Epidemiologist Rates 10 Zombie Virus Movies And TV Shows For Realism | How Real Is It? | Insider
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- Tara Smith rates the realism of viruses in zombie movies, how they spread and infect characters, and their cures. Would lab technicians be responsible for the catastrophic leak of the T-virus in "Resident Evil" (2002)? Would an individual test a vaccine by infecting themself with a lethal pathogen, as Brad Pitt does in "World War Z" (2013)? And would the authorities shut down a building as quickly as in "Quarantine" (2008)?
Smith looks at the development and spread of rabies-like viruses in "The Crazies" (1973) and the rage virus in "28 Days Later" (2002). She looks at the realism of virus side effects in "I Am Legend" (2007) and "Z Nation" (2014-2018). She also analyzes the mutated form of mad cow disease seen in "Zombieland" (2009).
Do any viruses exist that behave in the same reanimating way as the wildfire virus in "The Walking Dead" (2010-)? Does climate change have any impact on a virus' spread, such as in "Cargo" (2017)? And how do Cordyceps-style fungal infections actually spread, as seen in "The Girl with All the Gifts" (2016)?
Smith is an infectious disease epidemiologist at Kent State University College of Public Health. She has published two papers on zombies and infectious diseases, specialized in plagues and pandemics, and coedited a book on Ebola.
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Epidemiologist Rates 10 Zombie Virus Movies And TV Shows For Realism | How Real Is It? - Zábava
I'm disappointed that they don't call real zombies to break down the scenes.
I know right
Hahah so funny!
Mostly knowing that at least 70 million zombies voted for Trump, there are a lot of them available out there
I know, Insider is so specieist.
Are you high on dope and drugs? Zombies are fiction. Not real life.
Insider.... you have 6Million + subs.... you could afford to send the lady a decent microphone
😂😂😂
I got a few minutes in, liked Dr. Smith and was interested in the info and her opinions/takes on the fiction.
The audio fluctuating between barely there and squelches.. became a chore to try and understand her.
It'd be cool if they provided her some basic equipment for essentially creating their content for them; then let her take a crack at another thing she's interested in.
The fact they could only get someone from 2nd rate state school in Ohio says a lot about their budget. (It's my alma mater😅)
@@tfgrrl2042 Weird flex but ok
@@christianswift4469 not a flex, it's a mediocre school, but (and here's your 💪) I got my degree and had 0 student loans.
Crazy she did this while underwater.
Damn beat me to it lol
My God, i laughed so hard at this comment! :D
I read that as, crazy she did this while in underwear.
@@fynkozari9271 I can never talk about viruses unless I'm going commando
Bravo...
My dad suddenly developed an aggressive throat cancer. Started as a very small bump on the side of his neck, but he hated going to the doctor and it wasn’t until it started growing and causing pain that he finally went and they realized it was cancer. From the time the first symptoms showed to the day he passed was under 8 months as best as we can tell. However, looking back at pictures from that time period, his German Shepherd started getting very interested in that particular spot of his neck. He would smell and lick at that spot, which a short time later turned out to be exactly where the cancer was. His dog isn’t trained to detect any specific scents, he just happened to notice that there was a new smell in that spot that he didn’t recognize. Had we been able to recognize that sign, my dad might still be here. But, at the time it just seemed like he was showing affection and happened to like smelling and licking at that spot. It kind of blew our minds once we actually realized that he caught it long before we ever did, but dogs can be pretty amazing like that.
Your dog is amazing and I am so sorry for your loss
My mother had a very aggressive form of small cell cancer. She thought she had the flu. After about a week, when the symptoms weren't getting any better, she went to the hospital, where they discovered she had cancer. She died 3 days later.
@@PalmelaHanderson Wow, that’s awful. I consider 8 months to be pretty fast moving and aggressive but 10 days is something else entirely. I’m sorry for your loss and I wish you and family the best.
Dogs are amazing and yes can smell a lot of biological changes.
Who asked???
“We used to do these experiments on prisoners and orphanages” “it’s very difficult to get prisoners now” where are the orphans...
Yeah, the prisoners, orphans, religious minorities, mentally disabled, racial minorities, small isolated communities, homeless people, soldiers, and ?????. I love how ANIMAL testing is what is unethical and politically incorrect. Poor rats. Hope they never become zombies. 🐀
Well either we've solved all of lifes problems leading to orphans or they're still easy to get for experiments. :P
Today it's even easier: the guinea pigs are lining up and begging to be experimented upon. Just invent a "pandemic" and tell them they're getting "vaccinated".
@@constancemiller3753 In venom, they did tests on mentally disabled.
@@constancemiller3753 I mean....they can ALL be immoral and unethical at the same time. But I get what you mean about the priorities.
Any time I see a death cart I always hear in my head “bring out your dead! Ding ding! bring out your dead!” “But I’m not dead yet!”
Monty Python was impactful on young me...
Lmao that movie never gets old I love it 😂😂
You and me both :-)
“Oh shut up, you will be soon so what’s the difference?” 😂
Me and the boys living in Greenland: "In terms of viruses, we have no viruses"
Plague Inc. Reference
... you are a truly an entity of culture
Me living in Madagaskar: "You have no power here!"
@@shieldde6209 is Madagaskar hard to infect in plague Inc. becouse i only had problems with cold climate areas ?
more like u do there is COVID 19 rn
@@andrewkerr8829 🤔
Evolution of CZcams Ads.
2010: No ads.
2015: Skip ads.
2018: Skip ads after 5 seconds.
2020: Video will play after ads.
2030: Video may play
2040: Video unavailable, watch ads.
2050: CZcams renames AdTube".
2077: Only Ads
@@rogermon3s141 "In 2077, what makes someone a criminal?"
*reloads shotgun with malicious intent*
"excessive ads"
I'm getting ads about every 2-3 minutes including a 4 minute long Bollywood music video. The iPad I'm on can't even use an AdBlocker app.
Buy the product in the ad to watch the video..
CZcams Vanced.......
I'm trying really hard to figure out if that's a Zoom background or her actual background
Shes in a submarine
@@santiii4292 Obviously
Audio is so bad though
they had better microphones in the 1920s
If it is, she could've definitely chosen a much better one.
To be honest I've always thought 28 days later's non-existent incubation period made it less scary. Like, it would be super easy to identify dudes with rage virus and stop them. Imagine if they invisibly spread it like Covid, and after a week or so suddenly became psychotic.
Not really non- existant incubation is the scary part, what are you going to do if your in a stadium and 1 infected runs in 20 mins later you got 64000+ infected
@@TheSILENTBOB180 Yes but it is impossible for a Virus like that to effectively spread to more than a few places. An infected like that can only really travel by foot which is extremely ineffective. It can't travel by plane or train or car.
@@oskarmartin6486 Yup. An outbreak would be catastrophic for the local population, but could be contained using conventional bombs and the military. Also, further outbreaks would be easier to contain as people would know what they are dealing with. Most zombie movies also greatly underestimate the capabilities of a modern military to the point that they are incompetent boobs.
@@oskarmartin6486 train to Busan though 😅 all that has to happen is for one to slip in before the train starts moving. Also 28 weeks later gives us the possibility of carriers so I wouldn't underestimate how far such a virus could spread.
@@mrsmopsi9333 Trains usually don't move by themselves. The initial outbreak is not the problem for an "instant virus" the problem comes when everybody and their mothers know about that virus so trains won't be running and planes won't fly in a matter of hours. So while such a virus would work well if the initial outbreak was in a populated area, once it has to cross large distances it inevitably fails. If the virus has an incubation period it could be halfway around the world before anybbody notices
"I study infectious diseases and have long been interested in zombie infections"
I think, we all agree that we will NEVER piss that lady off, right?
Shout out to the Doc for saying how good Max Brooks' World War Z is
Literally my favorite contemporary fiction book. The sociopolitical commentary is so impressive
Zombie breaks down zombie scenes from movies “I don’t groan cause I don’t breath.. I’m dead”
Till 2020: Realistic zombie virus movies and tv shows
From 2020: Realistic life with viruses
I'm just glad running zombies wont happen cause the body will decompose fast
Running "zombies" are actually the most possible (the 28 Days Later kind) since it's just intensified rabies with extremely shorter incubation periods.
@@ClarenceSampang probably but as she said, even with someone with rabies has no chance of living, they would die from the disease.
If the virus also attacks the bacteria that cause decomposture, that can could preserve the corpse.
@@ulfjohnsen6203 pretty sure that’s not how it works. You’re thinking of World War Z, but that’s not possible, since a virus is tailored to a specific species of animal or something. Like the bacteriopage, which was mentioned here, can only target one specific bacteria/a small family of bacteria, but not humans, since they are tailored to attack one species. Of course there are diseases that can cross between other animals and humans, but they can infect only some types of mammals, but not bacteria, since bacteria and mammals are very different things. Also even if a virus could do that, the virus can’t prevent cells dying, and a whole lot of other problems. What you’re talking about just isn’t how things work
@@exemplariness you just had to ruin my dream of fighting zombies...
You should check out Train to Busan.
I mean not to review it for rating, just to watch. Really good zombie movie.
Thank you! I've always said that when talking to people about zombies. Especially with seasonal changes the bodies would continue to decompose with no blood flow. So after a year or two they would be piles of mush with snapping jaws
What do you mean by snapping jaws? They wouldn't be able to move their muscle without some special chemical only the brain(which is dead) produces.
These shows always explain that whatever mechanism reanimated them also slows or halts decomposition, and sometimes decomposition doesn't necessarily even stop them until the brain completely decays. Resident Evil showed the T-Virus reanimating skeletons so that virus has a form of cellular regeneration in addition to reanimation.
And of course in the case where it's demons the mechanism doesn't matter because it's demon magic.
"Bring out yer dead!" "I'm not dead" "I'm getting better!" "Can you hang around a couple minutes, it won't be long"
She said "Pitt" like they take the same bus
Ikr
Filmed on a Nokia 5210 brought back from the dead I think.
I swear that last zombie that chatters his teeth in World War Z... dude playing that deserves an oscar
The way she smiles when talking about horrible death is creepy but you can tell she's loves what she does
Well I think the reason she smile is because she's cringe by the scenes
Where is Train to Busan?😭
I would be interested in seeing Tara Smith react to the game “Plague Inc” or even do a stream playing “Plague inc” or similar game.
Wear a 😷!
Are you telling people to wear a mask in general or telling her to wear a mask?
@@jimmytweedale2191 telling everyone :’3
This should be everywhere.
No
You Are Brainwashed 😂😂😂😂
yeah i kind of assumed when i clicked on this that nothing would be a 10 cuz there's nothing we can compare it to. "oh this was nothing like the zombie outbreak of 1650" or whatev
Who else thought of the Bring Out Your Dead scene in Monty Python when she was talking about the people getting carted off and then waking up.?
Don’t jinx us we are almost done with 2020
2021: the sequel
2020: The Tutorial
2021: well well well
It was just getting started
Usually I'm all for the guests to give a 10/10. This time though.. I'm happy for the scores!
Me: has a massive fear of zombies
Also me: watches a video about zombies, and finds it interesting.
Me, at 3am: REGRETS!
Well let’s just say, a zombie apocalypse can happen, and there’s diseases in labs out there that can create that. So I’m guessing you won’t be very useful due to you being a scaredy cat.
@@nuclearskies.7137 Yes, I wouldn’t be very useful in a zombie apocalypse.😂
However, I wouldn’t use the saying “scaredy-cat” because my fear developed due to trauma (I know that sounds ridiculous, but it’s true).
@@LordBummenbachsBalls oh I’m sorry for that comment, I was intending on just messing around I wasn’t serious about you being a scaredy cat or anything, zombie apocalypses are somewhat scary though, it could simply happen any minute.
@@nuclearskies.7137 Don’t worry, it’s all good. My friends joke about it all the time. Tho, you know, fear is a good thing. If there was a zombie apocalypse and I had a baseball bat with nails in it, I would go and whack them across the head, and that would be therapeutic😂.
Would have been interesting to hear her view of the film "Outbreak" from 1995.
You rated zombieland...... I love it!
This was wonderful. Thank you Tara!!
Imagine if we had a zombie movie or video game like the last of us where a fungus took years to kill off the host, meaning they would have white fungal patches on their skin, the sweat glands would be spore launchers, the host would grow blooming protrusions and hard fungal lumps from a mix of fungus and the body's ability to produce bone, creating a bone-fungus hybrid as an armour of sorts. The body would soften at some places, harden like stone at others, and morph the host into an abomination.
Like a piece of bread going mouldy they would literally just deteriorate into a rotten corpse but be alive while it happens it would cause immense pains, cramps and burning feelings at points as the victims disintegrate and at this point are completely sane despite already looking like a zombie. Due to eventually "blooming" and launching spores infecting others for a few days a month they would be exiled from their communities at a certain stage and left to fend for their own or go insane/be eaten by other fully assimilated victims. The immense pain and the slow deletion of the conscious part of the brain (similar to dementia but subconscious responses like breathing would be left perfectly intact) would create a frantic zombie eventually (think of hollows from dark souls, who are simply people who lost all of their memories but act like zombies) and it would be very tragic and realistic while also explaining some zombie video game tropes. The chances of them having the strength to fight you at all would be low in real life however, so maybe this would instead replace human cells with dense fungal cells rather than eating them.
For example zombies could have tough armour and enlarged muscles and height (which could actually be entirely logical, as maybe in some rare cases the pituitary gland in men could become corrupted and deformed causing it to be over-stimulated and lead to over-production of testosterone and causing puberty multiple times, growing muscle, height and increased aggression, with the rapid growth likely deforming the host, making them like a tank from left 4 dead.). No idea at all what a female equivalent would look like, maybe like a spider they would give birth to dozens of children at once, dying the process, because I'm not sure what useful effect oestrogen would have in being a zombie other than having periods all the time. Maybe they spit acid blood? Or weave webs like a spider?
I agree with the McDoucheface guy. Honestly, I say get to work on writing this. You may or may not be good at like, writing plotlines and stuff, but that idea itself is really good, so you can workshop it. If you do it well enough or get somebody on board who likes the idea, you might even be able to do something with it and make money off of it.
Have you heard of Subnautica? It's basically that kinda concept.
I mean, The Last of Us kind of explores the variation of fungal infection stages on the so called “zombies.” Given that the pathogen in game is a mutation of the Cordyceps disease.
Dude, can I borrow this for a novella?
I always thought a longer incubation period would aid in the spread of a virus, as people would travel and spread the disease before symptoms emerged.
I guess it depends on how the virus spreads. Like if the incubation period is simply the virus/bacteria multiplying in your bloodstream and no other effects occur (like mucus droplets being exhaled when you breathe or spread through other bodily fluids) then all you would need to worry about is the actual infectious/symptomatic period. But if the incubation does cause droplets to be exhaled or can be spread through bodily fluids like that, then the scale of infection would be much larger.
The inroll ads are starting to get so intrusive that I'm finally moving away to other services.
It's *much* worse than network and cable TV now. Not sure what they are thinking but the golden goose comes to mind.
thanks for the info
To me, the best ever zombie movie of all, was 'The Return of the Living Dead (1985)'. The movie was really scary when I watched it for the first time.
Hilarious punk rock cult classic- love it! 🧟♂️ “Send more cops” 👍🏻
Thank you Tara.
I was happy Cargo got a mention. Am hoping one of these at some point will mention Wyrmwood: Road of the Dead
I really liked that book “Fever 1793”. Good book. I got really into it and I don’t like reading book as a pass time but this book was on point. I recommend it.
Liked the fungus idea. Might have to search that film out. If you do another Insider there's a comedy take on viral infections in Red Dwarf, a British comedy that might be a fun change from the Zombies.
I was so happy to see Z Nation in this. Was sad to hear when they cancelled the show
glad to see a professional who loves the show, she really nailed it "underrated"
At 4:10 she says liquid doesn't turn to gas "like that". When trichloroethylene is exposed to normal air it immediately vaporizes into a gaseous form.
I think she meant growth mediums or bodily fluids that might have contagious microbes don't just magically aerosolize.
Pretty on point about the HVAC system in that lab though. Hilarious they're in Level 4 Biohazard suits, but they just have unfiltered regular ventilation going to the entire building.
@@tfgrrl2042 good point and true.
I feel like Virus related movies will stop being made after 2020
Why??🙁🙁🙁
I highly doubt it
Because its coming to real life
Imagine knowing all of this information, my brain...
I’ve proved my point for years that they wouldn’t be able to move fast, they’re muscles would not work, it would be rotting, but people still told me “what do you mean of course they could run!”
5:09
the teeth popping noise so funny to me idk why
Sadly we do have an exemple of someone alive in a dead body, so we got a pretty good idea of what a somehow animated dead body would be capable of, at the very most you could squeeze an hour or so of proper activity out of the body just after its death, and then it would slowly stop moving. After a day or so, with no medical help, the subject won't be able to move at all.
So if a Zombie apocalypse happens, stay home for a couple days, the problem will most likely be resolved when you come back out.
That fungus basically turns the insect into a zombie.
That could happen to us.
If it mutated then yes
I did a paper on the crazies in college, my theory was containment was lost in the plane somehow, the crew panicked and ditched, the virus got crop dusted over the town and the water supply and where the plane ended up didn't matter because the virus had already been distributed. All and all a good movie and good depiction of realistic infection.
Check out Romero's original. The remake is better (a rare thing), but the original has some great stuff.
Where the heck is the review of I am Legend?
I don’t think they were zombies they are more like vampires like the book
@@Hunter-mj8qg its a kind of vampirism. But not entirely vampire. They are somewhat like mutants
@@user-hw4st7br9a yeah but in the book they are completely vampires
@@Hunter-mj8qg well, she rewieved films , but even in the film they are not realy zombie.
@@unknow11712 I know
Rick would really be upset if he had known all these stuffs 😂
Stuff and thangs
@Night Watcher - KFP operative 'Dark Sun' "im looking for my family"
@Night Watcher - KFP operative 'Dark Sun' cooorallllll"
Im very upset
I remember reading somewhere of a case where someone was infected with rabies and only sought treatment post-incubation period. Apparently they were subjected to an induced coma for several weeks which slowed down the progression of the infection, during which time medication and other treatment was administered and resulted in a successful recovery.
A young teen in Wisconsin AFAIK, she is the only person to have ever survived rabies.
Should have shown I am legend, I had a depiction in which a disease alters behaviour however maintains basic human characteristics of self preservation and instinct, essentially living zombie like creatures, meaning they aren't "walking dead" so it would make sense for them to live years, and it would also make sense for treatment to be possible. Its the kind of movie that I'd be more interested in hearing her opinion about
Yes!! Z Nation is totally underrated!!
good one sharing, Stay connected.
this video made me anxious
i like the fungal form as seen in The Girl With All the Gifts. it is also just a good story.
You should have recommended the movie America 2020 it’s honestly so comical snd realistic
Fun fact: Because of BSE (I was born and raised in England) I'm still not allowed to donate blood in Germany where I live now.
They can't test for CJD?? Wow
When monty python has history right....
I am not dead yet!
resident evil got many virus + plagas but because other virus change them into monsters instead of zombies they only counted the one that makes them zombies, i think they also should rated the range of infection if it can infect all living things it should be rated higher
Do we really want our epidemiologists having strong interests in zombie viruses?!
I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if the world ended and we had a zombie apocalypse 😂
Yes. If this does happen the movie geeks who are epidemiologists could be the ones to save us.
I mean, yes.... but also, no.
I am truly gonna be a survivor when this shit happens, I'm prepared
i can't believe they didn't use scenes from Kingdom. i was actually waiting for that. that's one of the best zumbie shows.
For real!! I love the show so much and I love the origin of the virus as well!
13:05 knowing it`s happening in our real life kinda make me feel legit scared tho
I'm watching all types of videos like these so I can make something that makes sense
I've been currently studying for 2 years
YES! When Z nation got some love I was pumped
I wish she'd talked about the virus from that show. We got to see how it was engineered from 3 different diseases, and I wondered what she thought about that. Greatest show ever!
@@cletusbeauregard1972 ah man I hear you I was a big walking dead fan and after a while it got stale then I found z nation and fell in love with it! It’s such a shame they cancelled it, I know it ended with a pretty decent conclusion but I just miss the characters so much and all the different zombie types it was like a left for dead tv series with a bunch of comedy and some serious shit
I'm more interested in i wonder if military or police quarantine zones can use lethal force on people trying to escape, especially in some militaries that uses kill teams on certain outbreaks
It would be difficult in the US....there are so many guns owned by people
Zombie virus
I'm scared now
Save me
next video: epidemiologist reviews deadly pandemics
I'm getting zombie binge watching advice from virologist.
I enjoyed this video, but was disappointed when I got to the end and she hadn't reviewed Contagion.
Did they not hear her audio and how cloudy it sounds not good quality
Well we are watching a zoom call lmfao
So
Should've skipped World War Z altogether; that movie and the zombies in it are nothing like what max brooks wrote about
The movie by itself is a decent movie, but yeah, compared to the book its trash
Been saying that for years. Met the man at comic con and told there’d be a movie. Fast forward I watch said movie, disappointed to how bad it was handled.
@@captainfactoid3867 The book set such a low bar that saying the movie is trash compared to it really isn't saying much
@@Nyx_2142 wait? The book set a low bar? Definitely not
Z Nation was hilarious. If you love Americana and zombies, you should love that show.
This is cool that they do this
when she was talking about orphanages and prison and the legality she sounded disappointed
I like 28 days/weeks later for its infected premise. Same for quarantine.
I would love to know your take on The Strain. Not zombies, I know, but still…
Maybe one of the best episode
People are scarier than zombies! 🥺🥺🥺
Have I been pronouncing prion wrong this whole time?
Recorded her audio in 1981
Conspiracy people are hating here right now. LOL
I was hoping for Return of the Living Dead to be talked about. I mean the vapors going up in the sky and then it raining, waking all the dead in the cemetery. Good stuff!
Plus most municipal water supplies are treated with either chlorine, ozone or both
Who's gonna tell her that, everyone does infact die and come back in the walking dead, everyone.
Here is the rating of all the movies
Resident Evil 1/10
The Crazies 2/10
Z Nation 2/10
Quarantine 3/10
World War Z 3/10
Cargo 4/10
The Walking Dead 5/10
Zombieland 5/10
The Girl with All the Gifts 6/10
28 Days Later 6-7/10
Zombies are my favourite type of Horror genre
Yeah boy😎😎😎
To bad theirs only one zombie anime but it was canceled
Zombies are my phobia
@@sjsnnwej2601 ???🙁🙁🙁
The fact she said the World War Z book was much better than the movie warms my heart! :) The book is a good as the movie is bad.
The book is typical zombie fantasy bunk and the Battle of Yonkers is a travesty written by someone who had less understanding of modern weapons than a 12 year old who plays Call of Duty.
well i didn't know rabbies was that fatal.
adding it to my list of things that scare the crap out of me...
Rabies is very treatable if you are not an idiot. You should always go to the doctors and get tested for rabies of you are bit by a normally non aggressive animal well really animal actually and Incan take months for you to get symptoms and when you get symptoms is when you have a 100% chance of dying the problem is that if you get the treatment for it you have to get a ton of needles
Just make sure to get checked out if an animal bites you.
Ooooh ha. Ha. Ha ha. Haaa. Yo. U have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE. but I'm doesn't
I love the concept of the video, but her sound and video quality wouldn't let me finish it.
I would love to see him react to "All Of Us Are Dead" such an amazing show
that a crazy scenario a teacher made a virus from mice hormones
Just watched WwZ yesterday night was a really awesome movie and an all time fab of Thee Walking Dead 😎
How did Shaun of the Dead not make the cut?
best explanation of cow rabies
28 days later is my favorite too
Can you do Police Officers Rate Cop Movie Scenes?
So, there was a "zombie"/"virus" movie awhile back....and the intro was 'frozen motion' cameras scenes, where the world was in freeze-frame, but the camera would slowly pull back and reveal more and more in each scene change of the intro. One part of that intro showed a man in a high-rise office, looking at a picture of his family, he was crying, and as the camera pulled back, infected people were breaking through his office door/window and he had just pulled the trigger on a revolver pointed at his temple. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT TF movie that was??? I've looked for YEARS!!!