Places - Lost in Time: Bradford Exchange
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2022
- Hello, and welcome back to Places - Lost in Time, a series that looks back on the tale of places and locations that have existing within living memory or photographic record, but are now lost to the pages of history.
Something a touch more obscure, but one that has fascinated me for a long time, is the former Lancashire & Yorkshire and Great Northern Railway joint station at Bradford Exchange, once a marvel of architecture similar to other gigantic mainline stations in the UK, but now reduced to a stark and functional interchange station with road/rail connections.
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The design of the current Bradford Interchange is perfect. It sets the expectations of the passengers ready for the terrible sights just beyond the station premises.
Too expensive to maintain, so they build a new station costing millions!
Not much has changed since then, with politicians & their mates still pocketing huge profits on government contracts!
@@stevie-ray2020 the original buildings would have cost millions to maintain properly. The new building fits the city far better.
Sad reality
@@teamofsteve it says everything About the city actually
As a bradfordian myself I can say I've never been so disappointed in my home town
They should've kept the old one! The current Bradford Interchange is run-down and hideous. A grimy nightmare, and it's actually an embarrassment because it's the first thing you encounter if you arrive into the center of Bradford via train.
It’s a bit like Sunderland, a city with a similar former status, which made main line passengers arrive in a small underground station shared with the local metro trains, and for passengers to emerge above ground into a street with cheap, tatty 1960s buildings. It remains to be seen how much the current reconstruction will improve things.
Forster Square was a far more superior station before it was rationalized.
I think the station is the least embarrassing thing in Bradford 🤣
@@ballbag Bradford honestly a great city
> 10:00
It's not pronounced Keeley. .it's pronounced Keithley, spelling Keighley. My distant family was from Bradford and the decline of Bradford from one of the richest towns in the country to one of the poorest is a salutary lesson in global economics combined with poor local government. I can remember the Jacobs Well council building being constructed in the mid 1970s, and it being blown up two or three years ago. No loss, it was awful from day one.
Keighley is my home town, so you beat me to this pronunciation error 😄
The accompanying soundtrack pronounced Wortley incorrectly, too. It's Were-tli.
That's the problem with content like this. It's catnip for pedants.
Always annoys me hearing Americans mispronounce Keighley. A lot of them won't hear it that the town existed before their surname.
@@andysedgley that’s the problem people thinking they can produce content and can’t be bothered to do the simple courtesy of getting names right. What next; the year was only a few numbers out and that’s ok for millennials?
Wow. Thanks for covering this. It's my hometown so i'm always looking for old railway details. The line to Queensbury was fascinating and the junction tunnel is still visible on the line although it's bricked up.
Hi - saw your comment and you may care to look at my video which has some pictures of Bradford area
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As a Bradfordian, I've been waiting for someone to make a video on our long lost grand old terminus. Interestingly, as of right now, the entire Interchange facility is undergoing renovation so maybe the Interchange will no longer be as grim as it has been for the past few years.
(Also thank you for pronouncing Denholme correctly, however Keighley is pronounced as Keith-Lee)
Where does the "th" come from ? -- Not as bad as Slaithwaite - slough it - or Barnoldswick, bahlick !
@@russell5791 I was once on a train that passed through Slaithwaite. The guard said over the tannoy, in a homely West Riding accent "We are now arriving at Slough-it. That's the place that namby-pamby pampered southerners probably think is pronounced [exaggerated Home Counties accent] Slay-thwayt." The whole carriage erupted into fits of laughter at this bit of gratuitous southerner-bashing ;-)
I've have heard it pronounced as Slath-wit.
I wonder how long the counter-intuitive pronunciations will last for place names such as Slaithwaite, Barnoldswick, Wrotham ("root-em"), Manea ("may-nee") and all the "-ly" places in Kent (eg Ardingly) which are pronounced "-lie". Spellings get modified to match pronunciation (Bristowe -> Bristol, Wyrardisbury -> Wraysbury, Trottiscliffe -> Troseley [as an alternative to Trottiscliffe], Brighthelmstowe -> Brighton) or else the pronunciation gets modified (Cirencester used to be pronounced "Sissiter" by some older people but is now pronounced Siren-ces-ter, as spelled). Likewise for spellings of words: alarum -> alarm, shew -> show etc.
I imagine that some places have got used to having a locals' name (Slough-it) and more intuitive pronunciation (Slay-thwayt) used by everyone else. At least it's not as bad as Skelmanthorpe near Wakefield (home of Doctor Who actress Jodie Whittaker) which has the unfortunate locals' name of "Shat". (I know it's short for "Shatterers" but I can only think of it as a past participle!).
@@Mortimer50145 In my experience only the people who actually live in Barnoldswick pronounce it "bar-lick". I worked between Barnoldswick and Skipton for many years, and it was always pronounced phonetically by those that I worked with. To be fair to the place, though - never have I known a town that was closer in spirit to Royston Vasey and I say this as someone who lived there for just long enough to realise that "you'll never leave" can be taken very literally....
@Grassy Ranks And places which have the same (or very similar) name but pronounced differently: Gillingham in Kent is pronounced with a soft J and Gillingham in Dorset is prnounced with a hard G. Southall in London is pronounced south-hall, but Southwell in Nottingham is Suth'll (certainly to locals).
I wonder how surnames such as Featherstonehow and Cholmondley ("Fan-shaw" and "Chum-lee") came by their counter-intuitive pronunciations? Maybe people shortened the multi-syllable names!). Even something as simple as Home can catch people out: Alex Douglas Home (1960s PM) and Anna Home (BBC producer of children's programmes) pronounce(d) it as "hyoom" as if it were spelled Hume.
Foreign surnames can be a laugh. It's rude to laugh at a foreign name that looks like something different in English, but sometimes you just can't help it. We used to have a Tannoy at work by which the switchboard could contact someone who was not answering his phone. There was a chap whose surname was Puke, pronounced Pook-a. The woman came over the Tannoy: "Will Heinrich - er - Pyook (?) [giggle] [whispered] Is that *really* his name? [out loud, on the verge of corpsing] Will Heinrich Pyook [snigger] please contact the switchboard. [whispers] What a name! [hasty click as someone kills her mike]".
IF the Interchange improvements ever take place, I wonder if there will be adequate provision made for motorists to drop off/collect passengers? I somehow doubt it.
Very interesting to hear the full history of a really magnificent building. I caught many trains from there. I have a memory of a holiday where the platforms were crammed full of people; Back in the '50's when everyone had the same summer holiday fortnight.
Somehow my mind was caught up with your words "Back in the '50's, and the same summer holiday fortnight ".. An age of kids, rag and bone men, balloons and goldfish. Our parents had it tough in those days. Thank you for posting your memories and insights; it's curious where an honourable comment might take the human mind?.
A very interesting report. I lived in Bradford for almost five years in the mid '70s but grew up in Stockton so have always had a keen interest in trains.
I remember as a child hanging around the old Bradford Exchange station train spotting
Keighley is pronounced Keith-lee, as I live not far from there
Keeley, glad you researched the topic of your video!
Excellent video, one of your best. I was especially smitten with some of the clips showing old LNWR and Midland loco's at work.
Great synopsis of the Bradford railway
history, interspersed with superb quality early steam action. Excellent job.
Excellent video. Thank you. The destruction of Bradford Exchange was just part of the destructive approach to most of historic Bradford after the 1960s. Philistines truly had control of the city.
They still have!
The current train station was clearly an afterthought when they built the gigantic bus station as evidenced by the tiny train station footprint and non existent facilities. The train station is more appropriate for a small town than a major city. Even today 2 of the 4 platforms have no cover (no canopy, no bus shelter), there are no toilets in the train station area, there are a tiny number of ticket barriers because there is no room for more, the monitors are old and can barely be read and there is no information whatsoever about services at Forster Square even though Network Rail advertise connections between the 2 stations.
The city of Bradford accelerated its decline by replacing such a grand terminus, which reflected its status, with a minor unimposing station only befitting a small town, self-certifying itself as unimportant.
Sad when places like Skipton had nicer and bigger stations than the new Bradford Interchange. For the population.
Well, yeah, it’s only Bradford after all.
I know people will hate me saying this, if Bradford Exchange had been a through station, I personally believe had it would have survived and rivalled Leeds with Anglo Scottish through trains. I don't want to get into politics, but I will just briefly say that an opportunity has been missed to rectify the situation prior to the Broadway being built. A through underground station could have restored Bradford's fortunes.
One of many examples where grand stations have been replaced with then modern but soon hideous and uninviting structures.
Being the Market street station and Bradford Exchange at a so close distance and in line of each other you may wonder why connecting up the south and north line has never been considered, it had a lot to do with the fierce competition between the companies I think, even in the Big Four days.
"Modern but soon hideous and uninviting structures." Ah' you shouldn't have noticed (I don't think you were intended to?) But they are hideous aren't they?, but I suspect maintenance on the hideous and uninviting costs a fraction of what it did with the grand buildings? ;)
@@beachbum4691 That's true, maintenance on these old grand buildings was becoming a too great expenditure and not feasible for the stations which don't see large numbers of travellers.
But todays architects show that you can build low maintenance structures which are inviting and pleasant to look at and will be in the future.
So so sad. As a Bradfordian when I go back now it breaks my heart. Loved the old Exchange and then the Interchange even in Metro days also Forster Sq. Used to be able to get a train to Bradford by the sea (Morecambe) from F'Square. Nobody will ever put money into Bradford now its so sad
Thank you for another interesting and enjoyable railway video.
I can remember in the early 1970s being driven into Bradford from the Wakefield direction, maybe along the road which goes past Bradford Interchange, and seeing a very sorry sight: the arched roofs of Bradford Exchange in a very dilapidated state. This would have been around the time that Exchange was closing and being replaced with Interchange slightly higher up the hill.
I hadn't realised that Bradford Interchange didn't get that name until some years after the old Exchange station closed. And it was a surprise that Bradford Forster Square only got its name around the time of Grouping; before that it was referred to in adverts and railway documentation as Bradford Midland, or in early days, Bradford Market Street.
Bradford suffered badly from having two stations that were both termini, without a through route, so Leeds-Bradford-Skipton and Leeds-Bradford-Halifax-Manchester trains both had to reverse at their respective stations. If only the proposed link line had been built between Exchange and Forster Square (requiring co-operation between rival companies and some demolition of city centre buildings) Bradford's fortune would have been very different because there could have been cross-city Skipton-Bradford-Sheffield/Manchester services. The foot journey between Forster Square and Interchange nowadays requires navigating a criss-cross of streets (there's no road that takes a reasonably straight line), crossing the busy Hall Green bypass, and braving the stink of the abbatoir near Filey Street.
No direct route? Walk down Bridge Street, cross Hall zings, right into Market Street then left into, I think it’s Cheapside and a few metres along walk down the ramp behind the Midland Hotel and past the conical sculpture things. About ten minutes walk. Admittedly it’s far enough to get wet in the rain. There used to be the free city centre bus, but I think tha t’s been withdrawn and anyway it ran on a circular route in one direction only, so it was reasonably direct in one direction, but a very long route in the other.
I don’t know where the Hall Green Bypass is, but it doesn’t sound like anything I Pass when walking between the stations.
I don’t know Filey Street but it looks like you might be talking about Waddington’s rendering plant on Buck Street, close to Filey Street. This is some way to the East of Interchange, and not on an obvious walking route to Forster Square.
When returning to my hotel late at night I used to like to take a short detour to see the Telegraph and Argus press running in their building on Hall Ings; a pity they no longer have their own print works, but it was unusual for a local paper even then.
Good video. Bradford has been ruined by poor planning and lack of investment over the past 60 years. The leaders of the city have a lot to answer for. Bradford Interchange and Forster Square are nothing short of a disgrace for such a major city.
It’s city leaders spend more time on woke and tokenism politics and box ticking than actually trying to attract business and build up employment. To them it’s far more important to spend a year discussing flying a flag then creating a business friendly environment. And both business and the middle class have voted with their feet and left. Leaving a down at heel city in a spirally.
@@xr6lad Very true, I have many links with Bradford and witnessed the decline first hand. A relative of mine said basically the same thing as you 20 years ago, and things have got much worse since then.
@@paulc9588 my family goes back to the 19th century. Architects and engineers (one had a hand in designing the Town Hall). I’ve heard all my mums and grandma’s tales growing up there, and how each time she returned after moving away in 1960 a bit of her fet as if had died seeing what it has become like. From the great Busbys and Brown, Muff to now down at heal pound shops, Shipley Glen, and just the feeling of the place.
Fascinating! Thank you.
also a minor note, the keighley and worth valley railway is actually a different railway to the one you mentioned at around 4:00! the keighley and worth valley railway is still in use and goes between oxenhope and keighley, with stops at haworth, oakworth, damems and ingrow west. the railway travelling through queensbury, denholme, cullingworth etc has been disused for a while, although theres some nice footpaths along where it used to be. other than that, great video
Thanks for this video,makes me so sad that this once wondefull station was destroyed and the Forster Square station likewise,typical for Bradford who have also destroyed the heart of the city.
Every single one of your videos is a joy to watch. Thanks a lot !
A very interesting video. Some minor corrections, however: 'Wortley' is pronounced as in 'were' (t) or 'whirr'(t). (Many others have commented on 'Keighley' being pronounced 'Keithley'). Also, when the new Bradford Exchange was opened in 1973 it was only as a two-platformed station. (I was on the very first train to use it early that Sunday morning!) It was only after the old station shut and the old formation down to the station was filled in that the second island platform could be built. There is a lot of interesting footage though not all of it appears to relate directly to Bradford Exchange and local lines. Incidentally, the other station, Forster Square was originally set in a dignified and spacious square, which was filled in by an ugly 60s building development - yet another example of Bradford's appalling legacy of planning and vandalism of the best of its architectural heritage. There was a plan in the 50s (I believe) to link the two stations, which at that point were very close to each other, but priorities at the time lay elsewhere.
The first proposals for a through line between the two termini were pre WW1. The land in between was bought by the GNR but the war stopped the project. Bradford Council acquired Forster Square and kept ownership until 2007 in the hope of a revival but sold it to be developed as a shopping mall. The council was not reponsible for the rundown and dereliction of either Forster Sq or Exchange stations. Indeed Bradford Council (unlawful) subsidies kept trains running out of Forster Sq. between 1968 and 1974 (when Metro was lawfully allowed to subsidise them) and thereby saved all the lines from Skipton to Leeds. Ilkley, Guiseley from Beeching closures. Metro acquired EU funding to electrify them in the 1990s and ensured their future. Well done Bradford Council! If Leeds Council had done likewise trains would still be running to Otley and Wetherby.
It is difficult to decide which of Bradford's two stations (Interchange and Forster Square) is the more underwhelming. The entrance to FS is hidden by the office building between it and Forster Square road junction - and when I looked at a modern map I saw that the square has completely disappeared under new buildings since I last explored that bit of Bradford. I've only been there for two things: the museum of film, photography and television (which has been badly dumbed down since the days of the Tim Hunkin explanations about how TV works, and the studio set for Calendar which showed the footage of the Summit Tunnel petrol-train fire), and the industrial museum on the outskirts.
Excellent rendition and summary of the history of this station. Very professional production (once I got used to the pronunciation of "Keighley").
Some great clips there, even before my time!
Thank you very much for this insight it is very much appreciated.
Thanks Ruairidh, very interesting as usual. Btw Wortley is pronounced "Wert-ley" and Keighley is "Keeth-ley".
Detractors of British Rail conveniently forget that it inherited a worn-out under-maintained system after WW2. The demolition spree you rightly mention included many smaller stations too, and Network Rail seem to be continuing that with their pathological hatred of anything not "modern".
I've travelled to BDI many times. It's an ok station, but I'd much have preferred to travel into the old Exchange station. Interchange isn't served by TPE, just Northern and GC.
Manchester Central was run down almost in parallel with Bradford Exchange - these really were becoming dumps at the end of the 60s.
As usual, a good video.
The tale of Blackpool Central would be an interesting comparison - a 13 platform terminus removed at the behest of the local council, who thought it knew better.
Wait, Blackpool had a 3 station? What the tale there, was it a connecting station between the 2 current ones or just a 3 separate station?
@@sterlinghartley2165 The coast line went through Blackpool South (4 platforms) and continued up to Blackpool Central. Blackpool North was, as it is, now. Beeching recommended closure of North, but Blackpool Corporation wanted the big one, Central, closed as the site was more valuable. It became a grotty car park.
South degenerated from a 4 track terminus to the single line it is now.
A typical tale of the 60s. South had the major coast stations en route, Lytham, St Anne's, leaving them served now by this single track shunt.
@@1951GL a car park? For real? What a shirty decision
Nottingham Victoria, and the old Birmingham Snow Hill too.
But Manchester Central train shed is still with us. It was in use as an exhibition hall in the 90s, (I attended a classic car show there once), but is now part of a convention centre.
There used to be 2 bus stations that I remember, 1 was for local buses and red buses used to run from Chester street
correct i saw Samuel ledgard ,Yorkshire woollen district Ribble and AFAIK West yorkshire red buses circa 1963 -5
Sad day when they demolished the station and replaced it with that horrid 'half station'. Was yet another nail in Bradfords back.
Thankfully I was born in 1961 and, as a kid, got to see how grand the Exchange and other iconic Bradford buildings were. A family holiday to the coast from the Exchange, Taking the train to Shipley from Forster Square which was on the other side of town. I remember several proposals to link the two stations to make a through line. This old have been a major challenge as 1. They had the city centre between them and 2. They were at different levels. Needless to say it never happened.
In the late 70's, the line to Halifax and Sowerby Bridge was planned to be singled. This was the only rail route from Todmorden to Leeds at the time and with the 15 minute stand at Bradford on through services from the Calder valley to Leeds. It did look like a policy to put people off using the train. On the Market Street side Skipton and Ilkley services were planned to be reduced to a 2 hourly service. What did happen, was the Ilkley service was split into two trains, having to change services at Guiseley to continue your journey.
The bus / train interchange was costing the local authority £2 million a year, just to run and maintain in the late 80 's / early 90's, The bus stands were under used, because of poor design with the bus stands too close together. So buses could only use alternate stands, missing a stand out. This was because a bus needs room to pull in straight and space to pull out. The local authority was also concerned with passengers walked from island platform to another island platform, in front of moving buses, so the desire to have all passengers on one larger island platform was safer. Then when the bus company pulled out of the underground depot, underneath the bus station, that was it!!. Sell off part and Demolish the rest.!!
Great informative video. As a regular train user between Halifax and Leeds Bradford Interchange always seemsto be an odd place. Such a shame that the old building was torn down, but then the same applies to Halifax Station to some degree when you look back at old phots of it.
Absolutely fascinating, thank you for yet another super "post". Much appreciated.
Very interesting. I used to travel to Bradford by train regularly for work and, not having known its history, I thought that the Interchange Station worked well if totally utilitarian. I stayed at the Midland Hotel which still had a ramp which led to the old station next to it. I loved the hotel's grandeur and imagined wool barons making deals in its foyer in years gone by. A similar video about Southport station would be interesting. The grand Victorian structure was replaced by an awful building in the 1960s and no attempt has been made to improve it since.
I travelled to Bradford not too long ago and and parts of the city centre have been modernised since I last visted in early 2000's. Bradford Exchange (Interchange) sadly hasn't changed in 20 years and is still pretty grim inside. It's a shame that such a grand building got turned into a building desprate for redevelopment.
Interesting stuff. Just as an aside Market Street station was also known as Midland Station (now Forster Square) and the Adolphus Street station was also known as Great Northern Goods station (at least they were in 1908 according to my map.)
Was it Bradford’s 3rd railway station back in those days. I do remember when Norwich used to have 3 railway stations as I grew up near Norwich. Norwich City, Norwich Victoria and Norwich Thorpe which is now just called Norwich and the station building still exists in Norwich.
Brilliant video. I suppose we should be grateful a station is still there. Nottingham Victoria just became a multi story car park for example 🙄
Bradford station is magnificent
Next, St Enoch station please. That was a station (and hotel) that should never have been demolished but turned into a shopping centre and offices, homes and a small hotel but they tore it down, and built a glass palace mall.
One of the interesting things about St Enoch was, it had a loco depot in the triangle formed by the tracks.
Then you cover Buchanan Street , and Princes Street (Edinburgh) stations too!
Glasgow is quite an interesting city when it comes to the railway system. There's always constant talk of re-opening the City of Glasgow Union Railway to regular passenger traffic.
Amazing.
I think you’re wrong with the year naming of the interchange. I’ve known it as Bradford interchange since the early 1970s and I drove buses in and out of the Bradford Interchange in 1980/81.
Yea I’m sure I’m the same. I remember getting a book on Bradford sent by an Aunt the year it opened. A big glossy thing with pictures of new developments and prospects of Bradford and it covered the new station. And I was positive it was called Bradford Interchange from the start as it incorporated the buses and trains.
I'm not from Bradford but have been a few times and I think that I prefer Forster Square to Interchange.If I recall it's about a 10 minutes walk between the two.
Thank you.
This is rather tragic, although what happened to the stations in Blackpool is arguably even worse.
Especially Blackpool Central
@@Trek001 the whole area really. It is insane how much it was gutted
....what about Nottingham Victoria, and the original Birmingham Snow Hill station - neither of which should ever have been closed and demolished.
They even admitted they made a terrible mistake in demolishing Birmingham Snow Hill - ten years after its demolition, they built a new Snow Hill and plonked a multi storey car park on top of it.
It's hideous, compared with the grandeur of the old Snow Hill - which was light and spacious, not dark and cramped. Such a shame. It's just state sponsored vandalism.
We really trashed our Victorian railway legacy during the 60's and 70's. All these great but long gone stations made their cities, and were great adverts for them.
@@robtyman4281 I don't like what they did with Birmingham New Street either.
@@robtyman4281 Blackpool central was the biggest station outside of London from what I remember reading somewhere. If you look at Blackpool you'll see near the stadium a lot of flat land just to the west. Almost all of that north and south used to be the train station.
My home anyway form home Bradford has always been my favourite city in West Yorkshire things like this how great it was and how it can be greater for the future
Had this been built in America, with two companies using it, the name might have been,
"Bradford Union Station".
There's a brief clip at the start, among several of LNWR locos, at Barrow in Furness. Love to know where that clip came from.
So, more than a hundred years ago they could expand 4 tracks to 10 and add a beautiful Victorian train shed for 770,000 pounds in today's money, and then in the 60s they can build a 4 track no frills terminus station for 7 MILLION pounds (which is probably more than 30 million pounds today). No wonder BR never made much money.
A lovely selection of motive power seen here - but most of the locomotives from the earlier years are LNWR designs. Were these a feature of the L&Y/GNR system around Bradford?
Tragic but well done.
Amazing video a remember the, Bradford station when very young,my father Michael mullaney ,was a fireman on the coal trains ,based there,then later years was driver on the deisal trains
There's a joke, that features Bradford Exchange, which highlights how Bradford has "changed" over the past 60 years.
At least Bradford you still have a couple of platforms and a shelter. Our second and grandest station in Nottingham disappeared by 1970 to be replaced by a now outdated shopping centre. Nottingham City was surrounded by mineral railways which with the demise of the Nottinghamshire coalfield could have made an excellent suburban railway network with little disruption compared to the expensive new build tram routes the city now has. The Victoria Station that was destroyed also stood on a direct route between London, Sheffield and Manchester. Now that would be handy when only the wealthy can afford electric cars.
Cool.
Bradford is lost in time !
Trackidge - nice
Excellent as always. Keighley is pronounced "Keith-ley".
Interesting! I thought Bradford Exchange was only the name of an American company that makes special collectables and novelty items, including model train sets for Christmas villages. So I'm wondering if that's where they got the name from or not.
Probably! Think they changed the company's name from Franklin Mint because they'd acquired such a bad reputation for selling over-priced tacky junk over the years, .....but they still sell the same sort of crap!
Had to Google them, but, I see what you mean about overpriced tat.
Damn nice one mate.
Have you considered doing a video on Nottingham Victoria?
another with hindsight great loss
Does anyobody know where i can find and watch geoffrey whitwam's railway films? Because i cant find them? If anyone knows can you put a link on the response? Thanks.
G.N.R TRAINS PAST TO AND FROM DEWSBURY CENTRAL STATION WHICH IS NOW THE RINGROAD SERVING BATLEY,BATLEY CARR DEWSBURY CENTRAL,EARLHEATON CHICKENLY OSSET AND WAKEFIELD FROM BRADFORD INTRESTING VIDEO GREAT!!
No TransPennine services serve Bradford, although they are "trans-pennine" they are not under the TransPennine banner, they are marketed locally as the Calder Valley line.
I liked the old Exchange Station, even when it had become run down and grimy it still felt friendly, while the new one is just a terrible example of cost cutting. It being easier to maintain has turned into "hardly maintained at all" so it's a horrible experience.
And Keighley is pronounced "Keithley" not "Keely". You're welcome. 😃
A lot of people prefer Terminus to Terminal Station, which sounds a little fatal, or to me a place to which you connect an wire in an electrical circuit. Though I admit you got it right later on in the video, though went back to terminal stations rather than Termini at the end.
I know others have commented, but Keeley really grated, try saying Keefley
I don’t think I’ve seen more hideous buildings anywhere in the world than basically any civic / commercial building built in the United Kingdom in the 60’s , 70’s
Euston Station is one of the better buildings from the ‘60#. If you want something really hideous try Heysham No. 1 power station.
The Lake County, Indiana (USA) Government Complex at 2293 N. Main St., Crown Point, Indiana. Built in 1975-76. Look for pictures.
No, it isn't rusting cos it's shamefully neglected. It's a type of steel that oxidizes, then the rust forms a protective coating that effectively seals itself. At least, that's what the foreman on the jobsite told me when my grandfather and I went there to take pictures in 1975, and I noticed the brand-new stacks of I-beams were completely rusty. Later, I asked my ironworker dad about them, and he confirmed it.
The complex was across the street from my grandparents' house, so we took hundreds of pictures. I made a point of shooting it through the living room window, as well.
Sort of like how we lost Union station in NYC in the USA.
Can you please do a video about Leeds stations?
I was born just too late to remember Leeds Central, when the trains from London via Wakefield terminated there. I can remember my grandpa taking me to Leeds City for a ride to Wakefiald and back, when I was about 4. I wonder if that was when the Wakefield trains had just been diverted into City, just after Central had closed.
Bradford Interchange. Where every train has to reverse to/from Leeds. Not exactly an efficient way to move trains speedily.
Bradford Exchange has been resurrected many times in model form, much like the original.
topstuff
People always get the equivalent sums incorrect when calculating cost between then and now, gold should always be used as the equivalent value not inflation figures, in 1888 a sovereign still had a value of £1 which was it's face value, in 2022 that value averaged £350 so £8000 in 1888 is equivalent to approximately £2.8m today.
the word Depressing describes Bradford
It's Keefly.
Interesting video - though it's clear you're not used to pronouncing Yorkshire place names ;)
Perfectly understandable even with some interesting pronunciations though :)
8:05 - Vickers Vanguard?
Interesting, but shouldn't the title be 'Places Lost *to* Time'? Lost *in* Time had me expecting an historic station almost frozen in aspic, so to speak.
It's easy to say the British Rail's archaic steam hauled trains were swept away by the efficient and flexible motor transport that out-competed it - but this is as the government that is rapidly building the motorways which of course do not make any money for government either, is simultaneously starving British Railways of cash for maintenance or modernisation. If about 25% of the motorway building extravaganza money instead went to railways, we would have much more of the network we are now trying to rebuild and build anew, at 1960s prices instead of 2020s prices.
This is a direct consequence of a political attitude about transportation - that public transportation is for the plebians, whereas individual motor transport is for the posh. Add to this the plum contracts being awarded to private companies (owners related to the transport minister in office) to build motorways, and the antipathy towards union workers in British Rail, and you have a perfect storm that even excellent management could hardly ward off, and BR's management were far from excellent at the time.
It would be interesting to know how many billions of pounds worth of infrastructure were destroyed at a stroke of a pen by the 1960s Marples (Beeching) cuts.
It's part of the globalist plan to destroy the world. Look at the USA. The rail mileage is literally half of its 1916 peak, most of it scrapped in the last 40 years alone, after deregulation in October 1980. But in those 40 years, the population has increased 50%.
Think of the WWII traffic explosion, and imagine that traffic being effectively moved on highways. Not even the 1944 version, but the 2022 version. All the freight, troops, etc., in trucks and buses.
You wanted chocolate. You got it.
Dr Julian Keeley would have approved.
Please note - Keighley is pronounced Keethley.
Really interesting vid. I was born and bred in Bradford, though I eventually escaped lol. Wouldn't be seen dead there now, but if I had to go, I'd love to arrive at the Bradford Exchange :)
Being from Bradford i loved the video, but Keighley is pronounced Keith- ly
Note for Ruairidh: It's pronounced "Keith-lee", not "Kear-lee."
What a shame that function prevailed over form in this case.
I think there needs to be a balance, of course, but there's no need to go for pure function.
FYI, Keighley is pronounced keithley
Fascinating however still doesn't answer my puzzlement about why the two stations are situated so far apart, just politics? Rivalry? But they serve different areas?😄
Owned and operated originally by two different companies. So was no need to interlink as far as they thought.
Kee-Lee :-(
Keighley is said Keith-lee not key-lee
730.000 in 2022 maybe would be enough expand a single house.
I wouldn't say that Bradford Interchange (originally it retained the name was Bradford Exchange) is isolated as it is only a quarter of a mile from the old Exhange station and is close to the city centre.
Keighley is pronounced Keithley.
The railways were losing traffic from since 1921. A certain Winston Churchill, whilst President of the Board of Trade in 1909, said the railways will not survive unless they amalgamate and get rid of the duplicated routes. He was right on this.
You failed to mention the plans to connect the 2 main stations in Bradford will a tunnel.
But other than that??
Yes, I thought that too… the pronunciation of Keighley
My biggest issue with the channel is pronouncing places wrong, especially when they well known mistakes (like Americans are made fun of for saying it that way, sort of mistakes.)
@@ballbag I heard other channels getting it wrong. I blame the way English place names have developed over the years. Towcester, Worcester and Wisbech are amongst the commonest people get wrong, even Brits get them wrong.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 And for every bizarre pronunciatio that you master, there is always an exception: Cirencester is the only (I think) -cester name which is pronounced, at least nowadays, as it is spelled - Siren-cess-ter. My brother-in-law is from there and he said only s few very old people still use the Siss-i-ter pronunciation, and they tend to be ridiculaed as being archaic.
Been through and reversed there many times