An honest reveal of the Ludwig Classic Maple drums
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- This is my honest review of my Ludwig Classic Maple kit. I tell you the good, and some of the things I wish Ludwig would consider changing. Remember, there is no processing on the recording. All the EQ's are flat, no reverb, and no other "studio tricks".
I played these drums with the stock Ludwig heads still on them, and I did not cut a port hole in the bass drum. This is as real and true a review as I have been able to find.
If you have further questions, please feel free to email through my website: www.JaredRibble.com
Ludwig sounds better than DW to me
Exactly !
The Classic Maple drums were originally designed to not ditz out in a loud mix of live music. These drums changed the drum world in the early 70's. I love my Classic Maple drums.
Ludwig sounds the best. Period.
Amen
When I was little and first got into drums, my dad always said ludwig was the greatest drums. I can say that today and he still does as well.
These and Gretsch Brooklyn’s, my favourite of today’s drums.Forget DW at those prices.
Finally a review from someone that know how to review a kit!! Thank you!
Thay sound really asome it’s got that 70’s sound . I have my accent combo for about six years with clear pinstripes remo
I have a 6 pc Ludwig nat maple lacker, they been with me for 35 years and the sownd is impecable,they are power toms but the tuning is clean no dampening or tape.
I have an older set of Ludwig Classics that I play wide open, no muffling except muffled heads on the kick. They sound great live. Even my bandmates have commented on how these drums sound.
Before the Ludwigs I played another brand consistently. The Ludwigs changed my mind on how drums should sound. Whatever Ludwig does to get that sound I hope they never change. I'm hoping to get some of the new Ludwig Keystone X drums in the near future.
I have to play a lot of backline kits that aren't Ludwig when I am doing fly dates. It's always astonishing to me how other brands are not nearly as "open" sounding. You can always focus the sound on a ludwig kit, but you can never open the sound up on a kit that just doesn't have it. Go play some Keystones. I would love to hear your take. I find them touch too bright and harsh/attacky. I wish they had would have done a traditional 45 degree edge, rather than the dual 45. The dual 45 for my taste gives the drums too much attack, and it doesn't work for me.
Jared Ribble
Interesting take on the Keystones. I've tapped on some at Forks and liked them a lot. I have an oak/maple hybrid Ludwig snare that I like a lot too. I'll dig into them more.
Thanks for filling us in on using a bigger stick if we need to. Sounds ok. Need to spend some more time on n tuning. Or changing heads. Tune em up well so we can hear the beauty of the great Ludwig sound. No sense in going half way.
Ludwig Drum Heads! Something I’ve just discovered with trying different heads is how good and controlled, not to mention easy to tune, the Ludwig Weather Masters sound. The Heavy is a 10mil and the mediums are 7.5, they’re crimped not glued, you can hear on the video how warm they sound. Ludwig needs to bring them back in full production, I think they’re only available in 12,13,14. Anyway FYI ✌️
These drums sound great. I have a vintage 1968 Blue Sparkle Ludwig Kit complete with Zildjian cymbals and all hardware for sale if you're interested.
What you said about stain finishes vs. wrapped finishes is absolutely true. I have two Ludwig kits. One is a mahogany stain finish and the other a green sparkle finish. I love them both and they both sound amazing, but the mahogany stain kit sings just a little bit more clearer. Especially the bass drum. Thank you for this video, it is very informative.
I own 89' classic with 24" bass and 18" floor. Replaced the top with Remo powerstroke & Evans resonant bottoms sounds Amazing!
I love how the toms hold their own against the snare. There is no Tom drown out from an over blasting snare. One of the best sounding kits.
Glad you like it! Thanks!
@@JaredRibble I do Jared. I'm a Ludwig guy all the way.
I've listened to your drum review repeatedly over several months just because the drums sound so good and your review is an honest one. (btw I just bought a Classic Maple Kit in Jan 2017 and I've ordered a 18-in CM tom through Forks Drum Closet). Thanks for the review and thank you for the great website. I hope others will check it out. You have a great story to share.
Thanks! Check out my latest reviews on the Legacy Maple.
Ludwig is one of those kits, where every drum you hit, you smile. The toms, the snare, the kick.. I have played them all, and so many good kits out there.. I do not know how to describe it, I just smile when I paly a Lud kit.
nice! I'm looking into one of these, bigger bass drum and a 6 or 6.5 snare, do you have a Ludwig Classic?
Can you clarify what you mean by a "Ludwig Classic"?
Jared Ribble maple
Love the Ludwig drum sound.
Strange. I have a Pearl kit and a DW kit also and i don't find that Pearl mounts are super stiff and i don't find the DW mounts are super bouncy. Maybe it's the way you set up your kit.
Killer sound and look. Those ghost notes on the snare sounds incredible. Better than any DW or Pearl
Great video, thanks for posting the sound without effects/ EQ.
I have same with 16x22 bass drum and with 8x10. Galaxy sparkle, love them. Great vid, my only very slight regret is not ordering with a 14x22.
That's interesting cause I'm considering ordering either the 14 x 22 or 16 x 22. What do you think is the difference? Is the 14 a sweet spot or better tone?. Thought I may go with the 16 for a little more power going through the drum. Not that I'm any kind of a metal head though. Any advice?
@@user-xe6gx6wh4g just remember that the deeper the drum is , the longer it takes for air to move from the strike to the resonant head. So a 14 deep is a shorter punch and depending on how you tune ...higher or lower, with slightly more attack.
A 16 gives a deeper but a little less attack . Also 16 is a little easier on your joints because the rebound isn't as fast.
@@SalMichael Thank you sir. I think I'll go with my gut and the 14 after all. Cheers!
@@rainsong7327 I flip flopped again and went with the 16" depth. Mostly because of my age (56) and ease on the joints. I love the warmth and tuning range of the drum and couldn't imagine not having it. If you prefer a bit more punchy sound and tone go with the 14. Just remember, Ludwig Classic Maple are beautiful drums and they sound great no matter. You won't be disappointed. Cheers!
@@rainsong7327 Sure a 12, 16, 22 setup works very well. Although I've only heard a 12 x 8 tom before. That's a very nice punchy drum with great tone. But if you're into the 9 deep for up top nothing wrong with that. There's nothing in this world like having Ludwig print a 1 off work order for your very own custom kit. Its like religious, haha. Best of luck!
I have a Ludwig Classic Maple made in 2010 and it's truly amazing. Try putting Evans EC2 heads on yours if you haven't already. SUPER powerful and it rumbles like THUNDER!
Oh, yeah. I love the EC2 heads on the toms for sure. Massive. That's what I think is so special about the Classic maple. They can roar. But I also have a classic maple kit with G1's tuned up, and they can whisper without sacrificing tone.
I always come back to watch this video, i love the sound and tuning of the toms way too much.. They sound unreal!
Since 2008 I still have my accent combo kit tom’s are deep 12-13-16-22x14 bass drum and 6x5x14 snare drum it’s black.saw one at guitar center it looked beat up and needed a deep cleaning Ludwig rocks 🥁🤟
I gotta say I'm enjoying reading your comments; polite, educational, and you take a stand and say WHY you prefer Ludwig at this point in your career...you stated your opinion, backed it up with evidence, politely disagreed with others...I think the internet might just break. Oh, and the kit sounds ridiculously good...especially the toms
Thanks John! Check out my latest videos using the Legacy Maple.
czcams.com/video/6W2TOnbIjOc/video.html
Like this. With my eyes closed, not knowing ahead of time, I could have guessed they were Ludwig. No joke, I have done the sound test with other kits, I can always hear the Ludwig classics. Good review.
Beautiful! I've got a lovely mid 70's Ludwig kit, love the sound. They truly sing! And on your part, some amazing tasteful playing!
I don't have much to musically say on the drums. I mainly am a vocal accompanist. I also don't find review videos useful when the drummer is showing his chops.
I started on Ludwig they lost me in the 80's I have several hi end sets but just use a Yamaha stage custom on the road works great and sounds good , however I'm back into Ludwig big time I'm gonna pull the trigger on a set of keystone x with a B3 snare love his partnership with Trick and the sound of that aluminum snare !! Classic maple 🍁 always sound great to my ears as well 👍
These sound great!
The toms sing like I would expect maple toms to sing. I found little tonal separation between the 12 and 13. If you’re a 3 rack 1 floor guy then the sizing makes sense... 14” toms on top are pretty unwieldy.
I like my Tom sound to be punchy and have significant low end using basically these same heads (coated ambassador). Most brands these days have high end and mid level drums with 6mm maple shells and it almost comes down to the look and hardware versus the shell itself, with a slight nod to the bearing edge.
Where Ludwig missed for me is in two places; the bass drum. I didn’t find the amount of pure low end that I wanted in the drum I played, at similar depth to what I use (22x18) but it was consistent among other comparable depths. Also I didn’t care for the ATLAS Tom mount compared to others for reasons mentioned here (they stick out a ways) and because I didn’t like the look, as well as had potentially unfounded concerns about long term stability.
Ludwig has come a LONG way and it’s nice to see a significant resurgence in US made drums. I found that another US brand worked better for me in terms of look, sound, and hardware design, but in terms of pure value, Ludwig rises above.
Sounds fantastic, I can't wait till I get my Classic Maple's!
All around beautiful. Best of luck to you in all your future endeavors 👏🏼🌊
Really enjoyed listening to you talk and play very informative. You look really comfortable behind the kit and play very dynamically. I've got a beautiful little Ludwig classic 4-Piece kit myself. They call it plum but it's a very deep purple gloss finish.
wow, thanks for the kind words. I'm trying to show the viewer what this kit can sound like if the musician performs in quiet situations, or louder situations. (but I do contend drummers need to continually work on more dynamic playing) Now that I have had this kit for quite a while, I can say this kit can get really loud, and tends to sit best in a mf to ff dynamic range. This kit can work in quiet situations, but now that I have a Ludwig Legacy to compare it to, I use the legacy for my performances which require a gentler touch.
@@JaredRibble I distinctly remember the second album I recorded with my band Vinyl Radio. We did it reel to reel. On the first song I went in play threw it went back in the booth and it just seemed like the kit wasn't singing it wasn't holding a note very flat too much attack.So I went back in I took all the felts off of my cymbals, except for the hi-hats of course I just loosen the clutch up a little bit. Gave the top and bottom heads just less than 1/4 turn tighter left the kick drum alone. And instead of playing like I was at a live gig I use Dynamics like I do when I'm practicing in my third room. We all went back in listen to the playback it was like night and day that was back in 1991. And I've been following that rule to this day. Even at smaller clubs I'll ask the engineer pull us down enough so people can talk. They always look at me like I'm nuts. Then we finish the set and it's always the same reaction. Like you Dynamics are so important most drummers just don't even think about it it's a shame. Best luck to you in all your endeavors in the future. 🥁🇺🇸
Love the way he layed into the drums with bigger sticks....and dang they sounded sweet. Ludwig lover here...
I have to play in environments where a tender touch (and small stick) is really important. I also have to play in situations that require a really big sound. What's the point of doing a review when the player is pounding away? That only tells part of the story. So, I appreciate you seeing how it's important to show the entire dynamic range. I will also say that these drums can take even bigger and louder playing than what is shown in the video.
Jared Ribble indeed
hmmm interesting take on the rack mount position. I have always preferred bass drum mounted rack toms and have always positioned them like you have them here but your saying you wish they could come closer to you? I have never thought about hanging the rack tom closer so that in hangs over the bass drum?
The combination of where the factory places the mount hole, along with the style of tom mount (L rods), there was not an easy way to get the toms closer. I generally don't have the toms hang past the bass drum rim, but a 10" tom was not as close to me as I would have liked. It took some engineering to get the drums to sit where I like them, verses the Pearl style tom mount where you can simply slide the tom on the rod closer or further away from the drummer. For the record, I did get them into a position I liked. It just took some engineering.
Of all the videos demo'ing classic maples, this one is easily the best. Thank you sir !
Well, that is very kind. I am going to work on some others regarding Ludwig snares, and Evans drum heads soon.
I am close to pulling the trigger on a CM kit with similar sizes as yours. Looking forward to the snare video !
Great sounding drum kit.specially the tom’s.it really has a deep tone which I like.
Love Ludwig. I prefer the deeper Supraphonic snare drum
And tama always had great hardware as far as bounceiness goes they're right there with Ludwig
agreed.
Strainer is too tight. We can hear it choking on light hits.
All the drums sound awesome! Snare sounds a bit choked, but that's probably just over tensioned.
You are right about the snare sounding choked. This was me setting the kit up, and playing it almost right out of the box from the factory. I got a little too aggressive with the snare strainer. Over time, I figured this out and loosened it up. I think it sounds much better and more appropriate on the video I did comparing the Classic Maple vs. Legacy Maple. czcams.com/video/uakrR8JrhFY/video.html Same kit and snare in both videos.
@@JaredRibble really love your tom sound! I have a 1976 (I think) Ludwig classic set and I would like to have a 10 inch Tom for it, it's a white cortex. I have been experimenting putting single-ply heads on it lately all the double ply heads I put it on it makes it sound pretty dead. I just recently bought a set of those attack clear heads and they really sound live I'm really liking the sound the sustain is incredible, and it just has those old bolt to the Shell brackets! I have put rims mounts on it with the double ply heads and with the single-ply attack heads it has actually more sustain with the bolt to the Shell brackets then it does when the rims mounts with single-ply heads, believe it or not?!
Its only $20 for an entire set of clear 12, 13, 16, and 14 inch coated head! You have to really stretch them out first though because they are those crimped heads and not glued to the hoop.
Great demonstration overall, sounds amazing, and love the chops as well.
Thanks for the kind words. Definitely not trying to show off, just trying to show the drums.
They sound very nice!
I have a Ludwig Classic Maple 20"x14" bass drum with the tom mount. The problem w/the tom mount is the opposite. The toms are too close to the front of the drum in my opinion. The toms are up close and the bass drum is too far away. I now use a virgin 22"x16" bass drum so I can have the toms anywhere I want. Pros and cons to both..
Thanks for watching. I was having to talk quickly to keep the video short. I think my point was the Atlas tom mount doesn't allow for easy positioning front to back as some of Ludwig's competitors (DW, Pearl). For one player it might put the toms too close, or too far away. Now, I did get them into position, but it takes some effort. More than anything, I was trying to make a point that the toms mounted to the bass drum didn't affect the sound of the bass drum. This was a surprise to me, and my first of 7 Ludwig kits that I have had non-virgin.
but even with the Atlas mount , couldn't you disregard it and just use a couple of tom mounts for the 10,12 and 13?
certainly, one could disregard the tom mount on the bass drum, and use single stands to mount the toms. I have done that for years, and wanted to give a chance for the bass drum tom mount to help eliminate some stands. Again, to my surprise, the bass drum didn't lose much resonance.
Jared, thanks so much for your expertise. One thing I have noticed, and it was pointed out by Dr. Gadd, is that some prefer the bass mount because you get a little resonance between the toms and bass that add a little sound to the toms when hit that you don't get when virgin. Absolutely love your playing style and skills.
Hey Jim. That's a great comment, and something for drummers to look out for. Like Gadd, I agree that it's the sound of the drums, and when I am mixing a record, I try to leave that tom vibration in as much as possible to make the kit feel more "live" and full.I With all my Ludwig kits (virgin, and non), I haven't noticed much of a difference in the amount of sympathetic ringing of the toms. All of my Ludwig kits do it. Sometimes it can cause the sound engineers some problems, though. In fact, I just finished with a soundcheck today where the front house was struggling with my floor tom on this kit because of the sympathetic vibration, and it was creating a feedback loop.
USA all the way! good pick and great sounding drums dude 👌
Hello,
I really like the presentation of your Ludwig.
Can you tell me which support you use (what reference) to attach your 8X12, 9X13 toms to the bass drum and which support you use for the 7X10 tom?
Best regards.
Those have some meaty, fat, tones. Obviously tuned lower. Pretty cool! I'm more into 2" tom separation though.
Mike StClair I played Yamaha drums for most of my time as a drummer. Had a Pearl kit for about a year too. When I got the Classic Maples I was absolutely floored by how ‘big’ they were. I immediately felt like John Bonham. It took me a bit to get used to it. It kind of frightened me at first 🤣
The snare has to be my favorite of all the snares I’ve played. I live Yamaha snares, but the tone on the 405 supraphonic is sublime. I can see why they’re used for a lot of recording.
Very nice review, thanks, i'm surprised by the sound of the BD without any dampening.....
I was surprised too! Not very boomy at all.
Great sounding drums anyway.... Thanks for the reply....!
How do the CM compare to the Legacy Series, Maple or Mahogany? Great review and playing. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Victor. The Classic Maple to me is the perfect balance of bright without being harsh, while including a full bodied tone on each drum. Nothing about the CM's is harsh, or overly boomy. This is partly because of the nature of the Maple, as well as the 45 degree bearing edge. The Legacy series Maple has an inner core of poplar, which adds a few more degrees of warmth to the sound. However, the 30 degree bearing edge and reinforcement rings is where the drums lose their resonance in comparison to the Classic Maple. Thus, I find myself wanting to hit these drums harder to try to get them to resonate longer, and I get disappointed. The Legacy Mahogany takes this lack of resonance to a whole new level. I have only spent a tiny amount of time with the Mahogany at a launch party for Ludwig artists. I played the kit, other artists played the kit. The kick and snare were great from the player's perspective. The toms lacked tone and resonance. Then, when I stood in the room while other guys played, the whole kit lacked presence, tonality, and resonance. Close mic'd in the studio, the kit could work. A club where mic'ing is nill, the mahogany kit as no chance for me. This is largely because of the dark sound of the mahogany, coupled with the poplar, and the 30 degree bearing edge. Add reinforcement rings, and a wrap and this kit will be very dull in comparison to the Classic Maple, even the Legacy Maple for that matter. Now that I have completely crushed the Legacy Mahogany, I would like to give it a shot in a musical environment where the drums would need to be tuned up pretty tight - jazz combo club, or even a jazz combo large hall with smacky walls. The dark wood, with short resonance, tuned up high and tight, might be the perfect combination for these drums and my playing style. In fact, it makes me a little excited thinking about it.
+Jared Ribble thanks very much for the excellent information.
damn, you know your drums! and I agree with you, this Classic Maple does sound good.
Should I get a Ludwig Element evolution or Tama imperial star
Great review! I’ve been in the market for a new kit for a few years trying different ones in person. Everything from Tama, DW’s, Gretsch etc. My question is what would you recommend: A Ludwig USA maple or a Gretsch USA custom? I should add that I play everything from jazz to rock to hip hop. So I am looking for a versatile investment this time around. Thanks for the time reading this!
Gretsch USA is a great kit. My experience with them however, is they do not have the dynamic range as the Classic Maple from Ludwig. When I would really dig in on a Gretsch it would bottom out, and even start to choke. Hey, there are some big rock guys that play Gretsch, but this has been my experience.
Can someone please help me identifiy my Ludwig drums with the following serial numbers.
I’d like to know what year they were made?
I appreciate it
LUDWIG CLASSIC MAPLE DRUM KIT CHERRY
3449397 13in Tom
3449396 16in Floor Tom
3449398 22in Bass Drum
P3 Remo coated or un coated 🙌🏼
I would start by contacting Ludwig with that information. They should know.
Ludwig drums have always sounded more wide-open/louder than most other brands to me (at least on these internet demos) Is this actually the case or am I imagining it?
"Wide Open" is a great description, but I would not necessarily suggest louder. Because there are more overtones in these ludwig drums, there is simply more sound. But not always louder. In the beginning of the playing, I am using a tiny 7a stick barely touching them. They certainly weren't loud, but they can take a beating if I really lay into them.
To really hear how great this drums sound live with a band, check out the live clips on our channel! (-: No muffles on toms.
Hey Mildrid- Love the funky stuff. If you are back in the studio, or doing a live recording, I would love to mix it.
Nice that you like the funky stuff ! One of the guys in the band are doing the mixing, but thanks anyway.
Nice tuning...Full, warm tones 😃
The Super Classics are amazing. To each his own but the tuning on this guys set is way lower than what I personally prefer.
I understand your thought on the low tuning. Typically this kit lives in my recording studio, and drums tend to record better for most modern applications in a lower tuning. (the exception would be jazz combo styles) I was taught this trick back in my college days by some of the major studio drummers here in Nashville. Now that I do a lot of album mixing, I must say it is true. Drums on stage tuned up higher can cut through the mix, but in the studio they lose a lot of the necessary body to make a full sounding recording.
If you need to get the toms closer, look into a rack.
Great kit and nice video. One quick question. What is the name of the black finish on the kit?
I believe it’s saber black.
@@Dummertrummer Thank you for the answer.
Ludwig Black? 😉
Fantastic!
So how much does a set of drums like this one cost? Thanks.
I just got a quote for three classic maple drums from Sweetwater and its about $3200.
Way to go, Ringo.
interesting read these comments! im a drummer from aus and it recently became difficult in australia to get these kits. how do you think the Classic Maple fairs to the Legacy Mahogany or Legacy Maple? I play generally rockier music and all I really have to go by is what I hear on youtube haha have you had any experience with Q drum?
I have not had experience with Q drum. I just got my Legacy maple. czcams.com/video/6W2TOnbIjOc/video.html
It is beautiful...but with limitations. It is not a loud kit. It is very warm and round. The classic maple has more bite to the sound, can get quite a bit louder, and
How do these compare to the 60s vintage re sound and price.
These don't really compare to the 60's vintage. The 60's vintage are a little less resonant and a little darker. If you are wanting a new version of the 60's vintage, look into the Legacy Maple.
Fabulous sound.
Did you go with the mini lugs or the classic lugs? I'm ordering a double bass classic maple.
These are the mini lugs, other than the snare.
josh pilcher I am fairly confident this is not black cortex as that was a wrap being offered. Rather this is Sable Black which is actually a lacquer paint. It’s on the pricier end of finishes because of the intense amount of coats required.
@@FearlesslyNetwork Your right. Sable Black is the lacquer finish. I ordered my double bass kit yesterday in black cortex all atlas mounts, atlas bass drum anchor spurs, blue and olive badges. I think I told you, I live an hour away from them. You know if you buy one of there high end kits they will give you a tour of the factory. If you want the lady's name and number let me know. Thanks for the video, Thumbs up!
josh pilcher have you been on the tour yet? I’m a Ludwig artist and when I was in the area they gave me the tour. It’s great. I was really blown away with the lacquer/paint area. It really made me realize how much effort goes into making their USA lines.
@@FearlesslyNetwork It's been a pleasure chatting with you. I'll do the tour when this virus blows over. I went with the Black Cortex. I wanted to keep mine old school Ludwig as possible. The same cortex used on there concert bass drum's and concert toms, If it's good enough to be played by Orchestra's in Symphony halls it's good enough for me LOL. Plus it's applied during the shell molding process very durable sealed like a time capsule. Good thing about your lacquer if you scratch it you can buff it out with no problem. Don't believe anyone who tells you wrap or mounting toms on the bass drum effects the sound. That's what gives Ludwig that classic sound. Some of the best albums of all time was made that way. Keep up your good work and Thank you. Your Ludwig friend.
Prefer the classic but an excellent presentation. I also have been a Ludwig only guy for my 69 years...
Dang! Sounds pretty good for not showing-off! Hahahaha... JK... Nice job! The big stick really did bring out the juice!
Nice chops !!
The company’s are killing me with their flat drums these days.
What sizes?
choking out???? in my country that means choking your chicken
How do they keep in tune? The Ludwig lugs and hw in general is something that people usually complain about.
I think the toms and kick hold as good or better than other brands. The snare holds decent as well. This particular snare (the 5x14 maple) doesn't call for really hard hitting. I have it detune more through head stretching than tuning screws backing out. With that said, I do have black beauties, and 6.5x14 supraphonics. Yes those lugs do back out where the power hitting is taking place. Those drums naturally are made for hitting harder. The harder you hit, the more the screw is going to move. I have good success with the little plastic lug locks at the one or two tuning screws that move. However, do Ludwig snares detune more than other brands? Probably not.
how much are these drums go for?
I am sorry I don't know the exact answer to your question. Obviously, the more drums you add, the higher the price goes. Also, the finish changes the price. If you were to use one of the wrap tight finishes (marine pearl, or sparkle wraps) the price is less than if you were to have the finish be a stain or lacquer like the drums in this video. Seems like you can get into a 3 piece shell pack on Ebay for $1600-1800.
That's a nice black finish.
What do u use for kick pedal?
Thanks. I didn't know it at the time of order, but that finish is the hardest to do, and the longest to complete of all the Ludwig finishes.
Depending on the situation my pedals change. For big arena type tours, I use my Axis with a DW beater on the hard side. For symphony and Performing Arts theaters I play with a jazz vocal artist I use the Ludwig Atlas Pro with their standard felt beater that comes with the pedal. In my recording studio, I have my kit set with an Atlas Standard, and I use either the felt side or hard side depending on the song. As a side note, I was really surprised with how much I like the Ludwig Atlas Standard pedal. It is far more solid and meaty a pedal than one would expect for the intermediate hardware line.
Nice def has that great classic sound plus with more projection. That floor tom is beastly.
wrap takes some high end off...GOODD =]
When you're testing the sound or showing us the sound turn off your snare wires please
Nope it’s better with the snare wires on .
Does the bass drum with a 22 inch diameter only come with 8 lugs per side? If so...boooooo!
No sir. 10 lug bass drum, 6 lug toms.
THEY LOOK GOOD BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DRUM HEADS NEED TIGHTING
Supra phonic, that is
sounds incredible good, what a tone, all, the toms and the snare , magic shells, but the irons like lugs, screws or tension rods, hoops etra are from a bad quality and have a lot of imprecision which give a lot of tunning problems and you need to stay tunnig constantly, but are beautifull and its true which this one sounds amazing and ina superbeautifull way with a incredible tone, the day ludwig change that they gonna stay at the same level of tama or pearl which is the place they need to stay, any screw go straight from the hoop to the lug and this is not good, the rubbers beetween the lugs and the shell are really cheap, you cant pay this money for they give you that, is the problem, the screws of the lugs are bad quality, i saw a lot of ludwig toms with brown stain in the screw painting the wood arround the hole in brown...., not possible in this price range of drums...., the day they change this i buy a classic maple, they can stay living all his life from the bonham,s fans, they need to change in a modern way... but sounds amazing.
I've had my classic maple kits all over the world. I don't experience the issues with the screws as you describe. Are you describing the Classic maple series? Or are you referring to the mass manufactured lines (Epic, Element, etc.)?
Cos I appreciate your enthusiasm for Ludwig. Let’s keep this column civil, though. All the major manufacturers have fine tuned their craftsmanship to put out very good quality gear. It might not be your taste and match your artistry. While I am truly a Ludwig guy through and through, I encourage you to not demean someone’s hard work in a drum factory. We are all in the same family of drummers. Regarding the snare in this video, you are correct that I did have the snare wires a bit too tight. Loosening those up a bit and the drum gets fuller for sure.
Great review, awesome kit. Also, use some ear protection!
Ah, yes. Rare is the time that I am playing drums without ear protection. I think in this case because I was talking and playing back and forth, and I wasn't playing a lot of cymbals, I quickly shot without my ear protection. But yes, I am a huge advocate of ear protection, and glad you are too!
Really nice drums. "Reveal" is not a noun, though.
Language arts is probably not my strong suit, so thank you for the help. "An honest revealing of the Ludwig Classic Maple?" Using the word "review" just sounded too boring. Help me out. What's a better title for future videos?
Well, honestly, I think the word people are usually really looking for when they use "reveal" as a noun is "unveiling". But it's pretty popular to use "reveal" the way you did here these days, and it probably doesn't bother 99% of people who see it. I'm just a little uptight about language for some reason. But as far as "unveiling" goes, in this case I think you are looking for something more along the lines of "assessment" or "appraisal" or "evaluation" maybe? I don't know - I'll stay out of it - the main thing is that it's a nicely done review, and you are an excellent drummer so it's a pleasure to hear this - thanks a lot for posting it!
You are wrong. The word reveal can be used as a noun and a verb. You should confirm before correcting someone. Look it up..
I'm more of a Keller guy, I liked dW when Keller made the shells check out sjc truth older pork pie none of the mainstream makes use Keller only custom shop
Keller shells don't have the dynamic range. Their tone is fine, but they choke when the drummer really lays into them with a big stick. It is always interesting to me to see a Punk Rock drummer playing a kit made with keller shells. I think to myself, if they only knew how much more tone and sound they could get.
I know lugwig been around forever, but in my opinion, DW drums got the best sounding drums ever. Don't believe me, check out dw drums on youtube and hear how they sound. To me, they sound much better than any other drums on the market these days
Hello Andy. Thanks for watching and commenting. I am very familiar with DW drums. For some time now it seems that every back line drum kit (house kit for festivals, stages with multiple bands) is a DW kit. DW makes great drums, for sure. But as I hope we all can admit, it really comes down to how the drummer/artist is inspired by the drums to create their art. If DW drums do it for you, great. They are very very different in sound and feel than Ludwig. So if you love DW, you probably aren't going to get too jazzed up about Ludwig. DW pride themselves with a very focused and pre-EQ'd sounding shell, with minimal overtones and harmonics. Drummers instantly sit down, and feel like their kit has been tweaked for them. Ludwig prides themselves with a very open sound with lots of harmonics. This may instantly feel to the artist that the drums are a bit out of control, and unruly. Ludwig takes the artist a little more effort to adjust these harmonics to taste. In general, it is these harmonics that make Ludwig a more sought after sound in the studios here in Nashville, verses DW. After the drums are hit in the room, pass through a microphone, cables, mic pre's, and finally converted to a digital signal, it is these harmonics that allow the drum to continue to sing and cut through all the other multiple instrument tracks crowding a recording. Because DW has taken out these harmonics in their shell design, by the time the drums go through the recording process, there isn't enough sonics left to get the drums to cut through and sound full. More often than not, DW tends to sound lifeless on recordings. The other major difference I experience when debating DW vs. Ludwig is the feel of the drums. Because of the shell design, coupled with their mounting system, DW drums bounce to the extreme. Obviously some guys love this bounce. This bounce is a bit too much for me, and makes them harder for me to play. Pearl on the other hand, is super stiff. They have very little give in their design. Obviously for me, Ludwig lands somewhere in the middle. The shells with their mounts have a little give to them, but not stiff like Pearl, or bounce like DW. Again, it all comes down to the artist, and artistry can change. That's why you see drummers change up the company they endorse. Over time, a new tool will inspire new creativity. Thanks again for watching, and commenting.
I prefer sonor and Ludwigs sound most!
I also enjoy some Yamaha kits for a close third,
Yamaha's Maple Custom, and Recording Custom when Sakae was making them were glorious. When Sakae left, and is now making drums under his own name, Yamaha just hasn't been the same for me. All the absolute series stuff that Yamaha came out with sounds too much like an engineered system, rather than an instrument. Sakae's drums for Yamaha had more musicality for my taste.
Yeah, I have an older Yamaha absolute maple nouveau kit. Love it. And a sonor prolite. I do still enjoy what I've heard of the new Yamaha absolute maple hybrid though. It's not my old with more punch imo. The Phoenix is still being made in Japan so I'm not sure exactly who is making that. I guess some of the guys who worked with the sakae guys that stayed with Yamaha.
Loosen the snare wiresssss
hmmmm...I'll give it a try.
Get on with it man
Hey is that with the small stick? Who cares. We will figure out what ones we need
Only talking ! Not play !!!
Hang in there...I play a bit. But I am not a soloist jammin...just showing the drums out of the box.
Ok ok ok.,Then use whatever stick that works ok. And play the drumset man. And skip the over kill review ok. Stop with all the freaking BS.
Why can’t I just be me? It’s ok if you don’t care for my artistry. There are plenty of Ludwig artists just soloing, and I have those videos floating around the internet too. But this type of video is for someone curious about buying a Ludwig kit help them determine if it is a good fit for them. Thanks for understanding.
Your right. We should all give instruction the way that works best for us. And I've watched so many different drummers and different types of instruction, lessons, and good tips to help other drummers. I think I may have burnt myself out just for a moment. So let me apologize for my comment. You had some useful tips I'm sure a lot of drum heads would appreciate. So keep on pounding and thanks for the time you spend helping.