Coachmen Crosstrail XTREAM Package! Amazing Class B+
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Hey everyone welcome back to another video! Today I am super excited we are taking a look at this awesome class B+ Motorhome! This is the Coachmen Crosstrail with the Xtream Package which gives it an off road look! This is an awesome small class B+ motorhome and I know if your looking for something small then you will love this RV!
Shout Out @strangerpalooza for giving me the idea to call this the Winnebago Ekko Killer.
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Hey Matt & Andrea, Nicely Done 😀👍 Thanks for the Shout Out in the description I think this Class C has a lot of potential...and Man that Texas Heat is no joke...great speaking with you today Matt!
Thanks for letting me call it the Winnebago Elmo Killer!!!! Everyone subscribe to StangerPalooza if you like Class B Vans!!
@@MattsRVReviews Been subscribed for some time now, husband and I love Hank's reviews and honest content. He and his wife are just lovely people!
Could easily full time in it they need washer dryer prep for washer dryer combo. And microwave convection oven.
Finally Matt, you have done something in this video I have waited a very long time for you to do, actually DRIVE a unit you are reviewing! I hope to see you do this more in the future.
I love it. Only changes I'd make are swap the fridge and the cooktop and make the fridge bigger. That would get rid of that weird useless shelf thing above the fridge and make the sink more usable. Right now it looks like you'd bang your elbows every time you did the dishes. You could easily have a flip up to add counter space. I'd also upgrade the microwave to a convection.
.... and a porcelain toilet!
I totally agree with you on everything you just commented
Agree. Otherwise this is a fantastic setup in a compact package. Especially love the garage/bed combo.
Totally agree 😊
Hey Coachmen,
1)-Add larger 3-way+2 door
fridge.
2)-Add convection/hood
vent fan combo unit over
a proper 2 burner LP stove.
3)-Angle toilet properly and
use only porcelain.
3a)-Expand shower to a
30”x30” or 24”x40”.
And no matter what
add top radius rail
for shower curtain and
add soft, anti microbial
type curtain.
4)-Aqua view shower miser
should be standard.
4a)-Add oxygenix shower head with adjustable height
shower bracket.
5)-Use 360°siphon vent stack caps.
6)-Add TPMS monitors as
standard.
7)-Change dinette to a one
adult, tri-fold sleeper sofa,
with a lagoon table. Adding
some storage for the table
behind the sofa-sleeper.
(No free standing tables)
7)-Add two bi-directional
maxx air fans with all weather use features.
One over bed, and one over
in the sofa/sleeper area.
8)-Offer a propane or gas
generator on this unit.
8a)-Or 2nd alternator with
aux quick house battery charge and chassis booster
starter feature.
*The sun does not always
shine, and off-grid means
self-contained and to be
self-sufficient in all weather.
9)-Force heated, plus tank
heating pads, plus insulate
and fully enclose the whole underbelly and tanks.
10)- Nautilus utility and wet bay, with enclosed, heated, protected tank pulls.
11)-Use Dragonfly/Battle Born game changer 2500 batteries, and 2 batteries,
please. *Pullout batt. Tray is
nice, but nobody wants to
monkey around with 4 or more 100ah batts with all
that wiring, fusing, etc.
12)-The 16” tires are good,
but add more clearance.
13)- LADDER!
Use the set-up that Ember
uses on their overland units.
(Lippert products).
14)-Add more usb charge
ports to the interior.
I like the unit very much,
If I were to buy a class b,
This would be the one,
(for the bed/garage config)
it just needs a few tweaks
for it to be turn-key.
Thanks!
Thanks for reviewing this B+. Set on the AWD Transit Chassis. More room than the Coachman Class B. Likes: Lithium batteries plus solar, ability to have a dry bath, white interior and low profile cab. Dislikes: love the garage but if I have my ebike or expensive road bikes in there I don't want those CHEAP little twisty locks! If anyone gets in there they now have access to your ENTIRE rig. Window shade is great but already does not fold down correctly. Does it have an inverter? Does it have a smart TV?
Yeah window shades sucks!!! We don’t use the night time part of them…lol. We had to build a 2x4 bracket on the inside of the door. Keeps are stuff locked in. Yes it has an inverter.
Matt I own one!!!! Three plus things that need fixed on these now!!
Renogy Inverter mounted against wall blocking cooling fan.
Mine hasn’t worked since first trip. Appt scheduled for next week.
Rear storage doors have locks like you would put on your desk drawer. Doors have now been reinforced from the inside.
Fire extinguisher mounted to paneling came off and hit my dog.
Space where generator would be is waisted space. Should have a storage box. As a note it’s all wired up for a generator.
Now the good!!! Handles perfectly!!!
AWD works perfectly and I have tested it all over the PNW.
Can store 4 mountain bikes easily. We use BOLT ON Racks check them out.
Has an oversized propane tank that keeps all my food cold!!! Been using for several trips and still over 3/4 full.
My dogs love it!!!
And the counter top is not an issue. We love having the large fridge.
Hi! I’m giving it a purchase look over. Would you buy it again? I need it to be cool, does the A/C work well on the batteries? Thank you so very much!
How long does the AC operate on battery power?
Overall, this thing's pretty cool. As far as comparing to the Ekko, two big problems. I'm a fan of the idea of the Ekko, not a fan of its price, build quality, or floor plan. The tanks, batteries, etc, on the Ekko are all inside the motorhome. Meaning off road if you hit a rock, you can only hit the suspension and drive train components, you can't smash a hole in your generator (if you optioned that) or water tanks. On the Crosstrail you can. Second, the Ekko has double pane windows. Better in the summer to keep the cool air in, better in the winter to keep the warm air in, and quieter. This does not (every RV over 100k should have them but American manufacturers are super behind on this). Assuming Ekkos are still going for MSRP this Crosstrail is approximately $85,000 or 42% cheaper than an equivalent Ekko.
Three things I like. The curved outside profile, the crazy huge OCCC (the opposite of most B+s), the flex space in the back.
Three things I don't like. No lounge space (get rid of the dinette, add a U shape dinette, couch, whatever), the wonky split level kitchen, absorption frig.
On the note of absorption fridges, modern RVers do not want propane in motorhomes (propane makes sense in towables). And especially anyone buying these off-grid, off road motorhomes don't want propane. Give us gas or diesel heating.
On a side note, I just moved out west and have been taking my AWD Rogue down all sorts of jeep trails it's not supposed to be able to handle, and it's handled them like a champ. It's not a jeep, I've noped out of trails, but I'm eager to see what my AWD transit makes of them.
I've had mine on three wheels traversing ruts on top of Cedro Peak in NM, Mrs just about had a stroke, lol!!!
I love all the storage! I hate dinettes. I would much prefer theater seats. I was impressed with the inside design. It really needs a convection oven though.
Totally off topic...Andrea, that dress is GORGEOUS!! I think it's probably the prettiest thing I've ever seen you in. My husband even chimed in and said, "That dress is really pretty!".
Awe thanks so much 🤗
Love the dress!
@@wallyballou7417 thanks Wally 🤗
I own an Ekko..and this isn’t even close in comparison. The price on this isn’t bad…but it’s not an Ekko.
Its interesting when RV companies make a change, some don’t redesign. The last hatch opening was empty space, this could have been more storage. Its the little things.
I really liked this unit, and it was number one on my list last fall when I was planning on purchasing this fall. Then watching the prices on motor home specialist they simply started skyrocketing. It was amazing to watch. Maybe it was the Ekko effect, but soon the price increases were way beyond inflation. And you know msrps never go down so in order to get an acceptable deal in the future the dealer would need to offer a huge discount.
So I looked at regular class Cs. Ended up I could get a Sunseeker 2350, about the same length, get it converted to 4wd at a Ford authorized conversion facility for under 90k total. That means that using mhsrv's discount price I have 26k to customize and pay for the extra gas on the 2350. The numbers just did not work out for the 20xg. It will be interesting to see what the show prices are at Hershey.
Great review: I own a 2022 version. One of my strongest buy points was that there is a 68 lb propane tank. The empty cargo you showed holds the propane tank on mine, because 1 cargo on each side is used for 2 AGM batteries each. But the Extreme unit has Lithium batteries and are smaller, so they fit in 1 cargo area, hence the vacant cargo area. And the fridge is a 3 way! The whole basis of this unit is you don't need a generator. You can have up to 380 watts of solar! Hope this helps. I love mine, you will too!
I own a 2021, apart from the lift kit and different wheels, I like mine better. Piss-poor build quality from Coachmen, but after a year and a half of repairs, mods, and improvements it is quite a nice little camper. I love how easy it is to drive, very capable to get down forest roads, great for boondocking. Cozy inside, but holds a ton of gear, including 2 mountain bikes. I've looked at many different rigs, bigger class C, small 5th wheels, I'll take my little XG, ticks a lot of boxes on my list of desires. And, cruising around AZ, NM, UT through the mountains and all, at 65 mph, 14 mpg.
Excellent extra info! Thanks 🙏
Hi Jay....In the cold weather does the cold come in through those garage doors while you sleep?....Doesnt seem to have any insulation back in the garage doors and they are on both sides.....
@@edmor127 AA, I'm not Jay, but..... We've used ours down to about 20 deg and in the wind. While the garage doors are not heavily insulated, neither is the rest of the rig, and single pane windows. You don't feel cold "coming in", but underneath the bed gets cool for sure, the sleeping area stays warmer, with body heat and blankets and all. We slept comfortably. The factory installed heating system leaves a lot to be desired, they run a 2" duct into the garage area, a 4" that is only like 6" long into the bathroom, and the last duct dumps out under the pantry and sort of below the thermostat. When the heat is running it gets hotter than heck in the bathroom, everything up by the dinette area is downright chilly, and then the heat coming out by the pantry causes the thermostat to trip off, so the system short cycles. The cold air return is also inadequately sized and chokes the system. I added another 4" duct that runs through and dumps from the end of the dinette bench that is right behind the drivers seat, added a better directional diffuser to the "hall" duct, put a damper on the bathroom duct so I could dial it down, moved the garage 2" to the area right where the hall ends and the garage begins, doubled the size of the cold air return opening. The heating system now works pretty good. Coachmen does a horrible job insulating and sealing the front of the camper area and where it attaches to the van chassis. Wind actually blows through on the floor right behind the van seats, gaping holes in there. I patched on some sheet metal, backed it with spray foam, put some thin insulation in there. I also removed the interior trim in those front camper corners and installed insulation. Much better. I also hung a lightly insulated curtain right behind the van seats, when we are sleeping with the heat or the ac on we close the drape, keeps from having to heat and cool the van cab. All in all, ours is relatively comfy now in cold weather, but it is not intended by any stretch of the imagination to be a seriously cold weather rig. Another weak point is that steel entry step, completely exposed underneath the camper, that step well transmits A LOT of cold to the inside, upcoming project is to get some insulation wrap on the outside and maybe some easily replaced carpet on the inside. I also use some Stellantis van window covers that I bought off Etsy, pretty nice pieces, cheapest prices I could find anywhere.
@@aquamansrdc thanks for the info...this is a definite game changer for me...where I live i would want to use the camper every weekend I could and the temp is cold here more than half the year...Also I am not talented enough to do the mods you described adding alott more to the price of the RV for me by paying someone else to do it......my Dad was right all those years ago warning me that my lack of DIY skills would cost me dearly
I agree with Matt and Andrea for the dislikes. This RV should have an induction stove top, the stove top needs to be moved over a tad bit in order to give more counter space. The RV needs a convection microwave oven, the refrigerator needs to be in another area, and 12 volt. The toilet should be porcelain and not on a pedstal. Instead ,the placement should be directly flat on the floor,. The bedroom area need aleast a small TV mounted on the wall. There should be above storage like two small cabinets or drawers to put personal items in this space. I didn't see no USB outlet or plugs to charge electronics in the bedroom , bathroom, or living area including the kitchen to plug items. There needs to be storage under the dining booth with door handles to accessible . I don't like removing the pillows /seats to gain access to the storage. There needs to be at least one slide-out box on the drivers side to allow a little more walking space . It appears that the customer has to always walk side ways. There's no way two people or a large person can move around comfortably in this RV. I would have liked for this RV to be a 50 amp instead of 30 amp. Also, i would like a screen door in order to leave the main door open. Does, this RV come cable ready? Was there an outdoor shower or LED lights on tge awning?It needs to be a backup camera and a bumper to place the stinky hose. I would like to see a ladder to gain access to the roof. Also, i would like to see a security light over the door entrance. Otherwise, this is a great RV.
I like the floor plan and livability far more than the EKKO, but would like to upgrade to EKKO’s dual pane windows and 4-season capability. Likes: (1) Storage for bikes; (2) prefer a dinette (can get work done) to lounger (this not a unit for couch potatoes); (3) lithium batteries, 3000w inverter, up to 380w solar and thus no need for generator); (4) I like the high countertop above the fridge. Dislikes: (1) lithium batteries exposed meaning can’t charge them in below freezing weather; (2) forced air heat rather than a Truma Combi or similar. To me, this is a unit to weigh against a truck camper rather than against a Class B (too small) or C (too big & too incapable off-road)
Wanted to take the time to let everyone know on here.. Matt is true to his word.. spoke with earlier today… And he answered everything i had to ask.. Guy worked all day and was at the gym and returned my call when he was finished.. Great guy.. Thanks Matt and looking forward to seeing you at Hershey RV show. Need more people out there like u Matt..
Hi Matt and Andrea! My dislikes are no convection micro wave and or no oven and the propane cook top should be induction. My likes are those shades the dinette and the bed with the storage under neath. Thank you Matt and Andrea! It’s for being a small Rv.
I wouldn't call this an Ecko killer at all. The Ecko was built to be a 4 seasons B+, and the fact that the dump station and water connections are completely exposed kinda put it out of that running.
That being said, a very good B+ Euro style RV.
Lol @ 4 seasons. Try one of these in -25 Canada and get back to me, it'll be frozen solid, you'll be dumping winter windshield fluid down the toilet
@@FrankBullitt390 That's what I'm saying. This one literally has no 4 seasons prep at all. The Ecko at least is ready for MOST 4 seasons with it's thicker insulation and sealed dump station and hook ups. Will it be enough for a far north winter, probably not, but it has a chance unlike this one.
Yeah hard pass on me dumping the poop and pee box by hand.. The holding tanks are heated on the Cross Trail as well.
@@scoopu1620 Even when they're heated its just a heating pad on the bottom of the tank, the sides are still exposed and will freeze solid. The tanks need to be fully enclosed and heated in the belly of the rig, best of the water tank is under the bed as well.
small class c with no slides. me likey. only thing is when you lower the bed for sleepytime, you gotta put your ebike or whatever somewhere else.
have you tought of just laying them dow nunder the bed for the night?
I like almost everything about this RV....with the exception being the exposure of the batteries to the cold. From what I understand, lithium-ion batteries will not charge well under 32 degrees. I'm sure my travels will take me to areas where it will colder than that, so if that truly is a limitation of those batteries, that is going to be a real problem.
Andrea, what a,trouper u are !!!Looked and sounded just fine. But that is also the Mom in u.🥰🌷
Ditch the dinette and put in a couch with collapsable trays for eating. I never understand the need for dinettes in these smaller vehicles, they take up too much space
I have one. I took out the dinette and installed a nice futon. Much nicer. I found a futon that fits the space perfectly. Then I added a lagun table.
Matt, it is close to the best pooping position! If it had a porcelain toilet it would be the best! Put your feet up on the riser and you’ll see why I say it’s the best!
Hey Matt, I think Coachmen was listening to you and Andrea again. The 2024 21XGs are out and the galley was redesigned and assume the 20XG will be the same since they shared the same previous design. Basically, the two-level countertop is gone by moving the refrigerator to the other side (per Andrea's dislike) and going with the narrow Norcold compressor AC used in the Ekko. Also, added a convection microwave (also per Andrea's dislike). Also going with a two burner induction cook top instead of the propane stove and Fogati tankless water heater. I am awaiting the 20XG showing up at the dealerships.
😎FromAZ...1)like your video format covering same types of issues each time; which makes it easier to compare.2) I like the top of fridge space because there is someplace to put items removing from fridge or microwave if pulling items out like for example sandwich condiments and cold cuts. The top is not for working on. Also when not moving a convienent storage space. Also love the big garage under the bed. Like that it's got a reliable, Ford chassis we are Ford folks.
Man, every time I see a small unit like this I want one. Then I hear the MSRP and think, nah, I'll get a fifth wheel.
As a solo traveler, the Coachmen 20XG ticks most of my boxes.
Likes:
1. Bed/Garage (roomy) combo
2. Kitchen/Dinette. I like the fridge height. Perfect arm rest height for a petson my height when standing. Also, acts as extra counter space. Like the aesthetics of it.
3 (tie) Lithium and Propane availability. I prefer propane cooking, and don't like the EMFs generated from induction cooktops.
3(tie) Ford transit AWD chassis.
Dislikes:
1. Not so sure about its insulation. What is its R value? Good for all seasons?
2. Outdoor lithium compartment. Are the storage area or batteries compartment heated?
3. Shower area seems like it can be better used for stoage. With the area being well lit, it could be a nice planter space, clothes drying room or place for a pet. Depending on how one chooses to use it. I guess it could be turned into a nice multipurpose space.
Overall, my favorite layout. Seems to be a great value!
Loved the floor plan and that it didn't have a generator! I assume the open bay, behind the driver compartment that was empty, is where the generator went if it had one.
I loved the cargo capacity on this! Compared to other B+ this had about 500lbs more cargo capacity. I assume this was the generator weight being removed?
I would only change 3 things:
1. Porcelain toilet please!
2. Move the fridge from its current spot to be next to the shower. This would open up the entryway some for placing items on the counter when stocking provisions (and possibly a larger fridge and remove the counter on top of the fridge).
3. If no generator, then that storage compartment needs to be storage, or possibly an option to add an extra fuel tank (cargo weight permitting).
Good job to Coachman! That was a beautiful coach and I loved the price range.
Nice Unit.
I think in that empty door space, I would add more batteries.
Especially because there is no generator.
Would for sure have more solar panels added.
That bedroom us cool.
I would for sure put my own double bed on the floor area, keeping the other one raised until I had guests, then partially lower that one.
Kitchen sux... No oven, no convection microwave, and fridge too small. And that stove top could have easily been induction.
However, the MSRP $ 145,490.99 us not too bad for what it has. But, the sale price of $ 116,999.99 makes this one more worth its while.
Great review you two.
I'll see you, next time.
That fridge is a deal breaker. We just walked away from the Coachmen Prism for the dinky fridge and this is even smaller, just lose that weird counter and make the fridge bigger.
Really like this rv!!! That large garage really sold me. However, the only things I didn’t really like were: the tiny sink and no oven. Everything else is definitely doable.
Love thevgarage. Wish the had induction cooktop and convection microwave
Hey so this we’re unsure about this one - we can get a lot of class C for $145k .:. Chassis features 👍🏽 👍🏽AWD, 400 ftlb torque, electrical architecture, a ton of ccc, and almost a ton of towing; cockpit 👍🏽 dash layout, swivel seats; dinette 👍🏽 bigger .:. Borderline for boondock sleeping 👎🏽 👎🏽 need to sleep in the dinette - boondock is key for the B - #vanlife; oven 👎🏽 option convection; overhead bunk 👎🏽 not included .:. double bed is small 👎🏽👍🏽 storage under it is large .:. Thinking about it .:. Thanks for the review M/A
I only wish that Coachman would have made this a four-season coach like the Ekko and this would blow the echo out of the water.....
All lithium would be better. Induction cook top, larger 12 v fridge and larger convection microwave. For that price I would also want upgraded seating.
"This is just Cool and Bad Ass! It's American!" Wise words Matt! Love it! And Andrea, nice dress classy lady! Love watching you both!
Love the under bed garage. Some of us travel with pets not bikes. And this is a great place for crates, their beds, toys, etc. and dare I say, even a litter box!
I get bikes, and all camping gear, and even a big 'ol cat box under there. We sleep up in the "loft" when the bikes are in, lower the bed when they are out.
Well I LIKE the spot above the fridge.. GREAT place for a convection toaster oven. It is only 2 of us in our house and that is usually what we cook with anyway. LOVE the set up for the HAULER area below the bed. Wish Coachmen would have the storage benches in the dining area. LOVE the size of the bathroom and the shower. Would be interested in driving one that is closer to us in Virginia. Interested in the gas mileage that it gets.
This unit is my number one interest right now, and this reveiw is very helpful.
Definitely needs a convection oven.
The gas stove is acceptable, but it needs some kind of covering.
The garage and bed is my main attraction.
Thanks for your reveiw!
No oven. No convection microwave. For that price it should have both!
They should switch the fridge location with the kitchen and put the fridge in the back area next to the shower!
Before I say my loves and dislikes, I've got to say Andrea looks marvelous and that dress is beautiful!
Thanks Kirk.I remember Matt telling me I looked like a clown when I put it on 🤣cause of all the colors
Three Likes: booth seating, separate toilet and shower, garage access without going outside in bad weather. Three Dislikes: No front seat swivels (I saw a handbrake in the way), no security locks on the exterior hookups, especially water fill and propane connect, refrigerator freezer should be separate comparments (freezer on the bottom) and sittling next to the shower so the sink can be by the door. Thank you for asking and great review! Oh yes, they need an option to delete the graphics.
Love this one but agree w Andrea that the fridge placement is weird and no counter space really! Plus the pantry needs pull out shelves!
Love the colors though and the garage area is great ! 👍🏼😊
We did contact you about this Coachman...the sales people at the Texas dealership said they are all sold! Even the 2023s!
We'll keep looking
You can buy from another dealer. Since Coachmen reserves only a number of Cross Trail 20XG for MHSV in Texas. However, the price maybe higher than MHSR of Texas.
@@vinhngo1207 I'm well aware of that; we've been doing research on what RV we would like to purchase as well as from whom for over 6 months now. 🙂
@@vinhngo1207 Good news! We found a Coachman Cross Trail 20XG! Only a tiny bit more in price. I just thought it was funny that Matt made this video with the "contact us about this model" line 2 weeks after they were completely sold out!
Agree swap fridge and stove position
I spent 23 years in hot sticky buggy wet Florida those hot sweaty sticky days are long gone and over with for me I'm so glad to get out of that place it's a swamp LOL
We just looked at a 2023 yesterday and agree/disagree with a few points. One, I’m not sure this was the lithium model that comes with 800 amps of batteries. Stock is supposedly 400 amp of AGM which is ok (200 is usable) if you only need a day and a half or so of power (we currently have 400 amps of lithium and can get about 3.5 days of usage, maybe a little more if in July and lots of sun for solar). The model we looked said it had 400 amp of AGM but when you checked the battery monitor it showed as fully charged and only 300 amps. So look closely. . Our current class b has no generator as not needed, but without you probably need at least 300 amp of lithium if you dry camp for a few days. Mixed view on the storage area, tons of room but actually dislike that it opens into the main coach. A lot of area to try to heat with only those 2 inch (?) panel doors on either side. No generator; a huge plus IF you have enough battery power but leaving the generator bay empty (no way to use at all) is just odd. Overall we thought this was an nice, relatively inexpensive small class c. Improvements needed, yes, but that will cost you…why not a compressor fridge as an example, why not dual pane or thermal pane windows. Answer is likely because it is still designed like most class c’s and not intended as a 4 season coach (which is rare and not usually needed) but will get you through the occasional mild cold snap (has tank heaters but that’s it). Is it an EKKO killer…no, but draws on a few good,points from it at probably 60% of the cost. It is a bit larger as well (about 4 inches wider and 13 inches longer) if want a bit more room, but not enough to make a difference driving. We actually liked the 20 CB a bit better for our needs, but doesn’t appear there is a lithium option. BTW Enjoy your reviews; such energy!
Definitely better than any cramped Class B with a mini-fridge, fold down bed and wet bath with a cassette toilet👍but what’s with that horrible uncomfortable dinette😳On a cold or rainy day I need a comfortable sofa to sit on to watch a movie or a ballgame😩
I would rather have twin beds with storage below and above.. With enclosed storage area for bikes and extra cargo. I've had both knees replaced. Can't kneel on knees. Plus that bed has to be very difficult to make for older folks. Larger refrigerator storage in a different area. Get rid of plastic toilet. Put more batteries and insulated inside for colder weather. Even in the desert it gets down below 32%. More solar panels. I like that it runs off of solar. Needs outside rear ladder. Double pane windows. Get 4-wheel drive for better ground clearance. I like that it is a Ford unit. Easier to perform maintenance. Nice engine. Thank you Andrea and Matt for the video. What motor home do you have? Blessings to you.
I just passed 5min25 sec in your video and see where you mention the old fixed bed. Some of us LOVED the fixed bed. In several forums I read a bunch of us would not get a new one just based on the new bed configuration. I don't want my stinky bike gear, surfboards, BBQ grill, and other "garage" items inside my house. I want them in the garage, where they belong! I've also seen mentioned in several forums that with this configuration, when you open the back, you let every bug within 100 miles in for the night. No thank you! And lastly, you loose the back window in the new models. I like the light it lets in, and also the fact that when I back into lake/river or ocean spots, I have a view out the back from inside.I do love the new window coverings and larger dinette seats!
Guess I’m the odd one because I prefer the garage and the bed storage and windows around the bed on the 2019 . The new model seems to have less storage all around.
Thanks, suggestion, just like you give generator size, give us the battery and solar capacity on lithium equipped units, it will be helpful.
I would like if the refrigerator was DC only instead of a 3 way absorption. Dometic makes very efficient 12v compressor fridges that do a better job than the soggy meat and frozen veggie absorption units. With decent solar panels you will never run out of power for the fridge.
I would really love to know how wide the doors on the storage compartment are? I have a recumbent trike that is 32.5 inches wide and this would be a pretty good choice to drive to all the bike trails around the country since it would be easier to park than my current SUV and trailer.
I would prefer an induction stove and just use the propane for heat and hot water until I could make RV friendly heat pumps and instant hot water and eliminate propane entirely. This is the project my 1985 trailer is undergoing, but this floorplan RV if it has a wide enough cargo door would be tempting and overwhelming if it eventually was an electric Transit with 200 miles of range or more, but that's getting into future dreaming. Just switching the fridge and having a wide enough door would work
I love this layout, I just wish it had a option for the bed above the cab, as I often travel with friends so need 2 separate beds
I agree with you about the cab. BUT, if they aren’t going to give us the cab then they should put some additional storage there. What do you think Karla?
I wondered if a couple of cots would fit under the bed, maybe use a step ladder and not lower it quite so much.
Coachmen does it so cheap. Why a two way fridge with hideous black vents on exterior. And then black plastic for heater and water heater. If truly trying to do an off grid situation than what is battery pack/capacity and where is 12v fridge. And why not put some awesome Volta type battery where the missing generator was (last compartment before skipping around to interior. Maybe ditch the propane entirely. Kinda a miss to me if you really research your RVs (quality, layout, technical advances, etc.). But I guess it’s just a cheap version of the Ekko. 🤷♀️
If you are in off grid . You should turn on LP for the fridge . It is 3 ways DC/AC/LP .
Not competitive with Ekko. Ekko is 4-season and has dual pane windows. Neither is really suitable for any off-road use without a chassis lift.
Thanks for reviewing! Really like this unit.
❤️ Garage ❤️ Great boondocking setup with Xtreme pkg and solar ❤️ shower ☹️ Stove. I’d rather have induction with convection microwave overhead. ☹️ I didn’t see any storage spaces with hanging rack
Great job, Matt, Andrea and Coachmen!!
@Beth Jordan Wasn't that a wardrobe at 10:32?
I love the Coachmen brand and the Crosstrail. While noted that this model was directly competitive with the Echo, I which they had other additional floorplans on the Transit chassis giving Gemini/Compass competition rather than jumping to the E-Series chassis with other floorplans. Build out the 178" wheelbase Transit PLEASE and would have a Mercedes killer! Keep the Leprechan's with the E-Series and the Crosstrails with the Transit! Yes it has propane for the fridge and wanted to point out to you during the debate that you just noted the propane cooktop. Speaking of which, while I love the solar/battery, have to disagree with you about putting induction cooktop in place of propane as that would have automatically eliminated it for me. JUST FYI - both Medtronics and Abbott Labs put induction cooktops with their generated EMF's in an elevated cautionary category for the Pacemaker, recommending a 2 foot clearance which would be difficult to attain in this RV. With the improvement in Pacemaker shielding, microwaves have become a non-issue, but induction heating works by generating an EMF in an unshielded environment. I will stick with propane where is not an issue. With the great OCCC, first upgrade would be swapping out the plastic toilet. The biggest difficulty I have with this (and the Echo) is the bed with three walls and climbing over which is why I would look for a different floorplan.
Nice layout. Would like to see higher quality-e.g., 12v fridge & AC, more solar, higher inverter capacity, porcelain commode, etc.
Thank you for the tour!
thats crazy, i was just rewatching the 2022 video you did on this beast, one of my favorites
I absolutely love this one! Perfect amount of room, for 2 to travel the US comfortably. Great review guys! 😃
Did you mention how much solar? How cold weather protected are those lithiums? But overall.....I want
This is very nice!
DISLIKES:
1. Double bed? Really? Needs to be a queen, King would be great! This will make this unit a perfect 30 feet. Or, 29 feet long!
2. Agree on fridge placement ... It needs to be on the opposite side, next to the bathroom. Then, a flip up countertop extension will be, right there, nice and handy.
3. Needs to be a convection microwave oven.
LIKES:
1. The garage under the lift bed, is awesome! Wheel chair and walker will fit in there!
2. It appears to be good to go off paved roads.
3. Inside colors are very nice.
4. Looks like I will be able to see over the steering wheel in this Ford, unlike the ones I've been checking out lately.
Matt ,love it. and I think for the new season that you should definitely drive more. That is a new missing piece!
As for the rv, really good but I agree it needs a convection microwave and an induction top is modern but a real current burner whereas the gas will work anytime, otherwise the bath room and versatility make it a really good RV esp the 4 whl drive
That Superman jump in the beginning gets me every time bro lol.
I love this class B+ coachman❤ I agree with Andrea's dislike about the ref placement. I like this coachman xtreme❤ I think I'll get one 👍
Hi Matt and Andrea! Hope you guys are enjoying Texas!🕶🧊🥤🥤Great Class B+- love the colors and outside design and color! I agree with the likes and dislikes-especially that high kitchen counter and the plastic toilet!🚽The blinds are definitely very nice! Alright, take care, guys!🎺🎺🎺🎺!
I used to like this a lot. Now nothing looks good after seeing that German made Hymer!
I agree with Andrea about the fridge. While it would likely add to the cost I would love the option of a lower counter top with something like a 5.5 cubic foot isotherm drawer style fridge freezer. It’s less than 36 inches tall about 24 inches wide and 21.5 deep. It is also 12 volt so with battery bank and some solar would work well I think!! Love the videos!
I remember when you had this or the 21xg for sale for 50k two years ago.
Really like/love this unit!
Definitely a great time for
Doing what we like to do!
Really like the all wheel drive! Hate the plastic toilet. I am guessing batteries are not lithium? Replace the toilet, batteries and add solar, and it would be bad ass!
I needed help n reached out several times but cannot get a response! Smh. Was ready to buy 🙄
Well here’s a movie my daughter and I will watch!
Some crazy guy took off and drove the RV around lol great Review guys. 👍
Brain cells. Shaken, not stirred. That heat must be brutal. Cheers.
I normally never say this, but the value you get for the price of this is very impressive
Such strong dedication to film through a fire ant on your ankle... you go girl.
The door compartment with nothing in it. Put in a bottom for storage or more batteries.
Matt and Andrea thank you for the reviews you are so appreciated...Atlas Airstream with Mercedes chassis for me..yep🥂🏵️😎
I still like the Ekko much better. Easier to say what I do like about this rig. Storage and the Transit platform. Main issue , is no generator. Large storage is perfect for a portable generator, that the future owner will definitely purchase. Ask me how I know. If you don't need an AC, you'll be fine. Haven't seen a no generator system yet that will run the AC all night or longer.
Well, it would be a good size for me. I agree with Andrea about the fridge. Very small counterspace. Dont remember if there was a hookup for solar on top. If not, could one be installed? I like the large storage in back. I was thinking of getting a motorcycle (it might be too heavy to put back there). But, you would have to move everything out to get the bed all the way down. Unless you want to climb up into it. 🙄It's great that there is no slideout, you can use the bed when you want. But, again, there is the issue with whatever you put back there in that storage. The bathroom is fine, for me. I think i would rather have a comfortable couch that jackknifes, with a table that can be installed and taken down, instead of the dinette. Those are my thoughts and opinions.🥰
I doubt this will ever be any competition for the Ekko!👍
When it comes to a basic bare bones cooking set up for smaller RVs. My choice would be one induction cook top either built in or detachable, a high output burner for large pots or woks. A convection microwave and a better than average ventilation system
" you don't hear it at all" lmao🤣
Thank your for the full 4K. It is crystal clear on my end - wow. The weed also amplifies it to 8K.
I absolutely love this! The only thing I'd change is, make the sink bigger and put a topper on it for more counter space.
I like the cargo capacity, the rear area storage is great. I like the larger fridge. I like the dinette. Great pantry. Like the AWD system. Good length.
Exterior doors to rear area need to be thicker (better insulated). I would rather have a wet bath/outside shower for more storage than a separate shower. Maybe put the fridge where the shower is and have storage on top. That would leave room for more counter space or other things. Needs convection microwave and induction cooktop. Manufacturers never have enough solar panels/batteries to really be off grid. Maybe offer a aqua-hot system with DC air conditioner??
Love the lift bed toy haul part. Blast it was almost perfect kitchen on the wrong side
Big fan of you guys.
Real reviews and you guys are knowledgeable and so cute together.
On 100 k price Class B plus this is my number one choice if I had that cash availability.
love your videos! in this unit, it would be nice if you could access the kitchen drawers without having to open the bigger door first. just have drawers and no door. how hard is that, right?
Wow ✨️ love my 2016 Roadtrek Zion Class B RV--but I wish I could trade it in for this one... Hopefully, i can pay mine off soon!
Oh look at that CUTE top! My friend Andrea is on FLEEK! 👍🥰🤩
🤣thanks Jackie 🤗
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👍👍Thank you! Thank you!🔶️🔸️🤍🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🤍🔸️🔶️
Oh yeah I hate to say this bcuz I normally don't care much for class B's but I believe I might like that one Matt ....
Yes frig obstruction is almost an environmental deal breaker 😢
I agree with Andrea, that Fridge is a big no for me!
Kind of defeats the idea of a gear garage if you have to take the gear out to use the bed.
I agree, I want a micro/convection oven. I like to make bread. I LOVE the RV overall. We like going into National Parks.
I always want the cab over sleeping added so there are Two dedicated sleeping areas like the qwest
Good to meet you at General RV today in Huntley!