Abandoned City Hall Station Tour 9/19/2023

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  • čas přidán 28. 09. 2023
  • Hello,
    This is some footage I put together of my visit to the original City Hall Station with the NY Transit Museum. Sadly, I accidentally deleted some of my original footage, so I tried my best to put the video together the way I planned with what footage I was able to recover.
    I also included some present to past comparisons with photos I took with the goal of replicating some rare photos I found of the City Hall Station from the NYC archives. All of these photos were taken by the contractors during the station construction.
    These photos are only a small handful of thousands of photos taken during the NYC Subways construction. Those of you who follow my channel for the Beach Pneumatic Transit, I am planning an update video including rare photos my friends and I discovered after searching in the archives. The photos present in this video will give you a sense of what is to come for my update video. Stay Tuned !

Komentáře • 103

  • @ScholinaGaming
    @ScholinaGaming Před měsícem +6

    Best video of City Hall Station I’ve seen out there.

  • @cgimovieman
    @cgimovieman Před 7 měsíci +23

    Such a legendary place. Back when our infrastructure really had artistic quality and attention to detail to it. I really wish this whole station could be fully restored and made more available as a museum. Also think it would add to the ambiance to use old Edison filament style light bulbs inside.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Yes it is sad that this place is inaccessible to the public, I answered a recent comment similar to yours that explains why this station is not utilized as a museum and/or opened for the public to see.
      It is very interesting how the location and sentimental value of the station keeps it in a state where this station is abandoned but still checked up on and not left to rot or adapted like other early subway stations.
      Also, Post 9/11 sentiment plays a big factor in preventing this station from being open for the public. For example, the city will probably never open this station to the public again because it is located directly underneath City Hall.
      The lightbulb idea should be considered by whoever is in-charge of this station !

    • @42luke93
      @42luke93 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I don’t know why they would put daylight lighting didn’t it used to have a soft white color?

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, although well preserved, it needs a good cleaning and for missing tiles and the damaged light fixtures to be addressed.

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci

      I wish they'd quit marketing that "daylight" color to the public - it's awful. @@42luke93 Yes, there's modern LED in warmer colors, even mimmicing early Edison bulbs.

  • @wintersbattleofbands1144
    @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Amazing the original light fixtures are still mostly intact and working, but those modern "daylight" harsh bulbs are terrible.

  • @woodysills5117
    @woodysills5117 Před 7 měsíci +7

    As a former train operator, I've been thru there thousands of times. I've never seen it with lights on. Nice video

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Thank you ! Interesting from the perspective of a train operator, I did not realize that it’s rare for the lights to be on because I usually see the station from the window of the 6 train.

  • @raymondcastro2613
    @raymondcastro2613 Před 8 měsíci +38

    Always enjoy watching subway videos. I have taken this same tour twice. Unfortunately, in this video, it looked like they just dumped everyone off at this station without a tour guide. If that is the case, than you guys got short changed big time. Even before the tour group I was part of went down the subway stairs, our tour guides talked about the importance of the surrounding buildings, the neighborhood, and the politician like the mayor. And why this historic station laid the first building block for other stations.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +16

      Hello,
      There was a tour guide, I did not film that part of the tour as it was too loud outside. We did not get in through the original station entrance but it was definitely worth it !

    • @Dolph-nv8oo
      @Dolph-nv8oo Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@kbhastheanswer Too bad you were way more interested in forcing us to watch/listen to subways rolling by. Your video, out of all I've seen from urban explorers, literally sucks.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@Dolph-nv8ooI think it’s pretty good for my first video

    • @SuperheroJunior
      @SuperheroJunior Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@kbhastheanswer How can we get a tour to this historic City Hall station?

    • @kunalgaikwad8359
      @kunalgaikwad8359 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​new york transit museum conducts these tours

  • @RomaineMelvin-zi3iv
    @RomaineMelvin-zi3iv Před 9 dny

    Cool video best one out 👌🏾

  • @stegowolf
    @stegowolf Před 20 dny

    Thank you So Much for sharing your experience! I moved out of NYC with My parents in 86, and I had Never had the opportunity to experience this myself!

  • @MillerMeteor74
    @MillerMeteor74 Před 7 měsíci

    That was so beautiful. And I liked that bridge they used at the end for passengers to cross the gap. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jamesf791
    @jamesf791 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Thank you for sharing this video. I've seen a few of these videos, mostly people staying on the train when they shouldn't have. I would love to go on a tour like your group did of this station. The ornate of this station is amazing.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I’m glad you enjoy the footage !
      You can learn more about touring the station here:
      www.nytransitmuseum.org/program/cityhall-tour-6242/#:~:text=In%201904%2C%20New%20York%20City's,Station%20amidst%20great%20civic%20pride.

    • @kolmogorovaxiom1493
      @kolmogorovaxiom1493 Před 6 měsíci +1

      There is actually nothing wrong or illegal about staying on the train as it makes the loop

    • @jamesf791
      @jamesf791 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kolmogorovaxiom1493 not according to the MTA. But seriously doubt you would do it right next to an employee

    • @kolmogorovaxiom1493
      @kolmogorovaxiom1493 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jamesf791 I have done it in plain sight of employees, and I was not the only one in the train car. They didn’t care. And even if they did care, the worst that can happen is they tell you to get off

    • @jamesf791
      @jamesf791 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kolmogorovaxiom1493 sure you have

  • @SegaDisneyUniverse
    @SegaDisneyUniverse Před 7 měsíci +4

    I can't imagine how loud that screeching is, lol. And I bet it's pretty scary being there alone.😆

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +1

      It is very loud but being in the station worth losing your hearing for ! Must be terrifying to be there alone !

  • @murraykitson1436
    @murraykitson1436 Před 7 měsíci +2

    There appears to be a lot of "GIANT ZIPPERS " decorating the ceilings ! 🤣 I certainly enjoyed this video , thank you !

  • @debranchelowtone
    @debranchelowtone Před 8 měsíci +2

    Really nice!

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Thank you ! I highly recommend taking this tour if you are a local or love NYC subways

    • @debranchelowtone
      @debranchelowtone Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@kbhastheanswer I'm quite far but i visited Paris subway once.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@debranchelowtonethat’s on my bucket list to visit Europe and see the subways !

  • @clinttheweldor2653
    @clinttheweldor2653 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow, its very beautiful down there.

  • @mrxman581
    @mrxman581 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This was very cool and sad at the same time i can't believe they haven't come up with a plan to open up this station again. They need to rework that track to accomodate the modern trains.

  • @SuperCooly
    @SuperCooly Před 8 měsíci +4

    interesting video I didn't even know they still did these tours I came to take some photos in June and it was quite difficult

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +2

      The tour was definitely worth it. Wish I had a better camera to take more high quality photos but the GoPro did the job. I’ve rode the downtown 6 train many times around the loop and tried to take videos but always wanted to access the city hall station without trespassing. If you have the same desire I highly suggest looking into the nytransit museum who are the only service to my knowledge that offers tours of this Subway station.

  • @HarrisonPeloso
    @HarrisonPeloso Před 7 měsíci +3

    I’ve heard this tour is a lot of fun

  • @vancegilmore5821
    @vancegilmore5821 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Such a beautiful space should be used.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci

      I agree. It is still used as a turn around for the 6 train but I think this station has long out-lived/out-served it’s purpose for public use. We should appreciate that we still have the station relatively unchanged from its origins. if you know about nyc subways, originality is hard to come by now a days !

  • @timothywalker4563
    @timothywalker4563 Před 7 měsíci

    That is a time warp cool🤓

  • @Highline17
    @Highline17 Před 2 měsíci

    Looking at the gap, big reminder of why the ADA exists. NYC needs to bring back the artistic quality of the station tho.

  • @jediknight3206
    @jediknight3206 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How do you get tickets to visit the station

  • @wintersbattleofbands1144
    @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci +2

    While amazing as is, I think it's time for a cleaning and some tile restoration.

  • @Tigerking_Papi
    @Tigerking_Papi Před 2 měsíci

    How Do I get the abandoned City Hall Station Tour?

  • @geoffrey2246
    @geoffrey2246 Před 6 měsíci

    How were you able to get in a tour? Ive always wanted to see the station its just beautiful

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 6 měsíci

      You have to pay for a New York Transit Museum membership which is around $60 and with this membership you are provided free access to the museum.
      They also provide offers including tickets for retro train rides and visiting the city hall station but you must pay extra for these programs. For example, it cost 50$ per person for the full tour including a visit to the station. I think it is worth it for those who have always want to go in the station and you also learn a lot about the history.
      They do visits to the stations per season. Tickets are high demand and sell out within the first 2 hours they are dropped so make sure if you spend the money on the subscription you are the first one there to buy tickets to see the station.

    • @mrxman581
      @mrxman581 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@kbhastheanswerSo that would be $110 if a tourist wanted to see this station? That's pricey for a one-time thing.

  • @boazvahalla
    @boazvahalla Před 7 měsíci

    I almost work witv Willie of the MTA. I alwways wabt to visir the City Hall Station but I never,did.

  • @bluemantom77
    @bluemantom77 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Always wanted to go to that station every time I would go to j&r music world back in the day once in awhile when I could I would sneak on the train and for the ride back to the other direction just to see the station but I never actually seen it outside wish i was able to touch it smell the history one of these days I'll do the MTA guided tour

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I love hearing personal stories from before my time ! I definitely recommend the tour !

    • @bluemantom77
      @bluemantom77 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@kbhastheanswer I appreciate that must have been something for those people to ride the third avenue El that's before my time by the time they demolish that was some remnants here and there that's it the back then the Bronx where I grew up look like a war zone and I'm not talking about people shooting each other like today talking about the Bronx was on fire 🔥 in the 70's. By 77 the year I came into the world city was a mess the Bronx was a burned out disaster infrastructure was falling apart so a lot of things got closed up from neglect lack of use lack of funding for the maintenance I'm glad you like to learn I hope you continue to learn the city is full of wonders thats facts some of it long gone some of it we don't want to talk about but will never forget

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@bluemantom77 you are correct there are many mysteries to be solved here in NYC. I am grateful to live in a place where so much happened. Wish I could’ve been around to see many things, that is why I film these videos so when time prevails people of the future can see what we saw.

    • @bluemantom77
      @bluemantom77 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@kbhastheanswerI wish more native New Yorkers would be interested in curious about so many secrets in in New York City #5 train to Dyer avenue used to go all the way to white plains and that's the remnants of that old train line it was a commuter line want to port Chester NY to along the route of the New Haven line now would you go to White plains Westchester mall is was the terminus of that line

    • @gasaholic47
      @gasaholic47 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The 6 train was “my train,” as I’d pick it up at Pelham Bay, and ride it down to Brooklyn Bridge/City Hall. My mom worked at the Southern District Federal Courthouse, so I’d have lunch with her sometimes during the summer. Occasionally, I’d stay on the train when it would loop around and pass through the old station to get a glimpse of it, and then get off at BB/CH.

  • @skydragon8538
    @skydragon8538 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I just saw a video of some guys that jumped of the train when the subway made its loop around this station from the final stop to get to this station, lucky for them they were not caught 😂

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Scary, It looked tempting to get some footage inside the station alone. I saw a video where this guy jumps onto the moving train to leave the station. I don’t know if I could see myself pulling something like that off so I opted for taking the tour !

  • @MK-hh1vo
    @MK-hh1vo Před 8 měsíci +6

    🤔 So why don't we use this station anymore? Something about the curved platform and the length of the train cars??? I don't get it, the group boarded a train here!!! Regarding the curved platform, there's a solution at the south bound 14th St 4/5/6 platform that works well; it's called the "moving platform". Can't we use that here?

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +9

      They closed the platform in 1945 because the curved platform created issues for the new, longer trains of the Subway hence the loud scrapping noise you hear when the trains go by this station. This noise is caused due to new the trains being much bigger and not suitable to go around the steep curve.
      Also, the station was made with the purpose to serve the people of its time. For example this station only has one area to enter/exit, with this entrance being located within an area of City Hall Park which is only accessible to authorized individuals. It would be interesting to see this subway station be used, sadly, it was abandoned for a reason because it would not be practical to accommodate the demands of the modern day subway.

    • @MK-hh1vo
      @MK-hh1vo Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@kbhastheanswer Thanks for the follow up! I hear that screeching sound regularly on the subway; I didn't realize it indicated a problem! I get it now!

    • @Ostermond
      @Ostermond Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@MK-hh1vothe original IRT Subways all had entrances/exits at the very ends of the cars; little open-air vestibules where people could hop on and off before going into the enclosed part of the car with the seats.

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci

      It doesn't. It's an artifact of the sold-axle wheels moving at different speeds on the inner and outer rails. It has noting to do with the length of the cars. @@MK-hh1vo

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@kbhastheanswer The screeching wheels are an artifact of the sold-axle wheels moving at different speeds on the inner and outer rails. It has noting to do with the length of the cars, more to do with the severe curve of the track.

  • @42luke93
    @42luke93 Před 7 měsíci

    This train station used to work because it used to just be two entrances from the rear ends of the trains

  • @dan797
    @dan797 Před 7 měsíci

    I lived in Manhattan for 40 years. I never knew this existed.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci

      I lived in NY for 21 years before I found out. It’s a hidden gem !

  • @mitch4527
    @mitch4527 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Seems like a shame - City Hall was designed to be the masterpiece of the original IRT line. A lot of immigrant labor worked very hard to create this beautiful station. Seems a shame to keep it shut like this without putting it to good use, somehow.

  • @MetalPete_the_metalfan
    @MetalPete_the_metalfan Před 7 měsíci

    Anyone remember TMNT 2 The Secret of the Ooze? I remember them finding this place to live in that movie.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Although I have not seen this myself, I believe what you are talking about was also a reference to the Beach Pneumatic Transit which was the first subway in nyc and a topic I have gone into great detail on this channel. TMNT also referenced the Pneumatic Transit in the 2012 series Season 2 Episode 13, where the Subway is apart of Kraangs lair. Always loved TMNT and it may be a reason I am obsessed with the Subway as an adult since there are lots of references.

  • @mikeoxmaul9675
    @mikeoxmaul9675 Před 3 měsíci

    Why is it abandon?

  • @shenchao-shen
    @shenchao-shen Před 2 měsíci

    「拜託不要殘留half spin在裡面….」
    Please do not leave half spin of your particles, I’m not going to integrate it for particular visa transaction.
    It’s really complicated.

  • @randylotito8045
    @randylotito8045 Před 7 měsíci

    RIGHT HERE I LOVE ♥♥♥ THE N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT TD-2 COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 THAT PATROL THE CHAMBERS STREET SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇 STATION ON 4 5 6 & J SUBWAY TRAINS 🚇.

  • @jstoney6471
    @jstoney6471 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did same in 1999...

    • @jstoney6471
      @jstoney6471 Před 7 měsíci

      Plus back in the day, my neighbor was MTA Welder and we took many exploration tours. South 4th St among others.

  • @brucesanchez2409
    @brucesanchez2409 Před 8 měsíci

    It’s on 9/29/23

  • @TJF236
    @TJF236 Před 4 měsíci

    is the tour free?

    • @yankee04
      @yankee04 Před 2 měsíci

      No. You have to be a member of the Transit Museum to even have the opportunity to purchase tour tix.

  • @jeffdsfo
    @jeffdsfo Před 7 měsíci

    I am guessing the plans to turn it into a subway museum have fallen through?

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Never heard of this idea.
      This station lies under city hall / the entrance to this station is located in an area of City Hall Park that is off limits to the public.
      Only authorized individuals are allowed in this area where the entrance to this station is located, hence why we had to enter the station from the 6 train. I doubt they would turn it into a museum with the train going by / the only way as of now they could bring people in and out is through the 6 train.
      This leaves the station in a odd place where it is very beautiful. The station probably would not be here still if it wasn’t still used as a turnaround for the 6 train.

    • @MA-yh2ko
      @MA-yh2ko Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@kbhastheanswer I thought there was a transit museum with an entrance on Court Street ?

  • @DinoCon
    @DinoCon Před měsícem

    There HAS to be a way to reduce the screeching?!?!

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 29 dny

      That would entail remodeling the entire station as it was not built to deal with today’s subway cars. We must appreciate that it is still around. Besides, despite being a bit overbearing at times, the screeching is apart of the modern day City Hall Station. It sounds even better in person! :)

  • @sato.nyc1337
    @sato.nyc1337 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I been here the illegal way

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Must’ve been some trip, I could only imagine being in there knowing my only way out is to venture through the subway tunnels. I’ve rode the 6 train around to loop at Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall many times and know how big it is / far of a walk through the tunnels it may have been for you. Were you able to snag any souvenirs ?

    • @lotto88lot
      @lotto88lot Před 3 měsíci

      Walking into the abandoned tunnel via J train Chamber street station 🚉 😅

  • @johnjon1823
    @johnjon1823 Před 7 měsíci

    Kind of amazing how basically a screwup ends up as an historical site for tourists. Maybe one day they will tour the mayor's brain the same way. The formaldehyde tour; brain in a bottle, don't forget your oxygen mask and microscope. You will need a powerful scope to find anything.

  • @Howrider65
    @Howrider65 Před 7 měsíci

    Many kids have beat you to it.

  • @mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164
    @mtanyctrainatlantamartatra7164 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Dam man please don't play any stupid music, gosh!

  • @badger7554
    @badger7554 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wondering what the point of adding fully 3 minutes of non essential video at the beginning is. Sure was interesting watching people descending stairs and walking through turnstiles.

    • @kbhastheanswer
      @kbhastheanswer  Před 7 měsíci +5

      This is to give you all the experience of going on the tour. Also it is interesting for many who have not been in subways before.

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@kbhastheanswer
      I beg to differ sir.
      I don't know what is the norm for this type of vicarious video of a paid tour over there in the States. Nor indeed, if they would allow you to 'broadcast' any of the guide's talks.
      Here on the tube in London, I have yet to see a video like this. Your first, you say. Well, ahem, it can only get better from here on in.
      Did it not strike you that the visuals, whilst being of great interest and highly noteworthy ~ because of this enchanting palace's sheer beauty ~ would be absolutely and utterly ruined by
      i) all that metal on metal shrieking? There really is no reason to keep it in the edit. Yes, the wheels on the tightly curved rails make a really nasty noise and yes, you all had to go through it so we viewers here share your pain. Just once though.
      Just one episode of it in this video would have been enough.
      ii) a woeful lack of information. Tis usual over here to have the videographer give a running commentary on his experience (which can also jar if of too little importance) and enlighten we viewers with a potted history of the place. If you're not ready to do a voiceover, what people can do instead is to provide textual snippets in the description.
      Forgive me for being a bit harsh but I mean this (long) comment as constructive criticism to help you with your future productions.

  • @ShortCombloc
    @ShortCombloc Před 3 měsíci

    merzota