The Flash is Infuriatingly Inconsistent - Season 4
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0:00:00 - Episode 1 | The Flash Reborn
0:11:13 - Episode 2 | Mixed Signals
0:19:57 - Episode 3 | Luck Be a Lady
0:24:10 - Episode 4 | Elongated Journey into Night
0:28:26 - Episode 5 | Girl’s Night Out
0:29:40 - Episode 6 | When Harry Met Harry…
0:36:30 - Episode 7 | Therefore I Am
0:39:28 - Episode 9 | Don’t Run
0:46:58 - Episode 10 | The Trial of the Flash
1:01:47 - Episode 11 | The Elongated Knight Rises
1:06:15 - Episode 13 | True Colors
1:13:36 - Episode 14 | Subject 9
1:30:16 - Episode 15 | Enter Flashtime
1:39:46 - Episode 16 | Run Iris, Run
1:47:00 - Episode 17 | Null and Annoyed
1:54:38 - Episode 18 | Lose Yourself
2:08:12 - Episode 19 | Fury Rogue
2:21:05 - Episode 20 | Therefore She Is
2:31:10 - Episode 21 | Harry and the Harrisons
2:35:50 - Episode 22 | Think Fast
2:47:03 - Episode 23 | We Are the Flash - Krátké a kreslené filmy
He may not be the worst villain overall, but his name being “The Thinker” when he actively doesn’t think is just priceless
They thought through Iris being a manipulative gaslighter more than any other plot point
@@garrettcooper58 True, they thunkled really hard about character assassination rather than important stuff like common sense and remembering what they wrote 5 seconds ago
He’s a top 3 villain, way better than Savitar
He also claims to be the fastest mind alive when he is anything but.
When I did watch this show, I always called him the Stinker, 'cause his character and plan was utter dogshit.
I like how 90% of the criticism of the show could have been avoided if they said something like "we need to collect data about the meta's power to adjust the power dampening cuffs"
Also if they added a bit in S1 where Barrey almost killed someone when he punched them at super speed
So it’s not so easy for him to just tackle people down at super speed, he has to slow down first.
Or if they just said that Barry can't touch or move anyone at superspeed without doing damage, and that attacking someone in superspeed would kill them, which he has a code of conduct not to do.
Still wouldnt make much sense because be could still relocate them to Iron Heighs or P.A prision. And if they needed to collect data for that too, show wouldnt be logic, imagine have to build a personalized prision cell for each meta that shows up?
@@lucasgomesmoreira8451 Could be easily handwaved as stationary power suppressors are more powerfull and don't need adjustments.
Also if they treated superspeed as a limited resource that they have to be careful not to deplete in case it’s really needed. I know that’s not how it works, but it would somewhat explain why Flash is always hesitant to use it.
Like, he could go into bullet time for only a second of normal time before he’s too strained and weak to keep it up. That way it’s not OP, and if he’s already used bullet time that day it could be the reason he’s too slow in the following scenes.
While watching season 4, I decided Devo was just a regular intelligence level guy, but comparing to team Flash he was a genius 😂😂
He was too smart for them😂
I can even believe he's the smartest person on Earth - that Earth.
There's a SF-story by Poul Anderson called Brain Wave, where it turns out that our solar system was under the effect of an energy-dampening field that hampered neuron activity. After the Earth leaves this field every human and even all the animals get way smarter.
Every time i see stupidity on the level of the Flash i'm imagening their planet was just hit by the idiot-ray. Would explain a lot. Or in this universe the events of Idiocracy just started way earlier ...
@@theend-nz6vsI imagine that his inventions are made out of cardboard but the flash team is so delusional that they think and see it as high tech.
@@qua_xor3348 devo teleporting was him just riding on a scooter
I think he just has one more braincell than anyone on Team Flash alone or combined. If Barry’s IQ is 1, DeVoe’s IQ is 2.
When making this show the writers had two paths to choose: either commit to having Barry be OP and come up with creative ways for villains to outplay him, or commit to having a bullshit reason as to why Barry doesn’t use his speed to just end every confrontation immediately. Instead of choosing a path they just wandered off into the woods, got lost, and have been scraping by in a homeless mans tent, which results in so many scenes of Barry getting knocked down and just sitting there, refusing to use his powers for no reason other than plot convenience, while the villains monologue and then escape
Except they want to seem like they have reason why the flash cant beat anyone instantly by giving him this weird moral code which they dont even uphold themselves.
Bary let himself get caught because he didnt want to cheat the system, but then he gets out of prison by cheating the system.
He couldnt defeat Davoe immediately because "killing bad" but the way they finally defeat him is by basically killing him. It so dumb.
They could’ve easily made it so he can only be fast for very limited amount of time due to the amount of food he has to eat, and unless he’s in a good situation where he can refuel constantly, has to either finish the situation quickly or use speed sparingly. Saves budget as well, considering how they already make him just… stand there
@@pian-0g445 No, that wouldn't solve the problem that he can beat his enemies instantly. It's also just kind of stupid - a nutrition based limit to a superpower? That's just lame.
No, you really should just make his enemies tougher. It's not even that difficult. Fog control man from the first episode of season 1? Wraps himself in fog completely and makes himself invincible no matter how fast Barry runs because he's covered all over. Duplicate man? Hides his real self away somewhere and only lets his clones wreak havoc, so Barry can't find him and stop him. Poison cloud man? Is always in cloud mod and is intangible, so Barry can't just grab him no matter how fast he is. Etc. etc. Even just using the same villains and powers, you can easily just make them be a challenge for Barry. The writers are just literally too stupid and lacking in imagination to do it.
@@Arphemiuswell it makes sense tho, all versions of the flash (and any other character with super speed) they need constant food intake to replenish the calories they lose while running, so it would make a lot of sense for it to be a weakness for him, it could at least weaken him or make him slower
@@ramsehannema9076 I mean you can make any rule work for any superpower if you really want to, but it's still kind of lame. Also, he could also eat at superspeed, so for that to become a problem he would always have to be "unlucky" enough to get hungry and not have anything ready to eat so that he is hungry and slows down just when there's a supervillain nearby. Seems weird, and all "conditional" superpowers are kind of more wacky and unappealing - "I am super strong, but only when I wear a pink trench coat and have petted a cat in the last 24 hours", it's always kind of weird.
Honestly, just make the villains tougher, it really isn't that much of a problem.
You know Season 4 must be real bad in comparison to Seasons 1-3 when the naming has changed from “Insufferably Inconsistent” to “Infuriatingly Inconsistent”.
Yah that's true, especially the ending
Imagine what the other seasons will be like
It is
Next season should be called the Flash is inconceivably inconsistent.
Imagine the lightsaber season.
Devoe was actually not stupid. He intentionally acted stupid to bait Madvocate to create another Flash video to enlighten the viewers of the inconsistency of the Arrowverse. The enlightenment did happen in the end.
What a twist! 😃
Wow
😂
YOUUU GOT IT!
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂😂
“Flash time, put him in the pipeline.” Damn that bar goes hard.
Quick, someone sample this and slap a trap beat on it.
It’s so nice you could say it 25,000 times to represent a small amount of time that flashes by flashes eyes when he is about to get hit with something
Gotta make a banger out of that!!
@@anthonyrygalski6424 This sounds like a job for Noiselund!
I love how the whole routine of "we don't kill..." and "we don't have to kill anyone..." creates a massive rift to previous seasons and actions from these characters and it could be solved with writing, and not even clever writing at that.
All you're missing is a god damn "...anymore." at the end and give them a singular moment of guilt and then never bring it up again. It's a bit patchy and it doesn't solve all the other problems with the show, but it's issues like these that shouldn't even arise in the first place lmao
Ralph's actual power is calling out Team Flash when no one else will. If only the writers didn't do it half-heartedly.
The best characters are the ones the show wants us to hate the most
@@egg7540 how berry is the best character lmao cuz i hate him the most
@@somakun1806Not Barry, he is talking about Ralph
@@somakun1806 as mr. egg said. the characters the show wants us to hate. which the show doesn't want you tohate.
@@anvithrai4133 Ok but his statement can be used for anyone
It's funny how Ralph is the biggest narcissistic scoundrel but somehow also the only one that ever takes complete ownership of his mistakes.
and at least for some time, being the closest thing to a rational person in this show.
What’s more narcissistic than proving you’re more mature by owning up to your mistakes. It’s more believable and successful than your common garden variety narcissism. It’s a common tactic of communists and those of the woke persuasion. Though in the case of the latter it often manifests in admitting to a lesser crime.
Hahahaha
@@deliciadeconta2596 Yeah. Then they ditched the actor due to nonsense allegations when twatter mob tried to cancel him. Then the show went even further downhill, as hard as it is to imagine that.
@@Grivehnit wasn’t allegations it was because of tweets that he indeed posted. However those were written by him several years before he even started to work on The Flash and imo those tweets obviously didn’t reflect the person he actually is/was at the time he got fired.
"Hey, remember when Barry wasn't dumb?" "Yeah me neither"
Well, maybe before he got his brian fried by that lighting bolt.
I can’t imagine how painful the existence of these characters must be. To have onset dementia, have a brain made up of caterpillar hair, and be inconsistent in every aspect of existence because the writers decided to abandon the characters to a fate worse than death. Imagine having an insurmountable obstacle on an hourly basis only to overcome it the next day as if it were nothing only to forget how you did it then repeat. Poor team flash
He has ADHD
Also it's worth noting that Iris' whole "yOu LEft mE!!!" routine was deliberately done in a room with someone who did not know Barry was the Flash. Therefore Barry is not allowed to simply respond with "The planet would have literally exploded." He is forced to pretend she is right because his only other options are to look like a manipulative piece of crap or reveal his secret identity to a random stranger.
She set all of that up to force an apology out of him when he never did anything wrong. This is why people hate Iris. She's psychotic and incredibly entitled.
There’s so many times in this show where I question how Barry is still with her that scene and the scene where thawne is helping his daughter Nora in the future. Barry takes Nora back to the future after finding out because he cannot trust her at all. He knows anyone and anything to do with thawne is a red flag even if he says he wanted to help her. Well anyways after he takes Nora back iris flips out on him cause he just did it and took her back without talking together. Iris absolutely freaks out and Barry explains himself. After explaining what thawne means to him and his family iris says she actually just doesn’t care because it wasn’t her mom and her daughter is still gone. The most unsupportive couple I’ve ever seen and they are portrayed as a power couple. So selfishly wanted him to stay and let everyone die, and completely unsupportive wife over what is clearly the most scaring thing to happen in his life. Imagine when iris mom or Eddie was dying and she was crying about it if Barry just looked at her, went meh, and shrugged his shoulders.
Tbh barry could have used flash time, explained it to her and exited flash time
Your stretching into that so much, it's obviously not meant to get that deep, your just nit picking at this point
True. Barry suffers from Stockholm syndrome.
@@yappingtonFTW not even that man. After the therapy session just maybe pull her to the side and be like okay, I’ve said it already but I want you to hear it again… I did not in any way want to leave I had too, everyone’s lives were on the line. And pretty much in a nice way say get over it.
In Injustice 2 when Flash fights Braniac there’s a really good intro dialogue that goes like this:
Flash: “You can’t control me, Braniac!”
Braniac: ”My intelligence far exceeds yours.”
Flash: “My feet move faster than your neurons.”
Which basically should’ve been every fight between him and the thinker
They could have literally made flash a weaker character by just making energy consumption his his greatest obstacle, making his use of speed a lot more calculative, giving the flash team more of a work around than just absolutely speed.
@@ArthKrystdepends, he needs to be in that speed only when in need not all the time
@@AnnamPrasanth Yea but it's not a hindrance.
It could he used as a reason to not use his powers, and the talking he does could make sense that he's trying to talk them down so he doesn't have to use his energy.
@anishkr2567 I'm the show ge eats high calories bats because of this problem which affected him long term but with the solution we never see him eat a bar of it ever
@@ArthKrystHaving the Flash needing to actually accelerate instead of immediately being able to go super sonic would nerf him a lot too. It would be very comic inaccurate but at least you could have a show
Okay but the real Clifford’s dead body exists, so Ralph impersonating him should absolutely not have worked
Somehow the police just let him go without any investigation 😅
The one time the Flash decides to run after the guy, he loses his power 1:42:27
The writers are high af
😭🤣
A small nitpick. When Barry was arrested and later in the courtroom leaving for an emergency. There is no way a prime suspect in a murder case would be allowed to even move an inch without the police being present.
in crisis on Earth X, stein fuckin died on earth x, but SPEEDSTERS CAN FUCKIN TRAVEL WORLDS, so stein and everyone else wouldnt have gotten stuck on earth x to have stein fuckin die on earth x
Not a nitpick, Barry leaves the courtroom and seconds later Flash appears meaning a person with common sense & this knowledge, would know Barry is the Flash
@@aakashsancheti9614Berry goes to jail, and suddenly Flash disappears, and even that's not enough, why do you think this one counts 😂
I noticed the same thing! That’s not a nitpick, that’s a game breaker!
@@ab-gail what comment do you mean
i think irises superpower is gaslighting and manipulation and it works so well that most people in the flash tv show dont see how horrible of a character and a person she is.
And it is a real pleasure watching the so called fans just watch her act all pissed, take her side sometimes, and not see how much gaslighting and manipulative she is throughout the show👍
I want her to die ASAP.
Hate her
Nah compared to the Flash and his friends, she’s a saint
@@egbertmilton4003yea fr, like barry didn't have any problems with stealing and killing and kidnapping in the first 3 seasons
1:47:25 didn't flash have the ability to make speed mirages that essentially accomplish the same thing?
Barry forgetting he has super powers is definitely something that happens a lot though lol.
Take a drink everytime you hear there's nowhere to run, difficulty: liver failure
The sad part is that it's not even the actors fault. It's the horrible writers
exactly, i think the actors are great. just the goddamn writing.
@@fearlesstay Don't go overboard here, the actors are decent AT BEST. But yeah, that also is the directors' and writers' fault.
@@92brunodf credit is given where it is due, they all have plenty of moments where they prove they are good actors. It's common sense to know that bad writing will affect how the actor's skills are portrayed.
anyone can act easily
@@eddieedward656 I think you're underestimating acting
Nice to see this series being consistent with its inconsistency.
@@slevinchannel7589why the actual fuck are you copy and pasting this under almost every top comment?
with the amount of stupidity shown it makes me think the creators DELIBERATELY make it stupid so we wouldn't take it seriously and would just turn out brains off, lol. There are some things that could be fixed with a couple lines of text but no, they proceed to make it more stupid than it needs to be.
@@slevinchannel7589Bruh I don’t think they’re saying the channel is inconsistent. Sometimes sure, like how he didn’t criticize sonic for being inconsistent when the first at movie sorta was and whole trip was sorta pointless.
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Well when it comes to disappointing the CW never disapoints
2:56:08 he said he was going to start working on Season 5 but we want to know how long
Prolly late this year he hasn’t even started watching it yet
@@hermanporter1747 nah late next year most likely
@@emiliomarbanjrI’d say early next year, late next 2025 is pretty late
@@JosephPao more like 10 to 12 hours long
@@hermanporter1747he is watching now
I love how Barry and the gang gets progressively more idiotic. Imagine how long Season 5's is gonna be.
It’s honestly really unfair, and borderline unprofessional, to say that this show is inconsistent. This show is the most consistently terrible piece of media ever made.
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@@itszvy 👍
I would argue that batwoman has it beat. They had a show about lesbians in spandex and couldn't get men to watch it. At that point, you really need to hang it up. Because you are completely terrible at your job.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
The show is consistent with it's inconsistency
I would love to see a remake of the flash which is just 10 mins each season of him acting intelligently and cuffing everyone, like an any% speedrun of the show.
Add in some sections with him trying to work through the villain of the week's personal problems, whether successfully or not, and it would become a kind of hilarious superhero therapy show.
I would like a remake of the show where someone who can actually play the Flash goes back in time and stops every Flash timestop event, causes another Flashpoint where the show is removed and the premier shows every episode being Thanos'd from the CW's website.
@@franklinturtleton6525 that's unfair. The actor did fine, it was the writers that couldn't *write* Flash that were the issue.
Only if they make the Flash pre-new 52 Wally. He has enough charisma and lovable energy to carry 10 minute shorts really well. Part of the problem with this show is CW didn't feel just a flash show would be interesting enough and heavily relied on side plots, extending plots, and using side characters to fill up time because Barry couldn't carry the show.
@@theendersmirk5851 no, nononononono. Grant Gustin way too whiney and emotional to play the stoic and cool-headed Barry Allen. Any piece of media has him freak out in DIRE situations but whenever Grant's Barry is inconvenienced by anything he has a meltdown.
The saddest part about the flash is most of these problems could be fixed in 1-2 episodes MAX like hitting someone at Mach 5 could have been explained with Barry hitting a meta and eviscerating them which could explain his hesitancy to fight and why he doesn't use his speed in fights to its fullest advantage
By hesitancy to fight i mean standing around and being useless while having the ability to end any and every confrontation in a picosecond 😉(Excluding other speedsters and other absurdly fast moving superhero's/villains)
1:55:00 to be fair, he did say "have", meaning he wanted to kill those people
Excellent point
I like how Barry is able to EASILY out run lightning but also at the same time is shown to have visual processing speeds that are worse than an average human. It is like they keep forgetting that a speedster needs to have utterly bonkers reaction times just to be able to run without constantly obliterating people around them like A-train from The Boys.
Not even that, they need the insane reactions to not obliterate themselves while running into buildings
@@TheAcademicSavantYo what 😂😂
@@TheAcademicSavant"Flash wouldn't be able to come"
I wonder what source you used to acquire such intimate information
@@TheAcademicSavant "And his come would kill Iris."
Haha, holy shit, how come I never thought of that? The moment he shoots his load, it would rip through her and shoot out of the top of her head like a bullet.
A cum bullet.
Nice.
@@pedroivog.s.6870in the Tv show “TheBoys” PopClaw,AKA A trains Girlfriend, got Oral six and her come blew the guys head out.
One punch man is everything I’d actually want a flash show to be, first and foremost being self aware about how massively overpowered the main character is.
Exactly Isekais now days even now how to right overpowered characters as well
But the flash is not a parodical character so I don't think it would work like that
@@thesongwriter4294It would because it’s The FLASH. Literally no-one besides other speedsters or those who cannot be physically touched should be able to blink before Barry cuffs them, strips them of any weapons and then puts them in the cell. It’s that easy. There’s no reason 99% of these villains should even be a threat.
Exactly. It's like the writers are robots who've been programmed to need the main character be an "underdog" who gets his ass kicked before he can be allowed to win. That is not the case. He is a superhero, which means his failures could be failing to save other people, rather than himself. That could weigh on him as much as physical injuries might on a less powerful character.
It would be much more fun if they kept Capt. Cold as some comedic side relief instead of an actual threat.
I just noticed right in Episode 1, Joe not only has bad trigger discipline. (Hand is on the trigger) But he is standing behind Wally and Cisco if either one of them moves into his line of fire when he shoots and can't react in time which in Cisco's case he probably can't then one or the other is just gonna wind up dead.
I know Madvocate probably doesn't want to make these for every single season but holy shit do I really hope he covers the full series or at least Season 5 and 6(I bowed out of watching the show from Season 6)
I have never laughed this much watching a horrendous series being torn apart like this 😂
Love the repetition of seeing Atom Smasher, Sandman and Savitar being killed over and over by Team Flash, while lecturing others on the morality of murder. It never gets old.
It kinda does, wouldve probably sped it up after the tenth time.
@@dodojesus4529gotta get that three hour runtime somehow. I really like these videos, but let's be honest, this video could've easily been half the length it currently is. And that's still being generous.
@@dodojesus4529he would not let them get away with it and I am happy with that
I mean, it would've been better if they had woven the times they needed to kill into their hesitation to do it, but they act almost as if they have never taken a life at all in this season, and that's what really does it a disservice.
Sandman is actually still alive, even fake jay confirms this in episode 2
I'm convinced now Barry 90% of the time just puts lightning around him for show but in reality he's just running at normal human speeds lol
He's a lightning manipulator not a speedster 😂😂
@@PrinceVegeta2134567that'd be an interesting antagonist for a non speedster DC character. A lightning manipulator with very minor super speed that pretends to be a speedster.
He forgot how to do the super speed, his biggest weapon is making people think he can still do it by doing the lightning
Nah, most normal people don't just stand there and get punched repeatedly. Barry's slower than normal.
So everyone else is just pretending he's fast? Like a Truman show for metas, or like that movie (Bolt?) with the superdog who then realized he wasn't super.
I love how angry and exasperated he gets when reviewing the show over the span of even a single season, very relatable
I'm watching this video six months after and I realized something in episode 18 lose yourself. Barry said they never have to kill but at the end of season 4, Barry assisted Ralph into getting his body and mind back, the thinker died during that. And let's not forget how his wife killed him too when he consciousness was inside the chair. So the thinker died twice in one episode
"Id rather go to prison for life than to fabricate evidence even though I know I am innocent"
>gets out of prison because his friends fabricate evidence on his behalf an he thanks them for it
"I will do anything to stop the thinker, except kill him"
>end up stopping the thinker by erasing his consciousness, which effectively kills him
I feel like the writers realize how op the flash is so they put him under some ridiculous moral constraints so he doesnt just instanstly win, but at the same time they arent smart enough to cleverly get around their own rules so they just have them not matter in the end and just dont acknowledge it.
It is such flimsy and unbelievably bad writing. Its not just the bad set ups of action scenes which could be maybe excused, the core structure of the plot itself breaks your suspension of disbelief.
@tobiasbayer4866 the shows not inconsistent for nothing lol
As I like to say: team flash is morally good sometimes maybe
My theory is that Barry actually perceives everything in flashtime constantly so by the time he turns around to see a villan has walked around a corner he's already forgotten about them
That would make sense
My powers are super speed and super ADD
ADD + ADHD grindset
So Barry is retarded?
uhm, if he perceives everything in flash time then how does the moron, get hit by people, and loses to villains when they are right in front of him and not take them out, and if he perceives everything in flash time how does he talk, super slowly so other can understand???
1:26:20 Notice how she's at first fully capable of defending herself against DeVoe in an intelligent way, but AFTER training with team flash she decides to stop and talk? They really trained her well! 🤔
LMFAO FR
Holy shit that’s hilarious 😂
Lmao, my exact thought during that scene was “well she learned from the best”
How did I not notice that? Holy hell, that is the funniest thing ever
so THAT'S why DeVoe kept letting Team Flash get to the Metas first.
Funny how Barry thought it was a good idea to bring Izzy Bowen to DeVoe knowing that was exactly what DeVoe wanted 💀💀
48:19 the only excuse I have for Barry telling the cops everything is because he’s also a cop by proxy and naïvely trusts them
You need to hand it to Barry. Intelligence has pursued him since season 1, but he's always been faster.
@@detroider7844mach 3 is a little over 1km/s yhat is not faster than light
@@bigessa2556 ok
@@bigessa2556”um actually” vibes
It’s the only time he doesn’t stop to talk
He's a crime scene investigator, there is zero excuse for him to be this dumb ngl
Stopping to talk would work in a world where the Flash was so competent, that he doesn't feel the need to immediately incapacitate a person. He just rocks up, trys to understand the goomba and if they aren't the type to calm the fug down, cuff em.
Spiderman can do this cus hes actually competent
@@ocbmega1011also spiderman isn't super speed and does his taunting while getting shit done, and uses taunting as a tool
The Flash actually did this right once, when Barry had to deal with a gang of card deck villains sometime in season 8. He stopped to let them let out all their card puns, and made immediate work of them once they jumped him.
@@egg7540 yeah. Too bad its in fucking season 8. Took him 8 years. Also season 8 seemed like it was gonna be a saving grace and maybe the writers managed to return a little competence to the show, and then season 9 happened 😪
@@ocbmega1011 fr Spidey's got it
Here's the thing about smart characters in fiction. They can only be as clever as the writer's. It's one thing to say they're a genius. But their actions will make them look stupid if the writing team is stupid.
Facts
It's probably also worth mentioning that using normal people on the street to spot Devoe doesn't work if Devoe, being the smartest person alive, sees the very public blog post where people are trying to find him, and uses his shapeshifting power to look different.
1 Simple fix to most problems is just to say that the Meta Cuffs need to be configured to specific meta abilities.
Therefore Flash needs to stop to talk, get enough info about the power, and then Cisco configures them and idk wirelessly uploads them to the cuffs so that Barry can put them on and have them work or something.
That's quite a smart weakness, considering the weird concept of one single tech that neutralizes several abilities (as if it was some dispell magic thing).
Congrats, you’re smarter than every CW writer ever. This is actually a clever way of allowing dialogue and tension when Barry could otherwise defuse everything instantly
Got any other plot hole fixes?
@@danguerette2099To be fair, being smarter than a CW writer is not a high bar to clear.
Idk, Barry could just knock the metas unconscious and bring them to the dampening room, no cuffs needed.
@@wkoya4803they are talking about a fix to whatever was actually shown in the show. This isn't a film, and so it makes sense if the writers include some banter between the heroes and the villians. But this is a good reason to validate this talk.
I love the "genius scientist has to use intelligence booster for really basic stuff" because it implies that the writers had a really hard time thinking of this stuff. That is how stupid they are.
I read that as soon as my boy said it
if flash had half the iq of quicksilver in this series it woulnt even have 2 seasons
Even ignoring the superspeed, working in an environment that requires your attention and quick thinking skills actually allows you to react faster than normal, meaning that everyone who’s been in the field in this show should be better at their jobs, especially the speedsters 💀
I love how Wells having to use the intelligence booster to come up with normal plans works completely because everyone else is too braindead to even come up with half sensible solutions
wells had to damage his own brain to the point of being less smart than iris just because barry wouldnt fucking take down devoe
Its actually the flash's thing in the comics to stop and talk to his bad guys too, because he believes that they can change. The main difference is that the comics version is smart and fast enough to react when stopping to talk goes wrong, whereas this show just has barry/wally getting absolutely destroyed whenever they stop to talk, which is every episode.
I agree it's slightly better, but I'd still argue that it's way smarter and safer to talk someone down after capturing them and locking them up in a meta prison
@@mac1991seth well yeah but most villains in the comics actually have a counter to flash's speed, like captain cold's cold field, heatwave temp manipulation, golden gliders speed force sap, etc
@@DaDonroy101 Okay, that makes sense. Way more sense than running into a beam of cold "because".
That and the comic version snapped thawne's neck.
@@mac1991seth it's kinda crazy how they skipped over crucial parts of characters equipment, like the only instance i think they didn't have these counters was in there first outings then developed them later after facing the flash for the first time (because comic villains always escape prison)
50:46 I forgot he cucked himself to send Barry to prison, that’s reverse flash levels of dedication😭💀
I keep getting annoyed at madvocate repeating "knock him out" or "cuff her" over and over. Then I remember "oh thats right!" It isn't Madvocate I should be annoyed at. It's the writers for creating such a long period he has to fill explaining their mistake.
Iris literally saying “Barry, knock him out and then cuff him” is so goddamn funny I can’t put it into words
And then he proceeded to do the exact opposite. Comedy gold.
Ok
It is easy to put into words just like in the video: "It is funny because it is true."
Not only did she say that but she said it twice!!!!! Twice!!!!!
@@spongebobsquarepants2981SPUNCHBOB?!
Wdym "inconsistent" Barry consistently stops to talk and consistently let's villains leave. Seems pretty consistent to me.
There's no where to run!
already been said before
@@dudududu1926 that's what my parents say when I try to move out of the house
stolen comment from another video
Word for word
The cutouts on the faces for your little graphic are really nice and really tie the video together.
I really hope you at least do one more season. I love watching you tear this show up, it deserves it. So many dumb things, I could write a whole different script for this video.
Hey, give DeVoe a chance. He was a good villain, especially in the episode where he said “it’s thinkin time” and started thinking all over Team Flash.
They say that I’m on the roll maybe I just lost control
Jokes aside, devoe is actually very underrated in my opinion
@@minilla2934burn ur opinion
@@minilla2934i haven't watched season 4 but i can see why like holy fuck this mf is even worse than Savitar
@@minilla2934 He was a better idea than basically any other main villains for sure. Its just a shame a villain called 'The Thinker' was handed over to CW writers... notorious about their inability to think. For what its worth, I liked the Thinker, despite his brief appaerance, better in the Suicide Squad movie played by Capaldi.
@@1o3mj no
I love Madvocate’s brief little affections for Ralph.
Y’know when Ralph is consistently a good character and not sacrificed on the podium of “CW’s highlight reel for kicks”
Yeah he was really good. Too bad he got into trouble. But even he wasn't enough to save the show.
I genuinely think that this is the season that really was the beginning of the end for this show. The upsides of this season is the suit and maybe the concept for the thinker which could have been done much better. It really does shock me how little Barry actually does in these scenes which annoys me so much because the flash is my favorite DC hero. Anyway love the vids keep up the good work.
1:54:19 Even Ralph knows that he should cuff her instead of looking at her 💀
"What if I create a vacuum around him?"
Thats... not how radiation works...
The cw probably thinks birds arent dinosaurs because 'they are not big enough.
Its literally called radiation
I think radiation can travel through vaccum@@joaopadua7134
Everyone knows radiation can't travel through a vacuum.
Meanwhile radiation travelling through the VACUUM OF SPACE
to be fair the guy is generating air kinda
Idk man, I'm really happy CW made the show the way they did. I would've never laughed so loud for 3 whole hours if they didn't.
Same
holy shit this video is 3 hrs???💀 i didn’t even realize
Me too. I literally cry tears watching these videos 😂
TRUE 😂😂😂
@@Sergio-wm5duRight it just flashes through💀
hearing weasel drowning out of nowhere always cracks me up xd
1:02:41 couldn’t Cisco like open a breach under Trickster and like put him at the precinct or something
Couldn’t he do that to anyone should Barry be preoccupied
Yes
the magic cuffs really create all the logical problems in the show, huh. Imagine if instead they had to actually study the abilities of the person and figure out a specific solution to detain that person... that would give them a reason to stand and talk and not just immediately apprehend the villain
Still dumb as hell, you'll have plenty of time to study them if Barry knocks them out with super speed.
@@liquidanimations3397exactly. Even without the cuffs he can just relocate them.
he wouldn't just knock them out because he wants to try and resolve things without violence, and relocation could be dangerous with a meta with unknown abilities - they might have a power which does something dangerous in contact or when in proximity
@@applestheheroI know Barry has a wallnut for a brain but I still think he could recognize the value of saving tons of lives with the only loser in the situation being the villain who got a mild concussion is a lot better than putting civilians in harms way for a nice chat
Is the risk of instant knockout or relocation high, yes, but is it higher if you just stand and wait with your thumb up your ass while the villain makes a move, also yes
Barry Allen refusing to be the Flash while imprisoned is made even worse when in Episode 12 he drops a random inmate off in China without anyone noticing he's gone. Meaning that Barry could easily superspeed out of his cell, knockout or transfer said supervillain to iron Heights, and then comeback without anyone noticing.
he tried it once and immediately got caught by a hidden camera
@@MisterTTGAND??? who gon stop him? He gets caught blinking on camera all the time. Crossing the ocean isn't slower than staying in the country to a place you already know?
It may be possible to explain why Barry always runs so slowly, because if he runs faster than sound it would create a sonic boom, like when airplanes fly faster. This bang in a city will break a lot of glass and possibly cost some people their hearing. (I realize that when he goes into Flashtime this phenomenon should occur) but in some scenes it happens, like when he fights "God Flash" (the speedstar in the white suit), or in really "heroic" moments sometimes the windows of the street get broken.
1:43:51 wait? This is the first time she is using the speed force. How in the hell does she understand how to use it.
SEASON 1 SHOWED HOW BARRY HAD TO LEARN HOW TO USE THE SPEED FORCE. If my memory serve correctly.
If that’s true, THERE IS NO WAY HER MIND OR BODY WOULD UNDERSTAND USING THE SPEED FORCE ON HER FIRST TRY. 😭😭
Barry in episode 2 managed to learn fully how to stop time
@@Eric6761 bro they could’ve made a whole season of him learning the speed force. Missed potental
I have the theory that there isn’t a script for this show, they just gather the actors somewhere with the recording crew and come up with the scenes on the spot
if that was true, we’d have ghost stories version 2
@@wrightcemberdamn, live action Ghost Stories would actually go hard
@@SunshowerWonderlab it would…
Honestly it'd be a more coherent show if they did that
No way you really think so
Also you didn't mention it, but Devoe could still prevent himself from being spotted in public by simply using Ralph's ability to morph into someone else.
"The smartest man alive" 😂
LMAOCJAKDJKSKFKEKFKF
"Calculate All possibilities across different earths"
What. A. Joke.
So, just because Barry is vibrating from side to side so fast he can't be seen doesn't mean he's not there. In fact, it actually makes him an easier target to hit because he's technically in 2 places at once.
if cecile is a telepath then why dosent she just reed devoe's mind to know what his plan is and how to stop him
This requires writers having braincells
1:42:05 I love how this was the one time that Barry decides to chase after the bad guy after he runs away and it just happens to be when he loses his powers. Outstanding
So fucking true
The worst part is that are more scenes that more frustrating than that one
A masterpiece of comedy
lmfao didn't even realise that this is actually the only time he makes an attempt
In season 5 it is revealed that Kaitlyn/Frost isn't a Meta, which means that the meta cuffs don't work on her. Meaning she shouldn't get captured in episode 9.
I realize that Kaitlyn loses her powers to Devoe in episode 18 again. This is explained away in season 5 but the explanation is stupid.
But they didn't know that at the time. So why didn't he try it?
The Flash has been inconsistent with Killer Frost. First it was Flashpoint then she became a Hulk like character and then much more.
Firstly, any cuffs will restrain her or at least make it harder for her to move. Secondly, wtf is this name Kaitlyn? Is it really how it's spelled?
@@kikosawa For what it's worth, it's spelled "Caitlin" in the show.
1:01:45 No, they are hypocrites for not criticizing their ex mascot. Flash putting people in danger can still be bad, and them being hypocritical doesn't change that.
Barry has fought and defeated
His future rival who is just as fast as him and always 1 step ahead
An earth 2 speedster thats faster than thawne and can capture anyone in the blink of an eye to hold hostage
His future self that is litterally an infinite loop,is faster than a speedster can proccess and knows everything he will do
HOW IS A SMART GUY IN A BIG CHAIR MENT TO BE STRONGER THAN ALL 3 OF THOSE
Sometimes I worry that my writing is terrible and inconsistent. Whenever that happens in the future, I will go and rewatch this video, as a reminder that if something this inconsistent and this riddled with plotholes and characters just being stupid for no reason other than the plot needs them to be stupid in order to happen can be a big successful TV show, then a few small inconsistencies or plotholes won't hurt my books that like 3 people read
Agreed.
A lot of people write by thinking of a start and end then connecting them, but that's where inconsistencies appear. Instead you should start with a vague idea and add detail to it. Foreshadowing can even be done better like this because it may even appear unintentionally.
@@puppergump4117yea, that works pretty well
@@puppergump4117thats more then likely what they have always done
There's a flash comic where some villains talk about how central city is a no go zone because of how insanely OP flash is. Somebody needs to send the writers each a copy of the issue.
bro chased someone to the end of the universe for a lollipop
If I recall correctly I read somewhere that Flash’s Rogue’s Gallery have a truce with him saying that they won’t harm innocent people so long as Flash actually gives them a chance at a fair fight. That’s kinda hilarious that his own villains convinced him he’s too OP and needs a nerf
@@shadowofdread7018not even just that, a good number of villains actually respect flash as a person.
Not that they don’t hate him for foiling their plans, but a few actually recognise him being a good person.
The 'self-destruct' thing really bugs me.
For it to even work, the evil Barry would have to be another version of this Barry, since a doppleganger wouldn't have the same suit. First of all, Cisco is relying on the evil version of Barry using this suit, which the writers kinda forgot the evil version of Barry from only one season ago did once very briefly.
Second of all.....well we don't actually know what was in that manual Cisco handed Barry. I am going to assume that the self-destruct sequence is in there, because otherwise Cisco failed to notify Barry there was a bomb in there. But that means that Cisco notified Barry of the self-destruct sequence, meaning that any potential evil version of Barry will know about it.
Third of all, he just publicly announced that the self-destruct sequence exists. To all of Team Flash. To a team that two times in the last three years have seen one of their close friends turn out to be a supervillain. To a team which once saw it revealed that the villain was secretly spying on them (season 1.....holy shit does this show like to recycle plot points). He did it right next to Caitlin, WHO HE KNOWS has a secret supervillain alter ego who retains all of Caitlin's memories.
Fourth of all, and this does bug me.....why doesn't Devoe destroy Barry. I know you want to say 'oh he wanted access to the speed force', but he can easily use Wally. Devoe doesn't activate the suit's self-destruct at any point. Heck, it might even just be enough to buy him time to complete his plan whilst Barry dealt with it. If you say to me that Cisco installed safeguards.....WHY WEREN'T THEY THERE BEFORE?
Fifth of all, the self-destruct can be stopped by electricty. By shorting out the suit, with an ability that any evil version of Barry is fully aware of.
Sixth of all, does the self destruct lock Barry into the suit? Because otherwise, what is to stop an evil version of Barry from simply getting out of it?
Seventh of all, what is the trigger device for the self-destruct?
Actually, the Flash is the most idiotic hero there is, one of his villains throws ice, and the Flash does what?, waits to hit him. the biggest enemy of the series the flash would not be iris for what she says (we are the flash) but rather the director for writing meaningless episodes and a ridiculous story
I think people tend to forget the only way for a non speedster to beat the flash is to have some automatic defense, like sand man or Senestro
Or in this show
A door
@@molassesman4066 I'm pretty sure he could be defeated by a banana peel in this show
@@potatolord2196the mostly deadly foe, "Removing Floor Hazard Signs Man"
@@molassesman4066or a ten second diversion
@@coledog10 telling him they are leaving then walk away
Slow enough that vegeta goes "he-s fast!"
Iris being completely insufferable is the most consistent thing about this show.
But.. they need drama!
Since the first season. And the crying chick from Arrow, Oliver's original girlfriend. Even the nerd that he gets in a relationship with later became insufferable after the 3rd season.
@@rutwickgangurde3247in Laurel's defense she thought Oliver got her sister killed. I won't defend felicity. She has no excuse
@@patrickfisher2817 Laurel's journey was a hot mess, but she had her reasons. Iris and Felicity will be ok with something one day, then make up a reason to be upset about it the next day. I hoped Iris would have brought stability and be a voice of reason, qualities of a good leader for team Flash. Instead, her character was turned into a source of drama
Nah bro, the Flash ain't inconsistent. It's consistent at being inconsistent :)
hey last time i checked some small balls are stornger than the flash 20:10
Last time I checked a normal gun is faster than the flash
I like how Barry claims that he doesn't kill, but then he goes ahead and suggests, "Hey Ralph, let's extract you from DeVoe's brain, effectively erasing him." What exactly did Barry anticipate happening to DeVoe? Did he believe that DeVoe would miraculously emerge unscathed, in a different body alive and well?
To be fair, when it comes to killing a psychopath murderer in exchange of saving someone i think it goes away the morality aspect of no killing.
You can effectively spin it into, saving Ralph and sucks for DeVoe for body snatching someone else.
Still that doesn't fix all the other murders from Team Flash part. Or how DeVoe could have been stopped way earlier before it got into that point.
IT’s is difference with a low killer or someone like grood but Devo is a trying erase the mind of the world and is a psychopath
DeVoe killed himself and left his body in Barry's apartment
@@santiagovidelaleivathe problem being that if it’s ok to kill Devoe then, why not kill him earlier?
@@inquisitor9207 When you have powers like the Flash, a "no killing rule" makes sense, you are so incredible op that most situations you can solve without any blood spilled. But in this particularly case, there really isn't an answer to save Ralph and arrest DeVoe at the same time, you have to chose one and saving ralph should have priority.
Why don't kill earlier? why is even needed to do that? he could have removed him out of his chair and lock him in a cell in less than second before any of this happen.
While there are no real life laws or ethics about body swapping or body stealing, i would argue that in the Flash universe you can say that DeVoe killed himself. The victimized host of any body swapping shenanigan should always take priority against the perpetrator. And because DeVoe destroyed his own body, he simply sealed his fate without leaving any possibility of his own arrest.
The Flash can be a bad show but at least they can be consistent following these simple sci fi ethics. The unintended host should always take priority... right?...
Also, since the cork sphere is now destroyed, shouldn’t the speed force now be raining hell on earth and demanding for Barry to go back into the speed force?
Some other possible memes to use for Barry's talking habits:
Loki - "And we both know you LOVE to talk... talkie talkie"
Tokyo Ghoul Kaneki - "Can't you see I'm trying to talk? Shut up and listen"
I find it amazing that each season of The Flash somehow found a unique way to be worse than the previous one by far.
truly impressive
Remenber, there is no end to human imagination for both great and compeltly retarded things. Afterall we nearly destroyed ourselves during the cold war because the US though it was a smart idea to detonate a nuke in the skie.
@@slevinchannel758911:10 just proving guys point
Just wait until season 7, it ends with barry and evil flash having a lightsaber duel on a rooftop (I am not joking)
@@samcraig8533 Yes but what about my comment?
During Flashtime Jessie went to Earth 3 to get Jay Garrick which implies she opened a breach, but earlier in the episode it was established a breach can’t open in flashtime.
Jesus Christ...
Omg, you're right
"But she's a speedster so it's different 🤓."
I swear I loved this show and I still do but I can never see it the same again after all Madvocates criticism videos and you guy’s comments I was honestly shocked how inconsistent this show is!
@@AdhvaithSane You and me both!
There is something special bout hearing theres no where to run followed by the smash music
There are ways to make super speed less intimidating...
1. Villains who can manipulate momentum.
2. Villains who can fly.
3. Villains that are incredibly heavy.
4. Villains that can change their shapes or structure.
5. Villains that can negate powers.
Basically whatever a speedster has to rely on such as traction, their speed, breathing, basic anatomy.
DO BETTER CW!
I really admire Madvocate's optimism. Considering he has seen Barry for 3.5 years of in-world time, Madvocate is still confident that if Barry was not in prison he could've cuffed those metas and saved people in the process, despite Barry not doing that 99.5% of the time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
99.9%
I don't think he actually thought he would. I think he just missed not being able to say "cuff 'im" and "cuff 'er".
The nuclear bomb episode is when I completely checked out of the show
Flash can walk casually and hold multiple conversations while a nuclear bomb is in the process of exploding
He's moving at 99.98% light speed
He's unstoppable
Nothing past this episode makes sense
That's where I completely gave up on the show even when i liked it back in the day.
This is one of the biggest speed feats of the entire show and should allow barry to statue almost every opponent. Him touching someone at that speed would feel like a thousand freight trains hitting someones skull at once.
If he had some kind of temporary amp going on at the time it would make sense but no this utterly obliterates any excuse barry has against a non speedster giving him an entire episode amount of trouble.
then you didn't pay attention to earlier seasons, as he did a similar thing in early season 1, when he was WAY slower. And Madvocate even shows a clip from it in this video.
@@superbrainz2357 watch early season 1. Oh wait, turns out he could do it pretty much from the show's start.
He can beat anyone
@@tabalugadragon3555which scene/episode was this?
I loved this series so much I hope you can find the time to make more. I used to think the show was good but I stopped watching after a few seasons but couldn’t figure out why. Now I know that it was because the writing was atrocious and you’ve shown me the light. I love your editing style and meme choice it’s exquisite and I can tell you put 50x more work into this than the flash team put into continuity and I would love to see more take your time and don’t die from the bad writing. And remember there’s no where to run from flash. 😂
you know how they said argus had a way to check for transmogrification detection, all they had to do was have a throw away line saying it wouldn't work and the only option is ralph
Something i just realized: season 5's main villain, cicada, is created from the explosion of the satellite, which only happened due to constant incompetence from barry in season 4. This means that every single person that cicada hurts, kidnaps or kills in season 5, regardless of how much it makes sense in the moment, they will have to fall under the "should have been saved" category.
Yep. And since Barry should have K.Od Thawne, cuffed him, and relocated him to star labs in crisis on earth x instead of letting him escape for no reason, he wouldn't have been there to help Nora fuck up the timeline which also caused most of the crap that happened in season 5 as well. Barry is such a brainlet.
Since the episode flashtime basically says flash is faster than light any death is basically avoidable
@@jackunknown1692 Flashtime was established in literally the second episode of season 1. They only started calling it flashtime in season 4, but it was established way back in season 1, plus, he's the fastest man alive. Every death caused by the villains should be avoidable when you have superspeed.
@@Frank___hassle__this gets worse that even if Flash was in Mach 1 he would be 10x faster than most cars nowdays
Tbh the entire problem is that the show wants to be a drama, but The Flash is more of a comedy that sometimes gets deadly serious.
Madvocate, you forgot to mention when Iris complained that Barry left her alone in the beginning is inconsistent with Barry allowing himself to get arrested knowing he's leaving Iris alone again 😂
She brings that up during the trial and acts all pissy when it’s used against him during it.
And why wally wasnt using super speed to fight sameroid
How is that inconsistent though? She was still upset about him being gone the second time just not at Barry. And Barry believed he had no choice because he would’ve been on the run.
@@sweetxjc That’s because Barry is an idiot.
You know I can understand why you dont want to make more of these, if I had to listen to myself say "knock him out knock him out knock him out knock him out cuff him cuff him cuff him cuff him cuff him cuff him take the bag take the bag take the bag" for 3 hours id die
29:22 To be fair... Savitar was going to die even if Iris didn't shoot him. All she did was speed up the process tbh.
If you do Season 5, you should do a count of useful items and powers the show forgot about.
Genius!
It’s gonna be so painful for him to watch 😂
anytime Ralph is on screen that's like 6 or 7 powers forgotten lmao
Specifically invisibility
They do not use that as much as they could have
True. He should just do season 9 though. That was brutal.