The Ultimate Final Fantasy 9 Iceberg Explained
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Although this game had the worst sales of three ps1 greats, it's still highly regarded among the fandom. With its triumphant return to the medieval fantasy roots, as well as some of the most beloved characters in the entire franchise, FF9 serves as a love letter to its predecessors. Let's dive deep as we patiently wait to hear more about the potential remake right over the horizon.
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I remember only being able to get 99 on the swordfight minigame when my sister wanted to try and get the moonstone. My Dad had just got home from work and offered to help, we each held the controller in one hand. He did the directional inputs and I did the button inputs so we could each focus on one task. We got a perfect score our first try. Good memories, except for the fact that my sister didn't talk to the queen to get the item lmao
That sounds like a wonderful memory. Even with you sis screwing it up XD It wouldnt be the same memory without it :)
I've never been able to get 100 legitly... Only time I did was on an emulator. I would pause the scene as soon as the buttons popped up, them spam it as I unpaused... Idk how the heck people supposed to do this.
as a german here: the german translation is one of a kind. the translator said in an interview that he wanted to give the whole thing a personal touch. cinna talks in a baverian accident, the coffee variants have german names and so on. and that's why i love it so much.
In the Spanish version Cinna and Marcus also speak with an Andalusian (Southern Spanish) accent lol 😅
I’m curious to learn as to how you know it’s a Bavarian accent when it’s all text-based speech? Are there certain words Cinna uses that one would only hear in Bavarian dialect maybe?
@@johnnydarko6187 it's pretty clear when you read it out loud. At first glance it doesn't even look German, because the translator used artistic freedom to spell the words the way you speak in dialect. This was by far the best translation of a game I have ever encountered. It had so much character, witts and Charme.
@@johnnydarko6187 yes there are certain words used. and if you read it out loud, what he says you recognize it.
@@Adrian-zi3uf in the italian version Cinna is called ER CINA and has a thick roman accent and slang. Many npc use regional italian slang as well. I suppose Square left some creative carte blanche to localization teams
I am the 3D artist that made Amarant at 42.20 !!! Nice to be in the video :D I also made garnet Freya and Vivi!
Wow!
Stop lying 🤣
Bruh.....If thats true i got a vivi tattoo on my leg, Even people that dont know its a video game character love it
Who designed FF9 characters?
Original concepts and designs were created by Yoshitaka Amano. The in-game version of each character was completed by Toshiyuki Itahana, Shunkou Murase and Shin Nagasawa.
Prove it 😂
I never considered Vivi never being able to say goodbye to Zidane. Or how Zidane would react finding out about Vivi when he got home. Now I'm sad.. but this was a 10/10 great video.
It's sad to think vivi last words were spoken as if Zidane had died. Vivi STOPPED before Zidane returned so vivi thought he died fighting kuja
@@KryptoKnightly saving Kuja*
@@Adrian-zi3ufthank you Google translate
Hearing that FFIX was the last true entry to adheres to the franchise's roots resonates so well, maybe a reason why it's by far my favorite, followed by Tactics and VI. Also, Vivi referring to Garnet as onee-chan is the most adorable preemptive strike I've ever incurred.
A 1 hour and 20 minutes Final Fantasy 9 iceberg sign me up Final Fantasy is one of those end of an era / generation games that will forever be fondly remembered as one of the greatest of all time
Well said!
"end of"? End my arse! FF keeps going and going. Not only games are still being launched, but also you can consider it s alive in multiple ways, one being Kingdom Hearts. You may say its not the same, that it has Change, but dont you dare say "end" and "Final Fantasy" in the same sentence
@@BrunoSantos-li7jz copium must taste very good
@@BrunoSantos-li7jz well it depends some say 10 some say 12 was the last playworthy part of the Series but it’s sure to say it will die sooner or later. 7R was total trash.
@@BrunoSantos-li7jz yes they are still making them but they are no longer any good
Thoughts about Necron:
So at the Eidolon wall there's speculation that Eidolons are manifested from beliefs, emotion, etc. Maybe Necron is the game's way of answering the Eidolon creation questions? Perhaps Kuja's belief that something would hear his dying breath created an Eidolon that heard this, but whose qualities would be reflective of a powerful man dying?
Best bit of ff9 for me is on terra when Zidane is having an Identity crisis, just having that self doubt is heart breaking but him having people there ready to help always warms my heart
I think Necro is a good end boss because much of the story is about overcoming death.
Hard agree
Yeah I've never had an issue with it, it's more like a final obstacle. Kuja still feels like the major final boss
I always think of it like this: As a character, Necron is very poor as a last boss/antagonist as he comes out of nowhere in that sense. As a thematic end to the main story theme and conflicts however, he is excellent. It really depends on what you're looking at him as that determines how you feel about them, which helps explain why there are more people that like or dislike him than people who are more neutral about him.
Necron comes in and usurps the emotional peak from the resolution of Kuja in the story, kills the whole vibe. FF9 would be on FF6's level if it weren't for this
The ultimate macgguffin
Vivis letter brings tears to my eyes everytime.
I also cry a little when Zidane and Vivi bond over pissing all over the ruins of Madain Sari under the moonlight
@@spacepan
HEY VIVI LET'S GO PISS ON SOME PEOPLE
Okay...
The OST from FF9 is my favorite. I remember scouring stores for the CD collection, and finally getting it :D
I got mine signed by Nobuo himself!!
One hour and twenty minutes of my favorite Final Fantasy...
What a way to start the day
This game practically saved my life when it came out during my senior year of high school and I now speedrun it, was cool to see an iceberg video on it.
How did it save your life? Where you getting bullied or something? I don't see how playing video games would help you with that. In fact, nerds are typically the target of bullying. High school was great for me, I still remember it fondly. We had this wierd guy who everybody picked on, so no one really wanted to bully anybody else since it was so much fun doing it to this guy. He barley had any neck, and looked super wierd. He also had these strange hobbies alegedely, so we made fun of him because of that as well - in retrospect I'm not even sure if he really enjoyed doing those things for real. We used to make up a lot of strange stuff about him, but I bet most of it was true anyways because he was so weird. Damn I really miss high school man.
@oonmm sounds like you have not mentally grown past highschool so you don’t have to miss it too much.
@@SirCanuckelhead No need to be rude dude. What's with that attitude? :/
@@oonmm lol talks about bullying a kid because they look weird and have different interest then them but can't handle a little flak back. Not surprised.
@@SirCanuckelhead Everybody was bullying him, so I did nothing wrong. My point was that it brought the rest of us together, because everyone joined in - and instead of several people getting bullied only one person was. Bullying can be devastating for people, even for some adults maybe, but it will always happen, so limiting how many people having to experience that is a good thing in my book.
The attention to detail is insane. In this game and in your video. Congrats, you made art.
Cheers friend.
Small correction on Doga and Une. They weren't playable characters in FF3, but you had to talk to each of them to progress further in the game.
44:22 dude i aways wanted mikoto to be the final boss, she literally say that she is the third angel of death and that she was made to substitute kuja but after that she never appears again, they Just created her and made her for Disc 3 and instantly forgot about her
This is my favorite game of all time and I thought I knew everything about it. You proved me wrong. Great video!
Awesome. Thanks!
22:23 Not only does Marcus's stats roll over onto Eiko, Eiko's starting level is based on the party average excluding his levels, meaning one can kill off the rest of your party, level Marcus to 99. Once Eiko joins, her stats will be whatever his stats were at level 99 while hers will be whatever the the party average is at the time!
Fascinating. Does she keep her normal stat growth? Because those will be some wacky stats
@@andypants1062 She does. IIRC, because of the glitch, she's the only one who can hit 99 max magic stones.
Speaking of magic stones, that stat is also glitched: characters who aren't Zidane, Vivi, Garnet, and Steiner can miss out on magic stones if they join at levels above 1 (excluding Eiko because of the Marcus glitch). This is because the game does not update their magic stones when they join and will always start at their level 1 maximum.
This is one option to get incredible opverpowered, but also makes it inpossible to get Steiners best weapon (and thus making his leveling weaker).
@@ABaumstumpf not impossible technically. the game clock overflows at 2 years 98 days back to 0 due to the byte size of the timer variable. So technically if you already invested heavily getting Marcus to 99 for that perfect Eiko, you can still get Excalibur II.
@@tirosc i thought it was near exactly 3 years of letting the game run? Well, doesn't matter much, you are right "technically" still possible, but even at 10x speed it would take months -.-
FF9 is my favourite FF game and I just platinumed it earlier this year on ps4. Thank you for this list!
@Pro Token420 actually really easy with the speed booster now in the remasters. Since it doubles movement and cutscenes but timer remains the same. Also makes chocobo hot cold really easy.
Unfortunately it's the jump rope mini game that sucks. For that I had to use the psn remote play "exploit"
I had no idea about the treno fountain and the thief!! Its incredible to keep learning new stuff about this game 20 years after the release and having played it a dozen times. Thanks!!
What a amazing end to the PS1 era of Final Fantasy games...
Can't wait to see some of the little known details that you have dug up
In the Spanish translation all the Tantalus members talk with regional accents, Ruby speaks like an Argentinian while Cinna speaks like an Andaluz for example
I find it very strange and hard to believe that the Tantalus Bros side quest took that long to find because I distinctly remember owning two EGM magazines (one red, one blue) that had a walkthrough across both issues of the entire game which had that Side Quest in it. I knew about it for years and suddenly someone 'finds' it one day.
Yeah. Do a Google search with before:2006 (as an example) in the search and you can easily see it is documented
I remember when ffX came out I got the guide with it and knew things people said they only just found out years later, I actually still have it. Those guides were amazing.
Necron to me is like a bonus boss. I feel like everything after you defeat Trance Kuja is "Epilogue"
I felt that way too but this video did a good job of proving Necron exists in the story organically.
There's a really good forum topic on Necron. I had to dig around for it a long time ago, I never got around to printing it or saving it, though. I'm sure it exists somewhere still
I want that Amano character art image in super high quality so I can put it on my wall. I love it so much.
Am I the only one who ever noticed that the Final Fantasy 1 game referred to their world as Terra while the rest up to 9 called it Gaia. Then in 9 we actually have the return of Garland and the 4 fiends a long with a trip from Gaia to Terra. I swear I always believed this was more than just some call back. It has the Crystal in it as well which was the focus of the story and Time from FF1 and everything. I always saw it as "This is what eventually became of that world you played in FF1." To see it like that you almost feel heart broken. It would be like playing FF25 and you go from some other world to Gaia if Gaia was never named as the world u r playing on ever since FF9. To see all the stories and adventures u played and then see that in the end Gaia became some husk of a world it once was and the people souless and mute. I guess as an old school FF player who has played these games since they have come out that it just kinda feel nostalgic but sad.
So FF9 is pretty much a direct sequel to 1 but while the time loop in Terra is during FF1 is still going on. What Garland does as a way to not only break the time loop but also maintain it is to make the Iifa tree, which circulates souls from Gaia to Terra. He wanted Kuja to begin that cycle until he turned 25 and then wanted Zidane to continue that cycle...forever, since Zidane IS immortal in FF9. It isn't directly said but it is heavily heavily implied. The Soul Cage thing you fight in the Iifa tree is part of Garland, but the final boss is not. The final boss pretty much just wants to destroy Gaia itself (which Garland does NOT want, he just wanted Terra to assimilate Gaia).
I think there is a video essay somewhere on here that explains this better than me.
@@SirJoelsuf1 Ahh awesome. I will look for that and I am glad I am not alone in this. Thanks man.
@@Malkiore1 Yeah I forget the channel that does it, but the video is entitled "Did Garland's Plan Work?" Or something along those lines.
What?
In ff6 the main character is Terra
I have the ff9 Brady games guidebook. It worked for getting through the game, but not for completing it. And it doesn't help that by the time I had the internet, the playonline site was converted to ffxi and not any info on ff9.
Good times....
FFIX is my favorite 😍 ❤️
Loved the story, world, characters and my God the music.
A lot of people dis on it simply for the style but I personally like it. It makes it stand out amongst the rest and gives it such charm.
Regarding various things:
Summoning as Dagger: I kind of remember at one point, in a playthrough of FFIX, getting enough MP to do a Summon before Ramuh was acquired. And it was quite powerful. As well as that, all of the Summons MP costs reduced significantly after you get Ramuh.
Regarding Playonline: Using that was also a pain even you had access to the internet. I BELIEVE that all the stuff from it is kept somewhere though.
Getting Excalibur 2 on PAL with no FMV skips or glitches was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in gaming. Incredibly rewarding and was before the time of trophies, the sword was the reward not a an e-medal
But... the sword is worse then an e-medal. Not only are you significantly weaker but due to the damage cap it is effectively true worthless.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 yes but if you have multiple files its an item worth getting for the achievement of doing it.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Um what? That wasn't my experience in the PS1 version or the PC version. Guess the PAL one is different? Does Excalibur 2 on PAL underflow damage to where it does single digits. Cuz it does 9999 on the other versions.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 it’s by far the strongest weapon in the game.
You can also get it by letting time run over 99:99:99 which then resets to 00:00:01 allowing you to grab it, so either rush through the game or take your sweet time
FF 9 is my favorite, because it was like a fairy tale. Wooden Ships flying, kingdoms, magic, anthropomorphic characters. Very nice change of pace.
Funnily enough the popped into my recommendations as soon as I started researching for a massive Final fantasy 15 iceberg I'm working on haha. Awesome to see more long form FF content like this and you just earned a subscriber!
The algorithm is a wonderful thing! Best of luck with your content and thanks so much for the comment and sub!
Let's Goooo
Went ahead and subscribed for when it comes out
I think Necro is a good end boss because much of the story is about overcoming death.
I look forward to your ff15 iceberg
You could probably have mentioned the secret permanent stat upgrade system involving what equipment you use. How if you use weapons that has stat upgrades, it actually adds that to a secret counter on level up. Once that secret counter hits it's required amount, like 16, it adds an actual permanent upgrade to the stat. That is also why you'd want to level up Marcus so much, but only him, with the best stat upgrading equipment you can, as Eiko would get his secret counter upgrades. This is because if the team is still on a low level when you get Eiko (only leveled Marcus), she will be on a low level too, and she could get the secret stat upgrades for leveling to 99 twice.
First video I've seen of yours and I'm amazed I haven't seen your channel earlier. Top tier content! FF9 is my favorite as well so that helps!
I absolutely CANNOT wait to play this one, I've been playing the FF games in order and I'm on VI now! This has got to be my favorite franchise!!
Im choosing between ff 6 or 7 whats better?
I've played all in order too and it was... tedious. Those moments when you need to farm lvl to progress are very annoying (hello ff4 last dungeon)
Hell for 4 it's not just last dungeon, it's when you become a paladin as well that's so annoying but it's still one of my favourite games cos the story is so good
lol that sounds kinda awful and super grindy
Ff6 is awesome, also ffx
SWEET! Thanks Maker. I enjoy your icebergs. Gotta watch one for my favorite FF and fav game in general.
You're very welcome. Enjoy!
With the current FF writing team and the multiple flops of FF13-1-3 and FF15 and Stranger of paradise (Nobody is talking about these games for their characters.)
And there are so many videos talking about the failed character writing of all the mentioned games and they're right. I don't want them making a FF9 2
and I definitely am still on the fence with wanting a remake after the weirdness in the FF7 remake, did it really need the floating cloak ghost? No thank you, leave this gem
alone. Remake FF tactics, or FF8 and 1-5 and Crystal bearers many people didn't even play that one.
I had no idea how much extra stuff was in this game. Unlockable dialog, hidden quests, stuff like that.
Crazy this popped up just as I started replaying this game lol. Great work bro.
Glad you enjoy it!
Great vid Maker! FFIX is one of the few videogames that made me shed tears. And given its resurgence in recent years, I can only hope it's remake can do the story justice.
Thanks Calvin. Fingers crossed!
Same here but I for one do NOT want to see a full FF9 remake. We saw what happened with the FF7 remake(s) and how it strayed so far from the source material that you may as well call it FF7 Advent Children the game, best believe that will happen with FF9.
If we DO get an FF9 remake I'd just want to throw in some voice acting among the original gameplay, remove Zidane grabbing Garnet's ass (or keep it then have Garnet slap him or something in response, anything that shows that something like that has consequences), and maybe give Terra its own world map.
FF9 is one of the best games ever made ❤
Ehh, it was ok.
@@Heymrk more than just ok
@@akiinmoonlight79 dude it’s his opinion
@@akiinmoonlight79 borderline peak fiction
Hey, thanks for this video. There's quite a bit I didn't know 23 years on from my favourite game that you had here. Great work.
Maker, This is fantastic! I subscribed because I love it!
Marcus = Eiko stats truly blew my mind. I always kill him and grind with Dagger and Steiner near Quan's Dwelling with the Mandragora's. Still have PTSD from death by Chestnuts...
I kill him in the prison with Steiner cos the blood sword with man eater is op for grinding but yeah those chestnuts haunt me so much
Vivi japanese quote is better because he was basically a homunculus
another one for FF IX and an hour long to boot thanks maker this is one of my favorite RPG in the PS era a truly memorable game, to this day reading Vivi's last letter always gets me in the feels.
can i suggest an Iceberg for Lost Odyssey? that was one of Mr. Sakaguchi's work, ma boi Kaim needs some love as well.
Great video. Appreciate the hard work!
My favorite in all the series, I played this as a kid and don't know but I finished it without learning many skills or spells and lowish level but I did and I was proud. My brother was surprised to hear that I did and that was another proud moment for me. I've played it several times over the years totalling in 5 playthroughs through different systems, everytime I walk away having learned something different and crying especially now that I'm older and understand the themes better.
38:08 This also applies to Freya's Dragon Crest and Quina's Frog Drop abilities. Their damage dealt uses the same formula, only based off of dragons killed/frogs captured.
This was an amazing video. Thank you for making these,makes me appreciate my favorite FF:s so much more.
Please give us an ultimate iceberg about FF12 and FF13 as well,please
22:00 - The Beach set is meant to be equipped and used in the 21 beaches of the game after doing *everything*
(challenging everyone at Tetra Master including Fat Chocobo, Mognet, Chocobo's Paradise, Ozma, etc).
*All characters must have the set equipped* .
Last piece is obtained via Kupo Nut at Gizamaluke's Grotto. Then you can start beachin':
> Go to each beach (i.e.: the sandy parts of the map) on chocobo, unmonut, then press Circle next to it.
The beaches have to be reached with Chocobo for this to work.
After doing this, with the Beach Set Equipped in every character,
you can heal the whole party on any beach of the game by pressing Circle.
That is something you unlock in Chocobo Paradise, I think, definitely not because of the beach set. I think it's after finding all the secret digging spots in the overworld. I did the beach thing without ever equipping or completing the beach set.
You can feel that Blank was gonna be more relevant, because how he sacrificed himself on the forest, and Zidane was willing to save him, thing that we never did and happened off-screen, maybe the planned for a plot were we have to save him, but never found the opportunity or was scrapped at the end.
Another thing, yes Kuja stated that the fusion has begun, but i think that is retorically, like he say started because he is doing it, but was stopped at time, or the other possibility, is that Necron gave them a 2nd chance and recreated the crystal, or well that was i think, i don't think developer will just destroy the world without showing off, like they did in FFVI
But you do save him in the game. Remember the Supersoft?
Gonna have to watch this 2 or 3 times to absorb all of it and that's just fine by me! Great video!
Wow, thanks!
I can't explain it but somehow in my mind I always had Final Fantasy IX and Dark Crystal as like media "siblings". I love the worlds of these franchises so much and it's so cool to learn that FFIX took direct inspiration from DC, it makes total sense in retrospective. I really hope a remake is in the works!
Now I wanna play 9 . It's still my favorite one
This was amazing! Thank you and really hope we see a continuation of FF IX or a remake since those involved are very passionate about the game as well!
One interesting tidbit about FFIX is how the English translation has received widespread critical acclaim, as the dialogue conveys the game's mature theme in a very simple way without diluting the intent, the naturalistic dialogue between characters leading to natural comedic moments and good character interactions, and the characters like Zidane being capable of expressing sarcasm, as Japan isn't very familiar with the concept of sarcasm in their society. This is due to Squaresoft's localizers working directly with the writers of FFIX, so the game's translation is more accurate than previous games in the series.
Quina is an eternal mystery. They are female for the purposes of the Femme Fatale trophy, but at the same time Zidane when equipped with the "Protect Girls" ability will never protect them.
I confess that in all my years as a FFIX fan I've never heard of the theory of Zidane having Dagger's mother's soul, which might be a little awkward, but it's not completely off-the-rails when you explain it. This was a very interesting iceberg! I wonder what happened to the ffix animation project though, I remember the initial reactions it caused on twitter when those news came into light, I would love to see a series that fleshes out smaller aspects of ffix's lore.
A little awkward indeed considering the ass-pinching scene lmao...
@@kilderok In a quasi-freudian way, it is
In the Vivi in Dissidia NT you forgot to mention that Vivi is in Dissidia Opera Omnia and there is an entire chapter dedicated to Vivi and Kuja talking about how their lives are finite and (spoiler alert) it is when Kuja completely join forces with the warriors of light for good story-wise (as in he ditch the bad guys and is now 100% commited to help the good guys like Golbez)
I think Necron is an eidolon constructed from the shared existential crisis of Gaia and/or Terra. Maybe even summoned by Kuja as he was nearing death. Death comes out of nowhere and seems cruel when it happens. Kind of like necron. And seeing as the whole theme of the game is accepting death and eidolons are constructed by the shared memories of the people of a planet it kind of makes sense. Granted I did a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the underwhelming and unexpected final boss of my favorite game.
If they do a remake I hope they at least plant a few more seeds to make necron make sense.
Great video as always! Keep it up! :)
It surprises me how many new things I can learn about my fave game OAT. I knew the majority of the things here, but certain deets, like the whole “Zidane maybe has Jane’s Soul” and “Golden Chocobo Glitch” bits, hit me out of left field. That’s so interesting!
Just say of all time, clown
Final Fantasy has never, ever been shy about the Star Wars allusions. Most of them starting in Final Fantasy 2 and continuing to varying degrees ever since.
Ff9 is my favorite out of the series
I haven't played FF9 in many years. From your video I saw a few things I didn't know about. Great video.
I absolutely did get the Nero side quest on my first play, but only because I kept obsessively checking the hideout, expecting some trigger to randomly appear in there eventually.
LMAO I'm glad I'm not the only one that does stuff like that
No, you did not
ok as a avid fan of Final Fantasy IX, this is worth to be titled as "The Ultimate" Final Fantasy 9 Iceberg Explained.
24:50 This song instantly gives chills and good-memories-misty-eyes
Let's not forget that Zidane plowed Freya, and the end credits stinger make metaphor that he later nailed Dagger.
It’s just implied
@@MILDMONSTER1234
You're right, but it's a pretty heavy handed implication.
He meets Freya at the bar, establishes that she's still without her significant other, then suddenly overnight music...
As for Dagger, well, the two worlds smashing in to each other is about as blatant as it gets. They're both from two different worlds, both figuratively and literally, and they quite literally smash.
9 hit me in the feels so hard as a kid. love this game.
Fantastic video! Thank you!
26:38 youre right about one thing - theyre locked out initially. However... if you super grind at the grounds of Treno you can start slamming summons
correction: final fantasy 11 was the first to introduce real time movement battles. ff12 uses the exact same functions as 11. the only difference is instead of queueing up your attacks/spells, they introduced the gambit system in 12.
As someone who got the game and guidebook for Christmas when it came out, it was super annoying >
Thank you so much for making this.
I've been playing this game once a year for like 20 years now, and I learned a bunch of new stuff! Fingers crossed for that remake.
It doesn't need a remake, especially after how FF7R turned out. It's perfect the way it is.
My best friend growing up got the excalibur 2. Used the trick to skip movies by opening the disk tray and had many saves and spent weeks following a guide to get it.
IX is easily my 2nd favorite FF game, after VII. I got it as soon as it released in North America, I was 14 and had basically no responsibilities so I spent tons of hours playing it. I was waaayy into DB, even back then as well, and I loved Zidane having a tail, like a Saiyan 😆. Great game! Love the iceberg! Thanks! 👍👍👍
ETA: I bought that guide with the game, one of the VERY FEW guides I ever purchased with a game in my life. I had internet at the time but having to get on just to find out some bs was incredibly irritating and just a stupid decision by the makers of it. That was back in the 56k dial up days, after all. 🤔😒🤬
I think 9's sales were so low because 8 was so disappointing.
It's like Solo. Movie did terrible because people were boycotting because of the last Jedi. It didn't have low numbers because _IT_ was a bad movie.
Same situation. 8 was such a bad game, no one trusted them to make 9.
@@iami3rian394 Yeah, you make a good point. I've always had the same opinion myself. I loved VII, it's my favorite video game and I expected VIII to be in that same vein but found it very disappointing. I didn't know what to expect from IX when it released but I'm a fan of the franchise so gave it a shot with no expectations going in. I loved it, pretty much from the very start, and was very happy that they went back and paid tribute to the early FF games style. I haven't played thru VIII in close to 20 years but I've played VII and IX dozens of times over the same period of time. I'm glad that IX was eventually able to become a fan favorite bc it's one of the best in the franchise.
@@l33g3ndar33 for me, the issue was spending like forty minutes drawing Fira in a hallway, because the entire system is horrible... but turned a corner and the very next encounter twenty seconds later expected me to spend another forty minutes drawing Firaga. It was at that moment that I realized how bad the game was, and I quit. I didn't play it again for like six years, and I was amazingly unimpressed. Maybe I was a bit too old to deal with Squall as a main character, I dunno. The story and characters seem like a 7th graders final fantasy fanfic and not a AAA game.
7 was also one of my favorite games for years, and I love nine as well. I just think a LOT of the sales for 8 were just like us, people hyping off 7, but ended let down customers who didn't return for 9.
@@iami3rian394 I couldn't stand the whole draw system for VIII. Idk who was the one that decided on it being in the game but it's one of the worst ideas ever. The materia system was excellent bc of how much customization is possible and the ability to make really cool combinations. The ability and crystal system in IX was really cool too and gives you a real sense of accomplishment to master.
@@l33g3ndar33 I'm convinced it was done that way to sell strategy guides. Once you COMPLETELY understand drawing, it's not so bad.
The thing is, this was (mostly) pre-internet. GFQS was the best you were gonna get, and if no one there wrote a guide... you were out of luck.
Every single game with a customization system did it better. I'll never understand who thought this was a good idea, although again, I guarantee they got kickbacks on the strategy guide.
I have 3 ff14 characters that are all references to the 3 ps1 games. That guidebook ticked me off so much. Beatrix is my favorite character.
I remember being in an old Square soft forum, and someone saying that you get an alternate ending if you beat the game with your party wearing the Haiwaiian gear. I kinda miss those days of the old internet game stories.
That's absolutely hilarious. Probably not for the people who tried it but I digress.
Magical game. Absolutely magical.
(An don't let that art style fool you, that story will fuck you up.) Beautifully juxtaposed.
I’d legitimately watch tens and tens more hours of this…❤❤❤
What an amazing round-up. There were also some things I didn’t know. I remember I had a copy of hacked game for my chipped ps1, where I could raise max hp/mp, max gil and so on!!!
What an awesome kind of video…😁
Awesome to see you put FFTCG cards in here. I love FFTCG and travel to play for it and even made it to Worlds one year, but I really want to see the game grow. If anyone here in the comments likes Magic, I definitely recommend giving FFTCG a try because it borrows a lot of the good mechanics from there and improves a lot of other things allowing for a lot more player choice and agency over the outcome of games, and deckbuilding is generally pretty open.
Oh how I have waited for this one. Was thinking of you earlier today my online friend. Hope all is well!
All is fantastic Thomas! Hoping the same for you! Cheers friend.
@@Maker1 major life changes all for the better! Cheers!
this video is amazing/ i learned so much
Very nice video 🔥
**Comment left** lol love what you do! Keep it up!!
Learning about the eventual tragic demise of Vivi and Gaia was hard to swallow. I never caught onto that. Maybe I didn't want to.
Me neither
I really REALLY wanted to believe Vivi was alive but no...I knew better. I knew. This made me feel a bit better about it after it was mentioned it's strongly suggested he's king of the planets lifestream now the same that Aeris became lady of her planet, but then the "Gaia is pretty much a floating corpse" thing came along and COME ON!!! Stop hurting me!!
The Gaia one is only a theory, and one I honestly don't really agree with. My interpretation of the cinematic where the tree was attacking Zidane was that it was in its death throws. If it's dead, it's ability to cut off souls from Gaia's crystal could be reasonably assumed to be stopped. Also, the main cast aren't idiots. With what they know they wouldn't just sit around doing nothing unless they had a fair reason to believe the issue was pretty much solved.
In a fairly recent interview, FF9's character designer has stated he's working on designs for a new game but he's under an NDA and therefor can't say much about what he's doing at the moment beyond that. Not who he's working for, not a general storyline, nothing. Also, PlayOnline is still around. SE uses it as the launcher for Final Fantasy XI.
Very, very good video! Thank you sir!
My pleasure. And thank you!
Brilliant vid, thanks for this
29:15 today i found out: the music youre playing for this section reminds me of the disk 1-3 world map theme, just slowed down and different instruments
This isn't related to FFIX, but on the topic of the coke partnership, the ffX coke figures are so funny. My favorite one is the Wakka one, it's just an off-model Wakka figure holding a coke bottle. It's glorious.
I look at those Amano designs and all I see is early concept work for the Party's Trance forms.
3:35 see at least 4x TH4 thieves w/ full salvage gear, and OF COURSE there's a RDM *STILL* rockin' the pimp hat.
Spent >10 years of my life in that game, even worked as a 3rd party dev for windower way back. Good old days
A remake sounds cool, but I've become skeptical of them these days. You never know if they'll do the original justice, or just screw everything up.
Don’t remake it if it’s not going to be a turn based game. Why can’t it be a turn based game with a difficulty setting? I don’t need an action game, there’s a plethora of action games and action rpgs and shooting rpgs and on and on. I want an OG turn based f-ing Final Fantasy game. I don’t want to feel pressured by a game if I don’t want to, sometimes I just want to enjoy a game because it’s a GAME.
Also I always just call Quina -Chef
And I always call Vivi -Jawa
And I always call Garnet -Garnet (it just makes sense)
And that guidebook in 2000 was just a damn disaster. I had online and couldn’t even make it work. It was bogus trash. And after the thoroughness of the VII and VIII books it was just maddening.
Like I said, if Square wants to do an homage make it a turn based game first. It doesn’t mean boredom, it just means it’s not typical.
I remember that FF7 was introduced me to the FF series as a young child, and I followed it through 8, 9, 10, 11 but 10 really demonstrated how much it connect to my characters. When I learned Tidus wasn’t real-just a dream of some supernatural beings and I didn’t know how that would affect me so badly. I carried on playing for that day but after saving and turning off I never played again. I didn’t get far with FF12 because I didn’t like the way Vaan dreamed of being a sky pirate. Pirates attack innocent people, they steal, kill and kidnap the pilots and crew. They are evil. But while I don’t mind him starting out as a beggar the story seemed to be about Ashe and he was incidental.
Now, I wanted to play FF13 but I didn’t have the PS3 so I couldn’t play it. I have the PS4 now and I’d still go back to playing it if it were available on PS4. And I play FF14 even to this day. But 15 seems to be just just an all male party which I will never tolerate. My childhood involved a lot of games that I was forced to play as a boy or a man which I hated as a girl. And Lara Croft was just famous for her breasts. The best technology that was ever added into games was the ability to create your character as either.
But FF9 had a profound impact on me, as shown in my chosen online name.
I am wondering if the final boss fight with Hades in Final Fantasy 14 Shadowbridgers, was the optional ending intended for Final Fantasy 9 than fighting Necron at the end of the game. If it is, many players have been playing the optional ending within the Final Fantasy game including myself. It is just a thought from you reference of fighting Hades towards the end Final Fantasy 9. For the person who made this video, thank you for sharing.