The MYSTERY Of The Missing Spider-Man 2 Boss Fight!
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2024
- Pizza time! Come join me as I go on a hunt for info about a Spider-Man 2 boss fight YOU NEVER GOT TO SEE!
(Credit to Anonymous Affection for some of the gameplay clips!) - Hry
Guess that would explain the Lizard subplots being used in the Spider-Man 3 games
His and Kraven's subplots in the Spider-Man 2 (PS4/5) game are eerily similar to the Spider-Man 3 movie game
Lizard shows up, gets big, Kraven is involved (might've even caused it, I haven't touched that game since I finished it in 2007, so I can't say for sure)
I’m sure you’re gonna get hundreds of people tell you this but I’m the first. Just about everything about the lizard missions was recycled for the Spider-Man 3 ps3/360 version of the game. Even the ninjas are in it.
Y’know I thought about mentioning that, but I figured I was already referencing so many other Spidey games that I wanted to keep it simple-ish 😅 Thanks for watching though!
The Spider-Man 3 5-inch-scale toy line included a lizard figure based on the PS2 game concept art design.
I saw that! I wasn’t quite sure if it was the exact same design though so I didn’t mention it just in case I was mistaken 😅😅
So basically they just took the concept and put it in Spider-Man 3, cause what you're describing sounds a lot like the lizard subplot and the Spider-Man 3 game.
Yup! A lot of people are pointing that fact out actually 😅 Too bad CZcams doesn’t let you edit videos or I’d add an addendum haha
Yes and No since the GBA version used the charater model in the stills used for cut scenes which became the bulky Lizard enemies. But the boss fight remained in GBA version and they did the same with the Electro boss for the DS.
Spider-Man 3 PS2 was underrated
Its rare to see these types of videos on old Spider-Man games. You love to see it.
I also realized those manhole covers are massive. Probably because you could've entered through them to access the sewer.
So glad you liked it! ❤️
You were right, there are sewer leftovers under two manhole covers
The lizard wasnt entirely missing it was on the GBA. But 3D lizard model used in the cut scene got used as those bulky Lizard enemies but not actual Lizard Curt Conners turned into.
Spiderman 2 in Gba has Lizard instead of Spiderman 3 in Spiderman 3 Gba Lizard is replaced with mad bomber.
Actually the GBA and Ngage ports of the game, which were 2d side-scrollers made for handheld platforms, had sewer levels and eventually the Lizard as a boss fight in the end of those.
I always forget the N-Gage was a thing that existed… Thanks for watching though! 😅😅
Nice use of the Scorpion music at the end, there. Fits the Lizard in the sewers better that it ever did his two levels
Is that music from the Spider-Man 3 game?
I actually can't remember
Play the Wii version of Spider-Man 3. All of this lizard stuff is in there. The lizard minions coming out of the sewer, having to chase and fight the lizard, lizard being turned into a giant monster lizard. Check it out!!
Why JUST the Wii version? Almost every other versions (except the portable ones) had it too
@@user-ek2xg3ps5s Cool! I didn’t know that. I’ve only ever played the Wii version because I heard it was better than the 360 and PS3 version.
@@handoffate7262 idk honestly it's somewhat the other way around to me
I appreciate how much research you did in regards to connecting the dots with concept art and audio files
wow the timing, as soon as i finish this video a new one pops into my yt recomendations of a guy that actually found the unfinished sewers inside of the game (only acessible with cheats)
I'm glad more people are shedding a light on the Lizard cut content! Maybe one day a dev build of SM2 will be found with an earlier version that still has the lizard content!
Varan is short for Varanus, which is a subspecies of lizards comprised of monitors such as the komodo dragon.
I'm genuinely curious now how they would have made it work. On top of the game already being stuffed full of villains with their own plotlines, Spider-Man 2 has a very different tone and theme from Spider-Man 3 where the Lizard and Kraven stories were added. The Lizard story wouldn't have served very well in number 2's more hopeful and motivating theme of sacrifice and balance. It works a lot better with number 3's themes of redemption, forgiveness and battling inner demons. Connors experiences a similar change that Spider-Man does where their darkest side nearly becomes their undoing. I'm guessing that's exactly why it was cut because either there just wasn't enough space with the Mysterio, Black Cat and Shocker storylines or they couldn't find a way for the idea to complement the story the way Black Cat does with her representing the other side of the struggle that Peter faces in choosing between his two lives.
Just got this vid recommended to me! One of my fave games of all-time and while I knew about most-to-all the cut Lizard stuff, it’s excellent to see a video solely on such a fascinating forgotten aspect of a popular game not discussed enough. Subbed and liked!
Glad you liked it! I hope to have more videos like it out soon!
thanks for the info big bro, always wondered if I just missed this bossfight
Make more videos in this style and your channel will be rocking in a few Months! 👏🏻👏🏻
i was surprised to see that you only have 65 subs! 😮
Glad you liked it! Slowly making my way up in subscribers, but for me it’s more about making videos I love! ❤️
Awesome video man. No tangents, no frills, no side tracks, simple and effective editting, almost completely informative. Subbed!
Glad you liked it!! 😊😊
I’m fairly certain they had planned to bring vulture back in some way as well. There was a cutscene hinting at a return in the first movie game and you can even find his feathers in the second game on the Empire State Building (which is where the original boss fight took place.) Guess it was just another unfortunate cut.
At least he has his rematch in the psp version
Pretty sure his feathers were on the Chrysler building
Tbh i think Lizard is the PERFECT villain for Spiderman 4 if tobey and raimi decide to do it. Dr Connors was a big side character in 2 and 3. And Dr Connors' actor has explicitly said he wants to be Lizard. Sam raimi can also make this the darkest movie, as he's one if the scariest villains in spidermans rogues gallery. Raimi can go all out with his horror roots and make Lizard petrifying. The plot wrotes itself tbh, we spent two movies with this character so i think its time he finally transforms. It'll even be really emotional since we know Dr Connors adores peter and his students and seeing him fall into a villain would give the story a ton of weight
This the good shit, straight to the point, and through. I hope u get hundreds more views to come 😼😼
Thanks so much! Still starting out so I’m working out all the rough edges, but I’ve been getting lots of nice compliments, means a lot! 😊
I just found your channel and you are massively underrated. Spider Man 2002 also has a lot of interesting unused content with concept art and old development trailers. Its quite nifty and cool and you should check it out.
As for Spider Man 2, The Lizard was to be planned for this game and his henchmen are still found in the combat arena (where their voice clips are recycled Skull Gang clips from SM2002).
I have a theory about Calpsyo though. She’s formally known as the wife of Kraven The Hunter and Kraven was featured in the Xbox release of SM2002. I think Calpsyo was planned to be a new boss who’d take revenge on Spider Man after he defeated Kraven previously, but because Kraven was locked to one release… she was ultimately scrapped and saved as a Superboss. I found it super cool how small secrets like these still exist in this game even 20 years later. I’m surprised Treyarch and Activision didn’t do any exclusive release fights for different versions… but perhaps that was for the best
Nice video! Keep it up!
Thank you!!!
This was very interesting. I remember as a kid being in awe how much freedom we got in free roam, so much so that i would look at every detail i could.
The manhole always stood out to me. Ultimate spider-man was my favorite besides this.
Great video.
This is the type of content I live for
Glad you liked it! I’ll have another video about cut content out soon from another early 2000’s game… 😉
Great video! Makes think of the thoughts I had as a kid playing these games wishing I could explore more than I could. Questions though, where did you find that Lizard/Calypso concept art and what's that music you play at the end? It's been driving me crazy because I'm sure I've heard it before.
So glad you liked it! The concept art was from Ian Hosfeld’s website (if you just type in “Ian Hosfeld Art” into Google it should pop right up), and the music was from the first Spidey movie game, specifically the level where you fight Scorpion!
I knew I remembered it from somewhere! Thanks so much for taking the time to get back to me! Would love to see more content like this, it’s so cool to see spidey content I’ve never seen before!
Good vid!
Bonus fighting arena is something the new spidey game should have.. let us fight any mob from the game and the other previous games with peter miles and venom
someone found some left over sewer maps in the game a while back
4:16 Varan is from the Godzilla franchise
Indeed he is!
it's also a name of a family and a genus of lizard species the most popular of which are komodo dragons. Varan from Godzilla is based off of the komodo dragons who are called komodo varans in many languages
1:22 I had, in fact fallen asleep during a quick nap. This confused me immensely. 😅
Well I hope you had a good nap 😂😂😂
Omg i could just imagine the fun i could had with that version 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Calypso does appear in the Boss Fight Arena of Spider-Man 2 and Kraven returns in Spider-Man 3 the video game.
Calypso does too, in the same missions duh
This is nice, reminds me of old school JonTron, keep it up, and get and intro. Kisses.
Thank you! I definitely have more videos planned like this, so keep an eye on this channel! ❤️
I'm glad it wasn't all for nothing, even if I'm unsure how many people actually used the fight arena
But I still would love to see it all restored one day, if that's even possible
I certainly hope so! A rom of the cancelled Daredevil video was found a few months ago and is now playable so anything’s possible!
I always wonder in the fight arena what those things were. I was like why I’m I facing Dino’s that sound like the skull gang. Man but never would have guess it was lizard minions. Not to mention calipso was a big question mark when facing her. I thought I missed a secret story line. Not gonna lie this game would have become longer which I wouldn’t mind.
he was in the gameboy advance version
Hey man. Cool video. Just wanted to let you know that speedrunners have found some of the lizard sewer levels underneath the map just recently. Channel called Slyfincleton explores them in one of his latest livestreams.
I’ll check that out, thanks for the tip!!!
i was the one that originally discovered it.
@@LylaFur Just checked out your channel, you made such a cool discovery!
@@YourOlderBrotherChannel thanks! left a comment on here a few weeks ago asking if you wanted to collaborate, dunno if youve seen it though.
@@LylaFur Oh shoot I saw but I think I got distracted and forgot 😅😅 Feel free to DM me here or on Instagram!
Also interesting to see *regular* ol' Lizard in the new game (figured it was just the big version)
Aye, is that footage of the Xbox version of SM2?
Some is actually Dolphin Emulator, and a few clips are from the CZcamsr Anonymous Affection! Not sure what they used to play it though 😅
@@YourOlderBrotherChannel Ah I see. Because I've checked the versions for SM2, GameCube, PS2 and Xbox. The big difference between them,
besides Gamecube somehow having better lighting, reflection and, at times, better colours for the Spider-Man Suit than PS2,
is that the Xbox version included the after image effect where Spidey leaves frames of his attack animations. And I think his air tricks as well when he's swinging, if I'm not mistaken. GC and PS2 sadly doesn't have this design for some reason
@@asdtgh8895 Really? That’s fascinating! I played on both Xbox and GameCube throughout my life, never really thought about the differences! I do know when playing the Xbox version on the 360 there’s some loading issues, with misaligned buildings and missing textures… Thanks for watching the video though, hope you liked it!
@@YourOlderBrotherChannel Yup, it might seem strange but it could be a small homage to the comics where Spidey can be shown leaving after images in one frame. There are other games that continued this trend back during Activision's run, WoS (Even Amazing Allies Edition has this), Shattered Dimensions, Edge of Time, TASM 1 for the NDS (I think) and probably more.
Yup, enjoyed it well. 👍
I am happy it was moved for Spider Man 3 instead getting the black suit, grabbing and throwing the kaju lizard into Generators then breaking open it’s jaw, toppling it over by grabbing it’s leg to then follow up with a freaking swing shot to grab it’s face to be smashed through and on to the train tracks pretty much beating its ass so hard it reverted to Connor’s, all I say is Insomniac Lizard got lucky.
I’m glad Insomniac’s didn’t have as many quick-time events though 😅😅😅
Interesting video. I reviewed this game several years ago and talked briefly about some of the cut content including the missing Governors Island. A concept that was added to Spider-Man 3. I forget if I mentioned the Lizard in that video.
Governor’s Island in SM2 was always a fascination of mine as well! So many things left on the cutting room floor, it’d be amazing if one day a source code disk for an earlier build was found, they just found one for the 2003 Daredevil game 😅
@@YourOlderBrotherChannel Yeah that would be awesome. Maybe the Lizard boss even took place on the Island, imagine that.
how could we get into the game files to find possible code for events ive been searching to mod the game for a while
I remember the good old days of this game and there were so many urban legends about it.
Legends like if you arrived at the manhole outside the pizza parlour at precisely on midnight the manhole would open up and you'd find the lizard down there. I tried it it didn't work lmao.
If you got 100% completion the locked doors at the Daily Bugle would apparently unlock and give you new costumes. I got to 95% completion so I can't comment on that other than I'm not getting my hopes up.
I actually used a debug camera to look behind those doors! Unfortunately didn’t see anything 😝😝
Wouldn't say insomniac recycled from 2. They recycled basically some of the core ideas from the spider man 3 video game's lizard just no calypso.