Which Shot Timer is Right for You?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Which shot timer is right for you? Well it's a personal choice and you may prefer one over another. End of the day, they all work, but some do provide some added features over others. We discuss similarities, differences, and our experience with all four. Like, subscribe, and share all you want.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:43 Why Use Timers
2:04 Common Features
3:40 CE Pocket Pro II
7:42 Pact Timer
9:36 AMG Commander
13:05 Shooters Global
17:33 Price
19:16 Outtakes
Videographer: Thomas Chi of BAER Media
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That is a lot of good information Drew. Thanks "consistency" in great videos.
Two comments on two very different companies. Baer solutions: fantastic, took a class and was awesome. AMG labs: avoid at all costs. Ordered a timer 7 months ago and have heard nothing, despite multiple emails... email being the only contact method they publicly provide. Even if I did ever receive a timer, I can’t imagine having to deal with them if there was an issue.
7 months..? Totally Unacceptable..!
I ordered mine in May. He texted me randomly maybe 2 months afterwards? I texted him back but haven't heard back in a while.
Can confirm. I actually finally got my timer.....I can't even count how many months after. Super late. The timer is actually great...really easy to use. Customer service, particularly communication, is absolutely abysmal. I'd rather buy 2 other "inferior" timers within the same timeframe or shell out for the Kestrel than buy another AMG.
Thanks for the walk thru on these timers. Very helpful.
Thanks Drew!!
Really enjoying your content, I was introduced to you through dirty civilian… I hope you do more work with them. A shot timer is that friend that doesn’t lie to you and makes you better.
Great video, really well explained!
Good review, thanks!
New to channel, loving the vids so far. Thanks for your work!
Was thinking about buying the SG but you just sold me on it. Thanks for the awesome review👍🏼
I’m in the market and really appreciate the breakdown!
Great comparison, you definitely earned my subscribe'. Keep up the great work.
My Pact timer arrived a few days ago. I wish that I knew about Shooters Global beforehand. Good review. New Sub.
Great video. Learned a lot and going to buy the shooters global, thanks
Fantastic video my friend! Thank you for sharing this, you really helped me choose the best timer for me.
You got it.
I never knew how shot timers worked. Thanks❤
I dunno about the pocket pro, but you can definitely turn the Pact timers off. Just hit the review and go buttons together.
I definitely did not know that. Thank you.
You can also turn off the Pocket Pro 2 by holding the down arrow for a few seconds.
@@AdventTraining I’ve had those for years and never knew that. A bunch of other guys I know with then didn’t know that either. Thanks for the info and I appreciate it.
Shout out to the nerds like me who read manuals
@@baersolutionslol rtfm 😂
I have a pact. It does the job. But I can definitely see the added value in the two later timers.
looking forward to seeing your review of the kestrel... whenever you can get your hands on one
Just pre ordered the SG shot timer. Awesome video much appreciated. My pact works most of the time but it got rained on for a few hours and hasn't worked great since
Thanks for the info. Excellent video. I have a pact but I think i will be getting a shooters global. Thanks for breaking that down.
Long time military and Law enforcement shooter , just new to IDPA and timers , I want one so this is a great video. You did a great job explaining everything. I was given a Competition Electronics Pocket Pro and it doesn’t work, now I know I can send it in , thank you for that!
I have the older Pocket pro, not the 2 . Lol
Looking for my 1st dedicated shot timer( not a phone app) thanks for the content
If you have an Apple Watch, shot buddy is so good. Gives you a vibration on your wrist as well as a beep and with the sensitivity changes you can be in an indoor range and it doesn’t pick up others shots
Shotbud
Take a shot every time he says "right."
Everyone should be training 50%-80% of their rep's with dry fire and air soft. In my experience, the Global and Commander have the sensitivity to pick up the hammer/striker drop. The other two do not. Depending on the phone used, the Ipsc app will also register dry fire if adjusted correctly, however, the app timers have some limitations.
BlackbeardX
Def agree. Airsoft def helped me train before i bought my first firearm
What happened to the IPSC app? can't find it in the Apple store
this is 8 months after you posted but,
the feature i like best on the pact timer is the delay is randomized each time. also it seems the amg also has its own app, not as in depth as the shooters global but its a nice feature.
I ordered and paid for the Commander 1-6-23. I recieved it in the middle of this January, 2024. I repeatedly contacted the maker with🎉 no response. Last fall, he finally said he had delays in sourcing needed chips, etc.. This is probably true considering the shortage of electronic components recently, but, I gave up on ever getting it.
So, when the SG TIMER GO came out, I ordered it. I received it fairly quickly, but, there were no operating instructions from any reliable source. I contacted the company and they said they had not completed any instructions. Finally, they produced a pretty good instructional video in January 2024.
Each of these were about $150. Now, I have two high-quality timers to spend many hours with trying to learn how to use them. Based on what I know so far, I believe I will find that one will be good at some things while the other is better in different areas. We'll see.
I love my AMG Commander. Works great with live and dry fire. I use it in concert with Dry Fire Mag for dry fire. Comes with a protective case (various colors). Found a belt clip for it on Esty for $25.00.
I've been waiting since May for mine 😒
I think the pact timer is the simplest timer for simple solutions
I've been using the range tech timer and like it alot. Connects to phone, is rechargeable, works flawlessly and is under $100.
Is it connecting to current phones? I saw reviews saying it doesn’t on newer phones and that would suck.
@@DocWhiskey1776 I have an iPhone 13. Connects no problem.
Rain proof ish?
Do you have the link?
I shoot way faster without the timer according to my highly trained mind.
Man, I just picked up my second pact pro because the first just magically turned off one day. Now I'm thinking about returning it and trying the sg global...
I’m torn between the AMG commander and the shooters global. I’ve worked with practice score but the shooters global app looks next level.
AMG will be a longgg wait.
Curretly the the SG shot timer with U grip is listing $300 on their website.
Kestrel KST1000 shot timer retails $300 but USA made, CR123 batteries, waterproof, durable, and works for airsoft/suppressed as well.
Stop shacking, man! 😂 (great video as usual!)
As a frequent visitor to indoor shooting ranges, I've experienced the limitations of sound-based shot timers firsthand. That's why I've decided to work on developing a trigger sensor, which will provide a more reliable and personal solution for tracking shooting times in environments like these. More testing on a variety of weapons in the next two weeks. It shall complement existing shot timers
Sounds like a great idea
@@tsoliot5913 Thanks. In fact it passed the test in the range with both handguns and rifles a few days ago with flying colors. Next step is to make it attachable to all guns without extra adapters.
@CJ & Julia: World Travel the Lazy Way & Reviews do you have a production page I can follow or anything?
Any thought on KST 1000?
Time for a timer video.
Just picked up a high quality gas blowback airsoft pistol. The amount of fundamentals training I can do at home for cheap cannot be overstated.
Any recommendations for brands to look into?
Hard not to consider a novritsch ssp2.
@@superslowr6581 cheers for the suggestion! Will look into it.
I need one that can single out my shots since I don't have access to a private range and usually have someone to both my left and right.
Shotmaxx 2 - it’s a wrist unit that measures the shockwave in your wrist rather than the sound of the shot ( it can do both ) Mine’s been working very well for years now . I use it for busy indoor range training.
The SG timer looks really interesting. Is there a way to have the phone app store all the data from a training session so I can review it later (without using the video function)? Currently, my range sessions take twice as long because I write down my times and splits for almost every rep of every drill.
Also, it looks like the SG timer’s delayed start can’t be randomized? That’s a major bummer.
Anyone try the indesign shot timer?
Which of these shot timers will trigger while dry firing?
The shooters global and the amg commander.
Where are the shooter global timers made. Doesn’t list on their site
is the shooters global the military version or the sports version?
The sport version
Where the hell do you get the shooters global one? I can't find anywhere US based.
I ordered directly from their website. Takes a couple weeks to get here. They moved their operations from Ukraine to Poland to be able to ship and update the app.
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I have a pact timer, and it’s great, but it doesn’t work with my suppressed ARs. I’ve tried the adjustment screw, but it doesn’t make a difference. Has anyone had luck with a shot timer and suppressed weapons?
Necropost, but my PPII works with suppressed ARs. Haven't tried it with .22s.
Pact3 should have much higher resolution screen. it would be perfect.
Went to get the shooters global one and got turned away by the $300 price tag
You’ll need to redo the video with the New Kestrel KST1000. I think you will find a new winner.
How do you like it?
Where can I buy the shooter global timer?
on their website
14:50 Rechargeable Internal Battery 🪫
Major downfall in design… especially for such an expensive shot timer. Would recommend Kestrel shot timer for that price with CR123 batteries.
Pact lasted 4 years, now it shows random numbers when browsing splits
I know I’m late but I can’t find the SG for under $299
I couldn't justify spending $130 on PACT timer that has a tiny screen, cheap body, and all it does it gives us beeps... I'm interested in shooter global.
The guy is definitely a firearms instructor. Finishes all of his sentences with “right?”.
those comp electronics ones should be 60 bucks for the build quality and features, i cant bring my self to pay 150 for those things.
If u have 4 that’s broken;then it can’t be a good timer !
All shot timers are over priced.
True
But if u can save up and get one great investment
I think the Pocket Pro, CED, & PACT timers are overpriced, but the 2 newer ones in this video seem to have enough features to make the price reasonable, IMO.
I cannot recommend the SG Smart timer. I order mine In July. I still haven't received it. Communication is sparse as well. None outside of sales buy our app emails.
Looks cool here but worthless if you can't get it.
Ukraine got invaded and they had to escape to Poland. I had to wait a long time for mine. Worth the wait.
@@chrisosterfund9784 how long was your wait? I ordered July 13th 2022. I haven't received it yet.
I get the Ukraine invasion issue. That sucks for sure. But I still couldn't recommend it. If you need/want a timer. This isn't it. Not right now at least. I'm at 7 months wait and counting. Those are NFA wait times.
Your ce timer breaks cuz you throw them. It's not meant for you lol.
Clearly a paid advertisement
Helpful video. I assume you value improvement in all aspects of your training and performance; may I suggest you work on your verbal tic of ending every sentence with "right?" It's extremely annoying to listen to for some people. Rock on.
If you have safe full of guns but don’t have a shot timer, I’m 100% certain that you don’t have the skills necessary to run any of them well.
Not necessarily. I don’t currently own a shot timer and I can run pretty much all of my guns better than most shooters. Now granted I do compete in 2 Gun, 3 Gun and IDPA and shoot about 200-300 rounds a week, but you don’t need a shot timer to be a good shooter (even though it can further develop your skills.)
@@ethanmccracken6489 lol. You shoot competitions and train with several hundred rounds per week and you don’t use a shot timer? Sounds like your training is unfocused trash. It’s like being a competitive runner and saying that you don’t time your tempo runs or intervals. How do you gauge improvements during live and dry fire? How do you know where to focus your efforts in training to shore up discrepancies? If you aren’t timing yourself during training, you’re pissing into the wind.
Serious question: what do your typical dryfire and livefire training sessions look like? How do you know if the dryfire training is carrying over to livefire performance if you aren’t recording times and points?
@@EuropaChronicles I’m not saying I don’t have experience on a timer. They use them in pretty much all of the competitions I’ve competed in, so I do gather data when I compete. I can distinguish bad runs from ok runs to good runs based on the amount of reps I do each week. Is it a perfect science? No. But it’s good enough to get me wins and placements if I don’t win.
Now to your question regarding my dry fire drills. I use dry fire drills mainly to keep my draws and reloads sharp and consistent. Since I shoot every week, live fire is where I really practice things like shot placement, cadence of fire, control, and trigger resets.
I do plan on buying a shot timer soon so I can track things during training more accurately, but don’t assume that someone whom you’ve never shot with has trash training. I guarantee you if we went to the range together, your opinion of my abilities would change. The only shooting sport I don’t have much experience in is PRS, and I’m starting to become more involved in that now as well since I just got a membership to a 1000 yard range a week ago.
99.9% of the US military doesn’t have the necessary skills to run their weapons well then, because they don’t have a shot timer.
Dumbest comment I’ve read in a while.