Roland Juno-60 vs. Juno-106 Vintage Analog Synthesizer battle

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  • (c) 2015 vintage synthesizer demo by RetroSound
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    Roland Juno-60 (1982) vs. Roland Juno-106 (1984) Analog Synthesizer with identical sound programs.
    This video shows the different sound character. The Juno-60 sounds more raw like the JP-8 and the chorus is deeper.
    The Juno-106 sounds more like the JX-8P but with more bass fundament and the chorus is not so deep.
    both are great synths and I love both a lot.
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Komentáře • 290

  • @retrosound72
    @retrosound72  Před 3 lety +8

    The Roland Juno-106 Synthesizer from the year 1984 is a great analog synth with the typical 80s Roland sound. Often in the shadow of the brother JU-60 but the sound is different. Here can you find the full Juno-106 playlist with single sound demos and one synth demo tracks. Enjoy.
    The Juno-106 playlist ----> czcams.com/play/PLe08Lbpy8pPZ1gmLNkYJnvw6IGb8NYlgK.html

  • @jeffc1753
    @jeffc1753 Před 8 lety +80

    I own both and I just can't choose between them. The 60 does have what I would call a "juicier" sub osc. Really nice and squishy. For the 106, I'm reluctant to call it "colder" because of the negative connotations associated with that word. Yes, the 60 is "warmer" sounding, but the 106 is cold in a crystalline beauty kind of way. The 60 is the Sun and the 106 is the Moon. Perfect compliments. The JX-3P is also spectacular in its own right; to me it completes the Triforce :)

    • @epicon6
      @epicon6 Před 14 dny

      I’ll help you out. The 106 is not cooler or crystaline.. The Juno 106 sounds cheaper like a toy synth.

    • @jeffc1753
      @jeffc1753 Před 14 dny

      @@epicon6 Synth snob

    • @epicon6
      @epicon6 Před 13 dny

      @@jeffc1753 Synth knob

    • @jeffc1753
      @jeffc1753 Před 13 dny

      @@epicon6 Because I like the Juno 106? You have some serious issues to bully someone over something as innocent as that.

    • @epicon6
      @epicon6 Před 13 dny

      @@jeffc1753 Yea

  • @moogdome2562
    @moogdome2562 Před 5 lety +70

    The world would be a better place if we all played Synths. We wouldn't have time for war and destroying the planet. Only problem is. This guy has all the Synths, and wants to rule the world. it;s his masterplan. great vid Master.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 5 lety +2

      Amen bro Amen.
      thank you

    • @moogdome2562
      @moogdome2562 Před 5 lety +2

      Thank you. Love your videos. great stuff well done. I'm a huge fan.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 5 lety

      :)))))

    • @charltonkelly5426
      @charltonkelly5426 Před 4 lety +1

      This guy is actually the inspiration for "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" by Tears for Fears. That's why they use so much synths in it!

  • @devicefactor2290
    @devicefactor2290 Před 7 lety +4

    I feel and believe the 106 has more of a digital synthwave sound too it which fits more in line with what we "think" when we picture 1980s flash, style, fashion, glitz, neon, grids,cyberpunk etc etc. the sound goes in tandem with that. and less of the analog warmth of pre 80s that the Juno 60 emits more of.

  • @almazmusic
    @almazmusic Před 8 lety +106

    You should lower the gain on Juno-60 because it's much louder than Juno-106 and due to that they sounds very different.

    • @sounddoctorin
      @sounddoctorin Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah I was just dealing with a guy who thinks the 60 is much 'thicker' for that obvious reason. Heck they both have the same basic DCO design and filter parts and chorus pretty much..the EG is the main difference right? Probably there are different interstage caps here and there etc. but adjust the controls and you will get roughly the same sounds as the stepping is pretty good on the digital eg's on the 106.

    • @tomasmulcahymusic
      @tomasmulcahymusic Před 5 lety +9

      Agreed. The tuning is different too. For a fair comparison both these synths need the internal calibration done so all oscillators and filters are set equally.

    • @oriomenoni7651
      @oriomenoni7651 Před 4 lety

      The sound of the 106 is much thinner and no volume boost can help with that.

    • @grungebox
      @grungebox Před rokem

      @@oriomenoni7651 Yes, I had a 60 and my friend bought a 106. The 106 was stiffer. That all said and done, the 60 sounds superior in all areas. Though, I'd play the 106 if I had one.

  • @markthomas6794
    @markthomas6794 Před 9 lety +17

    I have a 106 sitting directly above a 60 and I did this exact comparison just a few weeks ago. The raw DCOs sound completely identical. And overall you can tell that the two synths are very, very close but the 106 sounds more 'glassy' and the 60 sounds a little more 'crackly' to my ear. The 106 also has the bass boost on the HPF, which is very obvious when trying to mimic sounds on both.
    They both sound beautiful but different enough that I feel that I'd miss either of them.
    Side note: I also had a JP6 for several years (sold it last spring) and I never loved it like I loved either of these. It was easier to fit into a mix but as an instrument I was simply never inspired by the sound. If Roland would've put the same chorus and bass boost on the JP6 that the 106 has I'm confident that it would be a classic like the JP8. Anyway...

    • @danalexpiano
      @danalexpiano Před 5 lety

      Seems like you need good control monitors, sorry.

  • @kevinmassonmusic9442
    @kevinmassonmusic9442 Před 4 lety +8

    I had them both, the juno 60 was always the best of them. It was the midi that gave 106 advantage. Great video, memories....

  • @gandolphcarter
    @gandolphcarter Před 9 lety +12

    Those both sound beautiful to me.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +2

      +gandolphcarter both are great synths. agree with you.

  • @jugglerjoe
    @jugglerjoe Před 4 lety +8

    Deeper sound from the 60. But both sound exquisite.

  • @5dgisd528
    @5dgisd528 Před 4 lety +14

    Apart from the sound, I think the Juno-60 is much nicer looking, in fact one of the most beautiful synthesizers.

  • @freebreeze9042
    @freebreeze9042 Před 8 lety +17

    Why do I like the 106 better? The 60 is a little richer, but the 106 sounds somehow more "modern". The 106 sounds a little more open and smooth.

    • @SpacehotelMusic
      @SpacehotelMusic Před 8 lety +1

      I like the 106 better too, had both and the sound of the 106 is beautiful. The 60 is a bit rough sounding at times when you don't want it to be.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před 5 lety +1

      Same here. The 106 sits much better in the mix and doesn't require as much EQing.

    • @jussivalter
      @jussivalter Před 4 lety

      "106 sounds somehow more "modern"" "The 60 is a bit rough sounding" Excuse but isn't it just what people want with these vintage synths = richer, rough and not modern sound. 60 has absolute better vintage sound and it's more analogish. If you want a clean and modern sound, go with the DCO or virtual analog synths.

    • @lownrgy
      @lownrgy Před 4 lety +1

      Juno 106 sounds like every plugin wish to sound, that is why you see 106 in every professional studio

    • @anoniconoclast2030
      @anoniconoclast2030 Před 4 lety

      @@jussivalter Because in person the 106 while having plenty of vintage juice, sounds farther back and distant. You get the best of both worlds without even trying. I have both and love both. The 106 sounds modern but still sounds better than most modern synths. The bass depth on the 106 is deep and wide, on the 60 it's snappier. Two 106's together: the strings pour like honey. The strings on a 60 have that Jupiter 8 like gloss and sheen. But even with one 106 I can get the Sixes and Sevens Robert Plant sound.

  • @james.tupper
    @james.tupper Před 5 lety +8

    106 sounds smoother. 60 has a bit more analog bite to it. I prefer the 106.

  • @myshelby500gt
    @myshelby500gt Před 3 lety +3

    Finally i have just been able to purchase a Juno 106 after many years of trying and watching this video years ago that hooked me .
    Thank you and the 106 sounds beautiful.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 3 lety

      Great to hear!

    • @myshelby500gt
      @myshelby500gt Před 3 lety +1

      @@retrosound72 by the way the Juno 60 sounds huge and wonderful maybe one day.
      Keep up the great work and effort you put into all your uploads it's greatly appreciated

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 3 lety

      @@myshelby500gt thank you so much for the Feedback.

    • @myshelby500gt
      @myshelby500gt Před 3 lety +1

      @@retrosound72 :) your welcome

  • @musicmakelightning
    @musicmakelightning Před 8 lety +5

    Why did I ever get rid of my old 106? Well, I remember now. The pots got dirty and I didn't have the wherewithal to clean them at the time and once the battery went dead and it lost its mind, I couldn't recover it. As I remember, you could save patches off line via some sort of taping mechanism (some modem/sound to cassette kind of thing). And I never saved any of the patches to tape. But for 8 years I it was with me on various "stages" in various dive bars on the New Jersey coast. Thanks for the memories!

    • @copheart
      @copheart Před 6 lety +1

      Which bars in which towns?

  • @polyneux74
    @polyneux74 Před 8 lety +4

    I love all of these comparison videos you do! I've owned both of these machines but now just have a Juno-6. I've always loved these synths for their individual characters but I lean heavily towards the 60 although, one thing I really enjoyed about the 106 is it always seemed to have a little better definition in the bass. Loved them both...and my 6. :) Great videos! and THANK YOU!

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +polyneux74 agree with you. both are great synths with own character.
      thank you!

  • @davidsimons1377
    @davidsimons1377 Před 4 lety +3

    I currently have a Kiwi 106 . I've owned 2 x Juno 6's in the past. Some differences: The 6 /60 have an extra modulation mode in that the PWM can be modulated by the envelope, which is not on the 106. It also has the arpeggiator and the 2 chorus speeds can be used simultaneously, neither available on the 106.
    On the other hand the 106 has Midi by default, poly-portamento and a powerful facility where you can have all 6 DCO's in unison. This is unlike running 6 vco's in unison because the digital control locks them so tightly that they give a unique fat sound, great for lead or bass, but interesting to play polyphonically by harmonising or sampling!

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 Před 3 lety

      Nice, I am going Kiwi myself and the 106 voice chip cleanse process. VST’s sound nice these days and all that noise but the real thing just feels so good and I don’t need the computer. If I had to purchase a 106 in today’s market perhaps I would stick with a Cherry VST or something of the sort but I am much happier combining the real deal with my outboard effects and other midi gear before hitting the Digital world. I must admit that the VST’s have pretty much caught up in details and sound quality; obviously surpassing features and functions. Kiwi really brings things up to speed and keeps me from selling a load of vintage gear because there are some crazy good units to choose from in the modern world. The Juno just looks , feels and sounds so familiar it’s hard to resist loving it despite the quirks.

  • @synthartist69
    @synthartist69 Před 7 lety +70

    Attention Roland!! Bring back the Juno 60!! No wait, if they did it would only have 12 mini keys on it and be the size of a smart phone.... nevermind, bad idea....

    • @redirishmanxlt
      @redirishmanxlt Před 7 lety +11

      +synthartist69 - People used to say, "when is Roland gonna make another Jupiter-8 or SH-101" And so they mocked us and made these little silly things the size of a shoe box that don't even have proper MIDI.

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Před 6 lety +3

      redirishmanxlt they do sound great though.

    • @danalexpiano
      @danalexpiano Před 4 lety

      Spazzoid Studio you mean those digital ones?

    • @flexliv
      @flexliv Před 4 lety +3

      And they did... "The Juno 60 was re-imagined and re-released by Roland in 2019 as the JU-06A" (4-voice though, should be 04a)

    • @synthartist69
      @synthartist69 Před 4 lety

      @@flexliv That thing sounds ok and looks great, too bad it wasn't full size with at least 6 voices.. ugh

  • @lownrgy
    @lownrgy Před 6 lety +3

    Thank you for a great comparison video, made my decision very easy. Happy with 106 which is different than anything else, because it fits every time.

  • @151BSSG
    @151BSSG Před 7 lety +3

    the juno 106 always took my heart, it was made on cheaper budget than a 60 and it made great sound for its price, i just like the way it sounded, it kinda sounded less warm but it was so different from the rest. Dont hate me but i like the juno (6/60/106) series more than jupiter series

  • @moogdome2562
    @moogdome2562 Před 5 lety +7

    The Juno 60 sounds more richer and powerful than the 106. to my ears. I have the 106.Sound different.

  • @gunjabeans
    @gunjabeans Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for the vid. Very nice playing and sounds. It's really not possible to pick a favorite but in general I find the Juno 60 deeper and the 106 more present. They are both ridiculously spacey sounding synths.

  • @Wimpie1515
    @Wimpie1515 Před 8 lety +16

    I have my Juno-60 since 1983. Still in perfect order. I would never part from it! That sound, that filter. Awesome.

    • @grungebox
      @grungebox Před rokem

      wish i still had mine from the same year. :(

    • @Wimpie1515
      @Wimpie1515 Před rokem +1

      @@grungebox Thanks to you I saw this comment, it´s 7 years old... and my Juno is still going strong 😊. Next year she will turn 40...

  • @PeachBeach
    @PeachBeach Před 8 lety +1

    the full chorus on either of them is the sound of heaven. so dreamy

  • @marstegreg
    @marstegreg Před 8 lety +4

    Juno 60 for me. It has a nice warm sound.

  • @infindebula
    @infindebula Před 6 lety +4

    Pretty good comparison! There are definitely sonic differences, but it’s not the night-and-day differences the nerds like to argue. Almost every patch here could be manipulated with a little EQ to sound like the other synth.
    I have a 106 and I just had an opportunity to buy a Juno-6, but I think I’m not going to bother.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 6 lety

      thank you :)

    • @donscaptvideo
      @donscaptvideo Před 6 lety +1

      Well, As this is a nicely produced clip, I feel the need to comment that it is BORING. Not only is there NO one letting the viewing audience know what the heck you are trying to do--just playing 3 chords was Nothing to me . WHY, ? Because I have owned both synths while I was ON THE ROAD GIGGING F/T. I always, and still do, think the Juno 60 had more bite, more BALLS than the 106 ! I only bought UP, so i thought, only because of he MiDi connections. The 106 still sounded cheezy even w/ the bells & whistles added. I wanted a ballzy synth to perform "JUMP"; the Finale Countdown was another. The Juno 60 always seemed a more heavily built machine. These observations are only MINE. U all may disagree yet, for the $1,100 cash I laid out in '83 for my "60" I had a hellava lot more fun. Thanks for reading me.

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 Před 3 lety

      I wonder if you ever considered putting some overdrive on the 106? Anyhow, yes the 60 is harmonically richer as is.

  • @xCoolUsername
    @xCoolUsername Před 9 lety +7

    Damn the 60 is sounds so full and warm

  • @JordySimons
    @JordySimons Před 7 lety +2

    every now and than i hear similar sounds compared to the d50, i love the roland sound from the 80s!!!!!

  • @iamkeiju6756
    @iamkeiju6756 Před 6 lety +3

    i really love the bass on the 106

  • @stevenbauer7576
    @stevenbauer7576 Před 7 lety +1

    Both lovely synths can't choose.

  • @kriskemp
    @kriskemp Před 6 lety +1

    it's obvious that the 60 has a sub-frequency oscillator that varies between -078 and +135. Despite the modulation impact and the envelope slide quints, the apparent rendering of the wave thumbs remains moot. Judging from a listen to this, the sesame seed dispersion theory appears to be relative to the endoscopic noodle flow.

  • @Thomasringpetersen
    @Thomasringpetersen Před 4 lety +2

    I’m sorry I play mostly guitar and sing. But the juno 60 sounds magical to me. On its own that is. In a production I dont know.

    • @axelfiedel3793
      @axelfiedel3793 Před 3 lety

      It's no mystery why the eighties are actually timeless

  • @leetronix
    @leetronix Před 9 lety +10

    The 60 sound to me seems to have a much richer/punchy deeper sound than the 106. I would have the 60 over the 106 based on what I have just heard on this short clip.

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +1

      +Lee Hayes I've had both and the 106 was much more useful and much nicer to use. Still got the 106. Only thing I prefered about the 60 was the fast punchy arp/envs but for everything else the 106 was the more musical (of course they can both sound very close to each other also but push the 106 and it's a bit sweeter than the 60), the portamento is NICE, the LFO is faster on the 106 and the 2nd poly mode is perfect for fast sequencing. Both good though but the 106 is love the 60 is just nice (for me).

    • @leetronix
      @leetronix Před 8 lety +2

      quarkyzarky Thanks for the feed back. I felt the clip probably did not do the 106 enough justice as it was quite short and you cannot always get a solid sound preview on youtube. I remember them both years ago but cannot remember them in detail. The only Roland I currently have is the Integra 7 which is very nice as a rack mounted synth and a bunch of other top end synths in my music studio. My first synth was the Roland SH101 which was my first synth love and introduction to the sound of electronic synths.

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +1

      Lee Hayes Yeah I've also had an SH-101 (a couple in fact), the JX-3P and Juno 106 remain my favourite of the cheaper Roland analogs (out of all Junos, JX's and SH-101). Can't speak of the Jupiters much, never had an 8 sadly but I used a 6 and still preferred the 3P and 106 combo! :)

    • @3OrMoreBones
      @3OrMoreBones Před 8 lety +2

      Dude, take a minuit and listen to the sub oscillator mode, both a beauty.

    • @leetronix
      @leetronix Před 8 lety

      I will I am always open to second opinions and others advice :)

  • @Soundartprojekt
    @Soundartprojekt Před 9 lety +3

    Helo RetroSound - two very great synthi from Roland with many vey great sounds - great Demo - Peter
    Sound Art Project ( Electronic Music )

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +1

      +Soundartprojekt thank you for watching! :)

  • @migueldoliveiracomposer
    @migueldoliveiracomposer Před 9 lety +30

    106 for looks
    60 for sound
    6 for life

    • @drinkinslim
      @drinkinslim Před 8 lety +1

      6 for life? But you can't save any sounds. :/

    • @migueldoliveiracomposer
      @migueldoliveiracomposer Před 8 lety +7

      J-6 is considered the dirtiest of those 3
      More grit = more life
      The dirtier the better
      :)

    • @davemaverick8438
      @davemaverick8438 Před 6 lety +3

      Arent Juno 6 and 60 identical inside except for the memory circuit?

    • @SPAZZOID100
      @SPAZZOID100 Před 6 lety +3

      Miguel d'Oliveira 6 & 60 are the same.

    • @adamziolkowski2549
      @adamziolkowski2549 Před 5 lety

      The 60 IMO, looks better....

  • @mik300z
    @mik300z Před 8 lety +2

    interesting demo marko, thanks! i would have to agree the 60 is a bit warmer but the 106 does have a distinctive sound that is different to the 6/60. it sounds slightly wider in the stereo field even with the chorus off

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +mik300z yes the chorus is very different but both synths sounds fantastic with own character.

  • @TheEquinoxeHD
    @TheEquinoxeHD Před 9 lety +18

    Always prefered sound of 60 over 106, but it doesn't make 106 sound bad :)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +3

      +TheEquinoxeHD agree with you

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety

      +TheEquinoxeHD I had the 60, I prefer the sound of the 106. It's somehow more yeilding. The 60 had faster attack but doesn't sound as open as the 106 (I also prefer the faster LFO on the 106)

    • @hershiekopper
      @hershiekopper Před 8 lety +3

      +quarkyzarky i agree. I have the juno 106 and i find that it sounds lighter and more open than the 60. the 60 is definitely richer but its a bit too dense for me and i think the 106 sits better in the mix of psychedelic style songs with bass, guitar, drums, vocals.

    • @freebreeze9042
      @freebreeze9042 Před 8 lety +2

      +TheEquinoxeHD The 106 is smoother and a tad sweeter. More open and easy on the ears. The 60 gets down with it's almighty envelope. Juno love all the way around.

    • @lownrgy
      @lownrgy Před 6 lety +1

      I found 106 more interesting as it has sound of it's own

  • @novachord1
    @novachord1 Před 2 lety +6

    Great demo! I toured with a band in the 80s that had a 106. I had an OB-8 and DX7; they often preferred me to use the 106 on their songs rather than my OB. They also had an MKS80; really nice setup. Its hard to pick between the 60 and 106; they sound different enough to me, but both appealing. Probably should have both! 😀

  • @EarmonkeyMusic
    @EarmonkeyMusic Před 9 lety +8

    And the 60 just looks so much more badass than the 106. I need one to add to my 106.

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +1

      +JimBobJrJackson Earmonkey I prefer the look of the 106 and the size and feel, have had both. Don't miss the 60. The 60's keybed is a bit on/off too, the 106 feels smoother and more musical.

    • @derrickforeal
      @derrickforeal Před 8 lety

      +quarkyzarky its all in the tweak

  • @kikkirow
    @kikkirow Před 9 lety +2

    I love them both so much. Would really love a juno 60 some time. Sadly they are pretty hard to find nowadays.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety

      +kikkirow yes both are great.

    • @barryrubin2631
      @barryrubin2631 Před 8 lety

      there is a Roland Juno 60 for sale on Guitar Center website
      go to guitar center website...type in vintage synth, you will see it

    • @kikkirow
      @kikkirow Před 8 lety

      It looks really nice! I wish I could afford it but it's $1.1k. They should have more details in there.

  • @athanpas
    @athanpas Před 4 lety +4

    I owned both of these. I bought the 106 because it had better midi. But the sound of the juno 60 was fatter. I like Dark Horseman's comments.

  • @CattyTatty
    @CattyTatty Před 4 lety +2

    Wow...such difference...the Juno 106 sounds like someone but a blanket over the oscillators.

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s true that the dynamics are not as rich and I think this is part to do with the clock and some other circuit differences. I don’t think this video is balanced volume wise and once you put an eq, limiter, compressor, effects on either one things change drastically. The 60 has more lower midrange content which shows up on a crappy phone. Part of the 60allure is more movement in the waveforms. I will stick with the 106 and effects but on its own the 60 is juicy.

  • @colmclarken9354
    @colmclarken9354 Před 8 lety +5

    But....The Juno 60 has an arpeggiator !

  • @drayvelharris8348
    @drayvelharris8348 Před 5 lety +3

    i used both of these and had some bias to the juno 60 but in a blindfold test the 106 is better in almost every way

  • @monsterjazzlicks
    @monsterjazzlicks Před 4 lety +1

    Superb comparison video!

  • @jason-miller
    @jason-miller Před 4 lety +3

    I don't understand how a synth with just one DCO and a sub oscillator can sound so fat while also remaining so smooth. I've tried to dial in patches on other "better" or more advanced polysynths to replicate Juno sounds and it's either too crunchy or harsh or thin or dark. Juno definitely has its limitations, but there is some kind of internal sorcery going on.

  • @bushflyn
    @bushflyn Před 7 lety +3

    Super interesting. Thank you. Interesting at 6.30 the 106 sounds both more wide and full. We are of course all audiophiles splitting hairs here. One reader with a 6 makes interesting comments, I'm just wondering, if we substitute the 60 for a 6, are we on even keel so to speak? I like the cut of your jib!

  • @ymotechnopopfan
    @ymotechnopopfan Před 2 lety +1

    I saw Roland Juno 106 on Miharu Koshi's Performances, Parallelisme and Decadence 120.

  • @matttafakt
    @matttafakt Před 7 lety +3

    Your shirt says it all.

  • @voicedoodpaolo
    @voicedoodpaolo Před 5 lety +2

    I had both. I kept the 60. First analog I ever had and I'll never part with it. That said, the 106 is pretty badass

  • @pennywiser9607
    @pennywiser9607 Před 3 lety +2

    The Yamaha DX7 can’t do this
    That’s why Junos go for $2,000 - $3,000 nowadays

  • @torbenanschau6641
    @torbenanschau6641 Před 9 lety +1

    Wow danke für diesen Vergleich. Was ein Unterschied

  • @AdamTheAd-vanc3d
    @AdamTheAd-vanc3d Před 8 lety +2

    Both very good synths in there own right , thou the 106 doesnt sound as large as the 60 which is obviously due to some diffrences in circuitry. Great demonstration of the Juno's .

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +Adamski Ajull thank you°!

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +1

      +Adamski Ajull And yet in musical terms the 106 has made its way into thousands of released tracks by major artists, don't just listen to bare 1 V 1 tests, use them in music and you'll find the 106 is a much nicer, slightly more flexible instrument with glowing soft tone while the 60 tends towards a more static dustier tone that makes you wish for VCO (Polysix). A polysix + Juno 106 is much better combo.

  • @ryfipassword
    @ryfipassword Před 4 lety +2

    4:30 sounded really close, shoulda went for that "Hey Moon" by John Maus

  • @JUKE179r
    @JUKE179r Před 8 lety +1

    Man... I thought I always wanted a 106 but now I might go for the 60!
    Vielen Dank!

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +JUKE179r haha ;)

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +2

      +JUKE179r I prefered the 106, don't believe all you hear until you try them both. The 60 felt kinda static and basic the 106 feels like honey... I love the 106.

    • @jussivalter
      @jussivalter Před 4 lety +1

      @@quarkyzarky if you want more vintage and analog warm and fat sound, 60 definetly is better. 106 sounds more like modern DCO synths.

    • @project-95
      @project-95 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I have the 6 and agree it sounds more vintage, but I want pads for house & d&b and there's something the 106 does better there, smoother airy pads which I can't quite replicate on the 6. Both sound amazing

  • @NightFlu
    @NightFlu Před 5 lety +1

    Well I wanted a Juno-60 but after this video I need to get both. Juno-60 for solo parts and Juno-106 for melodies and chords behind vocals :)

  • @freebreeze9042
    @freebreeze9042 Před 6 lety +4

    Someone just gave me Jupiter 8 and juno 106. I don't know what these even are, (some type of organ) so if someone would like to have them, they can. 50$ each.

    • @kayzemusic1155
      @kayzemusic1155 Před 5 lety

      Is the offer still up?

    • @carrouseltheband
      @carrouseltheband Před 5 lety

      Is this for real?

    • @romannamor95
      @romannamor95 Před 5 lety

      I will take

    • @tbird7386
      @tbird7386 Před 4 lety

      Seems legit...

    • @saladdays180s9
      @saladdays180s9 Před 4 lety

      I know it's been a couple years, but am curious if anyone purchased the Jupiter 8 and the Juno 60. I have no idea what they are either and thought they resembled the Yamaha PSR something or another I had years back. Figured I'd buy one of them for my nephew as a birthday present. He was heartbroken when the big fat and heavy Yamaha "CS-80" or something like that his parents had was put on the tree lawn at their house. It was defective apparently because whenever they tried to play one of those "chord thingies" and pressed the keys hard, it changed the sound and all types of weird distortions started happening.

  • @MrFricoco
    @MrFricoco Před 9 lety +2

    good demo thanks!

  • @alancurrall
    @alancurrall Před 9 lety +2

    I have the JU-6 & never realised how different they are. The 106 has a 'fizzier' filter that seems to lose some bottom end when the resonance is increased. All three great though.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +4

      +Alan Currall yes the 106 lose the low end when the resonance is increased but the 106 sub bass is fantastic. all classic Junos are fantastic synths.

    •  Před 9 lety +1

      +RetroSound I never heard it this much but the 106 just loses all the oomph it's got when you turn up the resonance, kinda weird... I like the 60's sound more... 106 is way too sharp.

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety +3

      +Alan Currall 106 has WAY MORE bottom end than the 60! please don't judge from this SIMPLE test alone! I've had all the junos too (inc the shitty alphas) and the 106 is the absolute best all rounder. Why do you think Roland made the boutique (ugh) version of the 106 not the 60! The 106 is prolific in released records due to a more yielding, flexible tone with beautiful bass end and shimmering mids, the 60's main coolness is fast envs for fast arps/bass but in real music applications I bet you'd find the 106 far better as an all rounder along with other instruments/guitars in a mix. It also feels nicer (somehow softer and nicer to the touch) and also is sized just right, the 60 is a bit too chunky and retro looking while the 106 looks smart and eye catching.
      I know I've written quite a few counter comments on this video but I feel it's doing the 106 a big disservice because it's not really showing the synths playing to either of their strengths in a musical context. Most of that stuff you hear is chopped out in a mix anyway, but the 106 retains more texture where you need it, more air, more glow. The 60 sounds quite unrefined by comparison and also more static.

    • @alancurrall
      @alancurrall Před 8 lety

      +quarkyzarky Thanks for your words of wisdom on the matter. I look forward to watching your all videos and listening to your prolific recordings demonstrating all the valuable points you've made in these comments.

    • @alancurrall
      @alancurrall Před 8 lety +1

      +quarkyzarky Oh, you're that quarkyzarky! Sorry, I didn't realise. Love your work.

  • @pss-270casio-coremusic.5
    @pss-270casio-coremusic.5 Před 8 lety +1

    Most interesting. Thanks for sharing.

  • @MrLawrence0071
    @MrLawrence0071 Před 5 lety +2

    Isn't any of these 2 used in the track "Love like blood" by Killing Joke? Oh man I miss those days. Best time of my life, the 80-ies. Feel like an old bum today.

  • @sarahwaters4448
    @sarahwaters4448 Před 6 lety +2

    eleven synthz in back . . id keep the j60, j106, and the j8 . . and sell the rest!!!!

  • @rosieclark3661
    @rosieclark3661 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Those filter sweeps Reminds me of watching old 80$ B movies 🍿 on Hulu through the internet for free on my laptop while connected to a flat screen HDMI port before they sold out to big greedy companies like Disney the current owner

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa Před 4 lety

    Did the juno 106 have stereo outputs? I'm under the impression the Juno 60 was a mono chorus. One site says that the 106 has a 'pseudo-stereo'. Thanks.

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 Před 3 lety +1

      106 stereo out

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa Před 3 lety

      @@frankstetka7206 What makes it pseudo stereo?

  • @Bendy2K
    @Bendy2K Před 7 lety +1

    Very useful vid - thanks!

  • @LollarJason
    @LollarJason Před 8 lety +1

    good demo thanks! I have both and like mark thomas below I find you can get the basic oscillator sounds to be identical but once you start tweeking knobs they are a little different. i find similar to mark but instead of "the 106 sounds more 'glassy' and the 60 sounds a little more 'crackly' to my ear" I would describe the 106 as more watery and splashy- particularly when the resonance is oscillating (glassy is good too but might get some to visualize it different than it is) and the 60 is more woody sounding- its noticeable but not dramatic IMO. You can get a passable B 3 sound out of the 60- I have a 50's B3 to compare to and its not quite as good on the 106. One does not stomp all over the other like people claim- big difference is do you want an apeggiator or portamento.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +lollar jason thanks :)

    • @quarkyzarky
      @quarkyzarky Před 8 lety

      +lollar jason Same here (had both still got the 106), I found the 60's tone a bit 'wooden' and dusty which for me was a bit too dated for my music, while the 106 can sound old or newer and fits into a mix much better and can sound a touch more contemporary.

  • @GeorgeDimopoulos
    @GeorgeDimopoulos Před 7 lety +2

    Nice sounds!!!

  • @PHAEDRIDER
    @PHAEDRIDER Před 7 lety

    got both . keeping both, i got midi and warm and arppegiator and ... wellmaybe even warmer. i'll hear it in the mix and adjust

  • @brucec.822
    @brucec.822 Před 2 lety +1

    To me, I like the Juno-60 better. It sounds alot more beefier. A much fuller sound.

  • @Miicrowahvei
    @Miicrowahvei Před 7 lety +4

    106 all the way, thank you.

  • @WAGSU2BE
    @WAGSU2BE Před 9 lety +3

    You should do a tutorials on Take On Me and Time After Time, some classic Juno sounds!

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +1

      +WAGSU2BE czcams.com/video/iKZeJr2dUIo/video.html ;)

    • @grungebox
      @grungebox Před rokem +1

      Did not know this, my band played Time After Time in '84 with my 60 I programmed and it nailed it. Now I know why it sounded so similar.

  • @brettlarson4702
    @brettlarson4702 Před 7 lety +1

    106 crushes it on bass at 6:34. That said, the 60 beats it in all around. seems best to have both as each is leagues ahead of the competition. i have tried all the boutiques and the 60 and 106 live and with very good headphones and ears in my opinion. the boutiques are cool but they just dont have the life a musician needs for writing songs from the heart. Maybe.... who know though just what i have gathered so far

  • @aleromay935
    @aleromay935 Před 7 lety

    hey some advice, do you think i should buy both the 106 and 60 together. as its 2 different tones.. not sure if i should just get the 60?? please help...

  • @infraviolet
    @infraviolet Před 9 lety +3

    Most importantly, the 106 is traditionally cheaper. My first analog poly will probably end up being a 106.

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme Před 9 lety +1

      +Infra Violet I'd get either a Jx3p or Alpha juno if you don't need the sliders. The 106 has voice chip issues which is a PIA.

    • @burnherball-day3382
      @burnherball-day3382 Před 8 lety

      +maccagrabme yea I had to have my 106 chips de resined

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 Před 3 lety

      Years later haha, you have tons of external midi options on the cheap now to control these old digital synths that came without knobs and sliders.

  • @75-020
    @75-020 Před 9 lety +1

    yes !! nice demo !! please do more video like that ;)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety

      +Raw wax more real sound videos or more comparing videos?

    • @75-020
      @75-020 Před 9 lety +1

      +RetroSound More Real sound video with your own preset

  • @maxiroberti8620
    @maxiroberti8620 Před 8 lety

    hi! there was a way to save sounds conbinations on the juno 106....i cant remember...it was with the write a nd manual but i dont know ....can you help me please???

  • @F0nkyNinja
    @F0nkyNinja Před 8 lety +1

    The 60 is prettier to look at. It's just higher quality overall. The components on both the inside and outside. Also, it has PWM to envelope, which the 106 doesn't have. The 60 has an arpeggiator, the 106 doesn't. The 106 has portamento, though. The 60 doesn't. Basically the 106 is a cheaper 60. They cut corners with it to make it as cheap as possible, which includes replacing the filter chips.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před 5 lety

      Define "quality" please. I have fixed a dozen different junos and I would very much like to know what's wrong with the 106 "quality". The IR3109 filter IC is used in both units and the SMD-version of the 3109 sounds exactly the same and runs at the same signal levels. You can use an SMD 3109 via a DIP adapter in a 60 and you won't hear a difference.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před 5 lety

      Also, when speaking about the downsides, please mention the 60's lack of MIDI which can be easily used for arpeggiating the 106.

  • @drecksheep
    @drecksheep Před 9 lety +1

    Schön gemacht,ich mag beide.Sag, was hältst du von den Roland Boutique JU-06 ist das was?Ich finde die Boutique Serie von Roland cool ;-) Mein Fav. ist der Roland Boutique JP-08.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +1

      +drecksheep Dankeschön! :)
      Frag mich nicht sowas! :D ;)

    • @drecksheep
      @drecksheep Před 9 lety +1

      Na dann doch eher was fürs Bücherregal ^^ ;-)

  • @synthscolors
    @synthscolors Před 9 lety +2

    ROLAND Juno 60 / 106 & ANALOG GEAR Lovers... Watch It !
    Definitely Two Great Sounding Synths... With Different Sounds Signatures ...
    In Some Respects... The Juno 60 Reminds Me Some "Greasy, Round & Lush Sounds " Provided By The Roland JX 8/10 & MKS70 ... Perfect For Some Particular Sounding Atmospheres... Filling Up A Mix ...
    The Juno 106... Perfect To Bring A "Complementary" Analog & Filtered Touch To A Given Mix !
    Thumbs Up & Thanks For The "COMPLEMENTARY JUNO(S) ... Comparison ! ;- ) )
    Keep Performing These "Sweets For Ears" ! ;- ) )

  • @redirishmanxlt
    @redirishmanxlt Před 7 lety +1

    Of course the Juno 60 sound better, it has Roland's legendary IR3109 filter. The Juno 106 has 80017a. To put that into perspective here are the other Roland synths that have the IR3109, Jupiter-6, Jupiter-8, Juno-6, SH-101, MC-202, JX-3p.
    Intersting how the SH-101 is the most coveted of the "SH" range, and also the only one that has the IR3109.

    • @overseasterritory8983
      @overseasterritory8983 Před 6 lety +1

      redirishmanxlt the 101 is great,but not sure I'd agree it's the most coveted of the SH's. The SH-5 and 7 sell for a lot more

    • @redirishmanxlt
      @redirishmanxlt Před 6 lety

      I stand corrected, wow! I'm familiar with the SH-02 (plug-out), SH-09 and SH-101, so I though they were all 1 or 2 Osc mono synths. But the SH-5 and SH-7 look pretty bad ass, but of course the SH-01 GAIA is my personal favorite!

  • @w.jamesmeagher7895
    @w.jamesmeagher7895 Před 9 lety

    +RetroSound If I'm not mistaken it looks like your Juno-60 has four toggle switches on the back panel next to the outputs - is that a mod of some sort?

  • @J._Campbell
    @J._Campbell Před 5 lety +1

    Добрый день! Подскажите, пожалуйста, есть ли проблемы с выходом из строя звукового чипа на 60тке, как у 106? Как в целом аппарат по надёжности? Спасибо!

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 5 lety +2

      Привет. Нет, у Juno 60 нет этих проблем. Очень надежный синтезатор.

    • @J._Campbell
      @J._Campbell Před 5 lety +1

      @@retrosound72 Спасибо! Best wishes :)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 5 lety

      :))

  • @fkthewhat
    @fkthewhat Před 8 lety +1

    I adore the sound of the both of them :)

  • @mazedull
    @mazedull Před 8 lety

    Love your vids man! I waste many an hour on them.
    I know a guy asked awhile back, but curious as to what specific stand brand you have here? Looks sturdy and like a one piece twin. thanks for any info!

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      thanks a lot for the feedback.
      that is a normal keyboard stand with two traverses. noname

    • @mazedull
      @mazedull Před 8 lety

      right on, thanks for getting back! Resume intergalactic synth wave travels.

  • @808jacko
    @808jacko Před 8 lety

    hey marko. what kind of mods are righthandside of your j60? i did a chorus input for the 60 and the 106 that is pretty sweet:) so good on the polysix and the logan string as well:)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Korn internal/extermal settings for arp and modulation

    • @808jacko
      @808jacko Před 8 lety

      thx! is there any documentation of the LFO (speed) and modulation mod?

  • @sonofprince4124
    @sonofprince4124 Před 6 lety +2

    Keys a Jammin!

  • @xnonsuchx
    @xnonsuchx Před 9 lety +4

    Juno-106 seems a little dead/dull compared to Juno-6/60...and, of course, the arpeggiator got axed on the 106.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +2

      +xnonsuchx the JU-60 sounds more raw and wild in comparision to the JU-106

    • @100DollarHeadache
      @100DollarHeadache Před 9 lety

      +xnonsuchx Not to mention, PWM by envelope is missing on 106. Can make a very small subset of sync-like sounds.

    • @xnonsuchx
      @xnonsuchx Před 9 lety

      100DollarHeadache - Roland also removed proper PWM from the JX series, which I know irritated many people. It could be 'simulated' using OSC sync, from what I've heard, though.

    • @xnonsuchx
      @xnonsuchx Před 9 lety

      The arpeggiator and "warmness" is one reason I kinda hate that the salesperson talked me into waiting for the 106. The 60 became very hard to find as soon as the 106 came out, and knowing what I know now, I woulda preferred the 60 and paid the ~US$200 for the DCB-MIDI converter.

    • @w.jamesmeagher7895
      @w.jamesmeagher7895 Před 9 lety

      +xnonsuchx Well since you brought it up, if you have a Super JX (JX10 or MKS70), you can now have all the PWM you want (among many other great features) with Fred Vecoven's new Super JX OS and PWM daughter boards. It's a game changer. ;)
      www.vecoven.com/superjx/superjx.html

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon Před 7 lety

    Being able to tell them apart doesn't frankly make me like one less than the other. I wouldn't discriminate too much. If a 106 fell in my lap, I would appreciate having the one with MIDI. If a 60 fell in my lap, I would just as much appreciate having the one that many people prefer. If I must have it with MIDI, I would search for an MD8 or some such DCB-MIDI converter.

  • @pablorosenfeldt2339
    @pablorosenfeldt2339 Před 8 lety +2

    dat shirt!yesss

  • @keithsturgeon3602
    @keithsturgeon3602 Před 8 lety +1

    And the winner is-The alesis micron!Wait. what just happened?

  • @ChrisCebelenski
    @ChrisCebelenski Před 9 lety +2

    Thanks for the video! They do sound different - Like brothers perhaps. The filter is certainly different when the resonance is up high, and the oscillators on the 60 sound a bit less constrained in some way in the 60 over the 106. The chorus sounds about the same. Overall I'd say the 60 is voiced somewhat more vintage and the 106 is voiced more "modern", if you follow me. While they both have that Roland sound, not sure why I would want either today, since the sound is somewhat generic and most of what makes these synths interesting would be lost in a mix. On the plus side - both are immediate to program and really good for somewhat learning the basics while still getting a good sound.

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +2

      +Chris Cebelenski thank you for watching :) indeed the JU-60 sounds more vintage raw and the 106 more "modern" clean.

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass Před 7 lety

    Could you demo unison mode on the Juno 60 sometime?

  • @nicolesproducerpack
    @nicolesproducerpack Před 9 lety +1

    Cool

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety

      +Nicole's Music Producer Pack Channel :))

  • @Amelloc
    @Amelloc Před 8 lety +2

    60!!!!EVER!

  • @mimoochodom2684
    @mimoochodom2684 Před 5 lety +2

    60 is King!

  • @Musicology1975
    @Musicology1975 Před 5 lety +2

    Juno-60 Has Balls Juno 106 smaller balls.

  • @porcelainpussy
    @porcelainpussy Před 6 lety +1

    60 for the win. Much fatter and warm. Not to mention 106 doesn’t have the arpeggiator for the nail in the coffin.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před 5 lety +1

      The 106 has MIDI and you can arpeggiate through it any day. Ever mixed a 60? The 106 is much easier to put in a mix too.

  • @VolcaRock
    @VolcaRock Před 9 lety +2

    sehr informative Gegenüberstellung der beiden Boliden!
    Bei einigen Sounds höre ich nur Nuancen an Unterschieden, bei anderen deutlich mehr (Bass). Weis aber nicht ob letzteres eher an Einstellungen lag. Der 106 empfinde ich insgesamt als gefälliger/weicher gegenüber dem 60.
    Aber ich würd kein von der Bettkante stossen :-)
    PS: Mein 60er bekommt morgen sein neues Herz ;-)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety +3

      +VolcaRock Danke Rob! :)
      Da viele danach gefragt hatten, habe ich beide Junos mal mit identischen und typischen Juno Standart Sounds aufgenommen. Je nach Sound fallen die Unterschiede mal mehr oder weniger groß aus.
      Der 106er klingt weicher und plastikmäßiger, der 60er kerniger und brachialer. Beides sind tolle Synthesizer. Welchen Klang man letztendlich bevorzugt ist wie immer Geschmackssache. Mein Favorit ist der JU-60.

    • @VolcaRock
      @VolcaRock Před 9 lety +1

      Ja, das ist auf jeden Fall ein Klasse Vergleich, wann bekommt man schonmal die Gelegenheit sich da reinzuhören.
      Ich stand damals vor der Überlegung welchen der beiden. ZU der Zeit war der 106er noch deutlich teurer und mit mehr hype versehen. Dafür gab es kaum Auswahl mit externen MIDI-KIts und die waren richtig teuer aber dafür ohne Löten :-)

    • @retrosound72
      @retrosound72  Před 9 lety

      +VolcaRock Und jetzt ist der 60er viel teurer. Alles ändert sich irgendwann. Ich mag beide, man kann auch beide haben. ;)

  • @karlsalocks
    @karlsalocks Před 5 lety +1

    Piano virtuoso.

  • @noiskream
    @noiskream Před 8 lety +1

    Sounds amazing! what's the signal chain/audio interface are you using?

  • @Kalman11111
    @Kalman11111 Před 6 lety +1

    As far as i can hear, the 60 has more depth.