Green Arrow is the UNDERDOG of the Justice League

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Green Arrow has proven to be one of the most underrated yet prominent members of the Justice League in DC Comics. Much of the character's popularity stems from the CW Arrowverse, with shows like Arrow and The Flash. However, many problems with that depiction arise from the blatant comparisons and similarities with Batman, sharing similar villains such as Ra's Al Ghul, the Suicide Squad (comprising Deadshot & Harley Quinn), as well as Deathstroke as a season 2 villain. More prominent adaptations either skip over important elements or give him very little screen time, as seen in the "tomorrow verse" in Green Lantern: Beware My Power. Justice League Unlimited in the DCAU and Young Justice have done the best job of incorporating Green Arrow and Black Canary into the wider DC Universe. It demonstrates how they can stand alongside league members like Superman and Wonder Woman. Injustice 2 also featured Black Canary and Green Arrow in the main game. For the future of James Gunn's DCU, it would be in everyone's best interest to implement the Green Arrow character in some way, shape, or form.
    #greenarrow #theflash #dcu #dccomics #jamesgunn #batman #justiceleague #youngjustice #injustice2 #superman

Komentáře • 340

  • @DarthDread-oh2ne
    @DarthDread-oh2ne Před 4 měsíci +297

    It’s criminal, how live action adaptations always undermine Oliver/Dinah relationship.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před 4 měsíci +5

      To be fair... it wasn't even Dinah in the show. He was with Laurel, cheated on her with her sister Sara (who was actually honestly probably the best person for him except maybe his actual wife, Nyssa)... and honestly kind of thankfully never got with Dinah by the time she was finally introduced. Would've been kind of weird after being with the other TWO Canaries AND being in a committed relationship with Felicity while STILL married to Nyssa, if he hooked up with Dinah.
      Don't get me wrong, I think Felicity is at her best when she's gushing over every hot guy, like Oliver and Ray... and not actually with them... and her and Oliver together mostly kinda suck? Though tbh WAYYYY better than Barry X Iris in The Flash. He had the most chemistry with Caitlin, imo, and Patty after that. And NONE with Iris. Plus, they were effectively brother and sister for like 12+ years? Eugh.
      But anyway, Oliver getting with Dinah after all that? Hard pass. Wouldn't have minded if he didn't get with the other 2 Canaries first, and Felicity and Nyssa... and Dinah was introduced by like s2... but the way they did things? Nah. It's good he didn't end up with Dinah. Or Laurel. And it was good for Sara to not end up with Oliver. She was good for him but he wasn't good for her. I'm kinda glad she ended up with Eva.

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 Před 4 měsíci +7

      That is the second most stable romantic relationship in comics other than Lois Lane and Superman. The Arrowverse never bothered to have Dinah Drake on the screen

    • @space1734
      @space1734 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@hamizanyunos1502 Aquaman x Mera and Arrow x BC are the best relationships in DC

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@Paradox-es3bl Laurel is the younger Dinah's middle name. Dinah's named after her mother, the original Black Canary. The Arrowverse had the younger Laurel go by her middle name so as to avoid confusion to the new viewers with her mother.
      Dinah Drake was the first Black Canary in WW2 and is a member of the JSA, she marries Larry Lance making her Dinah Lance and has Dinah Laurel...at some point Larry passes when Dinah Laurel is young and so the young Laurel is raised by the JSA and later alongside the original 7 helps found the League so that Wonder Woman isn't the only gal on the team at their debut (to Wonder Woman's annoyance.) and JSA history is mirrored. It is Laurel who loves and marries Ollie, not her mom, although Laurel initially believed she was her mom at one point because shenanigans...caused by Flashpoint and initially Silver/Bronze-Age sci-fi weirdness that has now been undone. Dinah Lance, the mother in the Post-Crisis timeline and modified Post-Flashpoint one passed on due to a terminal illness that Supergirl's on the research team for.

    • @tycemo707YT
      @tycemo707YT Před 4 měsíci +3

      Laurel is "Dinah" Laurel Lance. The Dinah introduced later in the show as canary was probably some cop out just to make Canary's name actually Dinah. Imo they should've kept Laurel past S4, her and Oliver were toxic but they should've been endgame​@@Paradox-es3bl

  • @javontemorant4701
    @javontemorant4701 Před 4 měsíci +116

    It's crazy of how Stephen Amell could have been a great comic accurate Green Arrow when you see how cool he really is in real life with his humor or hell, when GA did have humor in the Arrowverse crossovers. He's kind of like Henry Cavill of being more like his character in real life than the media.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +13

      & His appereances in Legends Of Tommorrow Where proof of that, The Episode Star City 2046 was such an amazing Episode

    • @Kalel2.0
      @Kalel2.0 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Plus hes stated that he wouldve loved to play a more comic accurate version when the show was still on

  • @Sid3Ball
    @Sid3Ball Před 4 měsíci +189

    The fact that every dc movie is about the world ending really leaves street-level characters on the sideline.Except Bat man of course.

    • @space1734
      @space1734 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Which is stupid. Batman being in the JL will never be not funny for me.

    • @bignoasted2701
      @bignoasted2701 Před 4 měsíci +18

      ​@@space1734even if Batman was completely unable to fight completely unintelligent and a horrible detective he still would easily be able to bankroll the Justice League making him highly useful

    • @space1734
      @space1734 Před 4 měsíci

      @@bignoasted2701 Hey, if he wants to help out Aquaman bankroll the JL then that's fine. Superman can literally go to another planet to collect resources to profit from. Any of the JL members can become billionaires if they wanted.

    • @Y2JFan94
      @Y2JFan94 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Batman is overrated

    • @Hillthugsta
      @Hillthugsta Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@Y2JFan94Needs to be said more often and out loud.

  • @joelpolanco6776
    @joelpolanco6776 Před 4 měsíci +196

    A Green Arrow & Black Canary show in the style of Mr & Ms. Smith in the DCU, maybe for the second chapter, would be peak

    • @shredd-red9142
      @shredd-red9142 Před 4 měsíci +23

      I think a Green Arrow show would be good like the Superman and Lois show. With Green Arrow and Black Canary while having Roy Harper dealing with his drug addictions and Mia with her prostitution. Honestly, Oliver Queen works better as a family man who fights for the little guy.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před 4 měsíci +5

      I don't think they can have Mia doing that in show for teens/young adults. Also, they kinda already did that Roy stuff with Mirakuru in Arrow. I don't think they should do another live-action that kinda just does what they already did. Either do an animated series which could be awesome, or do something drastically different. Hell, maybe they could basically adapt the Grayson undercover series with Spiral or whatever but have it be Green Arrow and Black Canary.
      Though that kinda feels like Hunter and Bobbi from Agents Of Shield, at least they'd be copying Marvel instead of themselves, so a lot of people wouldn't recognize that lol. Plus, they'd technically be adapting their own story...

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 4 měsíci

      Of course, many will like to see an old man in his forties seduce a woman in her twenties.

  • @SanSan-jp1fr
    @SanSan-jp1fr Před 4 měsíci +77

    the fact that green arrow in comics has beaten people like deathstroke and even red hood but people say that those characters were nerfed shows how underutilized he is

  • @bignoob24
    @bignoob24 Před 4 měsíci +60

    I honestly really like Arrow, but I think we can all agree that the show was trying to hard to be dark.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Yup, that unfurtunately was a pretty common trope during that time, Man Of Steel, TASM 1, Transformers Prime, All took lighthearted premises & made them edgy, some of them works & in some of them didn't

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Besides season 5 episode 17. They did a pretty good job with that one. When he skinned the guy alive in the flashback and then proceeded even after getting the answers he was looking for and said the rest was just me practicing. He even had anatoli scared. If you can get a Russian gangster shook you're one dark mf. That episode gave me chills. Other than that yea they did try too hard 💯

  • @Dragon_Moth
    @Dragon_Moth Před 4 měsíci +462

    Arrow felt so pathetic, the writers clearly wanted to do a Batman show and just grabbed the guy who more closely resembled him and twisted him so he resembled more Batman at the cost of losing every important trait of his.

    • @treysavage4570
      @treysavage4570 Před 4 měsíci +17

      I kinda disagree cause in the comics Green Arrow is literally Batman without all the martial arts training and without the crazy tech. Green Arrow is a billionaire playboy that uses his riches to fight crime in a goofy costume. I think Green Arrow also lost his parents in some horrific accident now who does that sound like

    • @Dragon_Moth
      @Dragon_Moth Před 4 měsíci +53

      @@treysavage4570 What about his leftist philosophies? Did you know Ollie has a son? Or the real Arrowfamily? Or the history of Queen Industries?

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +37

      @@Dragon_Moth It's Called ADAPTATION, You can have a great show without necesarily being a copy paste from the source material, ROTTMNT, ARMORED ADVENTURES & Transformers Animated are Proof of that
      Arrow may not perfect but calling it a BAD SHOW is a balantly lie

    • @Dragon_Moth
      @Dragon_Moth Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 Fair enough. Tell me a single Green Arrow thing they did adapt.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +21

      @@Dragon_Moth his rivalry with Slade, his quippy attitude when he interacts with other heroes, his fighting style, his underdog place in a world full of super-powered beings & MOST IMPORTANTLY:
      HE COOKS AN EXCELENT & SPICY CHILI CON CARNE

  • @gimmeyourrights8292
    @gimmeyourrights8292 Před 4 měsíci +46

    The whole appeal of Green Arrow is that he represents that anyone can be a hero. He's similar to Batman in origin but he's different in the way he goes about it, he's more of a jokester but he is more than capable of handling himself. He's more outspoken especially when it comes to politics but he's strong willed and always possesses the capacity to help people. His relationship with Dinah works too because they both share the same morals and values.

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +82

    *2:45** To be fair, CW has been doing that since even way before the Arrowverse existed*
    -Half of Smallville villains where taken from the Justice Society
    -Flash 2014 stole a lot of Shazam & Teen Titans Rogues
    -Mosr supergirl villains are taken from Superman or are actually Heroes in the comics(They did so dirty to Red Tornado)

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před 4 měsíci +6

      Didn't Red Tornado literally start as a creation from a bad guy, though? I feel like he was also bad turned good in Young Justice? And maybe even Justice League?

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@Paradox-es3bl Yup, he started as a villain & THEN BECAME A HERO, in supergirl he is just an episodic Villain who dies in his 1°appereance & is no more relevant to that universe than Dodger or Multiplex
      (Earth-X Tornado Does Not count since is an alternate Version)

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@Paradox-es3bl that's the second Red Tornado. The first Red Tornado was a girl and a sort of joke hero who took care of the JSA...and the reason for the jokes? It was before Wonder Woman...so the idea that a girl could be a hero was treated as "yeah right, young boys are taken more seriously even in this jokey smurf world" sort of thing.

  • @JkidGetrekt
    @JkidGetrekt Před 4 měsíci +52

    It’s crazy how this man doesn’t miss. Like you literally have said everything I’ve felt about DC in the past years

    • @vincentbillings6907
      @vincentbillings6907 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Seriously. I share almost every opinion with his videos.

    • @fabooshka
      @fabooshka Před 3 měsíci +3

      bro doesn't miss just like GREEN ARROW , he 🔛🔝

  • @starwarsandmarvel5349
    @starwarsandmarvel5349 Před 4 měsíci +156

    I absolutely love him in the comics, but I kinda dislike him in arrow because he’s trying so hard to be Batman.

    • @portahstaggers123
      @portahstaggers123 Před 4 měsíci +12

      THANK U!!! he became a walmart batman

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ¿Isn't the main focus of the show that Oliver Kills? ¿& isn't Batman main rule that he doesn't kill?

    • @samuraibear5102
      @samuraibear5102 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@ArcTrooperRod-269why are so focused on that plus this is when dc was hard on edge they would of had batman kill someone at some point

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@portahstaggers123 he originally kinda was, except he operated in daylight.

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Superlad9494 That's no longer cannon.

  • @joeker5208
    @joeker5208 Před 4 měsíci +102

    Never gonna forget how the DCAMU gave us no Oliver Queen, but five minutes of Speedy. No offense to Roy, but like what the f*ck

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah somehow they let Roy take over but no Oliver?

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@hamizanyunos1502 this was the same universe that gave us two different Kid Flashes, who don’t interact with each other or Barry, and one of them doesn’t even have a voice actor

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@joeker5208 I know the whole DCAMU was not very good in my opinion I liked Death of Superman and the Wonder Woman movie but everything else felt weird and underdeveloped sometimes relying too much on shock-value violence like in Apokolips War

    • @bignoasted2701
      @bignoasted2701 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Honestly I'm fine with giving Roy some spotlight actually on his own 80% of his story's are so dwafed by green arrows shadow wither it's drugs clones or ghosts half the time Roy might not even get a mention

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@bignoasted2701 that’s not exactly the point I’m making. I think it’s fine if the character got to do something on his own. But this isn’t say a, “Teen Titans Situation”, where that show limited down its universe to solely focus on the Titans’ lore. This was an expansive animated DC universe, and literally the only reference to one of the bigger and most beloved DC characters is a five minute cameo to his sidekick. It wasn’t exactly a respectful display of the Green Arrow Mythos or Roy Harper

  • @MasterofRoku
    @MasterofRoku Před měsícem +4

    Surprised there's no mention of Green Arrow and his rivalry with Bats in the Brave and the Bold cartoon.

  • @T3aseW1thease
    @T3aseW1thease Před 4 měsíci +35

    Deathstroke is sort of like Doctor Doom he fights the fantastic four but he also has beef with the avengers, iron man, black panther etc so slade shouldnt really be restricted to being a nightwing/teen titans villain plus he's an assassin so it makes sense that he has beef with everybody

    • @redherringoffshoot2341
      @redherringoffshoot2341 Před 4 měsíci +5

      he originated from and is most known for the Teen Titans

    • @lilblock3564
      @lilblock3564 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@redherringoffshoot2341 So?

    • @notliked42210
      @notliked42210 Před 2 měsíci +9

      As batspecter once said:".......deathstroke is one of the few villains with a heroes gallery"

    • @aldusty2734
      @aldusty2734 Před měsícem +1

      @@notliked42210a fellow person of culture I see

  • @xanderg.1070
    @xanderg.1070 Před 4 měsíci +32

    It’s weird how the DCAMU didn’t have Green Arrow but had Speedy in that universe, so I kinda wonder if Oliver truly is in that universe or not

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Nope, in the same Interview where the Judas Writer said Kid Flash was Barry Allen, he also stated that Roy is 100% self-didact, meaning Oliver did not exist there

    • @xanderg.1070
      @xanderg.1070 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 that’s stupid and insulting to both Oliver, Roy, Barry, and Wally.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@xanderg.1070 That's the PERFECT definition of the DCAMU: Stupid & Insulting

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@ArcTrooperRod-269 also Barry being KF? With the Grayson Lineup? Really? What kinda sense does that make? Oh yeah...sense and Nu52 don't mesh.

  • @UserName70-ee4fx
    @UserName70-ee4fx Před 4 měsíci +13

    Green Arrow is that guy you don't want at a distance, kinda like how Bullseye fights in Netflix Daredevil. It would be cool to see a villain get up close and personal, but Oliver's skill and willpower give him the win.

  • @unluckydreamer
    @unluckydreamer Před 4 měsíci +28

    I hope we could see an arrow and canary movie in the dcu. With Gunn prioritizing genre i think an action rom com with the two would fit perfectly

    • @MrJJDIZZLE23
      @MrJJDIZZLE23 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Pleaseee for real the best couple

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 Před 4 měsíci

      And with green lantern/Hal Jordan included since the three of them are really close friends.

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Green arrow is one of the most charismatic superheros in comics, it’s surprising how they haven’t thought to use him in live action. A green arrow movie could actually be amazing

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German Před 4 měsíci +12

    I'm currently rewatching JLU. Best DCAU relationship ever... of all time.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před 4 měsíci +2

      I mean... WonderBat didn't really happen... but I ship it harder than anything else.

    • @DaniG._.German
      @DaniG._.German Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Paradox-es3bl WonderBat should've happened. JLU Wayne was happier than Beyond Wayne.

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +17

    I found so insulting the DC NATION GREEN ARROW SHOW never got the GREEN Light
    those 3 pilots were Hilarious & Amazing, One can only Imagine what they could achieve with an animated show's format 6 resources
    +The Neon Colors fit the green arrow mythos so well

  • @FriendlyBatDoom
    @FriendlyBatDoom Před 4 měsíci +14

    The problem is that DC is obsessed with Batman so when they couldn't get Batman they went with the B team in Green Arrow. Ra's Al Ghul wouldn't be interested in Green Arrow being his heir as he's not a genius. There's a reason why Batman and Ra's have so much in common since they are both legendary polymathic intellectuals first and legendary grandmaster-level one-man army warriors second. Green Arrow though not an idiot isn't even close to Batman in terms of intelligence. Batman is an intellectual prodigy amongst a class of William James Sidis-level prodigies while Green Arrow. Batman like Ra’s wants to rid the world of crime, corruption, and pollution but Ra's Al Ghul wants to cull 90 percent of the human population to do it. Though Green Arrow is a great warrior he's not on Batman or Black Canary's level. What Arrow CW did to Mr Terrific should be brought up on charges. If he was written correctly Oliver would be taking orders from him. Green Arrow is a great warrior, a good commander, a good teammate, and most of all a good well-intentioned grounded man that's why he works. Not as another watered-down Batman clone with watered-down Batman’s traits and villains. He works with his own traits and villains elevated to be grounded city-shaking threats. What Green Arrow should be fighting is the Ninth Circle with Count Vertigo one of the world's greatest swordsmen as the leader. Vertigo is using the Ninth Circle slave and drug empire to build up enough to overthrow his niece as monarch of Vlatava. To do so he sees a great opportunity to sell slaves and drugs in Seattle or Star City where he runs afoul of Green Arrow. Lastly, the treatment of Black Canary was awful. You could clearly see they did that for the teenage shippers to push Olicity drama to the forefront even in front of the plot.

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez Před 4 měsíci +7

    Can't forget brave and the bold GA a more arrogant take and kinda the butt of the joke but also really likable

  • @user-dh3hj5se6z
    @user-dh3hj5se6z Před 4 měsíci +8

    BB is the under dog of the titans, it doesn’t feel right without HIM and he can’t seem to do well without THEM (coming from a massive Gar fan.. it’s a sad case but it’s true)

    • @user-dh3hj5se6z
      @user-dh3hj5se6z Před 4 měsíci +3

      Our green brethren are slept on historically

  • @silvertongue.242_99
    @silvertongue.242_99 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Yes I love green arrow he is super underrated and was so good in jla. It showcases his character interaction with others, and his importance with the league. Black canry and green arrow is some of my favorite couples in comics. Jla and young just did black canry very well

  • @Nova-sama420
    @Nova-sama420 Před 4 měsíci +5

    4:03 Justice League/Unlimited has the best portrayal of ****pick any DC character***** ever put to screen.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Tim Drake: Are you sure about it?
      Red Tornado: Bro WTF?
      Vigilante (Sanders): *dies in irrelevancy

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před měsícem +4

      @@Nova-sama420
      Wonder Woman: False
      Red Tornado: No Way
      Wildcat: Not even in a million years
      Dick Grayson: Keep dreaming buddy

  • @GreenArrowHunter
    @GreenArrowHunter Před 4 měsíci +7

    A Green Arrow movie should an adaption of year one, in my humble opinión.

  • @renardofranklin608
    @renardofranklin608 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I feel like it's the same with Hawkeye in his place in the avengers he always feels like he has to prove himself because everyone has powers and he doesn't. which is why when he first joined he was kind of a jerk to everyone. Nothing captures this more than Avengers EMH which is my favorite version of the character outside of comics I also love his dynamic with hulk and black panther which is why I never liked the MCU version.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +4

      He was also AMAZING in armored adventures, he litterally clean the floor with an OP Future Iron Man while having a Broken Arm 😎

  • @TheAcrelicGem
    @TheAcrelicGem Před 3 měsíci +2

    3:29 to me, this is like having Tom Holland and Zendaya in your movie, but then you kill Zendaya and replace her with a twin that looks exactly like her.

  • @TheoBrownMusic7
    @TheoBrownMusic7 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I feel like Smallville got the correct tone and vibe for Green Arrow, in live action

  • @daimonatkins3046
    @daimonatkins3046 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Green Arrow would’ve made for a cool extension to the Batman Arkham franchise and I’m genuinely surprised considering how much DC tried to make Green Arrow like Batman that they didn’t make a Arkham game with some bow mechanics and have Oliver Queen’s rogues as the villains.

  • @evanwohler8231
    @evanwohler8231 Před měsícem +1

    He’d deserve to have his own movie or animated series about a underdog facing high level villains and difficult obstacles that requires more than his arrows to survive and shows a underdog can make difference even if he’s alone or not

  • @reidcunningham5906
    @reidcunningham5906 Před 4 měsíci +6

    People needs to know that he isn't just Batman with a bow

  • @callmev3531
    @callmev3531 Před 4 měsíci +4

    If anything, James Gunn’s era of the DC Cinematic Universe seems like the perfect place to put a more comic accurate Green Arrow. It’s likely that if they do end up adapting Oliver, they could end up playing into the fact that he isn’t taken seriously by a number of people (both in universe and outside it) because of his lack of powers despite being “super-abled” (or rather, what comic fans call “peak human) and choice of gimmick and equipment, but if done properly, it could be used to contrast the characters strengths as someone that represents the “little guy” and is focused more on doing as much good as he can despite his limitations instead of grand, epic acts of heroism typically associated with higher level superheroes.

  • @montenegroafro4454
    @montenegroafro4454 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Arrow was pretty good for the first 2 seasons except for parts where the writers tried so damn hard to make him sound like Christian Bale’s Batman.
    Also yea 3:19 Black Canary was disgustingly miscast and they should’ve let the blonde chick who played White Canary just be Black Canary like wtf?!!

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +10

    I know Arrow isn't a perfect adaptation & I know it has some issues(specially during season4), But calling it a BAD SHOW is a Balant Lie,
    I like the show for the same reason I love ARMORED ADVENTURES, ROTTMNT & TRANSFORMERS ANIMATED, differs from the source material in order to bring some amazing Story-Lines

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci

      Well the forced Batman similarities are much more Seasons 2 and 3 anyway. Season 1 does stay somewhat true to him…and 5…Idk. I guess it’s just a continuation

  • @dawudabdulali3827
    @dawudabdulali3827 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Fax I agreed with everything you said, I perfer batgoat, but green arrow is still awesome.

  • @blaxpoitation8528
    @blaxpoitation8528 Před 4 měsíci +3

    One of the many reasons, I don't rock with DC much anymore, is their insistence on gassing up Batman, usually to the detriment and ridicule of others. GA is a dope character, but he gets little shine because he's relegated to a Batman knockoff. He deserves more respect.
    Also, thank you for mentioning Mr Terrific. He's such a ridiculously underused character. And the one on Arrow was trash. Hopefully, Gunn does him justice.

  • @risuenor3652
    @risuenor3652 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Man this guy deserves a tv show

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA Před 4 měsíci +3

    The Green Arrow is so interesting and while I'm glad that he gained popularity from the Arrow show, it didn't do him enough justice as much as it did make him a diet Batman who even fought most of his villains like wtf. He's more of a Nightwing than Batman 10 times out of 10.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Lore of Green Arrow is the UNDERDOG of the Justice League momentum 100

  • @bipolarewok
    @bipolarewok Před 4 měsíci +2

    One of the biggest missed opportunities of the dceu was that Charlie hunnam wanted to play green arrow and WB ignored him. And now by the time the dcu introduces him hunnam would have aged out of the character. And that was a perfect casting.

  • @ShinyGolduck5
    @ShinyGolduck5 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Smallville Green Arrow was the best LAGA adaptation ever

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath Před 4 měsíci +3

    They called him ROZ Al Ghoul (ty for pronouncing it correctly) but the reason is because they wanted a Batman show but instead used GA because they both are billionaires with gadgets even though GA is more like Tony Stark (MCU) with a bow and arrow (in terms of personality). If they wanted a bat name character, dark and brooding, Red Hood...right there. He has next to nothing in terms of his own media independent of Batman.

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Roz is actually the correct pronunciation, it's Aramiac for "Imp's Head" like how Damian's Aramiac name is literally Batson (as in Billy), but he spells it Ibn Al'Xushfach. The Timmverse had Talia of all people pronounce it wrong.
      Raysh is the incorrect form.

  • @Thejrguy
    @Thejrguy Před 3 měsíci +5

    Bro, I swear CW wanted to make a Batman show but they were told no so they were like OK BET and just made green arrow Batman

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci +2

      To be fair, that’s more Seasons 2 and 3

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před 4 měsíci +5

    green arrow is really awesome and super underrated in my opinion.

  • @commonsense5199
    @commonsense5199 Před 4 měsíci +3

    What is your opinion on Green Arrow from Smallville? That version of Green Arrow was originally meant to have a spin off that lead to the formation of CW’s Arrow.
    2:37 Silencer too. Silencer in the comics have a connection to Talia al Ghul and the League of shadow. Silencer was like Talia’s Dick Grayson but rightfully doesn’t want to be an assassin anymore.
    As much as I appreciate Silencer appears in adaptation. The CW version of Silencer is weird. They established This version is a Meta Human but she need this tech device to use her powers. Why? In the comic Silencer can say shhh and Silent zone without any device.
    Arrow didn’t do Silencer, dirty I do like her fight with Black Canary. But it is still weird.
    I should mention Huntress was in Arrow too. And Huntress is also connected to Batman family.
    2:58 Brother Blood and Damian Darhk are Teen Titans and Titans Villains.
    3:13 Onomatopoeia was in Superman and Lois. You didn’t notice that?
    Vertigo was in Arrow, but as Drug Dealer than a count. Also there two of them. Cecil Adams and Werner Zytle
    So far in my mind of original green Malcom Merlyn and Cupid are the only Green Arrow Villains Along with Vertigo. I believe there is more.
    But if it make you Feel better there is a misconception that Clock King is a Batman Villain. Turns out, Clock King was in fact a Green Arrow Villain in the comics in 1960.
    4:00 I am jealous that James Gunn is writing The Terrfics. I am a writer and want to make an animated write of the Terrfics. But I’m the final horse finish the race.
    Wish I can write Wonder Woman animated series so I can elevate Wonder Woman’s Rogue Gallery. Also giving Donna, Cassie and possibly Yara more respect.
    7:06 this maybe point but I want to say it Really annoying that Injustice Jay Nakumara knows about the Death of Green Arrow. Seriously all that happened in the fortress of solitude but somehow Jay Nakumara knows. This add of Jay Nakumara being a Gary Stu and Tom Taylor being a Narcissist and messing up The Injustice Timeline.
    8:25 Only Speedy(Roy Harper) appears DC AMU. *Only Him!!!* and he only appears in a flashback and Cameo.
    We need a new team that excludes Batman.
    Maybe Sideways and Red Canary can start a new team. Not titans not outsiders and not Young Justice. Something new and entirely original.
    9:49 That’s true. Even George Lopez likes Ted Kord Blue Beetle more than Batman.
    Batman is just overrated.

  • @LEPrecon007
    @LEPrecon007 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Oliver Queen is my favorite DC character. It feels like Arrow was going to make a Batman show but couldn't get the rights. Amell did an amazing job with the material he was given, but I wish the writers actually did him and the role Justice.

  • @Paradox-es3bl
    @Paradox-es3bl Před 4 měsíci +2

    I honestly don't remember Talia at all in Arrow but Nyssa is my favorite character probably in the entire Arrowverse. And I love how she's always like, "You're my husband, Oliver. Of course I'll help you." Like, I think she's more or less how Talia is supposed to be... but Talia is a bit more loyal to Ra's and less trustworthy. Nyssa is the best. And she even trains Oliver and Felicity's kids in the future? "Aunt Nyssa" or whatever? Literally the only Flash Forward scenes I didn't skip because I was SO SICK of all the flashbacks when they started doing flash forwards I just noped past them... but the like 2 Nyssa scenes were great, still.
    Deathstroke was also pretty good in the show. And honestly, I liked everything with Sara Lance. I never really cared much about Black Canary but Laurel was somehow STILL disappointing like 98% of the time... but Sara was just always good, imo. Main reason I kept watching Legends. Although Matt Ryan's Constantine is also perfect, imo. Then again, also not really a fan of Constantine so... maybe that's a sacrilegious statement to actual fans? Idk.

  • @draiocht1979
    @draiocht1979 Před 3 měsíci +1

    4:34 completely off topic but I love that in almost every verse that Clark and Bruce look alike

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath Před 4 měsíci +4

    GL thinks the JL doesn't protect the little guy yet isn't that what saving the world is, saving all the little guys?

    • @TeamReArise
      @TeamReArise Před 2 měsíci +1

      That’s not the point he made in JLU, GA didn’t want to be part of the JL because he didn’t feel like was needed with so many heroes that have superpowers , he felt pretty useless and believed he was mostly going to be sidelined ( which does happen as a lot of the heroes are sidelined in the watch tower .)
      GA believed his place was down on earth handling the thieves and robbers while the JL delt with God level threats .

    • @punbasedname9032
      @punbasedname9032 Před měsícem +1

      I think it's supposed to be that they do little for everyday people's day to day struggles (from his perspective). The issue that basically created his modern personality had him dragging Green Lantern into taking down a slum landlord

  • @seancarroll136
    @seancarroll136 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I bet Warner Animation Group will sideline the SHIT out of Green Arrow in any of their next quote unquote “animated” “movies” when they clearly see Batman as their coping mechanism to show their bias!

  • @RLSTUD1OS
    @RLSTUD1OS Před 4 měsíci +5

    Green Arrow??? BLACK CANARY IS FAR MORE UNDERRATED 😭😭

  • @jayanmazumder359
    @jayanmazumder359 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Sure maybe the CW show ain’t the most accurate representation of Green Arrow but it is a complete fallacy to be calling it a bad show. Hell, the CW portrayal of Arrow was better than any live action Batman. To those hating on Arrow, give it a watch.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Its basically to Green Arrow what Armored Adventures is to iron man

    • @TheUnseenPath
      @TheUnseenPath Před 4 měsíci +5

      No way the live action Batman's were way better this was Arrow-Bat for CW and I watched the show but it became a chore later on with the flashbacks and his son and connor hawk and all of them.

    • @masido443
      @masido443 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@ArcTrooperRod-269nah, you're wilding for that. Armored was great and did a good job with it's premise of teenage Iron Man. Arrow just made GA Batman for poor.

    • @ronyventura9301
      @ronyventura9301 Před 4 měsíci +2

      All i got to say is 3:24 🤣🤣

    • @acrsclspdrcls1365
      @acrsclspdrcls1365 Před 4 měsíci

      Nah you tripping, Arrow was mid at beast and dolphin r*pe at worst

  • @Vucero
    @Vucero Před 4 měsíci +2

    That’s the best way to describe it, they tried to make the arrow into the Batman.

  • @JBirdInfo
    @JBirdInfo Před 4 měsíci +4

    Can u make a shazam video, he is also underestimated

  • @thegloveofficial3838
    @thegloveofficial3838 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'm praying green arrow in the movies is like JL Oliver🙏🙏 and they better do Mr terrific right the show tried to RUIN mr terrific 😂😂They literally made him gay for no reason he has never been that before, made him no seem like a capable fighter, and didn't make him too smart even tho he is a genius

  • @samflood5631
    @samflood5631 Před 2 dny

    Seeing how both Harley Quinn and Kite Man Hell Yeah are using villains and he-toes that most people never heard of or even had any adaptations like Kite Man, Golden Glider, Noonans, Queen of Fables, Spoiler, Baby Doll, Six Pack and even Snow Flame. I wonder if both shows will use Merlyn, Cheshire, Count Vertigo, Orphan, Zachary Zatara, the Mia Dearden Speedy, Red Arrow who is Oliver Queen’s half sister in the Prime Earth continuity, Clue Master, Electrocutioner and a few other d list super heroes and super villains.

  • @roguerex292
    @roguerex292 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Lmfao in the animated series every time they start talking shit about black canary fighting immediately in the next frame they do flying. It’s so funny to me

  • @revan6092
    @revan6092 Před 4 měsíci +3

    dc just downplays other more interesting characters just to d-ride Batman lol it’s pathetic

  • @BP-dn9nv
    @BP-dn9nv Před 4 měsíci +2

    I think a Green Arrow video game would be pretty cool.

    • @GokuBlackRose978
      @GokuBlackRose978 Před 2 měsíci

      People are gonna make so many “stealth archer” memes, the Bethesda curse is real dawg

  • @PeaceKeeper-md2tr
    @PeaceKeeper-md2tr Před 4 měsíci +3

    The underdog of The Justice League is Arthur Curry/Aquaman

  • @imafolklorestan
    @imafolklorestan Před 4 měsíci +3

    Talking about wasted potential... Vixen needs more love 🧡

  • @LoneWolf-gz9mr
    @LoneWolf-gz9mr Před 3 měsíci +1

    The "newer" dc are probably worried about audiences confusing the "green arrow" and the "hawkeye" characters up.

  • @justluka7590
    @justluka7590 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Oliver needs his own AAA game

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath Před 4 měsíci +4

    Hawkman is underused as well.

    • @thatonkgau5221
      @thatonkgau5221 Před 2 měsíci +2

      And he's also made disrespected in DC comics

  • @mayotango1317
    @mayotango1317 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The big problem is that Oliver is the Brian Griffin of DC.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci

      Hola bro, ¿ya te cansaste de burarte de fallecidos 🤐?

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 ¿Has leído sus cómics? Oliver es muy sermoneador e santurron, muy hippie de izquierda.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci

      @@mayotango1317 igual que Amon de La Leyenda De Korra, pero bien que te lo pones de Perfil 😜

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 Mejor mira X-Men 97 por una serie animada para machos, y deja de defender Omniverse; ya es un chiste meme patético.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269
      czcams.com/video/03C3zAL6EmA/video.htmlsi=Q8o-0cxruhsw-awS

  • @legotimefuntime5438
    @legotimefuntime5438 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Arrow wasn’t a true adaptation of Green Arrow. When I think of Green Arrow, I think of the DCAU. Hopefully somewhere down the line, the Gunverse will do G.A. and Black Canary justice.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +1

      & Imagine You would Hate TFA, ROTTMNT & Armored Adventures aswell 🤐

    • @legotimefuntime5438
      @legotimefuntime5438 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ArcTrooperRod-269 I don’t know what that is, but I’ll take your word for it.

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah well as I said to some others…
      The forced Batman similarities are really more Seasons 2 and 3 anyway

  • @samuelwanzio4703
    @samuelwanzio4703 Před 4 měsíci +3

    He’s cool and all but I don’t like the idea of having him being a founding member of the justice league it just looks weird

  • @dannysoul0
    @dannysoul0 Před 4 měsíci +4

    We need a green arrow game

  • @nightfaro
    @nightfaro Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love how you didn’t at all mention his appearance in the dark knight returns comic or even movie. But eh

  • @ezekielkennedy_
    @ezekielkennedy_ Před 4 měsíci +2

    I loved batman unlimited growing up

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc663 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I partially grew my handlebar because of green arrow. (Tried the whole van dyke, but my blond chin hairs weren’t thick enough to pull it off). My other inspiration is Alex Armstrong.

  • @daryltor7608
    @daryltor7608 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Justice for my boy Ollie ✊

  • @Jay-ob9np
    @Jay-ob9np Před 4 měsíci +3

    I strongly agree with this opinion

  • @mdpeterson27
    @mdpeterson27 Před měsícem

    Great post.
    It’s funny cause after the success of Batman and Robin. Green Arrow was created as a Batman copy to make money.
    I wonder if Arrow would have worked using his later characterization.

  • @GREENARROW-d4n
    @GREENARROW-d4n Před 8 dny

    I agree With you on everything, i really like how you said that green arrow Is for the Little guys, that Is prolly the best part of the Character

  • @soldier6971
    @soldier6971 Před 4 měsíci +2

    They better put him in the DCU

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Před 5 dny

    4 ACTORS I ENVISION PLAYING (OLIVER QUEEN) AKA GREEN-ARROW IN THE (DC U.) MOVIES:
    The first I envision, is English actor WILLIAM MOSELEY, he’s currently at age:37, and his height is 5’10” (1.78m) tall.
    The 2nd. I envision, is actor star JEREMY SUMPTER, he’s 35years old now, and his height is 6’(1.83m) tall.
    The 3rd. I envision, is actor star MAX THIERIOT, he’s 36years old now, and his height is 5’11” (1.80m) tall.
    The 4th. I envision, is actor star MARK L. YOUNG, he’s currently at age:36, and his height is 5’11” (1.80m) tall.

  • @KonEl17
    @KonEl17 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Isnt Green Arrow in JL Action?

    • @MEnterprises01
      @MEnterprises01  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yeah forgot to mention that 🗿

    • @KonEl17
      @KonEl17 Před 4 měsíci

      @@MEnterprises01 bro indont think I've seen a bad vid yet from you, I think your outlook is pretty spot on. Can't wait to see more vids and your takes on DC.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci

      Yup, Love the episode where he Body Swaps with Superman, Is HILARIOUS 😂

  • @superblue-Bc6re
    @superblue-Bc6re Před 4 měsíci +4

    Can you do Shazam next please 😁

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath Před 4 měsíci

    If they wanted a comic accurate GA then he should be cracking jokes. Slade also fights the JL so he works too.

  • @thatonkgau5221
    @thatonkgau5221 Před 2 měsíci +1

    While Arrow isn't the best Green arrow adaptation it is a pretty good one. Credit where credit is due It did give the character more of a spotlight in DC live action. It also introduced new characters into DC lore John Diggle and felicity smoke who were canonized in the comics. It made him more popular and it got me into Green Arrow mythology and comics. The show made me a devoted fan. When James Gunn reboots the DC universe and brings Green arrow into it, i hope he gives the character his own solo movie or series. They could even make both a tv show and a movie and incorporate both elements from the comics and arrow tv series.

    • @Zaire_39
      @Zaire_39 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Felicity Smoak being canonised is not a good thing😭

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Zaire_39 hate to say it but if it’s agree or disagree, I say agree.

  • @Blue-Jaye
    @Blue-Jaye Před 2 měsíci

    Just a friendly reminder that green arrow once shot an undead aquaman, the king of Atlantis, in the head on a kraken with raging winds and brutal waves. Bro is basically him

  • @moonstar247
    @moonstar247 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Finally I was saying this for years Arrow was cute but the show was ridiculous!! And it pissed me off omg I’m soo glad.

  • @ProAwesomeJr
    @ProAwesomeJr Před 4 měsíci +3

    Anyone else think an Arkham styled Green Arrow game would go hard af?

  • @NotCatchy
    @NotCatchy Před 4 měsíci

    Ngl bro I wish hawkgirl got even half the attention green arrow gets

  • @samuelwanzio4703
    @samuelwanzio4703 Před měsícem +1

    Super random but… They should make a green arrow video game, that is connected to the dcu. The game play should be similar to the game, tomb raider and Uncharted. We already had an arrow tv show, so why not introduce us to the character in a different way. Just throwing sum random ideas out.

  • @44excalibur
    @44excalibur Před 2 měsíci

    If Hollywood would just stop trying to always make Green Arrow into a poor-man's Batman, he'd be great.

  • @CaseyJustice
    @CaseyJustice Před 13 dny

    Green Arrow from Batman: The Brave and the Bold is the GOAT.

  • @princewillmadugba
    @princewillmadugba Před 4 měsíci +8

    I HATE ARROW TILL THIS DAY. That show wanted to be batman so bad for no reason

    • @Kalel2.0
      @Kalel2.0 Před 4 měsíci +4

      While I agree the show tried way too hard to be Batman it had some really good seasons particularly Sn 1,2,5 and 8

    • @thatonkgau5221
      @thatonkgau5221 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Now hold on now while the show did have it's ups and downs and it wasn't accurate to the comics copying A LOT from Batman. It was pretty good and it did give the Green arrow character more attention in DC media and made the character more popular. Before arrow I didn't know who Oliver Queen was but thanks to the show I've gotten way into Green Arrow comics and have become a devoted fan.

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Take it easy big man. The show’s actually good on its own in large parts

  • @mareleivanov
    @mareleivanov Před měsícem

    He's basically Spider-Man with money, as far as character arcs go. 😅

  • @Jojo-nq3bp
    @Jojo-nq3bp Před 4 měsíci +11

    "his inaccurate version" clears the other green arrow versions lets be real

    • @abiodunsulaiman2297
      @abiodunsulaiman2297 Před 4 měsíci +14

      He is literally just green batman in the show

    • @Jojo-nq3bp
      @Jojo-nq3bp Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@abiodunsulaiman2297 and that's more interesting than what i've seen from him in the past 8 years from comics to animated movies

    • @Okkotsu86275
      @Okkotsu86275 Před 4 měsíci +10

      ​@@Jojo-nq3bpRespectfully disagree, besides the obvious parallels. Oliver Queen is completely different from Bruce Wayne. That is what makes him a compelling and interesting character. The CW interpretation of the character is shameful.

    • @ArcTrooperRod-269
      @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@abiodunsulaiman2297 Isn't the main plot of the show that Oliver KILLS PEOPLE? & isn't batman gold rule that he doesn't kill?

    • @Jojo-nq3bp
      @Jojo-nq3bp Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Okkotsu86275 yap yap yap. you're wrong lil bro

  • @pipes3952
    @pipes3952 Před 4 měsíci

    How awful that sound Black Canary betrayed memory of her husband and leave happily ever after with his version from another universe, and all of this because in god damm sequile we need Green Arrow and Joker no matter of logic, morality and common sense.

  • @nightwing1491
    @nightwing1491 Před 4 měsíci

    This has nothing to do with Green Arrow but I am disappointed that I didn't Dick Grayson's origin to become Nightwing in Young Justice, and I agreee we need a more accurate Green Arrow in the upcoming DC films.

  • @gentlesavage2068
    @gentlesavage2068 Před 11 dny

    Seasons 1, 2 and 5 of arrow are great, I don't think arrow hurt the image of the character that much

  • @AdamYJ
    @AdamYJ Před měsícem

    Hey, if you think Ollie Queen gets tge shaft, his son Connor Hawke has it even worse.

  • @ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit

    Ok, I'm not a huge GA fan myself so I get that it might be irrelevant to you... but how could you make this video without one mention of the Brave and the Bold cartoon Green Arrow? I think despite how different in personality he is to other interpretations that he deserves at least a mention. Him and Batman's childish rivalry in the show was entertaining, at least to me.

  • @silvertongue.242_99
    @silvertongue.242_99 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I love Archer characters and green arrow is my favorite. I liked him more than Hawkeye well I knew him first. Just the design and aesthetic just hit the robin hood look 💚 🏹

  • @s-wo8781
    @s-wo8781 Před 2 měsíci

    What is the animation from at the end. It looks like Green Arrow is in The Boondocks.

  • @Dragonkid69
    @Dragonkid69 Před 3 měsíci

    Arrow Didn't feel like Ollies characters but batman Ollie is a jokester first he like to crack a joke hell batman the brave and the bold gave him an overconfident personality
    but ollie is a down to earth guy who helps his friends and girlfriend Black canary there relationship feels real because it's written like a real relationship they care about each other but have their own struggles and let's not forget Justice league unlimited the best characterization of him to date

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 Před 2 měsíci

      I mean…Arrow did do that to a point.
      Hot take for some people but I say Season 2 is actually where some things went wrong. 3 had a few issues too but most of them branched off of 2.