The ancient way of copper smelting, copper making.

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  • čas přidán 3. 09. 2020
  • Tomasz Czyszczoń from Montanus - Historical Jewellery shows how to smelt a copper from malachite ore using historical technology.
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Komentáře • 126

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 Před rokem +23

    Dudes even got the double bellows right. Absolutely brilliant. Well done guys.

    • @kevinstacey2231
      @kevinstacey2231 Před rokem +1

      its the bellows. simple fuel? even wood will do it. oxygen( air volume) i wonder? got me thinkin.

  • @Uranium-238
    @Uranium-238 Před 8 měsíci +25

    This rly makes me realize how long it must have taken for humans to figure this out with no knowledge of it before hand. You’d likely use up your whole day, with extremely hard to find resources given the tools and labor required, then heat the metal up in various different ways, most ending up cracked into shards. Repeat for generations.

    • @Rosskles
      @Rosskles Před 6 měsíci +5

      These questions fill my mind. How did they find you could get metal from rocks? What kinda of natural events would do that to give people the idea? Fascinating.

    • @nebwachamp
      @nebwachamp Před 5 měsíci

      Ppl can be smart.
      From naked in the wilderness to obese living off the government looking at everyone else like they are dicks.
      Joke intended... we really have came a long way.
      It is amazing... although government checks don't help us.

    • @corveramoenglish7275
      @corveramoenglish7275 Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@Rosskles In their daily lives fire was needed for heating, cooking, etc. The simplest configuration is a "bonfire", to prevent the fire from expanding to the nearby area rocks are used, after that if the rock was cinnabar they would see molten metal in the floor, if it was a green rock they would see copper, if it was black and crumbly but shiny and heavy it would be either lead or tin. It was a matter of experimenting

    • @Rosskles
      @Rosskles Před 3 měsíci

      @@corveramoenglish7275 Yeah, when you look at the daily requirements to live and thrive, these discoveries would happen naturally over many generations. Have you read Clan of the Cave Bears? Great fiction set in prehistoric times.

    • @GreenLightMe
      @GreenLightMe Před 3 měsíci +1

      To ancient people copper is just another rock - they were already using rock tools so when they stumbled upon copper ore and tried to break it like they did with flint rocks it did something different - it was malleable - meaning they can bang it into a desired shape so it became an interesting rock to use - once they started bringing these rocks to double as fire walls they saw they would melt into interesting ways that made them even easier to shape - from there it was testing different things to make this new material stronger cause copper is not durable and they quickly found out when hunting using it - probably tried different things to make it more strong so you can kill a deer and use it again to hunt and finally mixed it with Tin rocks - finally you can cast the melted rocks into shape you want and it was strong enough to last for a many hunts - they discovered Bronze now they just needed to invent writing so they could write down the process !

  • @user-qs4rz8xs1i
    @user-qs4rz8xs1i Před 3 měsíci +3

    I learn too much chemistry from this video. Thank you uncle

  • @mdgh367
    @mdgh367 Před 2 měsíci +3

    you did Oetzi proud

  • @inbarmeyerson3995
    @inbarmeyerson3995 Před 3 lety +47

    This is an awesome reconstruction! I really enjoyed the video. I'm an archaeology student and attempted a similar process lately :)

    • @chaptersinminutes5548
      @chaptersinminutes5548 Před rokem

      Hey man can i have your whatsapp number? I need a little help on copper purification

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Před rokem +7

    Through CZcams and experimentation i learned myself to collect and refine clay and how to fire them into earthenware through a woodfired small kiln i build in my backyard. The results are still rough and succes not guaranteed but it's exiting to experience and see the whole process. Always looking out for a next project, very informative video! Love this kind of technology, it is seen as primitive by a lot but it's more complicated and hard work for all the senses than what people expect!

  • @michiganprospectors
    @michiganprospectors Před rokem +6

    This is truly using historic methods. Too many videos make the claim but use modern tech. I will be trying this one day in the near future. I can get copper ore from the mines up North. We also have the advantage of being able to get pure native copper from the mine tailings piles in the Michigan UP.

  • @kevinstacey2231
    @kevinstacey2231 Před rokem +2

    everything is the heat. from a beautiful steel bloom? to a lead sinker. i friggin love this information.

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 Před 2 lety +7

    Really interesting, love the expression on the face of the furnace, it’s, oh no, not again! Thanks mate, great content!

  • @thegbgfamily
    @thegbgfamily Před 2 lety +14

    I have fund such crusts from metal melting in the forests in Sweden (I always thought it was from working with Iron but this looks similar to me, because I don´t know). I can´t say how old but probably not that old, only 150 years old because it was in an area where I believe people cleared the forest very late. I have a lot of metals gathered and I was into clac some 20 years ago. This is intriguing.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před rokem +3

      Stop gathering them and contact your local archaeology expert. Sweden basically invented modern foundries. If you're finding slab in that abundance there's definitely something of archaeological worth in the area.

    • @thegbgfamily
      @thegbgfamily Před rokem +2

      @@joshschneider9766 They are probably not more than 150 years old because the prehistoric guys were not in that region. It's very deep in until 5 years ago untouched land, but next time I will consider.

    • @Jin88866
      @Jin88866 Před rokem +1

      @@joshschneider9766 Archaeologists don't usually study modern peasants using very old technology because they lack new tools/knowledge. Where I live people still made bricks in the same way they did 2000 years ago into the late 1940s because it was economical.

    • @Jan-iq8ep
      @Jan-iq8ep Před 8 měsíci +1

      Cool man

    • @thegbgfamily
      @thegbgfamily Před 8 měsíci

      We put them at the firestove in that house, but unfortunately I did not keep any. I might be able to find that place but the are would make me fedl sad. The forest has been destroyed by a forestal harvesting machine. On the other hand those machines are what makes the crusts re-emerge...

  • @killmimes
    @killmimes Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice 6th century welding gloves

  • @leobose6162
    @leobose6162 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I was studying about this today. Great video

  • @shubbz87
    @shubbz87 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Lovely 😍 copper is a brilliant material

  • @sajjadhussain-op8wt
    @sajjadhussain-op8wt Před rokem +2

    Ancient people are intelligent and outstanding

  • @ak47bobbarke
    @ak47bobbarke Před 2 lety +3

    That is really cool!

  • @DeepThinkingGPU
    @DeepThinkingGPU Před 14 hodinami

    For a blue-collar worker or a common person during the Copper Age, a prized possession made of copper would likely have been a functional tool or weapon that could make their daily life easier or provide a means of protection. Some examples of valuable copper items for a common person might have included:
    Copper axe: A copper axe would have been more durable and efficient than a stone axe, making tasks like cutting wood or clearing land easier.
    Copper dagger or spearhead: A copper weapon would have provided better protection against enemies or wild animals.
    Copper jewelry: Copper was also used for decorative purposes, and a simple piece of copper jewelry, such as a bracelet or necklace, might have held symbolic or sentimental value.
    Copper pot or vessel: Copper was sometimes used to make cooking or storage vessels, which could have been considered valuable items for a common person.
    It's important to note that copper was still a relatively rare and valuable resource during the Copper Age, so even these basic tools and weapons would have been considered prized possessions for a blue-collar worker.

  • @Rosskles
    @Rosskles Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video!

  • @Solmyrorg
    @Solmyrorg Před 3 lety +9

    Muszę ten materiał polecić wyznawcom Franca Zalewskiego, bo ten Pan "geolog" twierdzi, że miedź można pozyskać tylko przy udziale skomplikowanych procesów, np: elektroliza itp. współczesne technologie. Świetny materiał dzięki!

  • @violettracey
    @violettracey Před rokem +1

    Very cool!

  • @peasant8246
    @peasant8246 Před 2 měsíci +1

    >YFW you will never be as cool as this guy.

  • @josephujiadughele6035
    @josephujiadughele6035 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Amazing

  • @CharlieMacklin1
    @CharlieMacklin1 Před rokem +1

    Excellent

  • @stevesyncox9893
    @stevesyncox9893 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool man! 🤩🇨🇦🙋🏼‍♂️

  • @ihtsarl9115
    @ihtsarl9115 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for this video . The copper ore placed under the charcoal will get reduced by the CO (carbon monoxide) released by the charcoal to pure metal.?

  • @borntoclimb7116
    @borntoclimb7116 Před rokem +1

    Very interesting

  • @troyspartan95
    @troyspartan95 Před rokem +2

    But I'm sure they did not have welding gloves back then so how did they pick those modes up like that?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před rokem +1

      maybe they didn't, picking up of the furnace is not necessary to take copper out.

    • @jrizzo8945
      @jrizzo8945 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Animal hide? Hooked pots, are you so simple you can't imagine Anything?

  • @KrainaYarpenna
    @KrainaYarpenna Před 3 lety +6

    Film wciąga niesamowicie :)

  • @lancepenner2551
    @lancepenner2551 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What kind of cup is he putting into the furnace?

  • @OneStarRating
    @OneStarRating Před 24 dny

    0:03 - 0:23 What are the tools being used to crush malachite standing up? Love the video, so interesting to get a glimpse into different times and perspectives.

  • @Hillbillysniper
    @Hillbillysniper Před 8 měsíci +1

    what is the cup that holds the copper made of?

  • @NullCyan
    @NullCyan Před 3 měsíci +1

    how did ancient people make crucibles? was clay pottery enough?

    • @NullCyan
      @NullCyan Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think they just discovered metal smelting by accidentally leaving rocks with tin or copper ore nearby campfires

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 měsíci +1

      clay mixed with charcoal or just fire clay

  • @diobrando2160
    @diobrando2160 Před rokem +1

    gem

  • @jens-eriklangstrand1689
    @jens-eriklangstrand1689 Před rokem +1

    Have seen you!

  • @joelat4674
    @joelat4674 Před 2 lety +2

    Does the bottom of the crucible normally break like that? @2:32

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 2 lety +1

      Usually, the furnace can be used several times. This time copper bloom stuck to the furnace bottom and was no way to extract it.

  • @dwaynepabillar3943
    @dwaynepabillar3943 Před 2 lety +3

    Realistic 👍👍👍👍

  • @geoffgeoff143
    @geoffgeoff143 Před 29 dny +1

    What mineral was the original ore?

  • @branni6538
    @branni6538 Před 2 lety +3

    how long does it take for the copper to become liquid copper in the crucible?

  • @gibbyrockerhunter
    @gibbyrockerhunter Před rokem +1

    Like a boss

  • @fusion9619
    @fusion9619 Před rokem +1

    What happens to the rest of the rock after the ore is melted? Is there slag? Do some ores produce more slag than others?

  • @joostvanwijk3842
    @joostvanwijk3842 Před 3 lety +6

    Beautiful, is that malachite as the ore?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 lety +4

      Yes, it is malachite.

    • @Alvgaar
      @Alvgaar Před 3 lety +4

      So much going to waste when it melts into the coal. but this is how it was before they got iron bowls to melt it inside i guess. Or they could somehow make a crucible bowl so the powder does not infuse with the coal but rather stays secluded in its own bowl.

    • @stratiosastero6880
      @stratiosastero6880 Před 3 lety +1

      malachite can have up to 70% copper

    • @stratiosastero6880
      @stratiosastero6880 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Alvgaar there was other way by putting malachite powder in small cruicible,put it on charcoal. this way produced copper wont have direct contact with charcoal and wont melt together..

  • @izharulhaqshah7337
    @izharulhaqshah7337 Před 3 lety +2

    Great work

  • @afriandi3286
    @afriandi3286 Před 2 lety +1

    Amaxing

  • @jesus2621
    @jesus2621 Před rokem +1

    what are those magial green stones? dos it have a name ?

  • @annalosiak2625
    @annalosiak2625 Před 3 lety +4

    Super! :) Ile czasu wymaga redukcja malachitu w tej technice?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 lety +5

      to zależy od ilości wsadu. Pokazany wytop zajął około 1 godziny.

    • @stratiosastero6880
      @stratiosastero6880 Před 3 lety +2

      @@officinaferraria a gdzie w polsce znajdę malachit?? jeśli nie ma to gdzie kupić?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 2 lety +2

      @@stratiosastero6880 malachit wydobywano w Sudetach i Górach Świętokrzyskich, obecnie eksploatacji nie prowadzi się. Malachit można kupić na giełdach minerałów,

    • @stratiosastero6880
      @stratiosastero6880 Před 2 lety +2

      @@officinaferraria bo właśnie szukam sproszkowanego malachitu w celu przetopieniu na miedź (chcę zrobić miedziane śruby napędowe do modelu motorówki) niestety wszędzie sprzedają w kawałkach a młyna kulowego nie mam żeby go zetrzeć na drobny proszek) a topienie miedzi z całych kawałków malachitu to droga przez mękę.

  • @gulalyshah1932
    @gulalyshah1932 Před 2 lety +1

    What was the weight of the rock and how many grams produced

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 2 lety +1

      about 2 kg of ore has been used, i do not remember the weight of the copper.

  • @RestorationAustralia
    @RestorationAustralia Před 2 lety +2

    Very cool process, I mean very hot but cool.

  • @christianpittman5716
    @christianpittman5716 Před 5 dny

    Where do you get the malachite?

  • @Bloomcycle
    @Bloomcycle Před rokem +2

    How did the ancients know how to make copper?

    • @Geo64x
      @Geo64x Před rokem +2

      I imagine the ore was probably used as a pigment but when some cloth burned they found out it turned red fire into green fire, and maybe put a bunch into a fire and found small copper prills that way maybe...

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles Před rokem +2

      They found native copper with ore and worked out you can melt ore and get copper. Actually I have no idea. Lol

  • @matitossavainen2031
    @matitossavainen2031 Před 2 lety +1

    How long did you heat The furnace and how much chargoal Sid you use?

  • @afriandi3286
    @afriandi3286 Před 2 lety +1

    Mantap bossssss

  • @andrewlast1535
    @andrewlast1535 Před rokem +1

    Did that guy grab a hot forge without a shirt? Lol Techno Viking has met his match for the most impressive, shirtless, Northern European dude. Lol

  • @valkobranislav
    @valkobranislav Před 2 lety +1

    👍👍👍

  • @muhammadridwanasshiddiqiea6647

    Mantap 👍

  • @arindamghosh142
    @arindamghosh142 Před 2 lety +1

    How to make copper from Chalcopyrite Ore only???

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 2 lety +2

      sorry, i do not know. You can try to find this information in Pirotechnia (Biringuccio) or de re maetallica (G. Agricola).

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 Před 2 lety +1

      Copper metal can be extracted from the open air roasting of a mixture of chalcopyrite and silica sand, as shown in the following reaction:
      chalcopyrite + oxygen + silica
      2CuFeS₂ (s) + 5O₂ (g) + 2SiO₂ (s)

      2Cu (l) + 4SO₂ (g) + 2FeSiO₃ (l)
      Although if roasted partially it produces Cu₂S and FeO.

  • @writing_experts0
    @writing_experts0 Před rokem +1

    Who is here after arnab sir class

  • @Valtsuuu
    @Valtsuuu Před 3 lety +4

    Is this difficult process and is it difficult to find malachite?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 lety +4

      This process is very easy, nothing complex. There are places on the earth where malachite is very easy to find. We used malachite from Africa, we bought it.

  • @KaineFamily
    @KaineFamily Před 4 měsíci +1

    Smelting really 😂 funny

  • @lArtisanBrasseur
    @lArtisanBrasseur Před 3 lety +2

    Wow! Malachite?

  • @user-tw3tv4bf4l
    @user-tw3tv4bf4l Před 3 lety +4

    Молодец , не могли бы вы объяснить весь процесс на русском языке был бы признателен

  • @dan_the_dj
    @dan_the_dj Před 3 lety +1

    What's that little crucible made of?

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 lety +3

      It is fire clay

    • @dan_the_dj
      @dan_the_dj Před 3 lety +1

      @@officinaferraria Handmade? nice :D

    • @dan_the_dj
      @dan_the_dj Před 3 lety +4

      @@officinaferraria By the way, great channel, Im impressed!
      Not everybody makes their own iron and steel nowadays. Its such a privilege to be able to watch you do it.

    • @officinaferraria
      @officinaferraria  Před 3 lety +4

      Yes, IT is handmade

  • @DruidsForge
    @DruidsForge Před 3 lety +2

    Świetna sprawa :)

  • @josephujiadughele6035
    @josephujiadughele6035 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Arid

  • @jabohabo3821
    @jabohabo3821 Před 3 lety +1

    Copper has a low melting point. Easier to do a mould.

  • @Jingles_Morgan
    @Jingles_Morgan Před 3 lety +1

    Dothraki?

  • @binyamhiruy3279
    @binyamhiruy3279 Před rokem

    😅😅😅

  • @abhishekagrahari7446
    @abhishekagrahari7446 Před 3 lety +1

    Poor

  • @rustler160
    @rustler160 Před rokem

    That's barbaric!

  • @mainemade300
    @mainemade300 Před 3 lety

    Those gloves don't look mid evil,job lots $4:99

  • @presiidentcarterii2722

    Viking