French regional accents: source of pride or discrimination?
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The French accent may be considered one of the sexiest in the world, but like other countries, there are many different accents depending on which part of the country you come from. Though accents can be the source of regional pride, they can also be somewhat of a ball and chain. Some lawmakers have gone so far as to call for legislation to fight against linguistic discrimination.
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She said people from Switzerland Belgium and Canada speak French. But she forgot about the worlds largest French speaking population west Africa!
Dont forget the east and the north!
Several countries make up West Africa.
Oh we know why 👀
Justin Rohrer And central Africa !
Typical. We don't exist to these ppl smdh
Ils ont pas parlé de l'accent circonflexe
👏👏👏👏
Toi t'es un bon.
Tiens, un like
Très fort...
Merci beaucoup je vous aime
Prends ma reconnaissance paysans je te l'offre
La journaliste française parle vraiment bien l'anglais
😂
Tout allait bien jusqu'à:“Might be consideuRed"
@@Sunflo_0 Ouais elle se la péte un peu mais elle a un bon accent c'est pas facile parfois à la maison on gère mais devant la classe on est comme Nelson Monfort !
@@vladtepes1753 elle se la pète pas du tout elle a un bon accent et elle est assez confiante pour l'utiliser même quandndes personnes comme vous décide de la juger.
Amandine TARDY elle force un peu son accent pour bien prononcer mais elle parle incroyablement bien
Regional accents should be celebrated and cherished. It is sick if people want to erase them.
paul bevan i totally agree. I love accents and I think they should be preserved
I'm fine with every accent. only the Chti one is to fcking exterminate
No seriously please erase the northern accent, its terrible, but you can keep the others
They already erased Occitan and Basque. I guess that also removes any possibility of independence movements arising. Meanwhile both languages are thriving in Spain.
Just as they want to eradicate the local people by replacement
Ils ont pas parlé de l’accent du 4 eme arrondissement de paris
Hahahaha😂😂😂
Du 13eme non plus
😂😂
😂😂😂
Je ne connais pas 🤔 ça donne quoi ?
Anchor women: here are a bunch of regional accents that all sound different from each other.
Me: *waiting for different accents*
I just know the Canadian ones.... sounds like ducks
@@1982kinger They didnt had any french Canadian accent There :)
You must be deaf
That's because they almost only showed Southern accents, wasn't really representative, they defo could've done a better job.
@@kotamin6740 yeah, I thought the exact same thing!
As an American who has great trouble learning French, I find the southern accents slightly easier to understand. They don't slur the words together as much as the Parisians, and they also speak a tad bit slower. And it also helps that they are friendlier and less impatient with foreigners attempting their language. Parisians give me such a hard time - it's not enough that you can speak French but if you don't speak like they do, they give you attitude. :(
Tell me about Americans always making harsh comments on people who have an inflection. No matter, how well a person can speak English, accents is the bother of Americans, regardless their education. I am French speaker and have lots of trouble understanding people from the South. If you were in Brittany, there is no accent there. It is very pleasant and the region is stunning. I love the south, too, but their way of speaking is hard for me. On the phone, it is impossible to understand what they say.
I live in North-East France, and honestly I can barely understand my boyfriend when he's talking to me, and he's from South-West France. French southern people are talking faster than us, and my accent appears like swiss
Yes I have had this, I have had Parisian apologise to me for a Toulousain saying he must be difficult for us to understand but in fact it is as you say!
amazing noggin No, ignorant Americans do, just like ignorant French do. Most of us want to know where you’re from and will probably tell you that we’ve always wanted to go there...
don't worry parisians act the same to every non parisians even if they are also french
i’m not french but SAH QUEL PLAISIR
Wtf 😂
lmfaoooo
I’m french and you broke me up 😂
reference ?
Are you cajun ?
I'm still learning French so I can't fully tell the differeces . I'm a native speaker of Spanish and I like the diversity of accents in a language, it makes the language more interesting.
Gloria Valenzuela agreed. In Flanders, people want to get rid of dialects/accents, but I really like it because it gives personality to a region.
In South-west of France, their accent is highly influenced by Occitan a sister language of Catalan ! And there are word that Spanish could understand easier, for instance to say the "throat", some people say "la garguante" and not "la gorge", just like "la garganta" in Spanish. :)
Where are you from ?
I am from Paris and we speak the Real french
charlot et charlotte who did you reply to?
charlot et charlotte Real French? You’re ridiculous!
I almost spat out my coffee when she said “accent Australien” - I’m Australian, and if she’s Australian then she’s the most British-sounding Aussie I’ve ever heard! 😂
As a Brit, I was shocked too!!! I was like 'you sound British here, mate!'
Je suis d’accord même si je comprend pas
Sirine K vous ne parlez pas l’anglais? (Désolé mais le français est ma langue secondaire)
@@user-sz6zb6uk6k En gros, le collègue du premier commentaire a dit que si on lui dit qu'elle a un accent Australien, alors pour lui c'est l'accent Australien le plus Britannique qu'il a entendu.
She's definitely speaking British English. But I bet she's trained to speak with various broadcast English forms. My sister was a broadcast journalist and she had to broadcast outside of her dialect. So my guess is the TV anchor probably is dominant in Australian English and has an Australian accent that surfaces when she speaks French.
Regarder une chaîne française sur laquelle ça parle en anglais des accents français. Ça va, c'est normal.
Pourquoi pas? As tu vu la version française?
🤣🤣🤣
"sexiest accent"...HAHAHAHA- oh wait sorry HONHONHONHON
We have the sexiest accent what do you think 😂😂😂🤣
hon hon hooon, foux du fa fa
@@notricx8918 fou du fafafafa
Oh just feck off u pig xD ! I wonder from where this cliché is originated, like if every french people's laugh sounds like a pig xD
Nan c nous
Makes a video about accents, dubs most of the French-language interviews.
Google
Daronte Boyd I know. It’s so stupid. Let us hear them!
Agreed just putting subtittles might have been the most intelligent way to proceed here...
*They don't have a choice, France Medias Monde's policy is to have the least amount of subtitles as possible for the sight impaired...*
Now everyone will know my pain as a French when I tried to understand different English accents!!
I'm from the USA...but it's actually really hard for me to understand a lot of the accents, especially when you mix in the issue of class. I had a taxi driver from Manchester and just talking to him was a struggle.
Spunkymunky I spent the first 11 years of my life in Brooklyn, NYC, with my French-Russian father and my Russian mother, and I think it’s the only reason I can understand other English accents, since my other languages kinda give me more of an « open » perspective on languages and their accents.
Sorry if some things were formulated in a weird way though, I woke up like 10 minutes ago
"les entreprises pensent que quelqu'un avec un accent n'est pas serieux"
donc on efface les accents
mdr
J'ai jamais entendu parler de ce "problème" de toute ma vie. 😂😂
Après cest vrai qu'à la télé on entend pas beaucoup de présentateurs avec un accent
@@amneDi Malheureusement, même s'il est vrai qu'on n'en entend pas beaucoup parler, ce problème existe. Inconsciemment ou non, pas mal de patrons sans accent fort vont parfois recaler un postulant avec un accent fort. A chaque accent ses stéréotypes si tu préfères. C'est de la sociolinguistique pure et dure qui paraît barbant de prime abord mais qui est très intéressant en fin de compte.
@@Noxytopy Après le visuel c'est l'accent qui vous définit face à un interlocuteur inconnu
@@epinoke4168 Exactement
I work here in the US and in my job I interact daily with francophiles. A large number of them are American students who are going to France for study abroad. The amount of times they have casually told me they "hate" the accent from Quebec makes me uncomfortable. But it's interesting to see non-native French speakers express themselves this way about a language they, sometimes, barely speak and understand.
there's no hate at all for quebecois accent. Actually, french love it, and like to make fun of it, like any other accent in France.
@@FuckOffTrendsI saw a lot of contempt for the Quebec accent from French people when I lived in Montreal. Some like it, others consider it bad French. I came across a French teacher of French in Montreal who taught the French dialect, not the Quebec one, saying the latter was regional. Generally ordinary people like it, the more elite French don’t like it. But I suspect things have improved a lot in the past decades.
I used to get alot of hassle because my accent was from north Quebec, and wasn't from Laval area like my professor. But since we were both in Massachusetts, I rolled my 'r' and there was nothing he could do about it. Hahaha.
Le français standard n'est pas l'accent parisien !!! mais l'accent de la vallée de La Loire ...
Source?
@@baptiste3468 Plus exactement, l'accent de Tours. Depuis plusieurs siècles la région est réputée pour la pureté de sa langue. Une source parmi d'autres : Alfred de Vigny.
Faux c'est le français Algérien
Sami BDM oui si sa 😂😂😂
@@baptiste3468 pas besoin de source, les parisiens ont un accent que la majorité des français n'ont pas, c'est un fait
j'ai jamais vu du francais, reengistrer en anglais par dessus c'est drole xD
Ça m'a perturber XD je sais ABSOLUMENT PAS lequel écouter ????
Quoi
@@zeynab8330 et quoi?
All types of french accents should be celebrated, not discouraged
2:46 on voit la mamie que Loris a interviewé à Marseille
Bien vu
Presque a chaque fois que la télé filme le vieux port elle apparait. C'est une ancienne du marché aux poissons.
Ptdr c ki
@@yfeboanvakenss8841 La mémé ? Ben c'est une poissonnière qui est là depuis la fondation de Marseille en 600 av J.C.
@@godefroydemontmirail2278 ah d'accord mdr, mais en fait je parlais de Loris
Am I the only one who speaks Occitan? I haven't met many people that have.
Alexis Denis You’re a pure blood Harry
You're a lucky one
Hey out of pure curiosity, how well can you understand catalan?
@@montimuros2837 Very well. But my dad is from Barcelona so it's like my 2nd language.
Wow! I have only heard the lady that makes the announcements in the tube in Toulouse speak in Occitan...
They didn't mention most Southerners make fun of Northern accents and discriminate them... What a shame
it's not the same. the northern accent is the dominant class and the south is expected to conform. hitting a bully isnt bad.
@@succme1229 yeah but, from my own experience, when I was in France literally everyone said southern accent was the most beautiful because of how sweet it was, but most Southerners I met tried to find every excuse to not go north, dislike everything about the north and make fun of them in every occasion possible. Of course I can speak only for myself and my experience, but I felt that a lot more from south towards northerners than the opposite so... Yikesss
@@angel_lucass idk.i dont blame them
@@leirezalakain2836 kinda agree lmao but North is way bigger than just Paris
@@angel_lucass There is a "fight" between the north and the south. If you go to the north they made fun of the south vice versa. That kind of stupid but yeah 😂 And a lot of people make fun of our accent. If from the South but I don't have an accent from Marseille. My accent is Provencale and here in Geneva they laugh a lot about it
J'habite dans le sud et j'ai un accent parisien, j'ai pas compris 😭
Honte sur toi.
@@unpseudopascommelesautres997 ah
@@unpseudopascommelesautres997 après c'est pas pour me dédouaner mais c'est plus pas d'accent qu'accent parisien
@@orianakiess9883 pas d'accent, ça n'existe pas :-)
The Parisian accent sounds stuck up, I like the sound of the Southern accents better because they sound more friendly~
Much ado about nothing. French is essentially a dead language.
@gentledwarf4483 outside of France, barely anyone even speaks the language.
@gentledwarf4483 sadly, no I'm not.
@gentledwarf4483 same here. Bye.
Southern accents sounds stupid, please, learn to speak properly
People need to get over themselves. Don't we have bigger problems to conquer? Making fun of other's accents or language is ridiculous.
@Hard To Say So what is this point that I'm not willing to comprehend?
Well many French people just love on picking on other s accents and correcting their grammar mistakes. Litterarly a whole past time for em. And yes I tottaly agree, it is ridiculous.
@@kellyroyds5040 It might seems ridiculous, but it's like this : a national specificity (as weird adds in Japan, tanks in Russia, etc... can be for instance)
At this point it just feels like attempts to kill any form of regional pride & identity. Making fun of accents is just the icing on the cake.
@@zeineb8870 omg love this generalisation
That fellow at the press conference pretending to not understand the accent of the speaker. As an American learning French, that has absolutely happened to me a few times. 😑
Fortunately not all français are like that are happy to hear me trying!
I’m definitely going to look up that ‘sound map.’ Sounds really interesting!
I think it is very, very sad that any accent is made fun of, discriminated against, or causes embarrassment. In many regions, the accent is all that is left of the local language of a now-gone era. For example, how many people still speak Basque??
I know right, that's so rude
He didn't pretend to don't understand, he just thought she had stupid questions so he mocked her and used her south accent. As a guy from the south i found it pretty funny and mocking the accent is often done in france without bad intentions
I have a little knowledge of basque, but only because a part of my family is from the spanish side of basque country.
Basque-spanish people succeded at maintaining the language and are really proud of it! when it almost disappeared in France for some reasons.
@@paulv5421 This was not the time for that
@@paulv5421 Besides he (Jean-Luc Melenchon) is partly deaf, which requires a high degree of attention from him to understand his conversation partners. Being interviewed in a hall with a lot of resonance and a large group of people may well have made him uncomfortable.
However, his mocking of southern accent was at least awkward...
It’s kind of funny watching this as a foreigner, even though I speak French I can’t distinguish the accents.
Yes because we only eared south accent in this ^^ don't worry
perhaps because you've only started to learn French. it becomes obvious after a few years.
It's normal, don't worry 😉
1st : they've used only the "southern accent"
2nd you'll get used to : it's the same for a not-native speaker to tell accents in English or Spanish or Arabic or Russian for examples.
English speakers on a French news channel talking about French dialects.
LOL
Flo Villeminot IS French and I’m pretty sure the other woman speaks French too.
That is how French people learn to speak English
@@AdDashcamFrance Hahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣
I remember you France 24 (here France 24 English) is done for people who don't speak french in order to present aspects of France, a french point of view, etc... in a language they know. By the way, those both speakers are French as I understood.
Oui et c’est comme ça...
0:16 est ce qu'elle est entrain d'imiter l'accent que les Français on quand il parle anglais ? Si c'est ça et bah c'est pas mal
I’m so confused what’s the point of this channel? Why make a French news channel in English?
Soft power
Its the same as american news in french. People don’t only care about news about their own country. Maybe they would like to know more about other countries
Why do the Germans do Deutsche Welle in English and also in Spanish? To communicate with the world! Besides, if you don't have the resources for smaller languages like Vietnamese or Swahili, you can cover most people with English.
Like most people are saying, US sponsored media permeates all other countries in the world. Now you and I, as Americans, are feeling what it is like to be on the receiving end of state sponsored television made for us by the French government. Weird right?
Je suis d’accord même si jcomprend pas
Interesting, we have that kind of thing in the US too where the Southern accent is fairly looked down upon. My dad's originally from Tennessee but when he joined the Navy he trained himself out of his accent just so people would take him seriously. Now he sounds like he's from the lower Midwest and people are genuinely surprised when he tells them he's from Tennessee.
Sadly, linguistic discrimination is alive and well in the United States too.
I'm guilty of that. When I heard the CZcamsr, Beau of the Fifth Column for the first time... Well, he has a southern accent and looks like duck dynasty.
I assumed he was uneducated, and all around bigoted. It took me a couple videos to convince myself that he really isn't a bigot. It took me about 5 minutes to figure out that he was well read and well informed.
I'm sure I do similar things with urban accents, Midwestern accents, and east coast accents. I know for a fact that I have certain ideas about a person by their nationality-based accent.
I'm working on curtailing that instinct for judging a person by their accent. I'm more concerned with my latent racism though. 🤷
@@hiphipjorge5755 I don't know about outside the UK but within the UK people definitely make fun of regional accents. Birmingham (Brum) and Liverpool (Scouse) are usually getting a lot of hate
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Grow a sense of humor. There will be things which will tickle our chords like your funny accent :)
@Vick Nad: Are you forgetting the Spanish invasion of North America which brought the Inquisition to them as well? It was more of a Catholic thing to do in the 1500s because it was a religious wave of non-Anglo Europeans. It also happened because Queen Isabella fought against the Islamic Invasion of Europe, so you could say that it was a violent reaction because of Islam. Perhaps there is more to this than you have ever heard?
C’était dans mes recommendations,
Au moins j’ai appris des trucs
Je viens des Vosges et nous, tout les "o" on les prononce "ô" très grave. Voilà c'est tout ce que jai à dire
Bah c'est déjà pas mal si on ajoute des expressions locales etc.
MoooOooonh
C'est vrai qu'en tant que Bretonne j'ai été surprise la première fois mais je trouve que le plus frappant dans les Vosges c'est surtout la vitesse de parole. J'ai l'impression que je pourrais réciter un poème le temps que mon interlocuteur finisse une phrase, c'est très bizarre cette sensation de lag^^
Moooon ben vindieu c'est pô vrai ça !
Les E je les pronnonce « Euuh » sans même m’en rendre compte stp 😂
Why do they dub it?? Using subtitles is a great way of learning a new language
French Caribbean here, our accent sounds suave baby (Guadeloupe)
it is telling that nobody mentioned those in the clip. and when we got served with a full map, the west indies were nowhere to be seen, not even tahiti SMH!
Lol ils sont blagueurs les gwada.
Max Kyzer une bonne partie oui
Louisiana Creole here! I'm a Francophone but everyone forgets about us 😆. Tris, mé vré
I'm crying she said we gonna talk about it with Florance then 1 sec later she was like "Hi Flo!!!" Like it's her bestie or something
Extremely disturbing not to mention Africa, yes.
Amazing journalism. So professional and informative, I haven't experienced this from a news station... maybe ever...
*I love this video!! well put together too, I love the graph thing that shows their dialect tract* :)
1:45 What is this accent 🤣 I'm French and I didn't understand anything
Seiryuu Mizukamiya NORTH (I think)
@@aachtlijvd5956 Yep. "Ché comme cha qu'tu veu'm que parl'? Bah mi j'veux bin hein, teu va m'comprind' ?" C'est comme ca que tu veux que je parle? bah moi je veux bien, tu vas me comprendre? Et encore son accent est tranquille, y a pire haha
C'est dans le Nord, en plus de l'accent, il y a quelques mots de patois...
@@Christieune En fait non, y a meme pas de mots patois dans sa phrase, c'est juste l'accent. "Ferme eut' gif" ou "Assi'd'teu chu'l'kailleul", "Chava tis'ot'?", "'ch't'avo dit qu'y drach'ro" là c'est du patois
@@kotamin6740 "ah mi j'veux bin" pour moi c'est du patois "té va comprint'?" aussi... il n'y a pas que l'intonation qui change mais aussi l'orthographe. Pis, rin n'a vire hein, in'né po du min'me coin, chez-mi, in dit "caillèle" 😊
Pride and uniqueness which is what we all should be proud of , being the same but also being unique on our own
I sometimes get mocked in the United States for my regional accent, which is actually rather standard. I'm from Los Angeles and generally speak Standard Broadcast English--the English of Television--but also have that 'surfer sound' in my voice, as I lived in beach zones. It probably wouldn't be too strange. But I have worked as a professor of English Literature at elite Universities. So, sometimes my students--or even colleagues--will point out the accent...as if it is a sign that I am unintelligent or lack depth.
Ironically It can sound overconfident and stuck up as well as laid-back all at the same time. It’s weird. But I think *_sUrFeR_* it’s kind of hot and manly. I definitely will pay attention to everything you say
I didn't know France 4 is available in English also. Watching 2 French ladies speaking in great English pronunciation makes me want to learn French more! But I'm still struggling in learning English.
This makes a language so rich. The different accents that people have in all the regions of a country. We, everybody, should be proud to have variations, even more people abroad who want to learn our mother tongues
Now just say 'does your glottophobie extend to the people in QC?' and watch them scatter.
ғ ɪ ᴅ ᴇ ʟ ᴄ ᴀ s ʜ ғ ʟ ᴏ ᴡ 😆😑
what is QC ?
@@thierryf67 I think Quebec
@@gvis3880 Quebec (eastern Canada where ALL Canadian culture is from)
@@whitelightsheddinweedsmokin en temps que franco québécois, je tiens a dire que je t'aime
Accents are beautiful and they enrich a language
It’s pretty awesome to recognize regional accents from France. Crazy after a couple of months of studying I know those differences.
I think the real problem and what they should have talked about the most is people not getting a job because their told their accent is a problem. For example, a senegalese woman with a strong accent won't have the same probability to get a job where you need to phone-call people than a parisian woman.
Except for that, there is usually no problem with accent in France. People can have préjugés, of course, but nothing that you can't outpass.
(I'm from Marseille - in the South of France - and I don't have an accent).
I have a very strong southern accent but have had to "neutralise" it to get a better and higher end job
Triste 😢
J’ai appris beaucoup de choses sur les accents de mon pays xD
I am french, and each time i have heard a joke about accents it was always with humour and tenderness where î’m from (Paris). Southern accent in particular is very much appreciated because it sounds friendly. It’s when i travel in the south that people recognize i come from paris and they’re not always welcoming me with opened arms. La Corse is even worse, i could get in trouble very easily juste because i am « from the continent » which shows how much this kind of discrimination is absurd.
Though it’s true there isn’t a lot of accent diversity in positions of power.
pauline leclerc exactly but where are the people who like the southern accent in Paris? I never find someone who like this one...
Haven't found much either... Nobody cares but I find marseillais accent pretty annoying.
Reporter flirting with french connection is actually most amazing thing about this video.
They got a great chemistry
22 septembre 2019, je viens de visiter le site "Atlas sonore", la carte de France n'est jamais apparue à l'écran ... :-(
Here in Germany we have a ridiculous amount of regional varieties, but only two regional languages. People tend to mock eastern and far-north accents, while southerners are proud of it no matter if someone understands them. A northwest accent is considered almost none at all and sounds “educated” compared to (high) Saxon which is the most mocked one. Oh and the Berlin accent gets a lot of “glottiphobia” because it comes with a more direct and honest way of telling things.
As a French-Canadian, with a French father, I always thought that southern French accents sounded more like like Canadians in French-Immersion... like, they speak French but they can’t pronounce all the words correctly. At least it’s not the Québec accent lmao
"correctly"
So...
" Vive le Québec libre ! "
Ae Ea I’m just kidding, j’adore le Québec
Discimination of accents, huh? The dead corpses of Alsatian, Breton and Occitan say hi.
Ach, merci!
J'ai appris ce qu'était la glottophobie
Le linguiste interrogé est mon prof de sociolinguistique à la fac. J'ai beugué à mort en le voyant :')
1:17 When I listen to myself talkIng I do not find my voice so sexy as that, besides it's weird when I speak with French from other regions they all know right away that I am Toulousain yet when I do not see what distinguishes us I can not perceive my accent , everyone sounds normal to me I guess its must be like the Marseillais or Parisian I recognize them quite easily Its weird fact when foreign women tell me that my voice is sexy, for me the sexiest languages are English from England and Japanese who have a voice too cute in French 😉
"we don't even have a language, we have accents like Maurice Chevalier." "Ah, ha ha."
Jsuis salement insultée on parle pas de l'accent Savoyard..
La discrimination à l'accent se justifie un peu parfois quand on a une besoin d'une voix claire et plutôt neutre, j'ai un accent moi-même mais je comprends parfois cette position. Pas toujours. C'est toujours agréable d'entendre l'accent chantant dans le Sud.
C'est impressionnant l'accent parfait des présentatrices quand elle disent des mots français
Auron Kardek elles doivent être française en fait.
As a French 🚺 I really love the South's accent. I wish I could talk like them. My " Parisian" accent is boring.
Btw I'm looking for native English speaker living in Paris, to hang out, and why not create a friendship
@gentledwarf4483 I agree with you and I live next to Paris.
The living proof of the war against multilingual France
Linguistic discrimination can be so subtle, yet so real. Haitians often face this weird situation when speaking with other Francophones. There's this strange look you get and/or you're asked to repeat a sentence many times. Funny how I've faced this situation with Quebec folks than French folks.
Well I'm from Toulouse and when I moved to Paris, people couldn't stop making fun of my accent. It's funny at the beginning but when everyday someone tells you "oh, you're not from here aren't you" it's getting tiring. So without even planning it, I erased my accent. And now I regret it!
J'me suis encore perdu.
Merci les notifs CZcams 😆
Here in the US there is a saying that having a Southern accent lowers your IQ by ten points. It is certainly not so much true as it was a couple of generations ago.
I remember hearing once that much of the push for standardization of French has it's origins in the Revolution, the various reformers seeing regional dialects as deliberately contrived by the nobles and the Ancien Regime to maintain power.
I wonder how much social capital this notion actually has, if indeed it ever had any.
Wow I was once told that I spoke French like a native ( South East France) and although a bit rusty now I could still easily hold a conversation. However I was struggling to understand the first 3 men at the beginning, especially the third. The rest were fine and the woman at the very end was more like the accent I was used to when I lived there.
Amanda Davies the third man at the beginning is actually speaking with a northern accent, quite hard to understand indeed
@@Furari23 Yes I just listened again, and it's mainly the 3rd one. So strange as I never realised there were such strong accents in some parts.
Amanda Davies it’s really similar to the accent in “Bienvenue chez les Chtis”
@@Furari23 I just had to google that and found a trailer...might see if I can find the whole thing sometime.
Amanda Davies go for it, it’s a nice movie!
Discrimination 😞😞... J'avais jamais vu ça comme ça...
Pour moi il s'agit plutôt de prendre un ton - plutôt qu'un accent - universel dès qu'il s'agit de travailler ou simplement d'interagir avec des personnes qui viennent d'autres régions. Pour se comprendre mutuellement. Mettez un Raimu avec un Gabin pour qu'ils parlent ensemble ça ne va rien donner. Les accents sont épais et les expressions seulement locales.
Mais si on est entre personnes du même coin que ce soit pour le travail ou pour la détente la on va garder notre accent, normal.
Après l'idée qu'il y a un pouvoir qui "tue" les accents; pour ma part je n'ai jamais perçu ni pression ni repression sur qui que ce soit pour qu'il quitte sa culture & langue locale. Si quelqu'un veut faire perdurer sa culture locale rien ne lui interdit.
Parler de menace contre les régions pour moi ça provient de petits fachos qui essaient de gagner un quelconque intérêt.
Et de toute façon une langue c'est fait pour communiquer. Son historique on s'en fout un peu. À mon sens ce qui compte le plus c'est surtout de garder les belles expressions: les mots justes, les mots qui désignent des concepts justes et intéressant, les mots qui expriment bien des idées importantes, pertinentes, belles etc... c'est ca qui fait l'intérêt, la beauté et la performance d'une langue.
exactement, le problème ne devrait pas être l'accent mais le ton que la personne prend dans un milieu profession par opposition au ton pris avec la famille et les amis.
La stigmatisation tue la culture. Il n'y a pas de meilleure façon de parler, mais on impose une façon comme si c'était la meilleure. Après, les gens se mettent à rire de ceux qui ne parle pas comme la "meilleure façon" qui, rapellons-le, fut choisie arbitrairement. Les moqueries causent un sentiment d'infériorité et pour ne plus sentir cette impression d'infériorité, les gens s'assimilent à l'accent imposé. Cette façon malsaine d'imposer sa culture à autrui tue les autres cultures qu'on le veuille ou non.
PS: Je suis du Canada et il m'est aisé de comprendre tous les accents de la vidéo. L'argument de l'intelligibilité est vide. Nous nous comprenons malgré les quelques différences linguistiques que nous avons.
nico
Ce que tu dis n’a aucun sens.
C'est normal ce sont les anciennes générations qui ont subis cette discrimination pas nous, à l'époque ou les langues régionales étaient interdites dans les écoles et où la moindre différences de langues, patois et d'accents étaient pointer du doigt et humilié par les parisiens
Jsuis archi morte à chaque fois que la dame passe d'anglais à français c'est archi drôle 🤔😂😂😂
Anglais, elle a l'air heureuse et tout et français en mode "ouais bof bof" 😭😂😂😂
The way she said "Jean Luc Melanchon" 😭 I died
La première question que je me suis posé, les présentatrices sont françaises qui parlent anglais ou des anglaises qui parlent savent parler français, parce que leurs deux accents sont géniaux
J'ai remarqué qu'en Ch'ti ils n'utilisent pas le subjonctif.. ça a été assez choquant pour moi ( mi, j'veux que tu viens .. )
I love the southern accent!
You forget breton 😂🙌🏼
It's not an accent
Elt Lrt crois moi on a un accent 😂
@@Sasuke-xf9do ah je pensais qu'en disant you forget breton tu parlais de la langue bretonne, qui n'est pas un accent, d'où mon commentaire :)
Elt Lrt t’inquiète
You forgot your irregular verbs lmao
I hear a lot of phonological differences. Not sure I heard much accent differences, though, such as a change in stress in a word.
Southerners sometimes pronounce the epenthetic final "e".
I used to live in South Korea, and they have the same accent discrimination... the Seoul/capitol accent is considered the best, most normal, most educated accent. A countryside accent or Southern accent from Busan is often made fun of. And a North Korean refugee living in the south can usually be clocked by their accent almost immediately. They especially experience a lot of discrimination.... kinda sad.
2:59 c'est mon prof mdrr jpp qu'est ce qu'il fou là
Omg je cherchais un commentaire par rapport à ça 😭😭😭😭😭😭
J’en connais qui veulent finir dans les livres d’anglais
Je suis venu à Bordeaux cette été pour pratiquer Français (premier fois en France, je suis Russe) et 50 pour cent de gens m'ont dit que il n'y a pas d'accent à Bordeaux, ils ont dit que c'est le meme que dans Paris, mais les autres 50 pour cent de gens m'ont dit que il y a, en fait, un accent à Bordeaux et que à Paris les gens parlent différemment, mais car je n'ai jamais été à Paris moi meme je peux pas juger. Est-ce que l'accent à Bordeaux est différent que l'accent Parisien?
P.S. - désolé pour mon français
L'accent est légèrement différent, mais étant donné que beaucoup de parisiens vivent à Bordeaux, tu es probablement déjà habituée à leur accent 😉
C'est différent, en France il faut surtout faire attention au son "é" (ed, ez, "et"), et "è" (ai, "est", "haie", lait").
En tant que français c'est ce qui me pose problème, parce que certains mots se ressemblent beaucoup
Après, les vraies différences ce sont surtout des expressions locales qui se disent à Bordeaux et pas ailleurs. Mais c'est le même français, pas de raison de s'inquiéter !
Ps: vous avez un très bon niveau c' est très clair !
Vous avez un bon niveau de français 😉
@@willyjuju2979 merci
@@Wazkaty merci bcp
6:12 she conveniently forgot the former African colonies.
She probably did not forget, but intentionally left it out to avoid being called a 'race-ist*" (misspelled intentionally to avoid the bot censoring it). No one will cry race-ism* if they mock only caucasian people.
Accent australien? What? You're british
That confused me too LOL
🥚 👄
i peeped the oz subtlety , to be fair she has been living in mainland eu for a long time, you end up picking up a bit of englishness.
@@PHlophe Fair enough 🙂
@@PHlophe She probably had to model a British accent to get the job. So, even if she's from Oz, she was probably directed to keep it Limey.
Errr.. .yeah. This is the case in most countries. In my land of England. A strong accent is not fitting for tv.
What! Are you still allowed to say, "England"! (Just kidding. PC culture ...)
Est-qu'on peut me dire d'où vient l'accent de 1:54 ?? C'est un des plus beaux accents que j'ai entendu. Wow !
Could someone tell me where the accent at 1:54 is from? It's one of the most beautiful accents I've ever heard!
F.W. M. C’est parisien, non? je parle avec cet accent et je viens de région parisienne.
Il a une croix occitane sur son bonnet
Je pense belge car il a une calotte belge et un drapeau flamingant (même si il a d’autre signe de 826272 régions de France)
@@alexia6577 hmm, je trouve l'accent parisien plus léger, mais j'adore quand même
@@unusualsuspect1262 hmm bon à savoir, merci !
It's only the parisian/versaillais post 1960s' upper middle and upper class accents that are used on tv and radio.
The 2 "traditionnal" parisian accents are the popular "titi" speech (ex Jean Gabin) and the highly aristocratic "16e" one (ex Giscard). The first one is mostly diluted as a result of the complete gentrification of Paris though.
Oh, and if you have Northern/Champagne/Burgundy/Alsacian accent, you'll be automatically categorised as a hick.
Why the hell would you dub?? Not only in general but especially in a video like this? Just use subtitles man
Je suis totalement d’accord, franchement quel est l’interêt de doubler du français ! Des sous-titres auraient étés amplement suffisants.
For blind people maybe
Regional accents are discriminated around the world. Even here in the Philippines.
Gosh... 😳
4:27 "I had" and "je sais" has a totally different meaning=>I know that I erased my accent....... "
you translate what she says to "I had to"
C'est bien traduit, "I had to" c'est une obligation que tu te fixes toi-même. Et dans le cas présent elle l'a fait pour pas se sentir discriminée dans la profession d'avocate donc on peut parler d'obligation
@@kiho9918 oui mais là dans le son en arrière quand elle parle en français elle dit je sais que j'ai effacé mon accent donc au final ça change quand même, même si y a une volonté de signifier une obligation au téléspectateurs
Fascinating.
"with my accent australien" lolwut ?
I'm French, I live in France, but I didn't know there was accent discrimination..
Sérieusement? Tu es de quel coin?
@@Christieune normandie!
As-tu déjà vu une personne avec un accent du sud au JT de TF1 ? 😅
What about the French Caribbean islands?
Dommage que sur l'atlas sonore le dialecte charolais a été oublié
Ben perso les phrases qu'ils ont mis pour la franche comté je comprend que dalle alors que bon, mes voisins je les comprend bien hein. Ils reprennent même pas les accents en fait mais carrément le patois. Ça sert à rien et c'est pas representatif
Le pire c'est l'accent de cité.
J'avoue
toi t'as pas écouté le reportage...
L'accent de cité ne fait pas partie des accents régionaux français
je suis Algérien né en Algérie et j'avoue que l'accent des cité est crade
I can't tell the difference ._. All sound the same to me lol
It's normal when you're not used to 😉
mango juice yas We have the same problem with the british and american accent when we (french peoples) learning english
@@nausicaava4150 Not for all people... the difference for me is really easy you hear.
Est-ce que qqn peut me dire d'où vient le mot '' itou '' pour '' aussi '' svp ? Cévennes ?
1:20 oui... c'est surprenant aussi pour moi qui vit à Toulouse