do anything else than going for a vendetta, and it kinda leaves a "meh" aftertaste for the rest of the game.
On another note, awesome lizard win! The only time i played it, i didnt protect my gardens and i got board wiped. Definitly going to try again with some of them LotB tactics
You now see it first hand! also really hope this helped!
Fantastic seeing a lizard game! I really like them, but its so hard to learn to play them well.
Love lizards. Don't win often with them. Just won on the boardgame with seasoned players finally.
Lord of hundreds, cats, dutchy, lizards.
Feels good.
Nicely done
What a crazy game. Thanks a lot for the great content. I really enjoy your Root digital commentaries. I feel like there aren't enough of those out there, so I was glad to hear you say at the end that you'll be making more!
Love these digital gameplay videos w commentary! New to the game and these are really helpful as well as entertaining!
Glad you enjoy it! I now have 1 up for each factions but I want to make it a weekly thing where I just post a game once a week or so! some good games and some bad ones. I try to sift through and use the interesting ones.
Perfect timing I was literally just going back over the playlist!
Perfect!
It's ROOT TIMEEE !!!
YAY root time is best time!
What an incredible game! Everyone in that game played phenomenally. Awesome video too!
It was really wild :)
We need more Root Digital on your channel! Always a blast to watch!
I agree! :)
What a crazy game!
I know right? Wild?
@@LordoftheBoard Yeah hehe
Great game and video. When you talked about game balance being really important, I felt it. I know the game fairly well and it always pains me to see my opponent go after me because they're afraid, leaving another player completely unchallenged. You've got to look at the balance of powers as a whole when deciding where to direct aggression and defence. Otherwise you just hand the game to a player, to the detriment of everyone else.
Precisely!!! It’s a fragile game. Every player needs to know the possibilities of each position :)
@@LordoftheBoardthe worst part is I try to tell them that the other faction is going to run away with the game and they just think I'm trying to lie my way into a better position!
Great game. Appreciate the editing and commentating. Must take a while.
It does! Hence there isn’t as many on the channel as I would like. But I am going to be producing more. 🤝
@@LordoftheBoard God speed!
Despot Infamy won't be coming to digital anytime soon, but good on you spreading the word for it
Would love to play an actual game sometime lord when someone does crush my keep turn 1
That was a brutal hit
Love the dom swapping tip. My lizards will be even better now
Ive it had it happen a few times. Otters, vagabond, eyrie did it on their second. I dont know why they would but they all did.
@@naturesfinest2408 i hadn't played cats in so long especially on the app and someone doing that totally slipped my mind. Felt like such a wheen but it is such a dick move first turn or 2. After that fair game imo
Same with the lizards cult. Fear of the faithful does not seem random. It takes the suited card, fox garden fox card, or the best card, an ambush usually. I never lose a random card.
I agree
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I learn so much from these playthrough videos!
Im okay with watching interesting games you lose. If that factors into what you put out. I couldve missed the ones where you lost. Learning from your mistakes haha
I like the playthroughs!
Will you do in person games?
I got a few I definitely do not win! 😂 I do try to upload interesting games though. But I’ve got a line up of games where I lose! I think the next 3 uploads I lose? Mabye 2 we shall see
Definitely a goal to do in person. Honestly every donation helps because a goal of mine is to get a second camera to make live playthrough possible!
I really enjoy root digital. I havnt had a chance to play with the new deck yet. Gonna try and put some time in next day off. I do wish the developers would update it more often or just in general care more about it. Show root digital some love please.
Definitely try! Also yeah slow and steady is about how the updates have been. WIth how popular root is now im sure we will see it get everything!
What an amazing game
Very whack!!!
more Videos Sir! we want to see you play ROOT online against some humans :3
More of this?
Hes vs humans?
Crazy game, great run through on how to play as Reptoids
Love it!! I just got the base game. What faction do you suggest I play first?
In my opinion the Birds are the first choice. Play a game or two with them and then try the Cats. But keep in mind that knowing the mechanics of each faction doesn’t mean it’s easy to win with. It takes time. Become familiar with each faction and then try a new one. If you love it there’s plenty more. Have fun!
* If you like Starcraft-esque micromanagement and forward planning, you might like birds.
* If you like a more freeform but still tense strategy game where you're the underdog, you might like cats.
* If you like having the space to do your own thing and bump shoulders when you choose to, you might like VB.
* If you want to play around with strategy game elements without too much pressure and enjoy fuckin around a bit, you might like crows
Dang that vagabond literally just said F your keep and F you lmao that was so brutal!
Brutal indeed. :)
I bought all of the roots physical boardgames expansions and all the digital content as well I've only been able to play on digital so far but it's because of your videos that I even heard about this game and was able to start playing I appreciate the great content an the strategy guides! Also a big fan of villainous! I got all those expansions as well because of your videos!
Just jumped into the ROOT train:D but with board version, i think commander as first is really powerfull, you can kill much faster, also 1 warrior for 2 damage? hell yeah can swarm way more also
It can be good! 🔥 I usually have it become my second or third only because there are more pieces to smack by that point usually.
One word: Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
So much shade! lol I loved it! Brutal game
Wild game OMG
Right!??
Just started learning lizards, thanks for the cool video!! 😎
Good! hopefully this helped you out!
Sam I really hope Leder gives you something for these OR you get to help design the next expansion! You're not just Lord of the board... bro... you're Lord of the Woodland.
Haha I appreciate you! They actually are a sponsor of the channel now! ledergames.com/LOTB if you buy anything using my link it supports my channel directly which is awesome. And I’m hoping to one day have my Gorge map be produced by them
@@LordoftheBoard Your Gorge map is awesome - that would be so great to see + play on with some new factions. There's so much love for the game!... Have you given any thought to faction design? I'm working on 2 new factions myself (for fun), I'd love to share and get your thoughts sometime (lmk).
The concept is to bring in 2 apex predators that cause middle-map mayhem by utilizing the forests + ruins (The Wolf Pack) and the river/lake (Crocodilian Defenders). The Marauder expansion just released a few weeks ago (here in Canada) and it's amazing. I love the Lord's use of items and the Keepers use of the forests. It inspired me to take the concept a bit further and use more of the map's untouched areas..
Kudod for the cat player. I whould have been so salty...
I just noticed the bird combat at 38:10 did one commander dmg and it made the vb dmg 3 items.
Yeah I’m unsure how that happened! Sad bug if so.
@@LordoftheBoard nice win just finished watching the whole thing. I hope they turn there attention to the digital version more maybe get some tournaments going once it’s 100%
@@spearshaker7974 yeah they hopefully clear out any remaining bugs!! :) but I agree. Did you watch the root digital tournament game on the channel here?
@@LordoftheBoard no I was just watching the table top simulator finals game. I’ve watched a lot of your videos but I don’t remember seeing any tournaments I’ll be sure to check it out tho.
thanks for the tips for the lizards. Somehow I keep forgetting to defend my gardens. Not sure but does the Advanced set-up now add two acolytes for the lizards?
You start with 2 acolytes yes! :)
Understanding Lizards as opponents is really difficult. They had to fight you. Nobody fought you. They were like fighting each other helping you win 🤣
Yeah it works both ways. They could have denied my dom swapping. They could attack me. But then ill strike back with conversions. Thats why I love them. they are a puzzle.
brutal
Had similar game...dude demolished the keep with vagabond first turn and i steamrolled the game with Birds...so a dubious opening tbh...quick points grab but long term not the best strategy
Great video today 👍
Glad you enjoyed it :)
I play the table top game. This is my first time seeing the digital version. Found it a little hard to follow at first then got the hang of it. One question came to mind… was the Vagabond scoring a point by killing the hostile cats with the crossbow strike? I didn’t think you could get infamy that way.
Hmm yeah lemme check on that!
Could you tell me why vangabond get the second point in first round, as I know if hostile mode he can get point by remove building and token only. Is this bug game or something I don't know ? Thank you so much. 😊
Going after the cats keep so early just honestly feels really rude and dirty considering they can be eliminated. Instead of eliminating the keep players should just be able to score points for "sieging" it until the cats can defend it I think.
In a game with friends I would restart. what's the point of playing if you're essentially going to treat one player as irrelevant from turn 1
Im happy the cats stayed to attack the Ranger all game. But it must have taken a lot of strength.
That's a really cool houserule! The keep cannot be killed, and if an enemy rules the clearing with the keep they gain one point at the end of their turn a la The Pass from the mountain map. If playing with it, I would also give cats an extra 1 or 2 warriors in the keep at the start.
What are the vagbond nerfs for tournaments you are talking about?
Miss playing this game
It is quite good..
@@LordoftheBoard i played 23 games and won 11 of them then became too proud of my record and became anxious at the thought of trying to stress myself out keeping that win % going. (Which would have been an “impossibility). Lol
Any shot you would schedule play on a discord server with people?
Could be a really fun evening.
Also, have you ever played Armello?
Join the fire and ice discord in my description and ping me! I’ll set something up!
And yea I love armello :) it is a good one.
More Root playthough plzzzz
Vengeance is a two sided sword. On turn 2, the cat really didn't have to attack the vagabond since vagabond was gonna go to the forest anyway. Or was it not gonna?
The Lizards are so weak, the game has to go perfectly good for them and they still can only *barely* win. I think the Favor cards really help them out if you can pull them off, but most people don't like them and use the Partisans deck instead. I hope they get buffed in more ways than just the setup.
I think at this state they are okay! They are definitely bottom tier but I’ve found they can be quite a problem for other factions which I love. The cards matter a lot though for sure
Woooo I hate that VG player, but totally enjoy watch the game!!
How does dom swaping work in table top games?
When dominance cards are discarded they are supposed to be set in an open supply. At any time during your turn your can discard a suited card for dominance of the same from the open supply. Or discard a wild for any of them :)
Lizard noob, could you elaborate why at 30:40 having that fourth guy was more important than scoring the foxes?
Mostly trying to point shade and not seem as large of a threat. Also i wanted to beef up that clearing to deter any attacks
thumb up and let's go!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video. Jerk vagabond keeprushing is just one of the most rude things you can do in Root.
What’s the best way to play Root online? I’ve seen it in the apple store but also heard some people just buying it online.
Join the woodland warriors discord (google it) and you can find TTS games or Digital games!
TBH if you go for my fort when I'm cats on turn one I would just alt-F4 out, or spend the entire game making sure you lose.
What's the vagabond need exactly?
Hmm?
@@LordoftheBoard nerf*** auto correct these days. Smh
@@JAMman It's not an official nerf, but Despot Infamy means they only gain 1VP for each battle in which they remove enemy pieces.
Yeah, that ranger.... I like the ranger. I think it's a good vagabond. But man do people give it and badgiter a bad name with the absolutely rude moves. Very narrow thinking, because the moves aren't even that good. You essentially eliminate a player, which is someone you need to check other militants, and out your intentions to the entire table so that they all turn against you. Yes, ranger, hadgebadge, and the flying squirrel of death, are very aggressive vagrants, but you can play aggressively and still play fair. Poor badgers can't even get hired to help in battles because no one trusts them.
Vagabond is just so OP, easily the worst designed faction in the game. Despite being sent to the woods 4-5 times they almost won. Infamy is just way too overpowered, really everything they do is just way too much, there's very little they can do that doesn't give them points... Meanwhile, nobody benefits from attacking the vagabond.
The despot infamy nerf is great
Dunno why people compelement cat player.He went full rage vendetta on vagabond instead of trying to score point which is the point of the game and waste an hour of time for vendetta in video game lol.
Root is more than just scoring points. It’s also a conversation. The vagabond taking cats out lets other factions grow super powered. And in the end neither player wins because table balance was disrupted by a player wanting to get 6 points and knock out a player from the game. If the cats had scored points even after that they would have had a hard time getting back into the game. People are complimenting the cats because they didn’t just quit and ensured the VB didn’t win after pulling that move. Also at live tables the VB is nerfed and in tournaments. So digital we live with the Broken VB still
@@LordoftheBoard So if u get angry by someone u should just attack them whole game?I neven said Vb made amazing move,but cats went berserk for entire game.And this game shows main problem of root Cats and Lizards being weak and easy to disrupt,while VB can get hammered whole game and still almost win.
@@user-ly5oo2hd7p no it’s not always the right move. But in this cats since it’s digital the cats were probably showing VB that doing greedy plays like that towards cats throws the table off.
It is a highly asymmetric negotiation game. When you confine it to digital weird things happen.
It sounds like root may just not be your style of game. But to me this was a blast and was peak content haha.
@@LordoftheBoard I like root alot,but games like this shows that it has problems with setup and balance and kingmaking for sure.For lizard cult games like this are fun ofc,coz it is about the only way they ever win,coz of their slow nature.
@@user-ly5oo2hd7p I would have to respectfully disagree. Only because I’ve seen so many tournament games. And lizards have won games with pro players. I think sure this can help but it’s not the majority of the way.
Also yes kingmaking is inherent in the design. It’s a positive for me. Good for storytelling.
At 38:02 why did the game say VB has to damage 3 items?
At that time stamp I said 1 hit?
Exactly, the roll was 0-0 with Commander’s +1, that should be only 1 hit, right?
Did a bug win you the game?
@@northabbot7116 I don’t believe they took that many hits. They didn’t mention having too. It’s possible. But the text in the current game has been bugging with the new release. I remember checking their backpack and nothing seemed off from what I could tell
@@LordoftheBoard It could be just the dice roll seemed wrong from your point of view, but the VB definitely damaged 3 items.
I believe your whole game came down to that roll 😂 which in game seemed to be 2-0
Rude VB
Rude VB indeed
noob cat
imma say it.. i dont get it.. the game is to win? legit its a war game.. why is he just non stop talkina bout how horrible it was for the ranger to do that. the game is to win.. thats it, its a good thing he did that cause he trying to get that W
Total - that’s always the goal. However as we see here. They were in the forest most of the game because of that decision. And they didn’t even get the W. They could have played it better. Usually turn one keep helps other factions rise up. And if they score faster than you you just shot yourself in the foot - had a boring forest game and the cats have a boring game. But yeah the game is to win. It’s just turn one keeping is like my least favorite way for people to attempt to win
The thing we have to consider here is that Root is an assymetrical POLITICAL game at its core.
That's right, its not just a war game, but a game where you need tabletalk and some degree of charisma to be able to get an advantage.
Table talk makes or breaks a game session.
To sum it up, the player that gets punished by other players the most will lose (generally) and the player that carries on with his or her plans unnoticed or without too much intervention will almost always win.
It is true the objective of the game is to win it by outscoring your rivals, but, as LOTB already stated, there are smarter ways to do it. Going full aggro turn 1 or 2 will almost always net you hate from the affected faction and they will make sure you lose the game.
VB could have explored ruins and aided the first couple of turns, crafting here and there, and THEN turning hostile at the 15 VP mark so they get a chance to win. All factions are nearly the same, you need a balanced board and some alliances to be able to get the win. Its impossible for any single player to keep all other 3 factions in check simultaneously, hence why you need the help from others.
Btw, Im a huge fan LOTB!!! love your content. I hope I get to play Root with you someday!!!
I'm gonna agree with LotB on this one. If you take out cats early like this, they will most likely struggle to win and therefore won't have any reason to sink their game just to stop you. If a player does this sort of thing to me, I will make sure they don't win. Not because I'm petty but because it is important for people to understand that in Root, early player elimination has consequences. Player elimination is encouraged in Risk (which is why I don't enjoy that game) but if you do it in Root, that player will be around all game to exact revenge.
Mutual assured destruction isn't a good winning strategy.
@@View619 Of course not. Mutually assured destruction means if you kill me, I'll kill you back, the mere threat of retaliation is what prevents the first strike. The USSR and USA didn't engage in nuclear war because of MAD. If the Vagabond player knows I don't tolerate that sort of thing in my games, they'll think twice before killing me keep. I want this policy of mine to be well-known to all. If you take out my keep like this Vagabond did, you will not win and I will make sure of it. That's how you utilize the threat of MAD in a strategically smart way.