Inside The Cockpit - MiG-29 'Fulcrum' (9.12)

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  • The MiG-29 is part of the last Soviet jet fighter developments during the Cold War. Used also by East Germany, the 9.12 model eventually became part of the re-unified German Luftwaffe in an ironic twist of fate. The MiG-29 contiuned to be developed by Russia and became the 'father' of the more recent types in use.
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  • @MilitaryAviationHistory
    @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 3 lety +89

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    • @user-nv1xw3hd8d
      @user-nv1xw3hd8d Před 3 lety +3

      I liked this one I hope you do more of these with jets in the future!

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 3 lety +6

      @@user-nv1xw3hd8d That's the goal ;)

    • @user-nv1xw3hd8d
      @user-nv1xw3hd8d Před 3 lety +2

      @@MilitaryAviationHistory great, looking forward to it!

    • @weigander
      @weigander Před 3 lety +3

      Greetings
      I think there 2 importent Thinks to add...
      The Mig29 and the Su27 were the first Jets with integreated IR Sensors (this Bubble on the Nose)
      The hemet mountet aiming System

    • @stalkerstarg3975
      @stalkerstarg3975 Před 3 lety +4

      why are you аmericans so fond of insulting other country technics equipment, planes and tanks and ships, with your abuse prefix names, especially the technics equipment of the USSR. Are your military, your country - so afraid?

  • @rvs55
    @rvs55 Před 3 lety +325

    Both the SU-27 and MiG-29 are beautiful.

    • @MetaJamm
      @MetaJamm Před 3 lety +20

      Yeah good looking planes, and SU-35 have an even better look imho. Latest SU-57 is lost some charm of hes precessors, they become bit "raptorificated".

    • @BeKindToBirds
      @BeKindToBirds Před 3 lety +18

      @@MetaJamm Yeah, aerodynamic beauty is so much better than radar effective shapes. It really is a shame.

    • @RR-ti8yb
      @RR-ti8yb Před 2 lety +1

      @@BeKindToBirds why you gotta be like that man?

    • @LogieT2K
      @LogieT2K Před 2 lety +12

      @@RR-ti8yb nah hes right
      stealth/VLO planes are all generic and boring looking
      Peak 4th gen jets are just beautiful though
      Flankers, fulcrums, vipers, eagles, rafale, eurofighter and gripen
      All beautiful, all unique designs, and different ways taking advantage of aerodynamic physics

    • @JohnHughesChampigny
      @JohnHughesChampigny Před 2 lety +5

      @@williamschlosser77 "These aircraft can't even see an f22 or a f33" -- Well, they might have some problems against an F22, but I doubt they'd have any difficulty dealing with a BMW Series 4 F33.

  • @GraveyIRL
    @GraveyIRL Před 3 lety +978

    One of the sexiest looking aircraft ever made.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce Před 3 lety +26

      If nothing else, it's a thing of beauty.

    • @burningpotato9447
      @burningpotato9447 Před 3 lety +17

      I think the f15 looks a bit better

    • @GraveyIRL
      @GraveyIRL Před 3 lety +64

      @Tonya Patrick How can you say the Su-27 is a beauty and not the Mig-29. Both have beautiful curves.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce Před 3 lety +10

      Flanker and Fulcrum, ever seen a cobra or a backslide from an F15.

    • @burningpotato9447
      @burningpotato9447 Před 3 lety +25

      @@ABrit-bt6ce those are incredibly cool moves but actually useless in battle. You dump all your speed and energy while your opponent still has all of theirs and a skillfully pilot can deal with them especially a f18 which has good low speed AOA and an f15 which was design for air superiority and dog fighting which Israelis proved it was very good at doing

  • @Incarn
    @Incarn Před 3 lety +411

    Don't know why, but I find the MiG-29 incredibly gorgeous.

    • @stephenryan1690
      @stephenryan1690 Před 3 lety +4

      I love RUSSIAN jets, proper sex machines.

    • @jayjay53313
      @jayjay53313 Před 3 lety +4

      I find it outdated with less user-friendly buttons, poor RWR and lacked of MFDs. Seeing this video explains why numbers of Mig-29S being shot down due to impractical position of vital buttons for air engagement. You may compare to older F-15A where everything is less digital similar to Mig-29S. You'll find the F-15A being more practical, everything you need for air engagement is on the flight stick and throttle.

    • @deltacharlieromeo8252
      @deltacharlieromeo8252 Před 3 lety +25

      @@jayjay53313 not when a Russian uses it. I know, you know, and everyone knows that the pilots who were in MiG29 in the middle east were very poorly trained compared to the Israeli pilots.

    • @jayjay53313
      @jayjay53313 Před 3 lety +3

      @@deltacharlieromeo8252 Iraqi ace pilots in Mig-25 done well in spoofing enemy missiles but due to poor avionics, they can't really retaliate but escaped. Whether at hands on Russian or foreign pilots, Russian fighters before 1996, they are just not user-friendly and could cause you trouble.

    • @junkookbts1273
      @junkookbts1273 Před 3 lety

      @@deltacharlieromeo8252 , MiG 29 pilots are trained by Russian pilots so basically Russians are not even good trainers

  • @vitkriklan2633
    @vitkriklan2633 Před 3 lety +66

    As a boy in Czech Republic, I've once seen 5 or 6 of these flying low in a formation, overflying our village and disappearing behind a hill. It may have been their last flight since the whole fleet of 10 has been sold to Poland in 1995.

  • @gripen777
    @gripen777 Před rokem +21

    I love that, in the pursuit of good performing aircraft, the designs just so happen to look so good. Doesn't matter what country or which manufacturer. The F-14 is iconic and simply satisfying to looks at. The Draken is intimidating and certainly unique, first aircraft to be able to perform a Cobra to my knowledge. The F-15 just feels fast. It can get it's wing sheared off and still be able to land. The F/A-18 stings harder than any hornet and those LEX are beautiful. The Gripen, the Typhoon and the Rafale have my vote for their canards. The Su-27 looks like it slices through the air. The F-22 looks majestic and I swear that it's doing some sort of air bending, along with the Su-57. And the MiG-29 is one of my favorites. I'm not even sure why, it looks amazing.

    • @knowsmebyname
      @knowsmebyname Před 4 měsíci

      The Mig 29 looks slightly sinister imo. Justba real nice looking aircraft...especially for its time. Nice list my friend.

  • @khaccanhle1930
    @khaccanhle1930 Před 3 lety +70

    This and the F16 were my two "pin up" aircraft for my bedroom wall as a kid in the 90s.

    • @arjunmadan318
      @arjunmadan318 Před 3 lety +6

      You know what?
      *THAT REPRESENTS A VERY GOOD CHOICE*

    • @jvbenjamin
      @jvbenjamin Před 3 lety +1

      Same here. 29 and 21 in my case

  • @PaddyPatrone
    @PaddyPatrone Před 3 lety +7

    Einer der schönsten Düsenjäger überhaupt! Hatte vor 20 Jahren tatsächlich mal ne Deutsche Mig29 auf einer Airshow gesehen. War definitiv beeindruckend die Vorführung.

  • @cyruslovesindia
    @cyruslovesindia Před 3 lety +83

    This is the cockpit (as shown in the video) is of the old legacy 4th generation MiG 29 of the 1980's.
    Such cockpits with analog dials are not in use anymore at-least not with India which uses MiG 29 UPG in the Air-Force and MiG 29 K in the Navy.

  • @rakyatmarhaen3889
    @rakyatmarhaen3889 Před 3 lety +5

    Mig29 is my first love and its will stay forever in my heart...😍😍😍😍

  • @mrblaoblao6981
    @mrblaoblao6981 Před rokem +8

    The Museum in Berlin-Gatow is awesome. I never get tired of it: MiGs, Sukhois, Phantoms, etc. There's even a British Harrier there!

  • @LaCorvette
    @LaCorvette Před 3 lety +234

    I'm amazed by how your videos steadily increase in quality. I especially liked the outlines added in the cockpit explanation part.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 3 lety +32

      Thank you, glad you like them!

    • @tedferkin
      @tedferkin Před 3 lety +1

      I like that we now have the addition of sound effects..........

    • @sheeplord4976
      @sheeplord4976 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MilitaryAviationHistory It would be interesting to see a video that goes into the design philosophy of russian cockpits. I personally find the use of color, contrast, and HUD design to be much more human oriented with better accounting for human mental calculation despite the quite cramped nature of russian jets making the physical accommodations lacking.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Před 3 lety +21

    I like how the they were kind enough to label the cockpit switches in English. And how artificial horizon instrument has a picture of a JU-87 Stuka, nostalgic when you’re in a dive.

    • @hound83
      @hound83 Před 3 lety +2

      In a Russian jet in German service :P

    • @ironnads7975
      @ironnads7975 Před 2 lety +1

      It was in German service, hence the German Luftwaffe markings on it...

    • @boranates1320
      @boranates1320 Před 2 lety

      Just because it's wings are curved doesnt mean thats a stuka in the artifical horizon

    • @boranates1320
      @boranates1320 Před 2 lety +1

      Also they didn't change the instrument. It was like that in the soviet and russian air force as well

  • @lachlanwebb5171
    @lachlanwebb5171 Před 3 lety +89

    The outlining of the instruments is really good. Makes it very easy to see the odd bits and pieces I'd miss by myself.

  • @tomusmc1993
    @tomusmc1993 Před 3 lety +29

    Love to hear the phrase "... and its still flying to this day" about an aircraft thst was cutting edge in my era lol. I always was fascinated by the MiG-29. Just a beautiful plane.

  • @F5Storm1
    @F5Storm1 Před 2 lety +10

    As an American the Mig 29 and Su 27 and Mig 25/31 are my favorite Soviet jets, the engine inlet doors and wing vents are genius.

  • @eamo106
    @eamo106 Před 3 lety +1

    Picked up in the 90s at a Russian Airport by my Oil Service Company rep doing taxi driver duties. He spoke some English , me no Russian. Two hour conversation condensed: How is life?/could be better. How long working for us ?/ 2 years. What is your full time job with us / A Mechanic. How is the pay/not so bad . What did you do before >?// I was a Mig 29 pilot and test pilot on the look to kill technology . Best taxi ride ever and never felt so humble.

  • @Razumist
    @Razumist Před 3 lety +154

    МиГ это не Микоян! МиГ - это Микоян и Гуревич
    MiG - its not Mikoyan!! MiG - its Mikoyan and Gurevich

    • @halowraith1
      @halowraith1 Před 3 lety +8

      gurevich retired so they removed his name.

    • @Razumist
      @Razumist Před 3 lety +2

      @@mitchrocks8432 интересная инфа. спасибо

    • @Razumist
      @Razumist Před 3 lety

      @@mitchrocks8432 но микоян же принимал участие в проектировании уже реактивных мигов?

    • @Razumist
      @Razumist Před 3 lety

      @@maxrusskiy2749 в какой именно? в той что я написал или в той что написал человек под поим постом?

    • @maxrusskiy2749
      @maxrusskiy2749 Před 3 lety

      @@Razumist второе!случайно твой ник нажал.

  • @johnwayne2103
    @johnwayne2103 Před 3 lety +6

    I've been in love with the Mig-29 when I first saw it in KoKu Fan magazine 1986

  • @MaverickEchoJuliet
    @MaverickEchoJuliet Před 3 lety +3

    Its very proportionate and looks good in every angle

  • @Military-TV
    @Military-TV Před 3 lety +99

    The U.S. intelligence community first learned of the new Soviet aircraft from satellite photos in November 1977, about the time of the jet’s first flight. Simply by looking at the size and the shape of it, it was clear that the Soviets were developing a counterpart to our F-16 and F/A-18.

    • @nikolayn4153
      @nikolayn4153 Před 3 lety +6

      stupidity

    • @thebrad271
      @thebrad271 Před 3 lety +3

      So?

    • @thebosscatman7
      @thebosscatman7 Před 3 lety +3

      ya they thought it was one of there's started calling all the base's having them check there invertory for any missing planes.

  • @mikemontgomery2654
    @mikemontgomery2654 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for this video, Bismarck. I have a 1/32 plastic model on its way and I can most definitely use this as reference for my build.

  • @magoid
    @magoid Před 3 lety +10

    As a self appointed fighter aircraft specialist, I blame most of the MiG-29 limitations on its landing gear. Being set short, it set in motion a series of compromises that undermined the aircraft effectiveness.
    First, it cut loose 2 valuable hard-points under the intakes, that could be set to carry fuel tanks, heavy missiles, heavy bombs and even targeting pods.
    Second, it led to the expense of making a elaborated anti-FOD system, that in turn led to reduced fuselage fuel capacity.
    Third, it imposed a limitation of AOA on take-off and landings, thus increasing runway distances.
    Had they adopted Sukhoi's landing gear stance, much higher on the ground, the MiG-29 could have had much better range/payload capability.
    Also, would kill MiG to lower the canopy sidelines? I now tradition is a hard thing to abandon, but man did they tried hard not to improve too much on the 21/23/25's cockpit visibility.

    • @KimmyR3
      @KimmyR3 Před 3 lety +1

      i think the FOD system was actually a neat and simple solution for their intended use of the plane.

    • @cannonfodder4376
      @cannonfodder4376 Před 3 lety +3

      They manage to stuff a targeting pod on the engine nacelle on the MiG-35, its quite a small pod though.
      And yeah the FOD system while effective fudged its fuel capacity unnecessarily compared to the Flanker's mesh screen system.
      And on the M/K and other modernized variants the canopy was bulged further along with the seat raised. The original Fulcrum while good on visibility, was not as good as it could be.
      All good points though.

    • @user-qn3xu5ee3t
      @user-qn3xu5ee3t Před 3 lety +1

      Tf, where would you hide those gears? F-16 doesn't have F-14s gears and is still considered to be ok in terms of the amount of weapons it carries

    • @magoid
      @magoid Před 3 lety

      @@user-qn3xu5ee3t What?

    • @ricardosoto5770
      @ricardosoto5770 Před 3 lety +1

      Also the radar and ECM were compromised by CIA spionage even before the airplane was fielded. So ECM and contermeasures can be fittted to western aircraft in the 80s.

  • @guyfleetwood8004
    @guyfleetwood8004 Před 3 lety +3

    I love the level of detail in your videos - you've definitely done your homework - AWESOME!!!

  • @jvbenjamin
    @jvbenjamin Před 3 lety +23

    Very well made video, with excellent choice of background music.
    Greetings from India. My dad is a former FULCRUM pilot. He used to command a MiG-29 airbase in North India in the 90s. As kids, we would love to stand at the tower and watch full-reheat takeoffs! 🎉

  • @dr.karelis2198
    @dr.karelis2198 Před rokem +2

    SIMPLY THE MOST BEAUTIFULL AIRCRAFT EVER

  • @georgejackson4105
    @georgejackson4105 Před 3 lety +6

    No frills in the cockpit here! Very dark and spartan! A bit grim even - with an instrument panel that looks like it belongs on Noah's Ark. But I guess this is why the Soviets had a reputation for robustness and reliability/simplicity of design. I would love to see one of these with a modern avionics package!

  • @xXGhosttrolledXx
    @xXGhosttrolledXx Před 3 lety +4

    The sound effects you made were a good enough reason to subscribe.

  • @danbrooks4209
    @danbrooks4209 Před 2 lety +1

    This is my favorite jet...1 bullet to take out a f18,6 or 7 bullets for da f18 to take out a mig 29.that helmet is a beast too

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 Před 3 lety +26

    While the Su-27 and its variants are undoubtedly the superior and longer lasting fighter to emerge from the Soviet Union, the comparatively smaller and lighter Fulcrum still holds a spot in my heart. Has a homey appearance that the Flanker lacks.
    Too bad the disintegration of the Soviet Union and the comparative lack of value in even the upgraded Fulcrums compared to the Flankers meant the Fulcrum has taken the backseat to its bigger cousin. I would say the Fulcrum never really got to prove and be brought to its fullest potential until recently. Its a shame that everyone judges Fulcrums only from its initial models, without even bothering to acknowledge the newer developments and versions that exist.
    This is an episode I have been eagerly awaiting. Good work Bismarck, hopefully one of these days you can visit Russia and really go wild doing videos on past and current Russian aircraft.

    • @FallenPhoenix86
      @FallenPhoenix86 Před 3 lety +11

      MiG-29K got the last laugh at least... rejected by the Russian Navy in favour of the Su-33 only to come back 30 years later and effectively replace the Su-33... at leastuntil a crane fell through the Kuznetsov's flight deck and it doesn't matter anymore...

    • @cannonfodder4376
      @cannonfodder4376 Před 3 lety +2

      @@FallenPhoenix86 True, the 29K is much more suited to the Kuznetsov.
      One wonders why they continue to keep the Kuznetsov in service though given its troubles.

    • @MenRot
      @MenRot Před 3 lety +2

      @@cannonfodder4376 Prestige, Thailand and Brazil keep them for the same reason, I believe.

    • @ricardosoto5770
      @ricardosoto5770 Před 3 lety +1

      The SU 27 might be the better plane, but the Mig 29 in my opinion is prettier.

    • @fonesrphunny7242
      @fonesrphunny7242 Před 3 lety

      ​@@cannonfodder4376 Because of the Montreux Convention from 1936. Very simplified: aircraft carriers are not allowed to use the Turkish straights to get into or out of the Black Sea.
      The Kuznetsov (then "Tbilisi") and earlier Kiev-Class vessels were officially designated "heavy aircraft/flightdeck cruisers". They are heavy cruisers with cruiser armament and with the addition of a flight deck. This way the aircraft carrier restriction didn't apply. It sounds stupid, but that's how bureaucracy and politics intertwine sometimes.
      The English Wiki page has a small section just about carriers if you want more details.
      Another factor might be demand and cost, however I'm not sure Russia would get away with the same trick anyways. The world has 'slightly' changed in the last 80+ years.

  • @Tepnox
    @Tepnox Před 3 lety +7

    Flying this beast in VR in DCS World is amazing! I like the cockpit layout and feel of the sturdiness. The trim and dampening is little weird in flight. Hoping to sit in a real Mig29 Cockpit in the future to check it out for myself.

  • @cerrystyle
    @cerrystyle Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for the awesome explanation, very satisfying as this jet is one of my favorites of the previous century.

  • @jacobhill3302
    @jacobhill3302 Před 3 lety +3

    Your getting very good at hosting/writing/editing these vids Bismarck! Dont know if its you all alone or have help but you guys/gals? should be proud.

  • @guyfleetwood8004
    @guyfleetwood8004 Před 3 lety +1

    I've just subscribed to your channel. I don't know why I've never found your videos before, they're awesome. I study military history, and specifically I study the history of military technology. So your videos are perfect for me. Thank you for your videos.

  • @sandeepsidhu9161
    @sandeepsidhu9161 Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful and descriptive video as always for enthusiasts!

  • @grizwoldphantasia5005
    @grizwoldphantasia5005 Před rokem +2

    Had a boss in the late 1990s who was a retired USAF colonel, with his last posting being a test pilot for captured Soviet planes, some put back together from crash sites with placards warning the left wing was bent 3 degrees down, don't pull over 5 Gs. I don't remember the exact planes. He said they were incredibly maneuverable, a dream to toss around the sky, and he could get on any American fighter's tail easy as cake. But the ergonomics were atrocious. He spent half his time scanning gauges instead of outside, they were not in any logical order, and whenever he did get on somebody's tail, actually firing weapons was a real problem at 8 Gs and he'd always lose his lock and have to start maneuvering back into position. You could tell what mixed emotions he had over them, wishing they had better ergonomics while glad they didn't.
    I'm sure I've forgotten a lot of details and generalized too much from a few short conversations. But he wasn't the kind to sugar coat anything. 30 years and never got past colonel because he hated the politics of flag officers and refused to pussyfoot around them. Pretty neat guy.

  • @KitKabinet
    @KitKabinet Před 3 lety +31

    One of the sexiest looking 4th-gen jets imho, with only the Flanker being even hotter.

  • @eliaslundstedt5607
    @eliaslundstedt5607 Před 3 lety +5

    I visited an air museum when I was in Berlin in 2016, when I was only 12, but I still found it amazing, as I have always been a real passionate person of everything that is within the categories of planes,tanks,cars,bikes,boats,trains,trucks,heavy machinery,industry,history regarding all of theese and historic events, and much more. Sadly It was not this one, I visited Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin, Wich I can really recommend too. They got Cool and rare planes like the He 219 and Bf 110. Also they have an entire section about Railways, and one about naval vessels. But sadly I missed this one, as I would have loved to see the Mig 29 in person. I will go back to Berlin for sure tho, I really enjoyed the city overall

    • @vinnievlieg9352
      @vinnievlieg9352 Před 2 lety

      I can really recommend this museum, the amount of planes they have there is insane i personnaly really liked it

  • @a.michael2837
    @a.michael2837 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video - lack of ergonomics is a huge highlight and easily seen on how they approached building fighter aircraft in that era. Only recommendation is when you noted the cockpit seemed relatively comfortable, fighter pilots tend not to think just in terms of comfort, but visibility. Your shoulders were nearly level with the canopy sill, indicating the visibility, particularly towards the lower quadrants and also over the shoulder would be poor. Another big benefit to Western fighters such as the F-16, F-15, and F/A-18.

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 Před 3 lety +7

    Soviets don't make many pretty planes but the 29 is very pretty. I suppose comfy seating isn't that important for whats essentially a point defence fighter not an uber long range aircraft.

  • @samuelhopely4853
    @samuelhopely4853 Před 3 lety +1

    The instruments are just really lovely to look at. It's amazing to see them in English!

  • @judbakilam
    @judbakilam Před 2 lety +1

    Great video once again. Looking forward to the next one

  • @Senbonzakura776
    @Senbonzakura776 Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome vid. I have had a love for the MiG-29 since I was a kid. Only time I ever got to see one was I think on 2206 at Farnborough but it was the MiG-35.

    • @masaukochitsamba7808
      @masaukochitsamba7808 Před 2 lety

      So you have traveled back in time. 2206 is long into the future you know.

  • @mr_derpo9729
    @mr_derpo9729 Před 3 lety +6

    I’ve been to the museum where the MiG-29 is at and I have to say it is a severely understaffed and under visited museum.

    • @paulplus3830
      @paulplus3830 Před 3 lety

      Can you actually enter the cockpit, like he did?

  • @bazej1080
    @bazej1080 Před 3 lety +79

    There is one mistake in the video: you have stated MiG-29 had better T/W ratio, acceleration, climb rate, turn rate, G limit than F-15, F-16 and even Eurofighter... :) - this is simply false.
    First lightest MiG-29A 9.12 had comparable T/W ratio to the most produced cold war F-16C block 30 GE engine and F-15C and incomparably weaker than Eurofighter which has identical mass to MiG-29 and two tons more thrust, but EF is simply more modern plane, designed specifically to defeat Su-27 and MiG-29 family planes in maneuver air combat at daily basis, that was the starting point of the EF design.
    When it comes to acceleration Eurofighter is a lot better than the rest, next is F-16C block 30, then MiG-29, than F-15C (with very small difference between them except for Eurofighter).
    Climb rate Eurofighter again the best by far, next MiG-29, F-16C block 30 and F-15C - all very close.
    When it comes to sustained turn rate again Eurofighter is far better than the rest, next is F-16C block 30, next MiG-29 and F-15C being equal.
    When it comes to G limit EF and F-16C are the best with full envelope 9G, next is F-15C with full envelope of 9G (without one small transsonic region of 8G) and MiG-29 9.12 is last with 9G only up to 0.85Ma and 7.5G above 0.85Ma. Limiting factor was structural integrity of vertical stabilisers. If you like me to send you some hard data or NATO pilot's reports flying MiG-29 and comparing them directly to F-16 and F-15 - I'll be at home after the weekend. Great channel, keep it up!

    • @bazej1080
      @bazej1080 Před 3 lety +5

      @Kirk Wolfe MiG-29 was indeed very important for Soviet Aviation.
      It was the first Soviet fighter design which emphasized maneuverability since 1950 MiG-15/MiG-17 when NATO was using highly maneuverable fighters since early 1970s.
      Second MiG-29 radar, having it's limitations, was able to see the targets against ground surface flying below the plane.
      (And MiG-29 simply looks beautiful.)

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 Před 3 lety +8

      I suggest you read the reports from the West German pilots who got to test it after unification. The MiG-29 was pretty primitive, even crude, in comparison to the latest Western designs and was very short or range but it was a lot more manoeuvrable thanks to its high T/W and lifting body design.
      _"Peter “Stoini” Steiniger was a former West German fighter pilot and graduate of the prestigious Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training at Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas. Returning to Germany, he flew the F-4F, an export version of the legendary McDonnell Douglas Phantom, which would continue in German service until 2013. As a lieutenant in 1986, he and his fellow pilots had been shown satellite photos of a sobering new Soviet design. A scant five years after reunification, he was living a surreal twist of history: He was not only a mission-ready Fulcrum pilot, but also JG 73’s operations officer, busy coordinating exchange visits. “For example,” Steiniger says, “I would pair this young, pumped-up, and all-excited F-16 pilot with an ‘original’ NVA equivalent to go out and fight one-on-one neutral [basic fighter maneuvers]. We had hundreds of missions like this, with thousands of lessons learned in debriefings with our counterpart [in Western aircraft] hanging on our words and staring at our video tape…most of the time in astonishment.”"_
      The article this comes from could not realistically be described as particularly neutral. It is, for the most part, very critical of the MiG - even down to irrelevancies like,
      _"Let’s face it: Soviet jets are ugly, and MiGs are some of the worst offenders."_
      So if this article, which has been reprinted in a lot of other places, could come to the conclusion that its T/W and BFM characteristics were enough to leave the average black-suiter agape, then I'm inclined to believe it's probably quite true.

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA Před 3 lety

      yet somehow, until fairly recently the Eurofighter was still using a mechanically steered antenna for it's main radar...kinda sad to see the pinnacle of Western EU fighter design end up like this...
      Also, in order for the EF to weigh the same as the MiG-29, both have to be empty :P
      The EF has 50% more fuel capacity then the MiG and 30% more MTOW, the main difference are the engines which are smaller, lighter, more fuel efficient and yet more powerful. Also at least 10 years newer and using engineering porn like single crystal turbine blades and complex-shape fan blades. TWR really depends on the loadout...

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA Před 3 lety

      @@bazej1080 it was important in more ways...its engines are the first soviet turbofan in a fighter, a considerable portion of the vertical stabilizers is made from composites and the plane employs titanium parts.

    • @ricardosoto5770
      @ricardosoto5770 Před 3 lety +3

      People who has flown and are qualified for the F 15, F 16C and Mig 29 said that the Mig 29 is between the F 15 and the F 16C in manoverability. Not a bad place to be. Saldy the airplane was happered by bad electronics compromised by espionage. And has a incredible short range and no air refueling capability.

  • @oriontheraptor8119
    @oriontheraptor8119 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite modern fighter design

  • @justinchetham-strode5234
    @justinchetham-strode5234 Před 3 lety +2

    Thankyou Bismarck, for your informative videos, I enjoy watching them. I do wish you'd do a bit more on the fantastic/crazy flying crates of WW1, they truly fascinate me, as do the mad pilots that flew them. I look forward to your next clip.

    • @justinchetham-strode5234
      @justinchetham-strode5234 Před 3 lety

      P.S. Do you know of any sites that have colour photos of von Richtofen's ''Flying Circus''?

  • @PaulewingStHelens
    @PaulewingStHelens Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent video. Very informative and interesting. It's such a beautiful aeroplane.

  • @Paveway-chan
    @Paveway-chan Před 3 lety +5

    Something tells me that our boi really likes the Fulcrum... Also, ”bumbling, heavy-handed bruteness”? Love the expression 😆

  • @Pylon5Productions
    @Pylon5Productions Před 3 lety +3

    Production quality outstanding on this one, Bis. Looking forward to more.

  • @KAH61
    @KAH61 Před 3 lety +12

    My father was the first person from the west who saw this plane in reality. It was well hidden in a Red Army hangar in Poland but he convinced/charmed two russian airbase soldiers to show him the plane. Must say I am a little bit proud over this achievement during the Cold War. R.I.P my beloved and brave father.

  • @tacoenvy
    @tacoenvy Před 3 lety +3

    Fantastic video, absolutely love the 29!

  • @birmallowchakraborty9547
    @birmallowchakraborty9547 Před 3 lety +4

    You forgot to mention about the cobra maneuver. The first aircraft to do so

  • @divarachelenvy
    @divarachelenvy Před 3 lety +1

    utterly fascinating thank you...

  • @rotflstudio
    @rotflstudio Před 3 lety

    Interesting to see all cockpit devices captions being written in English there.
    great video!

  • @zoltangabordudas4393
    @zoltangabordudas4393 Před 3 lety +2

    What a beautyful piece!

  • @nigeh5326
    @nigeh5326 Před 3 lety +2

    Would love to see you interview guys, inc ground crew, from some of the display teams. Teams such as the Red Arrows, Thunderbirds, Swift’s etc

  • @thebosscatman7
    @thebosscatman7 Před 3 lety +1

    i like how they keep it simple in the cockpit

  • @exegeta4376
    @exegeta4376 Před 3 lety +2

    My favorite one in DCS and the archer missile never misses!

  • @igorkratka
    @igorkratka Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. Thank you for valuable content.

  • @IrishManJT
    @IrishManJT Před 3 lety

    Fantastic! Thank you so much.

  • @TeaTime574
    @TeaTime574 Před 3 lety +1

    its amazing to see upclose, they have one in the air and space museum in AZ

  • @luisnunobrito3132
    @luisnunobrito3132 Před 3 lety +3

    One of the most iconic fighter jets in the world!

  • @Tosca_666
    @Tosca_666 Před 3 lety +5

    Hoy suben de forma muy positiva tus suscriptores, Mig-29 !

  • @roadrunner6224
    @roadrunner6224 Před 3 lety +49

    Seeing the Hawks behind you, SAMs would be an interesting topic, as I feel there aren’t so many videos about them. Certainly not any with the quality your channel provides.

    • @ji3194
      @ji3194 Před 3 lety +6

      It would be an awesome video topic. I love HAWKS my local NG unit had them until they converted to a sustainment unit.

  • @nirfz
    @nirfz Před 3 lety +7

    Great Video! always like the outside look of the 29 and the unique features like the air intake stuff... What i did miss a bit in the video, is what supposedly was one of the things considered most important back then (at least in the literature that was available to me over 20 years ago): The "FLIR" target aquisition thingy in front of the copckpit, which supposedly enabled target aquisition wihtout using radar beyond visual range. -> preventing an alarm on the radar warning receiver of your target airplane.

    • @Foxbat916
      @Foxbat916 Před 3 lety +1

      I see what you mean. I read it as a cost-effective alternative to be stealthy at the time. The only refference in the video is at 10:48 where the sensor selector switch is shown. IR is what you'd switch to.
      To be fair, the vid does not go into detail regarding sensors, including radar.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz Před 3 lety +3

      @@Foxbat916 True, maybe he's doing a part 2... (it just occured to me that the link between the warhead of the AA missiles and the helmet was also not mentioned. -> The feature that the german pilots in NATO exercises used to frustrate the western aircraft pilots)

    • @m1sz3lpl24
      @m1sz3lpl24 Před 3 lety +3

      @@nirfz yeah, the helmet mounted sights combined with R-73 and ridiculous thrust to weight and nose authority meant it was a death sentence for anything that came within 15-10km of the MiG. That thing was a beast in BFM, and its still giving a tough time to the NATO pilots in training flown by the Poles.

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA Před 3 lety +1

      @@Foxbat916 it's not just thermal, it's a full optical suite of sensors in that pod. One of the more important ones is a laser range finder. It not a cheap alternative to stealth, it helps with tracking (bigger lens then you can stuff into a missile) and range finding when the radar can't provide reliable data, like in heavy clutter from terrain or when jammed by ECM.

    • @Foxbat916
      @Foxbat916 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AKAtheA Oh, I agree. I did my fair share of reading to understand the operational theory of the EOS sensor and how it interacted with other aircraft systems back in the day.
      That's why I was careful in my choice if words: cost-effective, not cheap. The cost to develop and implement EOS is a fraction of the cost of developing and building a proper stealth fighter.
      Also "alternative to be stealthy" comes with implications, because even though the goal is similar: to avoid detection; the method to achieve it and the situations where it is applicable are very different.

  • @robertbennett9949
    @robertbennett9949 Před 3 lety +1

    I like this type of video and commentary. Very knowledgeable. Thank you.

  • @santifresnel2320
    @santifresnel2320 Před 3 lety +14

    "Company" sounds a bit strange and decadent, being it was soviet era, comrade. Gulag for you! They were rather "bureaus".

  • @treypeters1087
    @treypeters1087 Před 3 měsíci

    the best aviation history channel on the tube, thanks chris

  • @Masada1911
    @Masada1911 Před 3 lety +2

    This plane is up there for me as far as cold war era fighters go

  • @vojtasTS29
    @vojtasTS29 Před 2 lety +2

    I wish you'd have talked about the HMD, possibly the most cutting edge feature to be included in the design.

  • @bobdopsopdap4583
    @bobdopsopdap4583 Před 2 lety +3

    Very beautiful aircraft the MiG-29 , love it.

  • @shootingwithmitch5921
    @shootingwithmitch5921 Před 3 lety +1

    Very cool plane, thanks for the great video!!

  • @damiandiesel1
    @damiandiesel1 Před 3 lety +3

    One of the most beautiful aircraft designs I have ever seen.

  • @yubisnake
    @yubisnake Před 3 lety +1

    Very educational, enjoyed it

  • @chosearmandoarmando3864
    @chosearmandoarmando3864 Před 3 lety +1

    DDR as any other Warsaw pact country the used the 9.12A variant, not the 9.12. The 9.12 was only used by soviet airforce. The 9.12A export version of the aircraft type MiG-29 (iz.9.12) (Fulcrum A) for the states of the Warsaw Pact with a simplified weapon system and a different type of identification system. The weapon system of this model consisted of an electro-optical aiming and navigation system type OEPrNK-29E (S-31E) and a radar aiming system type RPLK-29EA, which was built on the shooting radar type N019EA Rubín (Slot Back I). It had only two search modes, while the radar type N019 Ruby (Slot Back I) had three search modes. In addition, the export MiG-29 (iz.9.12A) (Fulcrum A) could not play the role of carrier of the tactical nuclear bomb. Serial production of this model began in 1988.

  • @notbugs
    @notbugs Před 3 lety +1

    Really interesting and informative video. 👍

  • @Alphonselle
    @Alphonselle Před 3 lety +20

    MiG Bureau: We will design THE definitive air superiority fighter of the Soviet Union!
    Sukhoi: Allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @PyromaN93
      @PyromaN93 Před 3 lety +8

      MiG-29 and Su-27 have different purpose. 29 is first echelon light fighter

    • @LjubomirLjubojevic
      @LjubomirLjubojevic Před 3 lety +2

      Mig-29 is much smaller fighter, with smaller range but also smaller turn radius, etc. It was designed for frontline fighting and is most popular with countries that have small airspace. You can not even turn SU-27 in Serbian airspace for example. Su-27 s MUCH larger and was designed for longer range missions, larger areas to cover and to carry bigger load.

    • @PyromaN93
      @PyromaN93 Před 3 lety +6

      @@LjubomirLjubojevic 27 was planned as bacbone of VVS, it is a air superiority fighter. 29 was planned as first reaction fighter. But economic troubles moved 29 into a leading positions

    • @kodiak64
      @kodiak64 Před 3 lety +10

      @@LjubomirLjubojevic That's nonsense about the Su-27's turn rate.

    • @polentusmax6100
      @polentusmax6100 Před 3 lety

      Mig 29 was based on the su 27 actually, mig saw the yak competitors (yak45 and yak47) and decided to make a small variant since sukhoi were already making a bigger jet. And the su27 was heavily based on some concepts that lost the competition for the f14 and the f15 fighter, like the na-335.

  • @user-xk3vm4ur4e
    @user-xk3vm4ur4e Před 3 lety +32

    Почитал комментарии.Все ругают МИГ. А скажите мне, есть ли еврофайтер с двигателем с отклоняемым вектором тяги?

    • @juryfilatov4520
      @juryfilatov4520 Před 3 lety +5

      МИГ-29А так же его не имеет. А вообще МИГ-35 слишком дорог для легкого самолета (для России) и заползает в нишу СУ-30, где последний уделывает его по всем показателям. А вот на экспорте он себя плохо показал по одной причине, его боялись и против него применяли весь спектр доступных средств ,что есть у США и НАТО в целом.

    • @user-kv6oy8jc1b
      @user-kv6oy8jc1b Před 3 lety +6

      @@juryfilatov4520 "Сушка" уделывает "Мигаря"? Не смеши мои педали, МиГ-29ОВТ нагнёт "тридцатку, как шлюху в дешёвом барделе, а если пилот красавчик, в ласкуты нахуй разорвёт. Су - 35 ещё побадается , но он сука тяжёлый на вираже, он конечно же красавчик, но МиГ на то и Миг, что это другой класс машины. Если в обоих машинах будут русские ассы, то тут уж хуй знает чья возьмёт, там уж кто кого наебёт, я так скажу. А про "тридцатку" хорош пиздеть, Мигарь её схавает и рта не оботрёт. В рот надаёт и раком упрёт!!!

    • @Andrey_Drone
      @Andrey_Drone Před 3 lety +1

      А есть ли миг с вектором на вооружении в российской армии? Нет.

    • @domino051970
      @domino051970 Před 3 lety +4

      @@user-kv6oy8jc1b Так Су--27 и уделал Миг-29 в реальных боях в Африке. Эфиопия против Эритреи, лень проверять стороны, но вроде так. А так, ну кто сейчас будет воевать на виражах, в маневренном бою, в 2020г? Ну может быть, кто-то и прорвется, кого не завалят на дистанции 30-50 км, но много ли их будет?

    • @user-kv6oy8jc1b
      @user-kv6oy8jc1b Před 3 lety +1

      @@domino051970 Слушай, ну танки по сути тоже не для города предназначены, а что мы видим по итогу? Реальная война обязательно предусматривает собачью свалку, ближние бои будут обязательно, это просто неотъемлемая часть войны и пусть выколят мне левый глаз, если это не так?! А вот тут, если Миг-29, да в полном фарше, да с ахуенным знающим своё дело ассом в кабине, тушите нахуй свет и успевайте раскрывать парашюты, если успеете!!!

  • @racinnut77
    @racinnut77 Před 3 lety +8

    The Mig-29 is a beautiful masterpiece of aerodynamics. It was designed to fight in the merge, and in a close in knife fight it's as good as it gets.

  • @lifeisastruggle5517
    @lifeisastruggle5517 Před 3 lety

    Artem Mikojan was an aircraft designer and one of the creators of the design agency MiG.
    Anastas Mikojan was a politician with the longest career at the Soviet Union Politburo. He was involved in the negotiations on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and a member of the Soviet delegation to try to improve relations with Tito's Yugoslavia, and played a key role in the negotiations during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Some of those who visit the monastery in Sanahin Armenia also look into the nearby Museum of the Mikojan Brothers, housed in an old school run by Mikoyan's relatives.

  • @LiskaKitsune
    @LiskaKitsune Před 2 lety +1

    Is the thick white line on the cockpit actually to show the sticks centred position? I always thought it was to show where to put the stick in the event of a spin, a throwback to the MiG-15 which was a little too keen on entering uncontrolled spins. Basically jam the stick against the white line and hope for the best.

  • @raunovittaniemi4905
    @raunovittaniemi4905 Před 2 lety +1

    One of worlds finest planes...i love it ...

  • @Shadowhunterbg
    @Shadowhunterbg Před 3 lety +2

    A beautiful piece of engineering.

  • @patmsb1
    @patmsb1 Před 2 lety +1

    That’s one awesome jet fighter.

  • @GaTiger11
    @GaTiger11 Před 2 lety

    Botime Gaming brought me to this channel and I'm glad it did.
    Well done, Bis. Well done.

  • @isuruthiwanka9448
    @isuruthiwanka9448 Před 3 lety +1

    Such a marvelous machine still works well even nowadays

  • @DanijelMaodus
    @DanijelMaodus Před 3 lety +1

    Hey, great video of my favourite aviation subject but there's one tiny detail in the video for which I'm not sure is it a deliberate artistic moment or just a simple small editing mistake: at 14:52-14:55 we are looking at the underside of some other Luftwaffe aircraft, I believe it's Tornado.

  • @_me___
    @_me___ Před 3 lety +1

    if u like close looks then u should check out the flug und flab museum in dübendorf Schweiz, it even has a jumo 004
    everything from biplanes to jets

  • @Foxbat916
    @Foxbat916 Před 3 lety +2

    I waited for seemingly ages for this episode. Now it is finally here!

  • @searchtron7601
    @searchtron7601 Před 3 lety

    What a jump quality from the mig 23 to the mig 29!

  • @TheWeatherbuff
    @TheWeatherbuff Před 3 lety +2

    There are more opinions about aircraft than there are aircraft. The 29 has always been one of my favorites. Great episode! Thank you.

  • @certinho76
    @certinho76 Před 6 měsíci

    Very nice video.
    I love 4th generation and 4th generation+ and ++ fighters.
    I especially love the Sukoi Su-27 and it's many upgrades and variations.
    I hope you have some videos on that.

  • @zhanibeksarkulov5532
    @zhanibeksarkulov5532 Před 3 lety +4

    Красавец Миг 29.. Судя по переведенным кнопками и переключателем в кабине, возможно проходил испытания в воздухе у военных США

    • @ebkesq72
      @ebkesq72 Před rokem

      The video explains that the Luftwaffe updated the cockpit to ICAO and NATO standards. ICAO conformance would have mandated English-language controls per international convention.

  • @Ellesmere888
    @Ellesmere888 Před 3 lety +2

    ''I especially liked the outlines added in the cockpit explanation part.''
    Agreed !

  • @hakimnor598
    @hakimnor598 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm not a pilot,and I wonder how the pilot can handle so many system at one flight..they must be the genius one..

  • @Jmac0518
    @Jmac0518 Před 2 měsíci

    I just got home from Sun N Fun 2024 and had the privilege to see the Mig 29 up close. The Polaris Ghost Demo Team flys the only Mig 29 in the United States. It was amazing to see it fly.

  • @timearll266
    @timearll266 Před 3 lety +1

    I used to sailboat race against a German pilot who flew a Mig 29. He crashed his Mig in a training exercise and the Luftwaffe wouldn’t let him fly anymore. 😢

  • @whatintheworld6413
    @whatintheworld6413 Před 3 lety +1

    Niceeee Cover, I like how you explained. Just like profesional documentary video

  • @K-H-28
    @K-H-28 Před 3 lety +5

    Love the intake ramps on this plane. Even though my desktop background is the F-117 at the USAF museum, my eyes are drawn to the MiG-29 in the background instead