Donald has one of the truly great golf swings He gets super hip and shoulder turn and his transition move is awesome There is absolutely ZERO lateral movement of his head. There is a little lifting but that is part of the modern swing setup Low hands at setup have to somehow get to a higher hands at impact
What I wrote below was faulty. I mean = I MUST move my hips 1st. For me this video is fabulous! I will see it again and again. Here I have the basic perfect golf swing. Thanks.
Luke is my favorite player to watch! Love his tempo and perfect swing! Odd that he does not have a major under his belt but it should happen soon for him.
@Tourswing Thank you for this information. It is imporatant that I practice the right way. Like Ben Hogan said/wrote in his book: "So many times I have been watching amateurs at the driving range doing, practicing, the wrong/faulty movement all the time. When you practise you must do the right thing from the beginning." (or something like that).
@emncaity Agreed. I was trying to kill the hands in my swing and it lead to so many problems. Once I started to realize that if I had a good grip at address and sent the weight into the correct parts of my feet on my backswing, as well as stayed very centered to promote a tight coil, I could give the club as much right hand as I want. I believe I'm getting the feeling Hogan had when he said he wishes he had 3 right hands.
We can sit here and talk about good and bad releases all day. Luke Donald is number 1 for a reason. He may have a lot of right hand in his swing, but please understand that this is a natural move. Take a large hammer and hammer in a large nail into a door frame. You will square up the hammer with the right hand (Right handed people). I don't know anyone who hammers with their "pulling hand" and if they do, they hammer poorly.
@BradMilligan As a guy who used to teach and also played as a lower-level pro, I can tell you for sure that the "no-hands" myth has all but ruined countless swings of amateur players, and more than a few pros too. The questions for a good player are where the release occurs and how much (and how) the arms and torso are going to support that release.
@Tourswing With a body release, the body continues to rotate through impact which means very little hand action is needed since the face is squared up via the rotation of the body, which equals much less face rotation and therefore much less timing. Also, with Lukes release, the loft of the club changes drastically through impact due to the left hand slowing down; you can see the clubhead passing the hands just after impact whereas the hands should be ahead of the club after impact.
@petereuropa The shaft in the belt loops is to stop his hips rotating too fast. If he does then the shaft will block his hand path into impact. The hips move too fast not because he is making them, but as a result of insufficient weight transfer to the left heel before they are turned. For you if you post on the right leg like Luke in his backswing (key) then PULL your hips to the left (dont push off the right leg)and then rotate them your hips will automatically move the right amount.
@Tourswing What basically happens in lukes swing is his left hand slows down through impact and his right hand fires though to square the club. This requires a great deal of timing. He is only able to strike the ball so well because he swings so slowly, even then he struggles with his longer clubs, especially the driver. This is why he struggles so much in the majors when the courses are long and the rough is thick.
Also, check out his feet at impact. It shows how hard he turns his hips before impact. If he quieted down the feet and kept them on the groud longer, ie Kenny Perry, Moe Norman, etc. he would be shallower after impact and would have more room for error.
@themothmanreturns The definition of a flip is the left hand bending backwards as the right hand pushes under at impact (which increases loft). Luke doesn't do this. He rotates the hands over (as you say),and then re-cocks quickly after impact giving the impression its a flip. Yes it does require more timing, but it is more efficient for speed. For a guy that puts so little effort into the swing and is as so controlled as Luke is-he hits his clubs pretty well (eg 8 iron @162 yards ave.)
He's not actually opening the face on the backswing in the bunker shot-he just feels like he is as its wide open at address and he's maintaining that open face.
@Tourswing In summary, Luke is able to strike the ball so well due to his great rhythm and balance but struggles to control it due to his flippy release. He also struggles to hit the ball far because he releases the lag too early and because more speed would require more timing and he already struggles with the timing. He is number 1 in the world because his short game is the best. He scrambles better than anyone and because his putting is so good, he makes the most of his good shots.
@themothmanreturns I think you misunderstand how a proper release works. the high/low flight is caused by a flip under. In Lukes releases his hands roll over, so the loft is almost constant through impact. Rory/Tiger/Mahans hips slow to an almost stop just before impact (Rorys actually rotate backwards!)-they get their extra power from forced body rotation (all have shoulders open at impact)
Dear Luke, very good advices. Maybe not a bad idea to put more details and instructions of DO'S AND DONT'S during the slow motion. Excellent. Good luck always. Gbu.
@themothmanreturns Yep the left hand slows, but he isn't firing the right hand that much-only enough to initiate the release-certainly not a big push with the right hand. His grip/backswing/transition ensures his club is approaching impact square (relative to the body). He will pretty much be relaxing through impact, just allowing the club to release over. I agree he needs more length sometimes, but has chosen control over speed/power-I'd stick with that formula if I was number 1!
@themothmanreturns Trust me-he doesnt flip, he doesnt release the lag too early-you can see that in slo-mo clips. His average drive is 282yds, tigers and hunters is 290yds, so he's not short either. For such a controlled swing, its very efficient as can be seen in that stat. He could force out another 8 yards with an aggressive body turn, but chooses control. And yes he has an amazing short game too, which is why he's No 1.
@Tourswing Obviously the face will close through impact since the club is travelling on arc. A golf shot can never be timed perfectly so the degree of rotation through the ball is key, the smaller the better. With Luke, his body stops rotating before impact, this means the club is not squared up so the hands have to do the work; the left hand slows and the right hand speeds up in an attempt to square it up but this produces excessive rotation of the face which makes timing difficult.
@themothmanreturns His release looks flippy I agree, but its because he has more of a hand/arm release and less of a body release. A hand/arm release is actually much more efficient(requires less effort AND produces more speed), whereas a body release requires a fairly hard rotation of the body (eg Mahan/Tiger/Rory). As for accuracy I'm not sure -I think other things such as timing proper pivot and weight transfer are more important at this level.
" ... and from there you just let gravity really take over." - Luke Donald. That is the hardest thing to do, to trust it and just let go. It is not your job to "hit" the ball, that is gravity's job.
@themothmanreturns He has wins under his belt on tour, and some big ones, so he has it in him. Its not length holding him back, but I agree his driving accuracy stats/GIR are down on average-be interesting to see how he goes this season, although not a great start so far!
If I look at video 'Ben Hogan Golf Swing' on yt, I notice that if I want to get a better hcp, I must not move the hips first but not too much. Please advice. I saw another video about LD what clubs he has in the bag, and he has a shaft without a blade and put it on the front of of his pants (training) - to avoid too much hip moving. What about that?
@BradMilligan Donald might do well to keep the butt end moving a little more aggressively during his release--esp. with the driver, which might explain some of his bewildering wildness with that club--but I'd rather see a guy with a full release than see him err to the other side (hanging on too much and overworking the body, which is absolutely epidemic these days).
@Tourswing It looks flippy because it is flippy. It pretty obvious that he has a lot more face rotation through impact than Mahan, Tiger and Rory; the club comes in open and he turns it over to square it up. This means the swing requires a greater degree of timing. So when you say timing is more important, it relates directly to the release. Furthermore, I agree his release requires less effort but it clearly does not produce more speed; Mahan, Tiger and Rory all hit it a lot further.
@Tourswing This results in poor distance control since he can release a fraction too early and hit it too high or a fraction too late and hit it too low. Again he is at the mercy of timing. Luke would be able to hit the ball with more power and accuracy if he continued to rotate his hips through impact sice he would able to maintain the lag for longer whilst keeping the face much squarer to the target and the loft of the club much more consistant through the ball.
@Tourswing He handles pressure well and works very hard at his game but in my opinion he could be one of the greatest ever players if he could fix his release. At the moment, I think he will struggle to win a major.
all these comments about how bad he is. im sure all of you play at world class events against world class players. there are more than 1 way to hit a golf ball. not everyone plays like you. nor do they want to. its about comfort and effectiveness. you could be the worlds best driver player but suck at everything else. or you could be the worlds best putter. or if you are good, you could be a very consistent player.
No swing is perfect for every shot. Donald is a lot like Olazabal, great iron player, not the longest straightest driver around. Though, their swings are quite different. Donald does not flip, he has a very pronounced roll release, where the uncocking of the left wrist (ulnar deviation) is followed by a very fast left wrist roll (supination). This release creates a lot of easy power, but spraying it around is a downside of so much face rotation.
For all those finding flaws in this swing I give you this simple point. One does not obtain a world class wedge game with flaws. Try executing a 60 yard pitch shot over water onto and elevated green with the pin tucked up front with flaws in your swing. You won't make it to Q school let alone become world number one
@sweetstoats lukes release is not a good example. very flippy. it requires a lot of timing which is why he struggles with his driver. his short game is the best in the world which is why hes number 1. one of the very best releases to take a look at is hunter mahans. just look at how the club and right arm is in a straight line when the club is horizontal after hes hit the ball. far more extension; lukes club is parallel well before his arm. lukes beautiful tempo helps him repeat.
Ahh , its difficult to say this about a guy i could only wish to swing it like , but you can see some real big flaws in his swing once its slowed down , almost jumping at impact. Ive seen him live and its his short game that got him to world number 1 , just an incredible putter but his long game is average tour pro level at best. Really struggles with the driver and even now he has it shortened by 1/2 an inch with 10.5 degrees of loft.
I really enjoy listening to this guy he really does it well ..such a great short game !
Donald has one of the truly great golf swings
He gets super hip and shoulder turn and his transition move is awesome
There is absolutely ZERO lateral movement of his head.
There is a little lifting but that is part of the modern swing setup
Low hands at setup have to somehow get to a higher hands at impact
What I wrote below was faulty. I mean = I MUST move my hips 1st.
For me this video is fabulous! I will see it again and again. Here I have the basic perfect golf swing. Thanks.
Love that whip-crack release at the bottom.....storing optimum energy in the wrists.
Luke is my favorite player to watch! Love his tempo and perfect swing! Odd that he does not have a major under his belt but it should happen soon for him.
The number one golfer in the world ...he must be doing something right guys hes kicking our butts ....
Great video. Thanks for posting.
He's gonna have a great 2nd half of 2012 season, especially at the Ryder Cup. Great slow mo vid!!
What a great swing!
you learn so much from lukes videos
@Tourswing Thank you for this information. It is imporatant that I practice the right way. Like Ben Hogan said/wrote in his book: "So many times I have been watching amateurs at the driving range doing, practicing, the wrong/faulty movement all the time. When you practise you must do the right thing from the beginning." (or something like that).
My nickname in screen golf video game is Luke Donald. One of the best skillful player and good game manner. Such a perfect swing!!
pure class!
look at how the club head roles over so perfectly with his iron swing
The axis is not blurred, it is really nice.
@emncaity Agreed. I was trying to kill the hands in my swing and it lead to so many problems. Once I started to realize that if I had a good grip at address and sent the weight into the correct parts of my feet on my backswing, as well as stayed very centered to promote a tight coil, I could give the club as much right hand as I want. I believe I'm getting the feeling Hogan had when he said he wishes he had 3 right hands.
Great share on this thanks
@EagleEyeGolfer
Thank you! I am grad you enjoyed it!
i love him.
thank you!
This guy has a perfect swing.
Very good! !
We can sit here and talk about good and bad releases all day. Luke Donald is number 1 for a reason. He may have a lot of right hand in his swing, but please understand that this is a natural move. Take a large hammer and hammer in a large nail into a door frame. You will square up the hammer with the right hand (Right handed people). I don't know anyone who hammers with their "pulling hand" and if they do, they hammer poorly.
May not of won a major, but still one of the best players thats ever played golf.
beautiful
@BradMilligan
As a guy who used to teach and also played as a lower-level pro, I can tell you for sure that the "no-hands" myth has all but ruined countless swings of amateur players, and more than a few pros too. The questions for a good player are where the release occurs and how much (and how) the arms and torso are going to support that release.
@Tourswing With a body release, the body continues to rotate through impact which means very little hand action is needed since the face is squared up via the rotation of the body, which equals much less face rotation and therefore much less timing. Also, with Lukes release, the loft of the club changes drastically through impact due to the left hand slowing down; you can see the clubhead passing the hands just after impact whereas the hands should be ahead of the club after impact.
@petereuropa The shaft in the belt loops is to stop his hips rotating too fast. If he does then the shaft will block his hand path into impact. The hips move too fast not because he is making them, but as a result of insufficient weight transfer to the left heel before they are turned. For you if you post on the right leg like Luke in his backswing (key) then PULL your hips to the left (dont push off the right leg)and then rotate them your hips will automatically move the right amount.
@Tourswing What basically happens in lukes swing is his left hand slows down through impact and his right hand fires though to square the club. This requires a great deal of timing. He is only able to strike the ball so well because he swings so slowly, even then he struggles with his longer clubs, especially the driver. This is why he struggles so much in the majors when the courses are long and the rough is thick.
Nice release
As good as it gets surely
Luuuuuuke!
Also, check out his feet at impact. It shows how hard he turns his hips before impact. If he quieted down the feet and kept them on the groud longer, ie Kenny Perry, Moe Norman, etc. he would be shallower after impact and would have more room for error.
Great face on swings of the best iron player on tour
thanks
Like it
@themothmanreturns The definition of a flip is the left hand bending backwards as the right hand pushes under at impact (which increases loft). Luke doesn't do this. He rotates the hands over (as you say),and then re-cocks quickly after impact giving the impression its a flip. Yes it does require more timing, but it is more efficient for speed. For a guy that puts so little effort into the swing and is as so controlled as Luke is-he hits his clubs pretty well (eg 8 iron @162 yards ave.)
He's not actually opening the face on the backswing in the bunker shot-he just feels like he is as its wide open at address and he's maintaining that open face.
@Tourswing In summary, Luke is able to strike the ball so well due to his great rhythm and balance but struggles to control it due to his flippy release. He also struggles to hit the ball far because he releases the lag too early and because more speed would require more timing and he already struggles with the timing. He is number 1 in the world because his short game is the best. He scrambles better than anyone and because his putting is so good, he makes the most of his good shots.
@themothmanreturns I think you misunderstand how a proper release works. the high/low flight is caused by a flip under. In Lukes releases his hands roll over, so the loft is almost constant through impact. Rory/Tiger/Mahans hips slow to an almost stop just before impact (Rorys actually rotate backwards!)-they get their extra power from forced body rotation (all have shoulders open at impact)
Dear Luke, very good advices. Maybe not a bad idea to put more details and instructions of DO'S AND DONT'S during the slow motion. Excellent. Good luck always. Gbu.
@themothmanreturns Yep the left hand slows, but he isn't firing the right hand that much-only enough to initiate the release-certainly not a big push with the right hand. His grip/backswing/transition ensures his club is approaching impact square (relative to the body). He will pretty much be relaxing through impact, just allowing the club to release over. I agree he needs more length sometimes, but has chosen control over speed/power-I'd stick with that formula if I was number 1!
很棒
@themothmanreturns Trust me-he doesnt flip, he doesnt release the lag too early-you can see that in slo-mo clips. His average drive is 282yds, tigers and hunters is 290yds, so he's not short either. For such a controlled swing, its very efficient as can be seen in that stat. He could force out another 8 yards with an aggressive body turn, but chooses control. And yes he has an amazing short game too, which is why he's No 1.
I love the bunker...said no golfer ever
@Tourswing Obviously the face will close through impact since the club is travelling on arc. A golf shot can never be timed perfectly so the degree of rotation through the ball is key, the smaller the better. With Luke, his body stops rotating before impact, this means the club is not squared up so the hands have to do the work; the left hand slows and the right hand speeds up in an attempt to square it up but this produces excessive rotation of the face which makes timing difficult.
Alguien tiene que romper las reglas... están todos mecanizados!!!
@themothmanreturns His release looks flippy I agree, but its because he has more of a hand/arm release and less of a body release. A hand/arm release is actually much more efficient(requires less effort AND produces more speed), whereas a body release requires a fairly hard rotation of the body (eg Mahan/Tiger/Rory). As for accuracy I'm not sure -I think other things such as timing proper pivot and weight transfer are more important at this level.
he reminds me exactly of a nice chef ramsey
" ... and from there you just let gravity really take over." - Luke Donald. That is the hardest thing to do, to trust it and just let go. It is not your job to "hit" the ball, that is gravity's job.
@themothmanreturns He has wins under his belt on tour, and some big ones, so he has it in him. Its not length holding him back, but I agree his driving accuracy stats/GIR are down on average-be interesting to see how he goes this season, although not a great start so far!
If you want a good bunker demonstration, look up either Pete Cowen's videos or watch Brett Rumford hit bunker shots.
If I look at video 'Ben Hogan Golf Swing' on yt, I notice that if I want to get a better hcp, I must not move the hips first but not too much. Please advice. I saw another video about LD what clubs he has in the bag, and he has a shaft without a blade and put it on the front of of his pants (training) - to avoid too much hip moving. What about that?
@MrFrankie076 It's not sand , its just where the club was in that possition and its slow mo
@BradMilligan
Donald might do well to keep the butt end moving a little more aggressively during his release--esp. with the driver, which might explain some of his bewildering wildness with that club--but I'd rather see a guy with a full release than see him err to the other side (hanging on too much and overworking the body, which is absolutely epidemic these days).
@Tourswing It looks flippy because it is flippy. It pretty obvious that he has a lot more face rotation through impact than Mahan, Tiger and Rory; the club comes in open and he turns it over to square it up. This means the swing requires a greater degree of timing. So when you say timing is more important, it relates directly to the release. Furthermore, I agree his release requires less effort but it clearly does not produce more speed; Mahan, Tiger and Rory all hit it a lot further.
I have the same tempo as Luke (according to Mizuno's swing analyzer) but I sure as hell don't have his game!
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he's got everything but distance
@Tourswing This results in poor distance control since he can release a fraction too early and hit it too high or a fraction too late and hit it too low. Again he is at the mercy of timing. Luke would be able to hit the ball with more power and accuracy if he continued to rotate his hips through impact sice he would able to maintain the lag for longer whilst keeping the face much squarer to the target and the loft of the club much more consistant through the ball.
great swing, but am i the only on who noticed that at his top some sand came from his club?
@Tourswing He handles pressure well and works very hard at his game but in my opinion he could be one of the greatest ever players if he could fix his release. At the moment, I think he will struggle to win a major.
hes got a great iron game. driver is his only weakness.
the red bar on my video has suddenly changed green in the last few videos I have watched. Anyone else?
Only one thing makes watching this pathetic and that is the iron shot almost makes me cry. - Thanks for posting
very very very
all these comments about how bad he is. im sure all of you play at world class events against world class players. there are more than 1 way to hit a golf ball. not everyone plays like you. nor do they want to. its about comfort and effectiveness. you could be the worlds best driver player but suck at everything else. or you could be the worlds best putter. or if you are good, you could be a very consistent player.
No swing is perfect for every shot. Donald is a lot like Olazabal, great iron player, not the longest straightest driver around. Though, their swings are quite different.
Donald does not flip, he has a very pronounced roll release, where the uncocking of the left wrist (ulnar deviation) is followed by a very fast left wrist roll (supination). This release creates a lot of easy power, but spraying it around is a downside of so much face rotation.
For all those finding flaws in this swing I give you this simple point. One does not obtain a world class wedge game with flaws. Try executing a 60 yard pitch shot over water onto and elevated green with the pin tucked up front with flaws in your swing. You won't make it to Q school let alone become world number one
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@sweetstoats lukes release is not a good example. very flippy. it requires a lot of timing which is why he struggles with his driver. his short game is the best in the world which is why hes number 1. one of the very best releases to take a look at is hunter mahans. just look at how the club and right arm is in a straight line when the club is horizontal after hes hit the ball. far more extension; lukes club is parallel well before his arm. lukes beautiful tempo helps him repeat.
This guy needs to juice up and hit the weight room.
Ahh , its difficult to say this about a guy i could only wish to swing it like , but you can see some real big flaws in his swing once its slowed down , almost jumping at impact.
Ive seen him live and its his short game that got him to world number 1 , just an incredible putter but his long game is average tour pro level at best.
Really struggles with the driver and even now he has it shortened by 1/2 an inch with 10.5 degrees of loft.
Im sick and tired of all these world number one golfers copying my swing!!!!!! FIND YOUR OWN SWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's such a big scooper... for the Tour thats really bad....wow..shortgame is really worth more than we think
There is a huge difference between being shallow and scooping. He is definitely not a "scooper" lol.
he's scooping in this vid ... thats why he changed his swing ...