Tig Welding Stainless Steel - Weird Tip to Help Distortion
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Tig welding stainless steel ...one thing that is always a challenge is distortion. Here is one tip for when you are welding plates or flanges like this ...when you have 2 or more parts to weld: Clamping the parts opposite to one another while welding and leaving them clamped until they cool can really help to eliminate distortion.
I have to remind myself to watch more of these videos. Your work is excellent, and your narration is tops. Thank you for taking the time to post this great stuff!
It's been a real pleasure hanging out in the shop for 2013. I'm looking forward to your excellent videos for 2014. Have a wonderful year.
Jody@ Welding Tips & Tricks, When I was an instructor in a major training center I taught (among other classes and subjects) two high school Construction Management day classes. The format was VERY open as it was something new and the administration had great trust in my ability to mix it up and get these kids a balance of all facets of entry level safety through fabrication and minor supervision. Your videos and those of Southwest Rod and Custom became an irreplaceable source and jumping off point in our search for knowledge. I was very blessed to have been in that position and never took it for granted. Your uploads are EXCELLENT, I still use them in my new career as a master fabricator/ multicraft associate. It is my belief that no one knows everything and your videos have shown me how much there still is to learn. You never fail to deliver eye (and mind) opening subject matter. Keep up the great work, sir! ...and Happy New Year.
I'm a beginner, self taught welder, but watch all your videos and appreciate the knowledge that you are sharing. Would love to see how the tumbling process looks like. Thanks.
Saw this once at a job I had at a machine shop, they put the parts in this vibrating, rotating, machine with little ceramic balls. Parts go in one end rough and come out the other all smooth and polished!
Thanks for your instructional videos Jody, you are really helping a lot of people to learn these challenging skills.
Greetings Jody. I've heard this concept called "strongbacking". Just found your channel and glad I did, I'm a 20 year welder and the last 7 as an Alberta B pressure. Sure wish we had the internet back when I was starting out for easy acces to great information on welding, although it sure helps now when I need info on a new alloy or fit up.
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Robert Watson it's our definition of welding levels within our apprenticeships in British Columbia and Alberta. "C" ticket is first year, "B" is second year/pressure certifications. "A" ticket is final year(or used to be). Now "A" ticket is considered "Specialty Metals" certification.
Ken Durham hello
I know this video has been out for awhile but a very good fact that most people dont know is stainless is capable of being immediately quenched after welding w no issues to worry about. Its the only steel that i know of that you can do it to and when i weld on big vessels and tanks thats what we do to help eliminate the heat sitting in the steel and leading to other issues, just an fyi for people.
don't know man...i've quenched the bottom of a really f'in hot beer boiling kettle (300 G). warped it good! i'd wait a while and not touch burning hot stainless to water till its cooled a little bit at least. if it screams when it hits water i think thats too hot.
loved that instruction . The part where you bolted 2 pedestal together and flamed one side to correct the distortion .
Wow, I know a fellow that would really appreciate your welding skills. He's now retired from the trade but has a little shop in his garage. He too is an excellent welder.. You certainly are quite skilled! Great work.
The old 411P,all I've used for the last forty some odd years...Great piece of equipment!
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Another great video, I am going to make one of those 3rd hands. Every time I weld something small, it would save me some real hassle. But I never think of it until I am welding. Thanks for all that you do.
I'm taking a tig test tomorrow for a new job. Hopefully It works out! I hope to be this badass one day! good video man!
Have a Happy and Prosperous 2014! Thanks for all your efforts to help the welding community. You're my go to guy for sure.
Nice work...great tips.
Thank you for sharing your talent...
Oh , almost forgot, I love the TIG Finger! ....but you must make it for big fingers as it keeps falling off! I've even tried stretching it over my pinky and next finger (w/ Tillman TIG gloves on of course.) When it stays on it works phenomenally well. I used to have burn callouses from finger dragging my little #17 torch around s.s.tubing fusion welds! And I didn't learn until last year that thoria was radioactive! I used to clamp one in my teeth while sharpening a second one. OOPS! Gonna get some lanthanated tungstens. Thanks.
Genius. Absolutely genius. Wish I had all this equipment and metals to play with.
as a machinist I can't tell you how many times I've fought stainless and how it loves to warp on you! that said I like the idea of bolting it down to another plate as a heatsink.
keep up the good work giving helpful tricks and tips when welding!
Best wishes for the new year to the best welding bro on CZcams!!! Thanks Jody, Cheers!!!
I've watched all of your videos and even bought a couple Tig Fingers just to show some support in lieu of you making all these videos. I've been welding for nearly 10 years and have been doing sanitary stainless, and non-sanitary stainless for the last 2 years. I'm completely self taught, even on titanium, and I don't know if you have already, but maybe make a video of reading the puddle. The thing i've noticed the most about beginners and guys i've trained is that they try to "rhythm weld" as I call it, instead of actually watching what's going on with the puddle. Just a suggestion, and great job on the videos, I know I really appreciate them!
Nice work and great videos.
great video thanks so much this will help with my school started out stick when I was 11 working on gotkart going to penta county in ohio great school but tig is the art of welding trying to learn all the symbols is tuff but make some videos on scarf grooves and u groves would like to see it done thanks
Liked third hand...might be more of a third foot by the size....Thanks for your time you share with us in flash and fume land...
You must have got a new camera for Christmas? This video looks great! Happy New Year!
Happy New Year Jody. Many thanks for all the videos and the time you take to make each one.
Hi I've been tig welding for the last 14 years self tough I would love to know what type of torch you were using on this video. love your videos I've actually learned alot of stuff I didn't know
love the tig videos.
Another very cool tutorial video my friend! Keep up with great videos! Thanks!
Distortion is a tool if used properly. Jody even showed this welding a frame in another video. Compressed air (and water) is a HUGE benefit in helping if you understand shrinkage and it's effects. I've cambered many an Ibeam for roofs to spec using it.
Heat and water spray....big shops still use that to camber beams and bend 6-8 foot diameter pipe....
Great work! What a wealth of knowledge!
Happy new year Jodi. Wish you all the best.
Watching a very good welder doing this makes it seem so easy just like watching a good mason. Only, when I try to do the same thing, it turns out to be a really difficult one.
..Once upon a time....some welder says to me...."all welding causes distortion, you just have to control it..." gravy job on those plates/nuts, looks excellent !
Cool tip, and happy New Year!
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I have learned a lot from your channel.
I have a question regarding tig welding stainless steel tubes.
which the ideal gap to welding a stainless steel tube with 9mm of thickness?
best regards
hello how are you sir I need question my welding machine DC inverter but I I think ok aluminium welding what this colour tungsten rod please tell me
Good video.
Happy New year Jody! Can't wait to see more videos.
nice work. question about welding stainless with wire feed. 15 or 20 yrs ago I picked up a MillerMatic Cricket 110v, 3/16" max single pass something like that, with no gas shielding. It's difficult welder to weld what it's intended for me anyways. Playing around with it,I was using cored wire, on high grade 3/4" stainless steel bolts and nuts. Running beads on the bolts and filling nut overhang to bolt. No spatter, getting penetration with clean beads the best it's ever done. It wasn't stainless wire. With the results looking good, will the dissimilar metals attack each other? thank you.
Like your videos, very professional.
Great job as always Jody! Happy New Year!
Jody, have you tried any of the heated wire, oscillated feed, high weld rate TIG machines like TIP TIG and others yet? I've watched many of the CZcams videos on this and even setup a demo and got to try one (with some eye-opening results as my TIG skills are old school) , it REALLY is fast weld rate to say the least!! I would really like to get your take on this 'new' process and equipment. Caution: it's quite pricey! Thanks.
Happy new year from England Jody!
Looks great...typical!
Happy New Year!
Hey Jody I'm new to your videos and am really enjoying them a lot. Lots of good things said about your site and videos by the machinists I follow here and elsewhere.
I noticed you were using regular grade 5 zinc plated steel bolts for fixturing, was this an intentional decision over stainless bolts? I've learned the hard way what clean stainless on clean stainless threads like to do in the presence of heat!
Thanks for your videos. My tungsten tips have already burnt out. Is it related to the argon gas?
Hey Jody James here I've been watching your videos threw out my time in school. they have really helped me out thanks alot! But my instructor has me doing a open butt 1/8 th gap veeticle up tig stainless test and it's giving me hell. So I was wondering if you could post an open butt verticle up stainless video thanks man.
Jody, did you make your wedding band? This is the first video I've noticed it, looks really cool either way.
Do you have any tips on helping prevent sheet metal distortion on pieces that may be harder to clamp?. any feedback helps. thank you for your time and all your hard work.
I clamp the sheet with 1x1 steel "L" beams on a thick 2in steel work table.The 2in work table is the heat sink and along with the "L" beams prevent warping.Clamp your beams about 1/4 inch away on either side of the seem you're welding.
Good tip!
Thanks for doin this.
Happy New Year!
your better than all my old instructors at the school. most get their degree ...only because the instructor get tired of them not "getting it" and says "ok you get a B"...
Wait wait wait are u using a auto lense? I see your using just a two by four you sir are leagues above me im a journey men boilermaker but I have to have a big huge eight inch auto lense when I'm doing tig part work like what u were just doing I like to see in enormous detail makes me wonder if my eyes are going bad
How thick should your aluminum chill bar be for 16 gauge stainless sheet metal.
where did you get the plates for your welding bench and what are those particular plates called? they look awesome
VERY helpful thank!
Thanks. I always like your clips. With a stick-out like that I would think it would be a good I idea to use a second or more of preflow. My Syncrowave doesn't even offer that setting. You didn't say anything about it. Just wondering.
+thzzzt just tap your pedal right before you get close enough to arc, and you'll start post-flow...
Thanks for the video Jody. Happy New Year!
5:27 thats the best idea ever! Thank you!
Hello friend where I can buy the mouthpiece with which welds the hinge and that uses machines to make this work of atemano I thank your attention thanks are from mexico city
Whenever I did this type of thing with nuts, the ID of the nut ended up significantly larger than they started because the welds are pulling outward at each facet of the nut.
I'm tig welding a 30 inch stainless steel piano hinge to a 1/8 by 3inch by 30 inch piece of flat bar to make a break away lock bar on a tool box for a medical office.Any suggestions on welding it without warping the piano hinge
I know this is a crazy/silly question but i was wondering if you might be able to answer a question for me? Or some of the comment readers? Could a stainless steel blade be tig welded to the aluminum handle on a Survival Knife? The reason i ask is because almost all hollow handle survival knifes have the blade screwed to the handle and causes the blade to get loose when heavily used.... So i was wondering if those two metals could be tig welded together and correct the weak design on the knife, Or would it cause the blade to warp, etc? Sorry for such an odd silly question but i'm really curious and don't really know who to ask. I'm not familar with tig welding.. Thanks
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I always put an copper bolt in the nut not to damage the threaths due to heath especialy with small nuts
To get on idea, how much amps is used on a this job?
Jody, on a unrelated topic... I'm looking at either an Everlast 200DX or a Lincoln Precision Tig 225.
Any comments, suggestions? I have several machines, one being an Everlast Power Pro 205. The others are work specific(Plysoude Auto-TIG lathe, etc...)
Thanks!
Jody, what would be a good application for tri-gas? What type stainless was the part and what kind of filler metal? Sorry for so many questions. By the way the tig fingers rock I love them. My whole crew uses them!
tri gas also called tri-mix is used for mig welding stainless, these parts were 321 ss using 347 filler rod
Thanks. happy new year!
I like his work bench/ table. Anyone know where I can browse one for a possible purchase?
I'd like to see your shop.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Thanks for all your work on these videos,
Tig Fingers and DVD video package with Tee shirt is great .....
Richard
Inman, S.C.
What is the best Tungsten we try red gold. Blue I liked the blue but I only get what they give me at work I Tig weld stainless steel n make car wash vacuums
Happy new year Jodi
Great vid on control heat and distorsion. You should offer for sale your thrid and tool just like your tig fingers I'd buy one maybe two :-)
If you had welded on a piece and warped it what would you use to repair it.
bro tip use a smoke evacuation if you welding inox or alu(if you wont a long live),
and the weld is a little bit to big for the screw 0.5mm default on iso. use a frequenzy up to 600hz fillet weld i use normal 1.5-2 khz(see the alu parts) but good video for beginners , keep it up ;D
+Der RoteKoyote frequency? I can see no pulsing or ac welding to justify the presence of a frequency. Could you be more clear? As you can tell, I'm a beginner myself. What am I missing?
+makirompe the higher frequency makes the arc smaller so its easier to get a smaller puddle.
+EvilBunny Thank for the reply. But I can't help myself wrapping my head around the concept of frequency in dc current welding. I can't understand what the .6khz or more apply to dc welding. I hope you or +Der RoteKoyote could clear this up for me. Thanks a lot. Cheers
+makirompe wish I could help but going deeper is a bit above what I've learned
i think only fronius have this preset it cost 3500euro(transpocket) and up in my company we use fronius(magicwave) it cost 15000 euro
what brand and type of combination square is to be seen at the end of the video? it looks like a solid model. I'm about to buy one and find myself looking a bit extra at the moore and wright, starrett and some other cheaper copies. But that one you have looks a bit wider and more rigid.
I love your videos and they have helped me out a lot in my TIG configuration/setup and basics.
the square is called a lasquare from lagesseproducts dot com
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thanks a ton!
Thanks man :-)
Your videos are always goods. Have an happy 2014.
A #6 gas lense cup is sufficient...gas on about 40 CFM will give you plenty of argon coverage.
Jody... I'm planning on opening a shop and I'm curious, what size is your shop 20'X20' or bigger?
Sick talent
I was wondering if you are able to tell me what brand of adjustable square you are using?
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what is a lens that uses your camera to film the puddle?
Can you also weld stainless steel with a MIG welder (and be durable)? How?
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Dear Jody, An old timer told me that if I weld Stainless Steel that I should lots of Milk. Does the fumes from SS leach calcium from your system ? Is it more toxic than regular magnetic steel ? Any help appreciated.
Shark Dezil some bullshit old timers would say drink milk so you wont get sick welding on zinc , better is keep head out of column and use fans if necessary but a glass of milk wont hurt most people . Heavy metals get in you and a couple of them will kill you at very low levels after your sick for a miserable time/ know what your welding on and what inherent health issues
The chromium produces toxic fumes
Must be nice to work in a workshop where you have so much equipment that you can wear nice shirts at work :P
how did u make your stainless ring
This question is for three types of metal - Stainless Steel; Reg Steel; and Aluminum. I see the way that you did this weld, but what if you had used a simple propane torch to heat up all these types of metals before hand to some degrees so that the weld would not be a shock to the cold metals to start with Would the pre-heat cause there to be a SIGNIFICANT lessening (or eliminating) of the warping to the metal being welded? And this would have gone along with a slow cooling too.
This is a curiosity - not to suggest that I'm going to pre-heat all the material or parts that I'm going to weld. Maybe only the very precise brackets like this one of yours suggests.
Generally stainless is not preheated, it will have an interpass temp between 200-400F depending on the series, part, use, ect. If you preheated you would easily overheat the part and could alter the chemical and physical properties of the stainless. Any heat tint would have to be removed to maintain original spec of material, so in most cases its better to leave as little heat tint as possible. As to why its different than steel, stainless has less than half the conductivity of mild steel so a small area will heat up and its very slow to dissipate heat to the entire piece.
Sorry, I will have to add a few words to make a difference in my question. I had intended that the question to imply that I was going to pre-heat just enough to cause a difference, not to break down the metallurgical properties. The heat that I was going to suggest would be enough to give me discomfort - like about 150 degrees, lol. So now please take the question to read: "is there ANY low temp that would cause a SIGNIFICANT difference in a weld so as to NOT cause warping to occur in the parts"? Can it be done at all?
Background: once I was having trouble welding some cold aluminum angle iron on new joints until I noticed a specific new joint having been pre-heated by an adjacent joint that I was previously having trouble with. When I welded the pre-heated joint it welded nicely. That is an example of welding an aluminum joint that has been pre-heated to some degree. Note that THIS example has nothing to do with warping, but with EASE of welding. Please consider these changes to the original question.
Roger O Here is your answer Roger. Metallurgical properties of stainless steel and aluminum are at extreme opposite ends of the heat sink spectrum. Aluminum heats up over an enormous area and will cool very quickly, hence the use of aluminum in cylinder heads and radiators. Stainless steel heats up over a tiny area and cools off very slowly. In my old days in s.s. welding, we would tack one piece then another, and so on... keep parts in order, then go back to the first part and weld one pass, then next piece, letting each cool back to room temp. between each weld. If you induce too much heat, stainless will discolor, crystallize (sugaring), and even on noble grades like 316 and 347 a magnet will stick to it. At this point it is scrap metal!
timm white Stainless steel alloys are not noble. The only true noble metals are ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, silver, osmium, iridium, platinum, and gold. I think your confusing stabilized alloys 316Ti, and 347Nb as being noble. They are far from noble. Titanium, niobium, and tantalum are not included as noble metals, although they very resistant to corrosion.
Pipe Weldor I stand corrected sir! What I meant to say was a term I'd heard in welding school when they called increments of increase 'nobler' grades. The instructors explained this as 308 is nobler than 304, 347 nobler than 321, etc. This is likely incorrect use of the term but that was 1978 and I was in middle Appalachia at the time! Thank you for clarifying; now I know what noble metals are. From what you've said I think you may be able to enlighten me about something that has always bugged me, if tungsten melts at such an extremely high temp., how do they form tungsten? What could possibly contain it in a molten state?
que presiòn de gas con el tugsteno tan largo?
just been given a esab tigaid 315 ac/dc,, I have a old oxford oil cooled welder,can they be used together ?? do not wish to go bang at my age i have had a look around now Iam getting a bit lost :( like to try aluminum and steel as i did many years ago,, before global warming was a common phrase and having V8 didnt make you spend your weeks wage to fill up, Yes its been that long so any help will be welcome
What type of combination square is that
Thank You...
I am struggling with the 3/16 stainless t-joint. Everytging seems hoid sometimes but the color is off and when its right there is sugaring. I feel like I have done everything with my adjustments and travel angle etc. However, I still cant quite feeaking get it. I dont want to give up but I just havent gotten that one peice of information that triggers my self to getting it consistantly good. Does that make sense. Its just the t-joint. Im good withbeverything else. PLEASE HELP!
Tamara Gabbard Don't know - gotta have good gas coverage, minimal heat - on the back side of stainless I'm trying out Solar Flux B for the first time to keep it sugaring on the back. How about smaller 1/16" tungsten and small .045" filler to keep the heat to a bare min? I've had good luck with this combo.
+Tamara Gabbard Could be your travel speed. I always hear stainless is best done fast, and hot enough to go fast, so that the heat input is minimal.
awesome camera wow
Why not machine a thread in the plate in the first place?
Sebastian Huth there is usually a reason. Sometimes it is over looked. Good question.
Cause when you have a hammer every problem looks like a nail...... 😂.
This was my first though. It was on cnc machine for the engraving, surely it would be cheaper and more accurate to machine from stock + bolt thickness, drill and tap. Maybe concerned about whatever distortion might result from removing material from only one side of the stock? If so, welding will generally create at least that much distortion. Lemme know if you know!
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buddy what rod did u use
Nice job :)
Stainless is pretty much a crap shoot when it comes to warpage. I machined and welded 347 and 349 and found a piece cut out of 1 bar that showed stability through the machining process would stay relatively flat throughout it's life while an identical part from another bar that showed initial instability could not be trusted. I worked in a foundry and the tools we made were used to produce bronze castings and were exposed to 100's of heating and cooling cycles per day, as well as repair welds. With the heat being absorbed by the mated (mold) surfaces both in production and in repair a good stable piece stayed that way and, well you know the rest.
i really wonder why you use the helmet you do. not a fan of auto-darkening?
cool!
Old habits die hard. I looked away when he started welding... Don't want to damage my eyes... =)