Full Throttle Range Test & Worst Flaws On My Favorite Escooter: Kaabo Mantis King GT
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The Kaabo Mantis King GT is Andrew's favorite 10-inch scooter that was released this year. Andrew takes the Mantis King GT on an exhilarating full-throttle range test around Denver testing it on smooth pavement, hills, single track, packed gravel, and loose gravel.
Upgrades on the Kaabo Mantis King GT compared to previous models are adjustable hydraulic suspension, dual 27 amp sine wave controllers, TFT LCD display, folding mechanism, controllable LED lights, hybrid tires, M16 3-pin chargers, taller stem, wider handlebars, and IPX5 water resistance rating.
In this video, Andrew goes for a full-throttle range on the Kaabo Mantis King GT and tells you what he loves and hates about it.
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From a motorcycle rider myself. The best safety rule is “see and be seen”. Same applies to scooters.
I wear a yellow, 3M high-viz reflective safety vest every time I ride my Wolf King GT Pro eScooter. Sometimes, I wonder if I’m overdoing the visibility thing; I feel like it makes me look dorky and stand out a bit too much. 🤷🏼♂️
@@allemander dorky beats dead every time :)
What you said, and know your riding limits
Totally agree (motorcyclist as well). Also get a white/bright color helmet, it won't get as hot
@@yonutz333 hate that full black gear looks so good and that nearly every brand sells there gear in black. The bright colors are safer and like you said the light colors don't get as hot
This is the scooter I got based off of your reviews Andrew. It's a beast for my first scooter. It has the get up and go when I need it, plus the cruising range I'm looking for. Quality of video and information once again is superb!
Thankful for your support!
This is the scooter I'm telling most people to buy when asked as well . Kaboo FLUIDFREERIDE
IS closet legit (B&M)store near me ..
KREO motors is where I got my blade gt from ..I also learned of them from this channel aswell . Blade x review. KREO has help every step of the process. EVEN though I ordered online Mike held my hand every step of the way and let me change my mind a few times .lol
They where great and had time for me ..But most people want BM store for repairs. ANDREW maintained scooters preform the best and most people have zero access to a scooter mechanic . These things are important in purchase just as much as specs .
hey what do you think of it a month later ?
@@francoischene7115 Man, I am so happy with this purchase. I have over 300 miles on it now and there is no stopping it. On one single charge , eco gear and dual motor I took it 47 miles on one trip and still had about 5%left in juice In 2nd gear I was able to take it about 37mph. I'm a heavy rider also 6ft2" and 220lbs. No regrets on this purchase. Next one I buy is the wolf king gt , next year when I get this mastered. Also off road takes hills like a champ with me on it
@@adams_adventure if u get that wolf, u selling the mantis? -_o
Great video, thanks for making this video.
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Thank you guys for these videos, really helps me a lot in order to take the most reasonable decisions about my Escooters based on my personal needs.
Currently I have the Wolf Warrior X, the previous one before launch of the GT edition, and I have been thinking about get an "upgrade" and change it for this Mantis GT. Looks really awesome by the comfort, design and performance.
What do you think guys, am I crazy or maybe it´s worth it?
I have one of these and there are some things a potential buyer should know.
The throttle is awful, I have swapped to a 130X thumb throttle, much better, requires minor modification to work with the Kaabo wiring ie, swap the the +5v and sensor wire in the 130X harness, there is a video from ginger on wheels that talks about how to switch to custom throttles for kaabo scooters.
The springs are weak, riders 200lbs and over will find they crush them easily.
The shocks are complete junk, they blow out extremely fast, you will be riding on pogo sticks. Replacement shocks need to be 125 to 130mm with 1500lb to 2000lb springs, 150mm shocks will technically fit but they will raise the ride height above stock.
A percentage of these scooters have faulty motors, the wire shielding on the main wires inside the hub connecting to the stator is brittle and cracks which causes an occasional short to ground which then puts the scooter into limp mode and you roll to a stop, restarting the scooter resets the limp mode and the scooter rides normally again until it happens again. Kaabo is aware of this and will replace the motors under warranty, the issue is actually pretty easy to fix as well, just put high temp insulating tape on the wires and the problem goes away.
Kaabo motors are not very water resistant and will rust internally if you expose them to excessive moisture.
Stem is a bit short and the handlebars are meh, the on/off and shift button module should be on the right side, easy fix, install some high rise 720mm handlebars and move the module to the right side.
Early versions have necks that crack then break, a v2 and v3 have been released that are stronger, available through warranty or purchase on aliexpress, new scooters should have a v2 or v3 neck already installed..
Stem cracking was an issue on early models but a new welding process has been added to address this and it seems to have fixed the problem completely.
The TFT display will smash and break on the rear kick plate when folding the scooter because it has an interference fit, be mindful of this and move the display when folding the scooter.
The new fender still hits the wheel a bit on rough roads unfortunately, its better than it was though.
The torque on this thing is phenomenal, so much so that it is a problem for the front wheel, hit the throttle too hard coming out of a turn and it will spin wildly letting the front end slide out from under you, be careful, there is a setting to adjust the acceleration strength for both the front and rear motor in each gear to minimize risk.
Turn the regen brake down to level one in all gears (E-ABS 1), the wires in the motors wont get so hot and the brakes will feel better.
That's about all I can think of.
I use a 3-LED white light on front of the scooter, on strobe/blinking, which ensures I am seen ! During night, I keep it in constant (not strobe).
Great Review!!
Thanks for the kind words and tuning in!
What app is that. Great video. Like the kaabo. I opted to get the bronco. Their releasing an updated bronco 11 xtreme in the US Q1 2023. New suspension, New controllers and 50AH. Keep up the great work.
I have two of these scooters and I love them. The fender that it came with wasn't too great, but they did send an additional fender for the back which was shorter and the same as the front one, you could also get the fender extender on Voro if you need the long fender. The clanking from the folding lock doesn't happen either anymore. They added an extra washer or something to make it stiff and not move.
The only major issues with this scooter is that it sometimes will go into a no power mode, but I have only had that happen on one scooter out of the two. And Kaabo and VoroMotors are both aware of the issue.
I don't mind the deadzone on the throttle because it provides a safety so you don't accidentally press it while not meaning to, and it lets your thumb sit in the most natural position relative to the throttle starting and max speed. But I could see some people not liking it.
Also I would contact VoroMotors about your scooter, or check the settings, because on both scooters I have, they both get down to 49v before doing what yours did, where it capped you at 20mph while flashing error 5. And the percentage was also still up, definitely not how it's supposed to be. Going 25mph - 45mph average, I can normally get 30+ miles on a charge.
how does it compare to the vsett 10+
@@troxellroclord3235 I haven't used it, but as far as I'm aware, the Vsett 10+ is a slight downgrade in terms of suspension and display. But it's almost a direct competitor
I’ve had the “no power mode” happen to me once before, when it happened to me the scooter will still work in eco mode, just not the numbered modes. Power cycling the scooter fixed the issue and I haven’t had it happen since then.
The dead zone is nice because I can turn off kick start mode without it being unsafe and volatile
@@Ian-pe9rj what is power cycling?
Im about to get one, would like to know how to fix if this happens...
I have an E-TWOW GT Sport and I love the simplicity and weight of it. The bigger E scooters scare me because they jam all this digital tech onto it knowing damn well it all doesn't function consistently. If I get to 10% battery, I'm actually at 10%, not dead.
My only gripe are the breaks. I already wiped out losing friction on the back disc break, I straight up slid and my back wheel tailwhipped to my side, was riding on one wheel for a second. The regen break is just random. It's like 2 different breaks for 2 diff situations and you have to use both of them, there is no middle ground with the breaking, I guess I could use the foot break too lmao.
Thank you for sharing your weight, that helps clear things up why you didn't see more than 24 mile range. Another thing I don't think you mentioned is the PSI in the tires before starting.
I normally check the PSI before doing a range taste but my pump is broken. I standed on them to make sure they were safe to ride on and they were firm. I would say 35 psi is what they were at.
That's not the proper range. I weigh 190, and with my gear and backpack I can get up to 215. The proper range going that fast is around 30miles. And his screen only displaying 53v is also wrong, I have two of the Mantis King GTs and they both display the right volts when dead
@@MinecraftGeek24 Good to hear that they are displaying correct voltage for you! 30 miles sounds high, but ill take your word for it!
@@MinecraftGeek24 this is what I got and both my Wolf King GT and Mantis King GT will not go down to 0% on the battery display. You should record your range test and put it on your channel.
@@Andrew-vt4jt I'll definitely record a high speed range test. I will say the battery sag is kind of a bummer, but I know that is unavoidable. I do start to lose speed after the battery hits 50%, I can probably only get up to 35mph, then blow 25% I can only get up to 25-30mph.
Wolf Warrior X GT is the same price as the Mantis King GT on Voromotors right now. Which is your opinion for complete ownership? It seems like essentially better lights and stability with dual stem vs. Adjustable suspension. Thank you for all the amazing content guys :)
All they had to do was fit that thumb throttle that pushes down instead of across, to solve that problem with those throttles you have to drill a small screw underneath to kill the dead spot
Great review as always. What do you think of the vsett11+super 72?
I’m getting one tomorrow and it’s my first scooter. I never rode one before, but I just sold my monster pro that I rode for two years. I watched your review of the Visa 11+ and that is what sold me
Wow you pulled a hell of a trigger. I had no idea vsett made such a beast. Just make sure you are on REV or who ever you got it from, if anything goes wrong. No scooter is perfect and have their pros and cons. Your positive or negative experience as an owner can make or break a sale decision, I was thinking of going for the other beast as in the Wolf King GT Pro 72 v which about 1k cheaper with nearly identical specs. I have seen the vsett rear support snap off :( Not good best of luck.
I have yet to try it but I love the original VSETT 11+. Stable at high speeds and 11 inch tires help a ton for those obstacles in the road that are unseen.
@@Andrew-vt4jt well, if you ever want to come to sunny Palm Beach Shores, Florida and test it out you are welcome to👍
Hey Andrew could you tell me if the mantis king gt handlebar height is higher then the wolf x pro. Thank you for the great videos
thinking of getting it now
You will be pleased with it! I love the scooter because it is so versatile.
I just saw those ducks online for sale yesterday. It's fate.
I also own a 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 I keep in perfect condition. That mindset keeps me safe on the scooter.
Mr. Rubber ducky is my best friend when riding. 🦆 Ride like you're a ghost! The Vulcan 900 is a sweet bike. I haven't been riding my motorcycles since I got into PEVs.
I love this scooter
Good video and great scooter! I have that same ducky too LOL people compliment that every day just as much as my scooter do you find lol? Also it's a shame I didn't know that this version of the Mantis was coming out as I just got the new mantis 10 pro V2! Still super fast and amazing all around and these are great therapy for ADHD hyperactive brains! God bless be safe ride safe hashtag awareness is everything
The rubber ducky is amazing. I lost the helicopter spinner on my first one. Got to make sure to tighten it every few rides to ensure it doesn't blow away in the wind. The V2 is sweet with sinewave controllers. I have major ADHD, and it drives my wife bonkers. 🤣
Question Please! If you had to choose, all things considered, would you take the WWKing GT Pro or the Dualtron Thunder 2 and reasons why please. Thanks
Oye, I had the previous Mantis SE from Voro and loved it....was looking forward to getting one of these but that display issue with the battery I think is a deal breaker.
Mine don’t do that it keeps it’s power till like 5%
Deal breaker for me too. That and you have to pay extra to put street tires on combined with a faulty fender.
You guys are my go to channel for excellent scooter info. 👊 So I was ready to pull the trigger on the king mantis Gt but with the issues that you and others are reporting I'm hesitant. Should I wait for Kaabo to resolve these issues on the next model? If you had your choice between the king mantis Gt or the Yume X13 what would you go with? I realize they are to totally different animals but I want reliability and longevity.
I don't really have issues with it. I just don't trust the display but that is the same on a lot of scooters. I just try it out a few times to see the threshold on the display for a depleted battery.
@@Andrew-vt4jt any thoughts on the X13?
@@MrRonz1969 if you are mainly cruising smooth pavement the YUME X13 would be a sweet ride. It's heavy and large so it's super portable. It's also really flashy with the lights. The acceleration curve will be slower but the top speed will be higher.
@@Andrew-vt4jt Do you feel like the king Gt is more refined?
@@MrRonz1969 I do feel the Mantis King GT is more refined. However, the bigger tires and larger battery is nice on the X13.
Just bought mine this morning. It’s still charging, at about 92%..be out riding soon 🎉
Just got mine, how's the riding going brotha?
Has software update fixed throttle dead zone?
I would love to put those charge port connectors on my mantis pro, but I can't seem to find a whole set available for purchase, I need the connector for the scooter and the charger, which I can solder onto my existing setup. So much better than the previous generation!
I wonder if you could easily swap them out. I think the housing is larger than the previous models.
@@Andrew-vt4jt very easy to swap. Simple butt connector or solder and you can change any connector including these. Just need to source them from somewhere
I'm considering a dual motor scooter in the Spring. Apollo Phantom, or maybe a Kaabo or Dualtron.
Dual motors help out a ton.
The app/site you used for calculating distance, range, altitude, etc., where would one find that? The ebike link didn't work. Thanks in advance.
hi, How is the stability, ie would you take a hand off the handle bar ? I had a mantis pro and that was terrible for stability.
Would you choose this over the Wolfking GT?
Do you prefer the mantis King or the Wolf warriors (not Wolf King)?
Nice product. 😎
It's my favorite 10 inch scooter we have reviewed in 2022.
Idk how you can go from complete stop on level 5 dual motors. The initial acceleration is pretty harsh. I have to change gears.😂
Love it
Thanks for tuning in! I love the scooter.
There is no IPW rating on vsett? Can’t find anything on my 11+ super 72.
Holy crap that looks scary going that fast lol.
I’ve hit 56 mph on my Wolf King GT Pro’s display (53 mph using a GPS-based speedometer app on my iPhone). Fast = FUN!! 🤩
Is dust a problem with electric scooters? I would like to haul one in my car out to the gravel roads and go for nature rides on the boonies.
Thanks for the review... Have yo ridden the Burn E Max 2? If so how does it compare to the Manits King GT? Thanks
Nami 👍
Burn e max 2 is the winner for sure but it's twice the price, couldn't afford that so I went with the king gt. Just depends on what you wanna spend
Hello 👋
Doe's anyone having issues with the throttle cuts out on mantis GT?
I'm reading that, more and more people having this problem lately.
Thanks for advance.
If you set the magnet count to 31 and the wheel diameter to 9.8 you will have a more accurate reading on the display.
What will adjusting this setting do? Will it show the proper battery %? Or for the MPH?
@@williamk2158 MPH mate
Man, trying to decide between this for 1700, vsett 10+ for 1800 (28ah version) , or blade gt +11for 1800. Thoughts? I am worried about the stem issues on this one
How's the battery meter on the Mantis V2? is it more accurate? I need an accurate battery meter. Throttling your speed at "52%" is unacceptable.
You haven't experienced the throttle cutout issue. Won't budge until you go into eco mode and or power off and on. I've also charged fully twice but the counter still says I've only charged it fully once
That is really odd. How does the cutout happen? I wonder if the P settings are incorrect on your scooter.
@@Andrew-vt4jt there is no psetting on the mgtk. It's a known problem. Less damage control from both known wholesale sellers. I still love mine, just really frustrated when i see voros making videos of replacing certain parts that aren't normal wear and tear parts. The scooter is too new to not have a legitimate reason quote unquote for replacing the parts. Just waiting for a real solve whatever that may be. If I refund , I lose restocking fee which makes no sense when there's an issue from the factory. I hate the way they're trying to cover their own interests.
Had the thumb throttle dead spot been fixed through a software update?
I get about 40 miles on my mantis king gt going 25-30mph in modes 3 and 4. I noticed when the battery gets low you get more speed (and range) out of mode 3 vs mode 4. Mode 5 is only necessary if your going over 32 mph from my experience (i know you were intentionally trying to push it to the max for a range test). I wonder if kaabo improved the battery monitoring on the later production models, because mine is pretty accurate and I can do 25mph @ 8% battery left. Kaabo added a plastic washer to the stem clip which prevents the clanking around and they did improve the rear fender finally! Its a lot thicker and only slaps when I hit larger bumps.
How’s your scooter holding up so far? I just ordered mine and can’t wait for it to arrive.
@@tomaszj.9608 1600 miles and still going strong! Still have the stock tires and brake pads on it. I love that scooter!
Awesome! I’m a bit worried because of some people on Reddit commenting on the scooter’s reliability… have you had any issues?
@tomaszj.9608 No major issues. You have to lubricate the bushings on the suspension every so often or else it'll creak. Same thing with the axle seals. Otherwise all good!
@@brandonbajc2084 what about the front light? Do you ride in the dark? Feel like upgrading it for any reason?
Does this TFT display have save setting feature so you don't have to change the setting it everytime you turn it on?
Unfortunately, it does not have memory of your last speed level. It starts out in eco and single motor everytime it is power cycled. I forgot to mention it in the review so that is a good question.
Is freshly charged located in Colorado!? We have an awesome scooter group that rides in downtown Colorado Springs every Friday night at 8:00pm in Acacia park would love for you to ride with us sometime!
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6:22 error 05 kept coming up ?
Now I wish you could ride the Lexus scooter, I mean the segway GT2. Comparable speed, curious what your range would be. Probably very similar. Build quality is fantastic though.
We should have that soon.
@@Andrew-vt4jt that makes my day!! Can't wait. It gets lots of hate for the cost/performance, but to me it was engineered to be refined and not the winner on paper. Looking forward to your take.
@@Geoff240ti I rode it a few months back in San Francisco at the Micromobility event. It was sweet. I took it through some crazy terrain and it held up well. Surprised how powerful it was.
@@Andrew-vt4jt surprised you didn't record footage! But also super pumped you had some ride time already. You're my preferred YT scooter guy so I've been watching all videos wondering if you'll mention it. I'll stay tuned as always!
What are all these reports on the Facebook group about the motors cutting out and needing restart?
I've never ran into that issue. I wonder if it's the controllers/Motors overheating or a controller issue.
this or vsett 10+ 25ah now im conflicted i was all set on vsett now not sure after this came out but wud like to be able to attach a seat like the vsett
I'm conflicted between this one and the Teverun Blade GT+. LOL
I'm same wieght and my Balde gt does same trip with %24 to %29 left . Average 23miles with battery left ..What is Ah on battery ?
It's a 60V 24Ah battery.
What app were you using on your phone?
LED HUE
So how does the battery balance if it doesn’t let you charge to 100%?
Pretty sure if you leave the scooter on the charger after it is charged it will balance and give you a little more charge. Maybe like an hour or so
The batteries can balance out even when not full. The Arcimoto and Rivian don't charge to full normally unless you ask them to.
I did on my Mantis 40 miles on Eco Mode in New York. My weight is 236 pounds, Could be little better!
Mine doesn’t slow down until like 5% something is wrong with that unit
Anyone have any problems with the scooter cutting off
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Why the name change? I didn't realize the channel name changed.
What phone holder?
U mean the volts are 67.2 not 66.2 and all thumb throttles have a delay
Good catch, I correctly say the volts later in the video. All the thumb throttles that look like this have a big dead zone. I tried the Teverun Fighter Supreme recently and that thumb throttle is much better. Still a small dead zone but not nearly as much.
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Still working on a top secret weapon scooter
When is it coming out?
Going that fast on a scooter just seems crazy to me.
i would only go that fast if i had insane suspension, breaks and wheels. mine doesn't have offroad tires, good suspension or good breaks and it's scary just going 20+.
This is weird bro its showing 17% battery and u get error 5... i only got error 5 when mine got to 0% and 48V... check your settings, my scooter is the same. My weight is 110kg and I got 40km of range on dual motor, gear 5.
I got 39 km of range so it's very close to what you got.
I have the same issue with my Wolf King GT. I am never able to get it to show 0%. I checked the P-setting when I first got it but need to double check again.
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I love me some galbi and mac salad!
The others have a toebar. I see no were to add a toeboard to this one
What's EUC?
Electric unicycle
Jimmy's favorite PEV, the electric unicycle. It is what we use to film the other person who is riding.
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This is your favorite scooter? Wait till you see the Teverun Fighter and Dualtron victor luxury plus.
I loved the original Dualtron Victor so I'm sure I'd like the Victor Luxury Plus. We filmed the Teverun Fighter Supreme and it really impressed us. Review on that coming soon.
@@Andrew-vt4jt ooooooo👀. Now I definitely have to see that review.
@@ForcingShots we were at Voro Motors two days before the Victor Luxury was delivered. We were hoping to review that but then the Luxury Plus came out before they could unload it. I wish that Minimotors would give people an opportunity to enjoy their scooter before a new one comes out. Too much buyers remorse. 🤣😂
@@Andrew-vt4jt Tell me about it. I bought a DT Thunder then a few months later they dropped like 10 new models. I absolutely cannot stand the square wave controller and am looking for a new smoother ride.
There is a screw behind the horn, if u unscrew it a little the horn will get louder
It changes tone
Good insight!
@@altaqi.7 I know it's an electric horn in the light. I think they are meaning you can adjust the tone of the electric horn.
@@altaqi.7 how did u find me in this comment section lol
u should film with the 360 camera filming u ride the scooter its kind of boring watching the road all day
Good idea! Let’s do it!
1h14min lol total fail xD
That's what happens when you are riding at full speed. I'm sure I could have gone 3 hours but I don't like to ride scooters slow.