MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE: Rufus Sewell & Joel de La Fuente on Season 3's Shockers - New York Comic Con
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- MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE actors Rufus Sewell and Joel de La Fuente sit down with ComicsVerse's Jordan Parrish for an interview at New York Comic Con this 2018.
MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE takes place in an alternate world where the Axis Powers of World War II saw victory over the Allied Forces of the United States, United Kingdom, France, and Russia.
Rufus Sewell portrays the role of conflicted Nazi commander John Smith. Joel de La Fuente portrays Chief Inspector Kido. Chief Inspector Kido hails from the original Japanese motherland but resides in Japanese occupied San Francisco for more than a decade and a half before he gradually becomes more American than he wants to admit.
We also have an interview with Alexa Davalos and Chelah Horsdal here: • Alexa Davalos & Chelah...
Season three of this epic television show premieres this week! Not only were we lucky enough to see season three early, but we had the pleasure of speaking with both these actors about their characters and the controversial premise that MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE builds itself on.
In addition, we scored some juicy season three gossip as well as some cool insights!
How do you handle playing a friggin’ Nazi on TV?
Rufus Sewell: I said this before but it’s an object lesson in what happens to humans is our ability to normalize. One of the many versions of that is how an actor gets used to the mise en scene and the props, the costumes. When I first tried on the S.S. outfit it was quite a moment and everyone in the room, there was a pall of silence that came over. I remember going out to the corridor and people going, “Whoa! Okay, okay.” You know?
There was a palpable feeling of we’d entered into a kind of zone. I remember a couple of days later walking past someone and them going, “Cool!” And a couple of days later, “Hey Rufus!” It’s just your clothes after a while and you become swastika-blind. Because my office, in our last kitchen, in the Smiths’ last home, I didn’t even know that the linoleum was in a swastika pattern!
After a while this is what happens. It just becomes, that’s what floors look like. And we have to kind of decompress the end of a season because we’ve become anesthetized to it because that is what happens to your environment. What is today’s horror is tomorrow’s accepted reality and this is what happens to people. This is how Nazism can happen. This is how all sorts of shit happens. That’s my experience.
How does the inner conflict in Chief Inspector Kido manifest differently than in other characters?
Joel de la Fuente: For me, for season three, in particular, I think of Kido as sort of the accidental immigrant in a way. He’s been in America for 17 years. He says all of these things about his opinions about America and about westerners and the superiority of the Empire in Japan, but he’s that person who’s becoming the unexpected immigrant.
Suddenly his wife says you speak Japanese with an accent and all of a sudden he doesn’t like the food at home as much as he likes the food in America. Suddenly we realize the way in which he deals with certain problems are in a very American sort of way. In season one, he goes off and he takes it into his own hands. He shoots the killer, the attempted assassin of the crown prince because he thinks it’s going to cause war. That’s in direct contradiction to the way that you’re supposed to do things. To duty and order and the chain of command. It’s a very maverick American thing to do.
For me that’s the paradox that we’ve been thinking about in season three where he still uses it in service of his idea of the Empire but he’s become this strange hybrid of an American, this person who’s serving the Empire with American enthusiasm.
How do Smith’s feelings about the Reich change in season 3?
Rufus Sewell: I think it confirms fears and struggles that he’s had right from the start. He knows he’s made a devil’s bargain. He has tussled with the Smith that he might have been. That still exists somewhere in him, so even when he appears to be a zealot, he has doubts. He’s just dealt with them in a zealot’s way which is sometimes the doubting zealot’s the dangerous ones. So when things start to come calling for the prize there’s an inevitability, a kind of grim irony to him.
When he becomes aware of the existence, the possibility of a different reality in which he was unburdened by these choices. Where there’s a possibility that some of the things that happened didn’t have to happen has a powerful spell on him but it sends him deeper into secrecy. It separates him further from his wife. Ostensibly to protect her from something she can’t handle. He thinks that’s the reason. But it isolates him further.
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Let’s be real. The resistance and Julianna, while they may be the main storyline, are the most boring part. I watch for John Smith’s story.
Everyone was more interesting than Juliana's character... Smith and lido dominated the screen time in regards to sheer acting quality as well as fleshed out characters. Juliana whilst the protagonist I feel was never fleshed out properly...
Basically the love triangle of season 1 was the hassle we had to endure to see smith, kido and the trading minister...basically plot over drama
Fr Julianne was so useless
Yep! I actually fast forwarded through some of the Julianna stuff just to get to Smith’s story line.
You guys are harsh on Juliana :) i don't totally disagree, but she was a very good character in the 1st two seasons. They lost her way at the same time as everything else when they went too far down the multiverse path. If they had focused less on Nazi's going to the other world and more on their world, but with the mysterious films always manipulating characters, then I think Juliana would have been better used. Ultimately, the 4th season became the 'close Smith & Kido arcs' show. I was sad that the Trade Minister was written out of Season 4 too - this is what happens when a show is pulled and funding cut, but at least they finished it.
John smith convinced me he was American while he is actually British In real life, and Kido convinced me he’s from japan while he is completely American in real life
Filipino*
Same here. They are the two best actors in the show, with the two best characters.
@@EmmaR Filipino American
I thought the same thing haha
@@EmmaR He's from New York lol
A brit playing an American nazi
A filippino american playing a japanese kempeitai chief inspector
It works surprisingly well!
if i didn't hear them during interviews i would've never thought.
though i'm not a native speaker, Joel's Japanese is better than most of the other character's (mainly minor guards etc.) Japanese XD
I love them in the show though, but yes it is kind of strange.
@@sporkeh90 not strange at all, professional actors are supposed to fit in any role, that's what makes some actors stand out, take the actor who plays Himmler in the show, he is actually american but his german is perfect, fun fact he has a PhD in German...
that would make them great actors because everyone is convinced
These two are why the show is worth watching
The show as a whole is so good, but the main villains are the ones who make it amazing.
And Tagomi.
Yep. I was sad when Chief Inspector almost died in season 2 because he is an awesome villain.
Indeed
Yup. Rufus sold out. Alexa Davalos became so timid in her role that she faded away ...into nothing
Characters: terrifying killers
Actors: adorable cinnamon buns
J. Verdikto Rufus Sewell kind of scares me. I can't unsee John Smith. Lol
@@ironbaby12 well you should see him as a cinammon roll Lord Melbourne in The ITV series Victoria. It's a polar opposite
I can’t be the only one that loves when kido says KAKA
Hai kaka
Kakka*
*Hai KAKKA*
Kaka means poop in German
Yapp
We all know we liked the show for John Smith, Inspector Kido and Minister Tagomi.
True, but I love every second Juliana is on screen. ❤️
Play a drinking game where you take a shot every time someone says “Chief Inspector,” “Trade Minister,” “Obergrupenfuhrer,” or “Reichsmarschall.”
You'll probably get alcohol poisoning.
Or Mr Frink ...
😁
I would be hammered by 2nd episode...lol
JustChexin 😂
I want to play! Haha
Ah.. obergruppenfuher smith welcome to our timeline.
He then became reich Marshall and became furher himself
@@nirmal886 No he becomes Oberstgruplenfuhrer before he become a reichsmarshall
universe...
*Reichsführer of North America
His British accent is throwing me off 😂
Kido sounds like THAT omg
TheKN128 Right!!! Tremendous actor.
M Underhill seriously!!
You should watch him in old episodes of SPACE ABOVE AND BEYOND
It's crazy to see how different some actors are from their characters, right? Alexa Davalos and Chelah Horsdal are different too! This interview with them is great, we're big fans of theirs czcams.com/video/9ntMEHXbRkY/video.html
It's insane. Dat boi had the Japanese first language speaking English down. So amazing.
I’m really gonna miss this show specially John Smith’s character
J. BB one of the best character ever created and played
I know... Even though he was a nazi,you could still see that he kinda wanted to rip away from the nazism.
WARNING SPOILERS!!!!
Why couldn't they have Smith change his mind about his standpoint. I mean,he already took care of himmler and killed him. So with the European reich out of the way,why couldn't they make him try to rebuild America instead of him just killing himself?! I think they just botched the ending just so they could get it over with.
@andrew carey well gee,probably because the new season came out and this comment was a week ago.
You're right though,I should've put a warning or something. I feel really bad now...
@andrew carey but then again,the person who made this comment kinda already insinuated that Smith was gone. Just sayin'.
Meet the Outlaw I was upset at first, but I accept things worked out as the producers intended. Even as a born rebel American, John Smith was injured by all the Reich did to him therefore, leading to the murder of Himmler. He cleansed what he saw as the evil, but didn’t realize he lost himself to them long ago. Perhaps, a balance in his mind that they murdered Thomas and also created the means for him to see Thomas again. Ultimately, the very person John Smith became because of his in step marching repulsed Thomas. The true picture of 2 realities. (Of both Thomas and John)
Who else cried when John went to the alt-universe and cried while hugging Thomas? 😢
Didnt cry but that was pretty emotional
I feel Rufus gets super credit for his amazing acting on the show (and rightfully so) but to me Joel is right up there. Smith and Kido are by far the most compelling characters to me on the show.
I'm always worried about Kido.
He's wound so tightly I'm afraid he may fly apart at any moment.
Every day he doesn't disintegrate is a win.
Rufus Sewell really convinced me that he’s American by the way he speaks in the series as John Smith. Awesome acting! Not that I’m taking away anything from Joel’s performance. I know that both are amazing actors. Wow. I hope to see them more on screen.
These two guys carry the weight of the series.
Wow, these guys look like friendly fellows you wouldn’t mind having as your uncles, but they both masterfully portray such fearfully powerful men! Acting can be amazing!
These 2 are soldiers who respect each other. That meeting they had in season 2 (or 1 i cant remember) was epic. And in season 2 when they both watch the film with the hydrogen bomb they both have such an epic face....its perfect.
They WERE amazing and so nice! Alexa Davalos and Chelah Horsdal were also amazing, don't forget to check out their interview too! czcams.com/video/9ntMEHXbRkY/video.html
Carolyn Derricks Uncles? That’s such a weirdly specific thing to say. Haha!
Kido is such a hard ass in the show, it's refreshing to seem him all relaxed and chill 😌
Kido's facial expression the entire show was awesome. love the character.
I'm enchanted by rufus
John Smith, Kido, Tagomi, and Hitler were the best characters in the show. All the Juliana Crane and BCR stuff kind of bored me to death. I would have loved the show to end with John Smith becoming Reichsfuhrer of North America and denouncing the Nazi ideals while Kido finally returns to Japan to be a real father to his family.
Kido was stuck in the Hotel California.
Of the many things that bothered me about the 4/ final season, was the (SORAS) Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome they put Toru KIdo (Kido's first son) through. Unfortunately for the series, the characters had a very interesting backstory in the behind-the-scenes information, but they deleted it and did nothing with it. While one can still find it on the internet, I think incorporating the backstories into a more uniform story line would have made the characters more well rounded. jennacolemans.tumblr.com/post/183342877093/the-man-in-the-high-castle-character-bios
Takeshi Kido was born sometime in 1917 to a poor tenant framer, and was the 4th of 8 children. Given that Kido was the son of a tenant framer he had very limited opportunists, but was extraordinarily bright. The only way Kido could ever obtain social mobility was by running away to join the military at 15. That was how he was eventually recruited into the Kempeitai.
What bothers me about Toru's character is that, in Kido's character Bio, he finally marries Akiko (his wife) in 1950. With the series starting in 1962, Toru and Wataru (his two sons) would have been around 12-10 years old. Therefore, I feel like the actor who plays older Toru should have been a mental projection of Kido when he was at the Rape of Nanking. In public, Kido seems to be a very well-disciplined and frighting man, but he battles personal demons in private. Hence his increased consumption of alcohol as the series progresses. Personally, I'd have the alt-reality travel drop, because I (as the viewer) feel like I'm forced to watch two difference series: alt-reality sifi and an alt-period drama. The alt-reality could've just been a way for characters to explore their grief and reservations.
Even before I found this on Amazon's behind the scenes function, in season two, there was a feeling (to me) that Kido loved his wife and two sons [See S2Ep7 and the information about the boys from Kido's call home: The boys seemed to be like junior high kids and having interests and behaviors linked to that age group]. From his current post, however, he could not say no. Moreover, because of his military service at a young age, he may not know how to relate to his sons. Yet, his wanting to avoid nuclear war could stem from him not wanting his boys not to be forced into the military as young teenagers.Because of the crushing situation from the Great Depression, many men and teenagers joined the service for social mobility. Unfortunately for Kido, there was more than what he had bargained for.
Sorry for the long comment--I very much agree with you--but this is why Bio's in a consistent narrative are important. Heck! Kido could have made a deal with the Yakuza to see that he and his family could safely leave the JPS for something other than having the plot line of retreating from JPS territory.
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This is a really interesting post.
In his performance Joel always gave the impression of a character repressing his own feelings at the cost of great inner conflict and in the last few episodes that a burden had been lifted.
It looks like they rewrote his son to be of military age to make his last - season arc resemble Smith's. I enjoyed it because I'd never got any previous impression of his family life or the age of his children.
@@alanpennie8013 Hm... "An arc to resemblance Smith's..." Well, the writers could have done that by showing the mental projections of '15-year-old Kido,' 'rape of Nanking Kido' and 'Solomon's Kido' (remember Smith's nightmares). Another element the could have used to resemble Smith's arc is have Toru & Wataru as child soldiers. I don't have much information on the subject, but during WWII the Riech (See, Hitler Youth) and the Japanese military did use their own children as soldiers. Now, given that Kido went to war at 15, and that his boys are almost as old as he was--Kido, now a husband and father--could not go through with it. Reinforce his desire to prevent war. What's the role of a shortstop in baseball again? That analogy could be used to show how Kido prevents war--or could be a military code word for something his son is doing for the Army! 🤮
Anyway, why did this upset me: Because season 4 was so rushed? Party that, but let me give another Smith example: somewhere in late season one John is looking at photos of his deseased older brother, to which Helen replies: Do you know how lucky you were to have a sibling? I grew up playing with dolls on my own. Then in season 4, she suddenly has a brother --that offers her and the girls safety in the Nutrality Zone, Montana? Convinient.
The series set a character rule, breaks it, but does not offer a logical explanation to replace it. Here's how you could do it: In her Bio, Helen's parents were academics, and the were shot by the Riech. During the chaos, Helen's brother was a soldier believed to be dead. Upon the murder of their parents, her brother flees to the Nutrality Zone, and Helen stays in the Riech. Could Helen's brother be used as a scapegoat to 'protect the family?'
Does my position make sense? Thank you.
Just pretend the penultimate episode was actually the finale. The real finale was like a ten-year-old trying to wrap up his short story in English class, was full of dei ex machina and generally a disappointment.
Rufus Sewell should be the next Batman / Bruce Wayne......mysterious..different and has that sinister air to him...he is the perfect choice for the role...
MAKE IT HAPPEN DC
He’s too old for that now. That might have worked a decade ago.
I have become a huge fan of his, due to this show.
OMG YES PLEASE
I looked him up and was so confused as to why he has not gotten more big roles. He is an outstanding actor with the looks to boot.
I'd watch him as Batman!
The two most awesome characters on the show. The actors are brilliant in their roles. No one else could have done better.
holy shit kido looks so different. I did not recognize him at first.
I remember him as Callsign: JOKER in SPACE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
He used to be on Law & Order, so it blew my mind to see him as Kido.
He looks so much younger!
Greg yeah the glasses add quite some years. Plus we never see him smiling.
he looks so friendly lol
Their real voices are so different from their characters! These two are phenomenal, and with the guy who played Tagomi, they carried the show.
I just hope it doesn't take another two years for the next season
I think it won't. But dude, why aren't there any Latinos in the show.
well they've almost done filming season 4 before season 3 came out so hopefully next year
@@danielkerr4100 I think it's only appropriate that they release it on Christmas.
Us too! Have you seen our interview with Alexa Davalos and Chelah Horsdal? czcams.com/video/9ntMEHXbRkY/video.html
@@jamesonmyers5447 gassed.. \○
Someone get Sewell and Oscar or something he deserves way more recognition
Love Rufus Sewell! An underrated, unappreciated and casted mainly as a villain in American movies but this guy is really a brilliant, awesome great actor. I became a fan when I watched Man in the High Castle, every scene of his was captivating and really great acting. This actor needs more movies and tv shows!
"What is today's horror, is tomorrow just accepted reality"
This is so true, and we should be always aware of it. Nazis are not some stereotypical monsters. They are people like us, who become monsters, partly as the rest of society does not actually try to stop them. And part of it simply accept this new state.
And that's scary... as it could happen again
Not just Nazis - other things too, like Communists...
@Red X lmao no it's not you're just plain stupid and paranoid
Agreed, this is also amplified by the fact that the Nazis were also a complex and a sophisticated group of people- it’s not as black and white as history makes it out to be. Most of the time people think Nazi they’re actually thinking the SS and the horrors certain groups within the SS carried out or practice. Overall, in addition to being a political org the Nazis were also occult in belief, and extremely studious. This occult belief and their obsession in the search for esoteric and ancient knowledge and civilizations made then extremely advanced not just in technology. It also made being a Nazi more desirable as they were seen as the more enlightened folk at the time.
Rufus Sewell is a god amongst men! Joel is incredible as well, it's really thrown me hearing his own accent.
These two are by far the most interesting part of the show and the reason I watch. Neither of them is German and neither is Japanese...crazy. Joel talking normally sounds nothing like Kido, too.
But John Smith is not german
John smith’s actor is British
Rufus' words scared me:" ....we've become anesthetized to it....what is today horror is tomorrow's accepted reality...this is how all sorts of shit happens". He is so right!!!! :/
All it means, is that values change. The idea of black Americans having the right to vote was a horror for many back in the day, and now it's an accepted reality. Doesn't have to mean bad things.
Just wait when the Antichrist shows up..going to be worse then Hitler
Watching season 3 now wow. Love it. Rufus Sewell should be a bigger star than what he is. He has such a demanding presence when he is on screen
Their voices sound so different
Noah Schuler YES It’s shocking
John Smith's gaze in his eyes seemed very similar to me like Henry Fonda's in Once Upon a time in the West. In fact, like most of us, i watched the series for John Smith, Kido and Tagomi.
Two actors who deserve more recognition, both have incredible acting, they made the show!!
These two actors are absolutely outstanding in their roles! I hope to see them in other projects as well in the future. Absolutely brilliant portrayals.
Rufus is ALWAYS very happy in each interviews I Have watched HAHA
Amazing actors
The most underrated show
Most shocking in Season 3 - Joe Blake!
Greg SPOILERS!!!
Yeah, I totaly didnt see that coming??? Friggn AWESOME!!!!
I also think himmler should rethink his super assassin's program. Jules single handedly killed 3, sister 1 and old man trade minister with a friggn stick 1...lol
Joe Blake we will never forget also Frank frink
(Maybe they'll come back via alternate universe travellers cos k
now there's empty spaces in the universes)
@@tricap1542 the method was so personal, and gross. I think she thought no choice!
Both of these men deserve Emmys for their work, this show is fantastic.
These two were superb in their roles They made the show!
You, two guys, overshadowed the whole cast!!
I have to add my 2 cents to echo everyone else. These two are amazing actors. When the interview with the real people is almost unrecognizable from the awesome characters they play you know this is true.
So weird to hear them both with their real accents instead of the ones we’re used to!
Both of these actors were phenomenal in the series. Far and away THEY made the show.
"You have been weighed, measure and been found wanting "
When you realise the movie villains are just regular non evil people lol
they are not just antagonist, they are deuteragonist
Been a fan of Rufus Sewell since Dark City. I've never heard of Joel de La Fuente but he was excellent on this show.
Honestly, they're the Best characters of the show
I love when rufus talks ...Really love his accent,style ,everything
They were my favourite characters!
Reichmarshall got British accent
In his reality he moved to britain while he was a kid.
3.40 - for a flash of a second I imagined a gun and not a breath freshener...
This great underrated show would be NOTHING without these two great actors!!
Totally, and IMO you should add the trade minister too
@@marcosmanuelvillarreal8823
Sad that Tagomi got written out just after he became an unlikely action hero.
These two dudes. The absolute underrated best.
Behind the scenes these 2 are absolutely someone else
Ok whoaaaaa kido's accent was manifested! Incredible ..
Kido does not look Japanese when he isn't in the show, he looks Filipino.
He is Filipino
The accents of the Japanese characters seem off, even when they're speaking Japanese
This really shows what great actors this pair are.
Best actors in the whole series....
I will never be able to get over how well their voices are
Every time I see a segment with these characters I just want Joel to speak like Kido! lol
I wonder if he gets annoyed from people asking him to do the kido voice lol
my two favorite characters. they played very well
seeing how they are in real life just proves how amazingggg they are at acting! So many people play who they are and aren't really acting. They are brilliant!
Mind blown they sound like this 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
The people who carried the show!!!
2 of the best characters on the show!
These two are the one that pulling the show here. They are just the best villain.
How in the world did they change their accent and ways of talking in the seasons. Thats talent woah
It's nuts listening to Kido talk during this interview.
The last thing I expected is that the actor for John Smith to step in front of the camera and speak with this heavy British accent. After hearing and watching John Smith in the show all this time, I was legit surprised!
Rufus is awesome in MITHC. I'm surprised he didn't at least get nominated for some awards.
He got nominated for the Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series on Critics' Choice TV Awards
Supporting actor? He made the entire show!
@@solhamer3502 Absolutely.. but officially his role is considered supporting
Just finished watching the series, I thought the last season was the best one, both actors did a great job and definitely not how I imagined they would sound in real life
you thought the last season was the best??? Are you joking? the last season was a colossal f up
Finished watching season 3! After what Kido did to Frank, I’m shook.. I honestly thought Kido would apologize to frank for killing his family... instead he says “my only regret is that I didn’t kill you that day too”... like wtf..
why would he say he was sorry??
Alex Bullet dude watch the show... I thought Kido was going to redeem himself... but it turns out he is just a cold blooded killer
Kido-San gave Frank an honorable death by beheading him with the sword out of the public eye as opposed to having an entire squad of soldiers bayonet him one by one like that other dude. There was no way he could just let Frank go free given his code of honor and allegiance to the empire so from Kido's perspective he was really doing Frank a favor by giving him a death befitting a fellow warrior deserving of respect. It's the samurai way ;)
I can almost guarantee that if Kido romantically pursues the woman he freed from the sex slave trade he will likely die.
The heck are you expecting to a Kempeitei agent? Have mercy to it's enemies? Come on!
It's kinda relief to see Kido smiling. John Smith speaking with his British accent sounds harmless.
Rufus Sewell and Joel De La Fuente have for ever become John Smith and Kido to me
Great job guys, thanks for sharing that !
3:32 - Really, Joel? You couldn't wait to grab a mint? lol
he is addicted
As a Filipino; I can confirm many of us are addicted to mint lol
This season was amazing! Just finished it ❤️
Tremendos interpretaciónes hicieron ambos!. DE LUJO!!
Absolutely great questions asked
Both of these actors are really great in their on camera dialectic as they talk completely different off camera..loved the series!!
I didn't come to the show till oct of this year, didn't have cable.SO I watched it night after night and really enjoy it. Sometimes the names, places, issues get a bit mixed up viewing this way, but it works out. I am surprised how I have sympathy or even "root" for some of the villains issues. Smith's marriage, his kids, etc. It def brings home the point that they are regular men who became monsters, perhaps for their own reasons or a new belief system. We'll see more of that. I just hope season 4 gets here fast !!
My T2 favorite characters. These guys have such an air about them in the show
I just loved this work of them!
Wow! An idol to look upon! Feeling so proud for our kababayan in his sterling showbiz career in america!
I love the show so much. It's a real master piece.
They are all incredible actors. When you watch this show, you're getting a whole different taste and vibe. This is the best thing about Amazon Prime, because their shows are incredibly different from TV shows. Thank you for making this and Upload. Wonderful!
Actorazos!!!
Best two actors in the show
I'm sad that this show ended (and season 4 felt like it was rushed together). There was so much more that could have been explored in a Season 5.
my two favourite characters in the entire show! they're absolutely amazing!
Two great actors. Loved S03 :)
Saludos y felisitaciones a estos 2estupendos artistas de la serie de amazon el hombre en el castillo .simplemente grandiosa intesa y mucha accion saludos a los grandes actores rufus y joel y que viva esta serie grandiosa
So Kido has been a Filipino all along, my mind is blown :O
Cultural appropriation!
Only kidding Joel.
You were brilliant.
Great insight from Rufus here about the swastika. Normal changes as we get used to whatever circumstance we are in. Kind of scary.
Kido is a well-written and stunningly-played character.
BRAVO ALL!
Both Rufus and Joel are absolutely incredible in the show.