Not Even CLOSE: Kevin Durant's PATHETIC GOAT Case
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- čas přidán 25. 01. 2024
- KD recently asked the question, "why not" include him in GOAT conversations. "What hasn't [he] done?" So let's ask and answer the question as to why KD doesn't belong anywhere near any legitimate GOAT discussions.
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Giannas at this point has a better case for being one of GOATs than Durant and he's still 29.
Couldn't possibly agree more. Giannis' single ring is worth all 6 of LeBron and KD's titles.
Jokic and Giannis are already greater than KD. His 2 rings don't hold any value he cant win without Steph and Klay
Kevin Durant bag is better than both of those guys I think he’s more of a skilled player than Giannis but Giannis is a big man compared to Kevin Durant. It’s like comparing Shaquille O’Neal to Hakeem had way more skill. Giannis is so much bigger pause. His weakness is the same weakness LeBron James he doesn’t have heart he doesn’t have a killer instinct.
@@skap_attackyou mean the guy who choked against the 8 seed heat last year and got owned by kawhi and the raptors, listen I get why folks don’t like kd but giannis is no where near the offensive juggernaut kd is, even Lebron in his prime had a better jump shot than Giannis, look What Kawhi and the raptors did to him
I agree, same for Jokic !
Not to mention Durant joined a team that had just won a Championship, won 2 more Championships with them, left when Steph and Klay got injured. When they both healed, they won another Championship without Durant while Durant never came close to winning another one with any of his super teams ever since.
Hello joined a team that lost the championship
Well lebron did the same thing not any less pathetic
The warriors blow a 3-1 lead in finals then Durant came tell the truth
@@catalogueboys2538 The Heat were barely playoff contenders when LeBron got there, and he didn’t join the team that beat him.
@@og_mante5138the heat also added Bosh, not just LeBron. That means LeBron alone wasn't the difference in that franchises fate.
And why does it matter if he joined a team that beat him or not? LeBron joined an MVP (and FMVP), so did Durant. What they did was about equal. You can argue the Heat didn't win as many titles as we would have expected and even while healthy, lost a title they should have won, but in the end, LeBron would have 0 case in the GOAT debate if he doesn't go to Miami and win those two superteam rings. He'd have 2 rings without those and then he'd be equal with KD and two beneath Steph. And if we took away KD's superteam rings, he'd still be 2 below LeBron and at 2 beneath Steph. It's interesting to think about but ultimately, if we discount superteam rings, then Steph would have a better case for GOAT than either KD or Bron. But you can't discount KD's rings yet include Brons. You have to be consistent.
Lol KD was never clowned about wanting to be in the goat conversation because he never talked about it, we thought he knew, but now it is open season 😂
This is getting rampant. Frauds wanting to be in the GOAT convo. Next week Carmelo Anthony gonna hit us with, "why not me" shit...smh.
@@skap_attack Ughh then there's Karl "I changed the game" Towns .. gonna hinder Ant's growth, an actual competitor
That is such an insane statement for a current player to make. I feel like someone else has to recognize your greatness, and make a statement like that for you first. Even Steph doesn’t go around saying stuff on me that
Remember KD is cannabis enthusiast maybe he was high
Worst era in NBA History
I can't believe this became a real discussion. I thought we all agreed that he's one of the best to ever play, but his Warriors rings carry no weight, and he's tried to make super teams after he left to make it easier
Ran out of content
KD is basically less heavy breathing version of Kendrick Perkins. Just says dumb shit to get attention and sadly it works.
But wouldn’t that be the same thing for LeBron he created super teams to make it easier for him but I guarantee a Bron fan would say that’s not the same
@@shonrobinson1742 Lebron never joined a 73-9 team. He joined the Unknown
The difference is KD had the team he needed to win the title in no shape way or form Lebron could have carried that previous cavs team to a chip it would have been impressive to say the least . Lebron played with zero Allstar for more than half his early journey with the cavs do you even remember players like Mo Williams ? Illgaskias ? Shit Devante west a whole hobo now . With the weight of being the goat I feel like he had a ton of pressure on him since highschool to win a chip all from failures as he was getting beat by super teams like the Celtics !
Kd was in the WCF with Allstar Russ and 6man harden with runner of DPOY serge ibaka they had the talent on top of that he left to the team that he lost a 3-1 lead too and the warriors won without him as well
Lebrons case is Dwayne has not made a deep playoff run in years on the heat but he was still putting up scoring titles bosh was an Allstar than lebron mvp but no where did lebron lose to the team and joined them right after , in fact bron wanted to play with his draft class reasons why he ran with wade , and later on Mello kd just wanted a ring and the team conflict was apparent
As soon as I heard this narrative spreading I was like Skap gonna love this one
Couldn't help myself lol. I got a little derailed, as this one was supposed to come out yesterday, but had to hit on Fraud Rivers hiring by the Bucks...
@@skap_attackyou really showed him more love than I expected.. Good job! He's a hooper period
@@skap_attackFraud Rivers 😂😂😂 you need a podcast or something lol you are witty
Who's Skap? Skip?
Kobe scored 81 points against the raptors and scored 60 point in his last nba game when Shaq told him to score those points and he delivered the job
Shaq: "I want you to give me 50"
Kobe: "Nah"
Proceed to give him 60. 😂
you can talk about steph's legacy without kd. you can't talk about kd's legacy without steph.
I see your point, but if we’re talking about Steph’s legacy without KD, we’re only talking about two titles, not four.
@@catharticwicksand with your same logic KD would have 0 rings to Steph 2
@@tsunamio422 So maybe this matter isn’t so black and white as so many make it out to be. Steph and KD were both instrumental in their titles together. Those who undermine KD’s titles do so because they’re bitter about KD’s departure from OKC.
That's a lie the Two chips Curry got without KD mean more than the ones with
Kd has a legacy without Steph but that legacy probably won’t include a ring if not for steph. Scoring champ, mvp but no ring or FMVP
The sad part? I liked Kevin Durant. I WANTED him to be the next all-time great. After his 2014 MVP speech? Who didn't? He's also a much better and more skilled player than LeBron. But he took the easy way out.
I COMPLETELY agree with you! He was the guy I had hand picked as Kobe was on his way out to be my next dude. And I HATED Bron at the time AND Curry. Durant SHOULD have beaten the 73 win Warriors, THEN SMOKED Bron in the finals. But quite frankly he CHOKED. Home closeout game, up 8 end of 3 and he scored 5 points on 1-7 in that fourth. With that said, shit happens in life and sports sometimes. Get up, come back stronger and make up for it. I don't think the way I think about Kobe Bryant because he ALWAYS won, and NEVER failed. He had some BAD moments throughout his career. BUT he NEVER stopped doing things the RIGHT way. Durant is an absolute coward and a little punk. Just like LeFraud. It's why NEITHER of them belong in the convo with the REAL legends...
Skap, if the past decade was any indication, the Thunder almost certainly would've folded against Bron and the Cavs, especially if the latter had home court advantage.
Cleveland was simply the new Miami, and without injuries to Kyrie and K Love I just don't see KD and the gang bringing it home.
They almost never beat LeBron, or any of their opps, when it mattered most.
Funny enough when you published this video I was watching Dylandoesbasketball's video on KD's cursed career as a result of "making a deal with the bball devil" which the negative outcomes after the Dubs rings are the payback for such a "nefarious" act.
The reason I bring it up, besides the coincidence, was that I saw LeBron was 17-4 including playoffs against KD in his OKC days iirc (could def be wrong).
@@skap_attackwell lebron was close to mj than durant have been
“Kd is a much better and more skilled player”. KD is more skilled as a scorer, but calling him a better player is lazy.
@@skap_attacklmfao so kobe requesting a trade on a sports talkshow is doing things the “right way” Getting gary payton & karl malone and losing to the pistons in the finals wasn’t a “failure” The steve nash dwight howard experiment wasn’t either. Let’s put aside the fact that kobe also raped someone. 1 MVP, 2 finals MVPs, and in the most important game of his career, game 7 2010 finals against the celtics, this man shoots 6/24 🤣 Kobe isn’t in the GOAT debate either buddy. Back end of the top 10. Only an insanely biased fan boy like you would see otherwise
I'd just like to take a moment to be thankful it took less than 24 hours for Darko's press conference to become the go-to meme of NBA coaching.
DARKO is an ABSOLUTE LEGEND for that GEM. I also LOVE the Chris Finch "disgraceful display of defense and immature basketball" drop. Coaches these days are really showing me something and helping freshen up my drop library 🤣
@@skap_attack”It’s a complete crap!” 😂
@@thefirsttrillionaire2925 😂😂😂😂 legendary tirade
OVERUSED meme by edge lord kids!!
"OMG, a coach swore"?!?!
Now DESPERATE to put it in EVERY video?!?!?
@@skap_attack...and he hasn't been spoken about since.
And here I was thinking he was meant to be coaching, not creating memes...
KD - “What haven’t I done?”
Everyone - “Well you’re the one who’s never happy nor content so you tell me.”
The way you always manage to include Lebron slander in these videos is insane 😂😂
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It’s not slander.
You mean the truth? Then, yes.
can’t get bron meat out his mouth what a shame
Lebron has caused this era of sports.
Which is the worst ever.
Not here to defend Lebron at all, but there’s definitely a difference between what he and Durant did. Lebron went to a great team, Durant went to possibly the best team of all time (at least in terms of wins). The Warriors could’ve had Durant riding the bench the entire year and still won a ring. You could argue he was still the best player on the team, but they won a championship before he got there and the won another after he left. Durant was irrelevant to his team’s success. Giannis’s or Jokic’s one ring (so far) is worth twice both of Durant’s put together.
He doesn’t want to hear comments like this. This man heard KD say he’s the goat and decided to try his hardest to attack Lebron for it. It’s crazy
And Miami wasn’t even a “great” team in 2010. They won in 06, but that roster was depleted of those guys by the time LeBron left Cleveland. Also, how the hell was 2015 Cavs a super team? 😂 Come on man, you just reaching to fling hate at LeBron for making every team he joined a contender. Kyrie and K Love never sniffed a playoff appearance without LBJ.
This guy's so full of it. Just stop with the nonsense.
Yeah a 40 win Heat team that got swept in the first round, definitely world beaters.
And we shouldn't forget Dirk's ring as well.
Sometimes I underestimate what MJ did to set himself apart. 10 scoring titles. The next is Wilt at 7. Then some others at 4. Wow To lead the league 10 times, you need to be able to score buckets even as you age out of your prime. That's amazing. But what is truly special is even though MJ is considered the greatest individual player in league's history, he also led a team to dominate the league with two 3-peats. He led a team to a then record 72 wins and another to 69 and another to 62 when his best teammate missed more than half of the season. So MJ was not only individually dominant but he catapulted his teams to levels few other teams have reached.
I agree. MJ showed individual dominance (on offense and defense) on par or better than anyone ever and showed team success on par or better than anyone else. That combo is what makes him the best ever.
Bro there wasnt a single scorer in MJ era who is even close to what the league have now
There was. His name was Michael Jordan.
@dwightsullano2946 The only way we'd know is if they took away the big man out of the lane, eliminated physical play and de-emphasized defense in MJ's era. Then we could do a proper comparison. Today, slow white boys can score 73 points, soft losers can score 62, and a 20 year fading star can still put up all-star numbers without even trying.
Lol. Karl Malone, Hakeem, Shaq, David Robinson, Clyde Draxler. Learn basketball 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Pathetic is the correct adjective. There is no other way to describe that
Like what is wrong with these players these days?! I honestly blame Lebron completely. Jumping from superteam to superteam and declaring himself the GOAT. Just makes all these other guys think its ok...
@@skap_attack to be honest, KD has often been delusional.
He once hoped that he'd get the same level of adoration from the Warriors faithful as Steph _while on the Warriors._
He thought winning that _1st_ - not multiple but 1st - ring would make the fandom think he's better than LeBron.
He'd hoped to earn the fandom respect by winning a ring outside the Bay, but then built not 1 but *2* additional superteams.
This is more of the same, and really par for the course.
@@skap_attackthey are all so self congratulatory. It’s pathetic
@@skap_attackSkap, you’re a fan of old basketball and you should know that super teams have existed since the Wilt Chamberlain Lakers. You guys just love to hate LBJ n it’s weird asf 😂😭
The first superteam was created before LeBron was even born@@skap_attack
The one and only Skap exposing Kevin Durfraud. Excellent
My guy! I appreciate you 🙏❤
Nah KD one of tha greats 🤣🤣🤣 LeBron is ass. Fuck them rings
Kevin (Do)rant lmao
luka is 24 and already set to be greater than kevin the fraud durant
He seems to not understand only because you're a really good shooter doesnt mean you're in the GOAT debate.
KD is more than a good shooter relax
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The NBA has become watered down, and the focus on scoring has led to a lack of emphasis on fundamentals and defense. It's common to see high-scoring games with little regard for solid defense. To truly excel in basketball, it's essential to have a strong fundamental understanding of the game. While players like Kevin Durant may have impressive scoring records, they don't necessarily elevate their teams or bring the necessary energy to the court. Injuries may play a role, but at the end of the day, it's difficult to justify placing players like Durant in the top ten. This is a reason for the ignorance on social media and LeMedia
Durant is BARELY even in the TOP TWENTY! I think Giannis and Jokic have ALREADY surpassed him and neither are 30 yet. Because they won REAL rings. One real ring will ALWAYS be better than any amount of superteam rings.
@@skap_attack Precisely, what is interesting is how many people know what stats make an excellent star. I wonder if they know the metrics for greatness. Do they understand why Jordan is the GOAT?
Why haven't you spoken upon Giannis getting crapped on by an 8th seed yet?@@skap_attack
Player empowerment pushed less and less contact. It turned ugly. They're running around.
So the late 90s with multiple expansion teams was the height of NBA competitiveness I presume...🙄
The fact that Kevin Durant would publicly question why he shouldn’t be in the goat conversation, when he literally decided to go to a franchise that just beat him when his team was up 3 games to 1, and he couldn’t get them one more victory, that proved they could win a title before he got there and then after he left, just speaks to how delusional and un-self aware these guys can be. If Kevin Durant never went to Golden State, he would most likely be the George Gervin of this generation.
If he would have stayed with okc and won two rings I would take him more seriously. Right now I just can't
Choking a 3-1 lead to the 2016 Warriors, then joining them, as the number 2 player in the league at the time- is the weakest move in NBA history bar-none. A 73-9 Finals roster that went to the two previous finals and had won one. KD is a snake, no spine.
Steph was the 2nd best player in 2016. Not durchoke.
We (KIND of) agree on this one!!! IN a vacuum, what Durant did was worse than any of Bron's superteams. BUT, Durant WOULD HAVE NEVER had the sack to pull that move off IF Bron hadn't done it twice already LOL. Bron made it OK for Durant to go and rip two rings off him. The irony is INCREDIBLE!
@@skap_attack I agree, Miami for Lebron was bad. KD just took it to an entire differently disgusting level with zero shame. But your premise that KD felt like he could do that because of Lebron's move to Miami, I agree with that premise.
@@Jaymack12 He wasn't. Steph's unanimous MVP is one of the biggest jokes there are in league history. Lebron had every vote but one guy who wanted to vote for Carmelo because he hated Lebron, so Steph is the first ever unanimous MVP- laughable. He choked spectacularly in those 2016 Finals. Then KD won the Finals MVPs in 2017 & 2018.
Steph plays one side of the court. He will never be on Mt Rushmore.
@@phillyphan1346 LeBumboys just salty that KD played the team-up game better than LeBum did. LeBum just keep losing!
I can’t help but laugh how you twisted it at the end to throw shade against Lebron. I gotta admit that’s a good one. 😂
cracked me bc it was a good one and bc it's facts😂
He's grifting everyone but surrounding his channel against someone he supposedly hates.
@@Shockkings0714 That's called passion of belief.
@@liamdamsterbron never joined a 73-9 team he choked to in the playoffs
who cares 'The Decision' is the most pathetic thing in NBA history and it started the player empowerment saga. @@danielbattle7620
This guy speaks facts!
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@@skap_attack Love your channel and i am honored you commented my comments
The MJ laugh never gets old 😂😂
The “complete crap” has me dead everytime 🤣
“Highest level of basketball all time” the fact you have a 39 year old and a 36 year old dropping 25 and 30 a night in good splits tells me otherwise
EXACTLY!!!!!! In what world do we see MULTIPLE players: Durant, Curry and Bron GETTING "better" into their mid or late 30s with the immense amount of wear and tear they have all accrued?? Answer: they're not. The league is watering down and getting INCREASINGLY easier. In 2012 before Kobe ruptured his achilles with about 4 games left in the season, he was posting near career numbers. He outscored LeBron that season in total points AND per game average in his SEVENTEENTH YEAR! LeBron won the MVP that season at 28 years old. It was ALREADY starting in 2012. Now all these CHUMPS have gotten FAT in this GARBAGE era and think they are more than what they are. Ridiculous.
what that players have better longevity then they did in the past? also that 39 is LeBron James you know..... a top 2 player of all time let's not act like average 39 yr olds are doing that lol
@@JakeJamal the nba started GREATLY depreciating in 2012. It’s gotten easier and easier every year since until we’re smack dab in a time where Luka Doncic is dropping 34, 9 and 8 😂 😂 currently. This era is a joke. And Lebron is not top 2 😂
@@skap_attack he easily is top 2 also it's funny u pick the exact year of 2012 it's almost as if something happened that u didn't really like could it be bron winning his first ring 🤔 🤔 🤔
@@skap_attack also ur ignoring the freedom of movement rules which I will credit u makes it easier to score but overall team offence and ball movement and spacing from better shooters adds a-lot more threats offensively to the game so teams can't really lock in to just guarding luka
Kevin Durant was more like Tracy McGrady (without the injuries). Michael Jordan? Is he nuts?
I’d say KD is Adrian Dantley with rings. And I don’t think that’s an insult. AD was a prolific scorer.
What about MJ? I didn't hear him bring him up. Did he really?
-- dang....We never got to see Tmac's prime. He was done by age 27-28. Kobe even says Tmac was as good as he, but taller.
But alas, Tmac is only in the Top 75. KD? Top 20 so yeah, he's no GOAT.
@@jlui21 in talent yes, but they didn't add Tmac to the actual top 75 list iirc.
Playstyle I agree
Man, I love when Skap Attack gets these narratives, and destroys them all. Keep giving us these gems!!!
That Ray liotta laughing clip always has me crying🤣🤣
Lol I personally like the coach "it's completely crap!"
Such an amazing drop. Certain ones, I just crack myself up when I put them in LOL
i love when skap inserts the russ westbrook whaaaat clip. that shyt always has me dyin when i see it in videos.
I'm rolling with the Wolf of Wall Street Leo, 🤣 @@skap_attack
Love this channel. These are always the exact type of thoughts I have when it comes to the NBA today. After watching the NBA all through the kobe era and watching it now , it's hilarious that people even mention LBJ and kd with actual goats. Let's stop this bs people
I been watching since magic the nba has devolved into the worst basketball ever played disgusting.
I don’t even understand how LeBron made the All Star team this year, he isn’t even the best player on his team. They just gave it to him so he could have another record that still doesn’t make him better than MJ.
@@alter6243 20 tho, smh he really thinks stats choose who the goats are.
what?! lebron is an all star dumbass @@alter6243
I went from being a hardcore nba fan to casual and I didn’t even know Durant had 2 rings. I know Giannis has one and Kawhi as well, the impact of the wins is what tells the story
Kawhi has 2, man.
KD is same as LeBron. Not in the goat conversation
You couldn't wait to mention lebron in a video he isn't involved in😂😂😂
Two peas in a pod!
@@StevenTorres.NYC-CA statement is still true
@@Sf75178 lebron is so much further ahead of KD . It's okay to not like him
@StevenTorres.NYC-CA didn't say they were same spot in ranking just both not in goat conversation
Calling the 2016 Cavs (even when fully healthy) a "superteam" is just BLASPHEMY bro 😭
Prime Kyrie and prime Kevin love is a super team bruh 😄
@@_Paul_N nah bro a too young irresponsible Kyrie, and a not so efficient Kevin love were nothing compared to Chris Bosch and D Wade, or Pippen and Rodman, or KD Steph Klay Draymond (all in their prime) +a veteran Igudola, a super team is a team of top notch athletes mostly in their prime, and with efficiency ratings that are through the roof, please go watch the regular seasons of Cleveland's big 3 and you'll always see a LeBron coaching on the floor, that's the only way they won games, and even zin the playoffs we had only Irving that was really stable within his role, Kevin Love was having off nights like it's nothing, so yeah no super team bruh
A lot of people do not understand the high level of contempt for LeBron. This is a perfect example why. Sure, KD is being naive for asking that question, but as the video pointed out, can you blame his logic? As soon as the "face of the league" makes it ok to buddy up and chase stats and rings, others will follow suit. This is one of many reasons why the NBA sucks right now. It doesn't have the heart that previous eras have had. Could you imagine how different KD's legacy would be if instead of joining the Warriors, he return the following season and beat them and eventually LeBron for a championship? That is the type of thing that gets you into the GOAT conversation. Doing what he did would have been unheard of in previous eras, but it flies now.
except lebron doesn't actually stat pad or chase stats. and bron himself didn't rlly have that easy cop out considering bosh injury in 2012
@@aadilakha7310 WOW, iIve NEVER seen a bigger stat padder than Lebron, this is STRAIGHT UP DELUSIONAL KID
@@aadilakha7310 Oh, without Bosh we only got 2 top players on the league on 1 team... must have been hard.. OMG man, take off the cum colored glasses.
LeBron had to overcome adversity to win his rings , 2011 he's totally humiliated in the Finals and did he fold and never win ? No he came back and won league MVP , then loses Bosh in game 1 round 2 , over came a 2-1 deficit in that series , then facing far more humiliation in game 6 ECF he has the best game of his career , Beats OKC in 5 ring well earned , 2013 wins League MVP again then after a tough 7 game ECF they are trailing 3-2 in game 6 down 10 going into the 4th he scores 16 in the 4th leading the come back , Ray saves the day and then in game 7 he puts up 37-12-7 dinking the dagger in Kawhis grill with 25 sec left , then 2016 3-1 Comeback ,
Lebron never joined a 73-9 team. He joined the Unknown
I was waiting for this 😂😂😂
Yeaaaa, this was supposed to come out yesterday, but I got a little derailed with the news of the Fraud Rivers hiring in Milwaukee...
These new NBA players delusional
It is INSUFFERABLE
KD isn't new. He's been in the league for well over a decade
If I had kd athleticism I be dropping 50 a night in this non defense era, but his goat status kinda drops because he had to go to the warriors to win a championship because he blow a 3-1 lead. If they had beat the warriors they would have most likely whoop the cavs. He did that “if you can’t beat them, join them” type of move to win just like lebum. But I’ll give him a pass since lemickey choked more
a "bum" who obtains a "mickey-mouse" championship owns a mansion in ur head 😎
I feel for KD in a sense. Because I understand his reasoning. He didn't do anything Bron didn't also do to steal his rings. If Bron doesn't get penalized for that weak, soft ass shit, why should Durant? Also Durant's stat lines do look similar...AND Durant is actually MUCH more skilled than LeBron. I understand why Durant is thinking this. It basically has to be BOTH of them in that convo OR neither. I myself fall squarely on the NEITHER side of this debate tho lol.
@@skap_attack I take kd over lebron
he don't need anymore athleticism. All he needs to do is shoot more. He chooses to be passive for whatever reason. And I don't think they would have beaten Cleveland. Kyrie would have outplayed Westbrook and the Cavs had much better shooters on offense. Durant was really the only shooter on OKC.
@@antinpcmanwe got a lesexual over here🤢
just like lebron leaving cleveland, durant levaing OKC cemented his reputation. a GOAT doesn't say "I need more help". Garnett gutted it out for a decade with a pitiful Wolves team and came within a hair of winning a title. that's more impressive than anything lebron or kd have done.
Same with George Gervin. He could have dipped on the SAS for the LAL and joined showtime. He would have looked just like KD, so he didn’t…
So basically if you get drafted to a mediocre to terrible franchise you have no choice but to endure it your career and hope they can build a somewhat decent team around you?
@@Baby_Bagel something these new booty fans would know nothing about. It’s called taking the hand you’re dealt and winning either way.
Stacking the deck to win to celebrate like you didn’t stack the deck is weirdo stuff
@@Baby_Bagel you always have a choice. some choices will gain you respect at the cost of immediate gratification, some will do the opposite.
@Fatnut69 MJ got drafted to a mediocre franchise. He endured losing. He didn't sign new contracts to handcuff the team(LeBron and these new players). I'm not going to say if the Bulls didn't win that MJ would or wouldn't leave but he didn't. 7 years MJ was called Jordan and his team, the Jordanaires. Teams actually played defense and the best players generally stayed on the teams that drafted them. Some players during the years got traded to their desired destinations. Wilt, Kareem, Barkley, KG and Ray Allen but they were either old or they got significant compensation back for these players. Kareem won a chip for Milwaukee. He didn't accomplish jack after as far as team accomplishments until he got Magic. I myself would have more respect for LeBron or KD if they stuck it out a bit longer with their respective draft teams. As people, they appear to be stand up. They don't get into trouble. They seem to know how to save/generate income outside of basketball. Their legacy on the court? Not in the milky way of the GOAT conversation.
Love how you just speak your mind mixed with facts. This a daily listen for me, keep at it!
"With a complete dump in his pants..." LMAO.
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@@skap_attack It's so true though.
I'm digging your videos. You've earned a new subscriber.
Can we take a moment to celebrate and recognize another GOAT? …………….. SKAP! Your content is excellent man. Keep it up! Enjoy the entertainment and the education (on some of the stuff I didn’t know) but as well as knowing someone else sees what myself and others see but can portray it in story mode! Thank you bro!
keep it up with the amazing videos🔥🔥
I appreciate you! And you KNOW I will try my best 🙏❤💪
KD asked for this 😅
He did!! Literally 🤣🤣
Remember when he used to say, fighting off tears, “I just wanna hoop.” Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Its been a while since the comparison was made but whats your take on the whole Anthony Davis vs Tim Duncan "debate"? I would love to see a video on that
If LeAss isn't anywhere near being a GOAT than neither is Durant as he followed the same super team route with even less success.
I don't care much for LeSass. I have him behind MJ 1 and Kareem 2. KD? Top 20.
But killers for the final shot down by 2? I got MJ, Bird, maybe Kobe. LeSass is not on this list.
@@jlui21 yet he has better clutch stats than all of them🤷♂
I’m in awe of the circuitous route Skap took to clown on LeBron. A master class Ted Talk.
Have a great weekend and thank you for these gems, that no doubt, you would never see and hear on other networks. 🥂
I love how I start laughing right when I see you upload
I agree he shouldn't be in the goat convo, but there is no such thing as fake rings.
The only people who say this are you "fans"
Warriors were able to expand their payroll right at the perfect time where the whole league had enabled teams to do so. In some cultures opportunism is viewed as a selfish thing.
Yes. Those are fake rings
Did he just call Lebron's cav's team a super team?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHERE
Lebron Kyrie Kevin Love. Dude tried to assemble a superteam, don't act like he had nothing.
@@wavestation999a young Kylie and Kevin love is not a superteam
Easily.
@@saturdayticket how is that easily a super team?
@@danielchester1109 Irving had been an All-star his last 2 seasons, Rookie of the year and All-star game MVP. Love in 2013-14 was top 5 in scoring as well as many advanced metrics, while posting the first 26.5-12.5-4 statline since the NBA ABA merger. Both players were in their mid 20s
_"You know who i am. I am Kevin Durant"_ was the LIGHTEST BRAG i've ever heard.
His 2 rings are the LIGHTEST RINGS equal to the bubble.
And now, the LIGHTEST GOAT-wanna-be.
Gave the video a like before I even watched it… my mans brings it everytime!!!!😂😂😂
You had the same thoughts as me. A lot of people were offended by durants comments, but i wasnt because i live in a world where people have the audacity to say LBJ is a the goat. (Including lebron himself)
So if such a non clutch non championship winning (only 4 in 21 years) stat padder can be included in the goat convo, why cant KD or many others such as Kobe, Tim Duncan, etc? The goat convo has a very long list if lebron has to be included
"winning only 4" is wild ngl especially considering it comes with 4 finals mvps also do you have any proof for ur stat padding claim?
not rlly considering that bron is ahead of kobe duncan etc is u actually watched basketball from an objective standpoint it becomes obvious
Peak of basketball????? ITS A COMPLETE CRAP. Another great vid. Its a complete SKAP
I love how you find a good use for the Rajakovic quote in every video now haha
Thank u Skap for this!! as always, you speaking facts!!
Kevin Durant only won 2 nba titles and Lebron James only won 4 nba titles but does not mean they are the goat of the nba
We know DAMN well Kobe AND Jordan BOTH thought they would beat ANY player in their prime in NBA history one on one. They THOUGHT they were the best. BUT neither of them were running around saying they were the GOAT or asking to be included in those conversations. It's pathetic.
If we have to entertain Lebum's non-existent case for goat status, that means we gotta entertain Kd's as well
as always this is all lebums fault
EXACTLY right! I blame LeFraud for all of this shit. Next week, Carmelo Anthony gonna come out with, "why not me" SMH
bron has too much properties in both ur guys' HEADS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
I mean brons goat case is very real tho....
Lebron was also responsible for world hunger as well right?
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If you have to join forces with other established superstars in order to win a championship, you are not in the GOAT conversation. Giannis and Jokic have better cases for being in the conversation than Durant.
You can never be a GOAT if you don't have defense in your bag. That clearly eliminates many would be GOATS.
I believe that KD has defense in his bag. What he doesn't have is a single f%cking ring without Curry!!
@@kostastube2010 0 all defensive team selections, so no. But he was a solid defender in his prime
@@fangiscool1 That's what I meant, pretty good defender, although not elite.
I would agree completely with you here. The other MAJOR disqualifying element as far as I'm concerned is if you steal all of your titles by jumping to various super teams. IF Bron won ONE title in his first stint with Cle before running to Mia, I might look at him differently. If you don't DOMINATE the league and just go right through everyone else without jacked supporting casts even ONE time, you are invalidated from the convo.
@@skap_attack I saw a clip where Lebron was astonished that there were dudes in the NBA that couldn't play basketball. Classic case of projection. I would argue that if Lebron was on your team, it wasn't a super-team he was just getting carried - on a team of 8 vs 5.
Jordan would avg 60 in this era of low effort, no hand check , bring in casuals with more scoring......defense. a lot of greats gotta to be disgusted by the direction adam has stirred the nba.
Was waiting on this one 🙏🏿
Yeah, I got derailed a day with the surprise hiring of Fraud Rivers in Milwaukee. Had to push this one out as a result. Also this one got away from me a bit with the run time. There was just SO much to discuss LOL...
@@skap_attackDoc got hired in Milwaukee? Giannis gonna leave...
Was looking for this video
🤣 Go in on'em Skap!!!
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“Why isn’t KD in the goat conversation?” is an absurd question.
But
“Why isn’t KD in the GOAT conversation if Lebron is?” Is a legit question
They are both statistically very impressive. They both won multiple titles and FMVPs but only on super teams (or bubble ring, that shouldn’t count)
Lebron has 3 more mvps, 2 more rings and 2 more fmvps, 6 more all defensive, 5 more all nba teams, is the all time leading scorer, and has actually won everywhere he went unlike KD
KD is in the Top 20 conversation. Lebron is in the Top 10 conversation. The rest of it is not much of a conversation.
Bullshit. Why shouldn’t it count? If anyone other than LeBron won it, you haters wouldn’t be saying it didn’t matter. That’s like taking away the Spurs’ first title because it was a lockout season. Saying they don’t count.
I’ve been meaning to tell you. The way you narrate your content is second to none. It’s like you “drop the mic” at the end of every video.
"ITS A COMPLETE CRAP!" gets me every time lmao
Whatt this dude is such an L
Kevin Durant and Lebron James are no way near the goat conversation at all
Not even MJ would agree with you
NOT even CLOSE!
@@skap_attack never talk about basketball again if you say Lebron James is no where near the goat conversation. you cannot be a channel that makes basketball content and legitimately say that...
Yap Attack 😂
LOL 😉
@@skap_attackkeep doing what you are doing man love the videos even though I'm a lebron fan
Calling the 2020 lakers and the 2016 cavs a super team is crazy
You have Kevin love, who isn't an all star, and Kyrie. The rest of the team was not good
Cavs easily were lol
The irony of it. Winning titles but losing a legacy
Another great video 🔥
The difference between lebron and KD is that lebron lead every team he was on to those championships. KD had a great team and left to ride the coattails of golden state, a team that won before he joined and after he left.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 man I love these legit breakdown channels. I like this cat because he go after everyone he think needs it and ain’t mad about it
The way you set the ending to question Lebron's goat case was brilliant.
I feel like KD's ego has gotten out of control in the past few years.
The numbers in the NBA are inflated just like our grocery bills and gas prices.
All this scoring only proves that there is no defense. It's basically shootaround.
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If Durant and the warriors had three-peated and they won another one after that. Then he'd could enter the goat conversation. He'd need to win at least two in phoenix at this point
The NBA really really needs a franchise tag so teams can keep star players.
Or we could maybe not reward incompetent organizations?
Much more easier for a player of his caliber to dominate when the other team has to focus on Curry and Klay on the other side of the court.
He is amazingly skilled, but he cannot sit with the best of the best.
To be fair, his foot was on the line for a game winner in the 2021 playoffs that could’ve won them the series without Kyrie and James Harden that ring would’ve done a lot for his legacy
That was the 2nd round
I love it. Great video😂😂😂
Oh wow 2 burns 🔥🔥 in 1 video😂 That's just good stuff
When you consider Jordan's 10 scoring titles, always include his accomplishments on defense as well
The sentence "a mere 2 titles" should never come out of anyone's mouth.
He is the NBA version of John Elway. Great player, great stats, 2 rings. Great.....but not in the conversation of th GOAT
Calling Lebron the king of superteams is insane
I hate when people act like LeBron joining the 2010 Heat team after years of doing all he could in Cleveland was the same thing as Durant joining up with a recent champion and 73-9 record GS team in 2017. Not to mention the fact that his team was up 3-1 on them in the conference finals and they defeated him the previous year!!
LeBron didn’t join the Celtics after losing to them in 2010. Heat hadn’t won a title since 2006. Also, how were the 2015 Cavaliers a super team? Makes it hard to take some people seriously when they say these statements. I have to wonder if they were even alive or aware to understand the game and watch events back then.
You can add KD's non stat accomplishments (rings, scoring titles, MVPs, FMVPs, DPOY etc) to Bron's and it still doesn't equals MJ...that's why neither are close.
This is the nicest video Skaps ever done on Bron 😂. Keep em coming!
Honestly Skap your the best channel on CZcams you truly know basketball
I liked the plot twist at the end when it circled back to "why is LeBron" (in the GOAT conversation)?
Well played sir 👌
Dog. I love how you found a way to smash on Lebum even though this was about KD 😂 too funny yo.
KD doesn't even have a top-15 case, let alone a GOAT case...
(11 Tim Duncan, 12 Oscar Robertson, 13 Curry, 14 Jerry West, 15 Moses Malone, 16 Julius Erving, 17 David Robinson etc...).
Jokic is already in the top-20 conversation and 1 more ring will catapult him to top-15. If he gets 3 total, in my opinion that will get him over Tim Duncan for 11th all time.
he's in the 12-15 range
Didn’t Charles Barkley team up with Hakeem Olajuwon, Scottie pippin and the back to back rockets? Didn’t Karl Malone and Gary Payton join the super lakers with Shaquille O’Neal and Kobe Bryant super teams have been around since the dawn of the NBA
The KD and LBJ "superteam" debate isn't even valid. KD joined a 73 win team. LBJ joined a, I believe, 47 win team that was put out of the playoffs in the first round the previous year. D Wade was not the player he used to be and the Heats needed a LeBron to get over the hump. It wasn't easy for them, that's why they lost the first year. No one, absolutely NO ONE thought that GSW would loose with KD. If LBJ would have went to Golden State his scoring stats would have been off the charts too, and just like KD, I would have 100% lost all respect and credibility for him.
Generally speaking, all the GOATs were clear #1 options on championship teams. While Durant is a great player, he never was that guy. How can you be in the GOAT debate if you arent even the best player on your team by a mile?
Skap delivers again! The voice of reason and truth in these fake times.
The moment a new video from Skap comes big smile on my face arises. Keep going, man, for truth and justice!