That Time Luke Cage Asked Dr. Doom for His Money, Honey - Comic Tropes (Episode 25)
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- Luke Cage is a cool badass. When he was introduced in the 70s, the attitude was there but the execution was a little unintentionally funny. I take a look at one of the weirdest early issues where Cage spends the entire time trying to shake down Dr. Doom for $200.
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Listen, if a man flew a plane into your sovereign nation, beat up a bunch of your guards, teamed up with a robot rebellion, demanded $200, punched through your advanced super armor, and defended you from an alien with a fishbowl on it's head, you would show that Man respect now matter how big your ego is.
"I hate you, I'm gonna kill you, give me 200 dollars"
-Luke Cage to Dr. Doom
Agreed 😂😂😂 !!!
I shared a couple of my Luke Cage comics with my students and they laughed at the slang used in the book. What's funny about this issue is that he burned up about 9,000 dollars worth of jet fuel to go to collect 200 dollars. That's hilarious.
MRCLSmoothful Exactly. Although I guess that's on the Fantastic Four's dime.
Wait a minute, when did Powerman learn to fly a rocket?
It's the principle of the thing.
It's the principle of the thing.
Do "Brother Voodoo" .I never got past the first 10 issues on "Hero for Hire" or BV
"Doom betta have my money!"
😂😂😂
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For me the best part of this story was how Reed Richards is all good on loaning Luke a rocket ship as soon as he finds out that it's going to make trouble for Doom. "What? My old college roommate owes you money? Here, have a rocket ship!" Really makes me think Victor didn't honor the "tie knotted around the doorknob" thing when Sue was a-visiting their dorm room. Luke's insanely over the top on debt collection here, although still way behind the newspaper boy from Better Off Dead.
I was thinking about that kid.
If anything, Reed thinking of how he loaned Doom a few bucks back in college and never got it back.
He's always been a dick.
When Rick was in college, Sue was about 14 years old. So yikes
Ehhhhhh Reed and Sue didn't get together till after he was out of College, When he was in college she was in HS.
I have to correct one of your assertions, Doctor Doom does not have an ego the size of Manhattan, he has a ego the size of Ego
The man speaks about himself in the third person. He thinks being a God is beneath him. Doom's ego is immeasurable.
I like when Luke Cage tells Doom ..you remind me of school on Sunday no class..
I remember that from the _Fat Albert_ cartoons!
What about Sunday school???
@@EndPoliticalCorruption hey Hey HEY !!!!!!!
Then Luke and his friends wrote and performed a whole song about the experience towards the end.
I liked him better as a former gang member. I grew up around a bunch of thugs that grew up and became decent hard working law-abiding citizens. I think there is some personal growth that Cage went through over his entire life, starting off in the streets, becoming a streetwise hero for hire, and then eventually a smart family man and hero of the downtrodden. There are enough heroes with boring stories of being good people who are given great powers.
Peter Smith I agree! 👍🏽
So do I.
but EVERY black character was a “gang” member....that shizz was tired asf 🤨
@@theexpandingmane1768 Damn what gang was Blade in? Spawn? Black Lightning? Icon?
Black Panther was the first black superhero and he was a literal king
@@theexpandingmane1768 what are you even talking about?
Luke Cage to Doom: *"WHERE'S MY MONEY, HONEY?"* LOL😂 dead
You don't get to be the ruling monarch of Latveria without keeping some petty cash lying around for times just like these!
Luke Cage tries to shakedown Dr Doom for $200? That's it, I'm going on *ebay* to track this comic down! That's got to rank as one of *the* strangest stories in the Marvel universe! Luke borrows one of Reed's rocket and Reed sends him on his merry way to Latvaria to go up (alone!) against possibly the baddest villain in Marvel (sorry, Thanos!) Who says Reed doesn't have a sense of humour!??
Don't forget #8 also. It's a two-parter.
Cage didn't try and shake down Dr Doom... Doom owed and ran out on a debt.
"Excuse me stewardess....I speak jive."
"The cockpit? What is it?"
@@deadNightwatchman "It's a little room at the front of the plane. But that's not important right now."
Surely you can’t be serious.
Chump don't want the help, chump don't get the help.
Proof that Luke Cage is the GOAT
Right? I mean, he beat Doc Doom on Doom's turf, with a ton of Doom henchmen. Even more significantly, if Cage were a less moral man, he could've outright KILLED Doom with a few more punches. And, needless to say, Doom ain't no C-Lister -- he's arguably the craftiest and most resilient Marvel super-baddie of them all, the man who stole the flippin' Silver Surfer's powers, for pete's sake. Now, perhaps 30 minutes after Cage's one-man invasion of Latveria begins, this rough-and-tumble New York street dude has put Victor Von Doom to the canvas so hard that he's staring the Grim Reaper in the face.
Good God, should it surprise anyone that there was never a follow-up story? Doom would have to be STUPID to mess with Cage ever, ever again.
Hell, the folks at Netflix need to do an entire series that focuses on Dr. Doom somehow accidentally crossing Luke Cage a second time, and freaking the F out about how bad things are gonna go for him this time around.
It could start like this...
"RRRRRRRRRINNNNNNNGGGGGGGG"
"Hello, Latverian royal palace, Dr. Doom speaking. Who dares disturb me?"
"Vic, this is Reed. I messed up bad. Last night, Sue and I celebrated our anniversary. I had a lot to drink and I... "
"You what?"
"I ordered 150 pizzas to be delivered to Luke Cage's office. Extra-large pizzas, with the works. Double cheese, too. Might've even sent some chicken wings. I can't remember, I was so blotto...."
"Yes, I seem to remember you doing that sort of thing when we were college roommates. So?"
"Vic, I ordered the pizzas in your name..."
(silence)
"Vic?"
(silence)
"Vic?"
Roll titles to, "PIZZA PAYBACK -- FREE DELIVERY"
Coming from a gang really was good for his character. It showed, more than ever, that anyone could be a hero no matter where they come from or what they did. But damn that money honey had me dead XD
I have this issue😂 the real funny part is: Reed didn’t even ask if Luke could fly a plane!!😂😂😂😂
Reed set the autopilot to Dooms Palace in Latveria, Luke just sat in the cockpit and contemplated beating up Doom the entire time.
Raith 😂 you’re right, but that’s even funnier!!
I remember being a kid not being able to wrap my head around that "jive talk" that was coming out of Luke's mouth!
I'm so glad you made the connection with the paperboy in "better of dead". As Luke wasted $20,000 dollars in fuel to fly to Latveria to collect $200, I just kept hearing "I want my two dollars" in my head.
"My life has meaning!" Haha, classic Chris!
A lot of the dialog and action is because the comic code authority was still in place during the time you're criticizing. They couldn't swear so they had to use creative euphemisms to express consternation and frustration. Sweet Christmas!
Y'all are looking at this "it's only $200" thing all wrong -- Cage knows that if word gets out that he let a client slide on a $200 debt, pretty soon he won't be able to count on anybody paying him anything they owe. On the other hand, once Ben and Johnny start blabbing about how Luke Cage took their plane halfway around the world to shake down Doom for a measly $200 -- and came back alive, money in hand -- everybody's gonna be scared to death of crossing him.
This particular Luke Cage story was one of my favorites growing up.
Came on this four years late. Anyone remember when Power Man ended up out of an aircraft in free fall, and managed to survive due to his "steel hard skin" and adroitly rolling down a frozen mountain?
Back when Marvel knew how to entertain with a fantastical, yet moderately plausible story.
I want my $2!
"Better Off Dead" was one of my favorite movies growing up.
Never mind the fuel of the space bus probably cost 60 grand even back in the 70's. Gotta love comics.
Very cool thank you for covering Luke Cage. You are correct about the dialogue "angry black man". Where's my money honey!!!! Also love the better off dead reference. 2 $'s. That boy on the bike was great. Love the 80's movies.
Cage comes up with a lot of these amazing expressions in a Spiderman Annual from the mid 70s, where J Jonah Jameson hires him to put the beats on Spidey. They are verbally sparring back and forth through the whole thing, and it doesn't disappoint!
$200 gets me every time, you know he's just stewing over it.
That Money Honey line made it into the second season. I love it.
The earliest mention of "Got no money, honey." Is in the 1958 (54?) Big Bopper song Chantilly Lace.
I do remember hearing it quite early.
Again, this is the earliest _I_ can find an example of that.
This is like my favorite chanel. No jivin!
LMFAO!! Great review! Think Galactus owes me 50 bucks! Christmas!
Yah, i kept musing on a series of comic stories where Cage goes around collecting money from all these wild characters like Annihilus or Kang or The Gargoyle (Dr. Tupelov).
Luke Cage is fearless, super-strong, and...really, really bad with money.
And even Dr. Doom has a cash stash of "mad money".
Marvel should've done a story with Cage going into Wakanda and meeting the Black Panther teaming up to defeat a common foe.
According to the inflation calculator, $200 in 1973 is the equivalent of $1162 today. Makes a little more sense considering Luke Cage was offered free transport to Eastern Europe. Oh, and the language and terminology was most likely held over from the 60s. since the comic was published in 1973.
Where’s my money honey🤣😂 hilarious
Put a huge smile on my face
The story reminds me of Point Blank with Lee Marvin in which he harassed an entire crime sindicate just to get back the 43 thousand dollars they owed him.
It's not about money, it's about sending a message.
Outstanding video. I remember seeing T’Challa and Reed Richards smoking cigarettes in the early days. Times have changed.
I get the feeling that they used Jimmy Walker as their inspiration for Luke's dialogue. Lol
i showed my wife a few of your vids, we laughed, this one was a crack up. your funny.
I bet Dr. Doom doesn't tip either, that bastard!
Hey, if you owe Cage, he's going to GET that money. 😎.
"The robots are being led by . . . an alien."
*Pops more popcorn.
Sweet Christmas! What a video.
"Where's my f*ck*ng money honey?!"-Chris-R.
Sweet Christmas. Marvel had very few black artists at the time. It starts out when he’s in prison for a crime he didn’t commit. Incidentally, the character changes his name once he gets out of prison who’s alias was Carl Lucas. And he chooses the name cage because at the time he spent in prison. And that outfit he’s wearing, in the Netflix airing of Luke Cage, The escape artist costume in the first issue is lampooned after he escapes in the first season. Where he says, you look like a fool. Actor Nicolas Cage credits his love for Marvel comic books as a reasoning for why he became Nicolas Cage, when he was born Nicolas Kim Coppola, the nephew of the famous movie director, Francis Ford Coppola. For reasons of nepotism, he chose the name “Cage” based off of the Luke Cage character.
10:59 from that day forward MF Doom was born
Listen, if the adversary was Galactus, Luke will find a way to get his money. It's the principle.
This story was funny as hell. This made Cage a gangsta...he deadass went got a rocket.flew overseas..rolled up on a foreign dictator and said you owe me bruh !!!
It's hilarious that Doom hires him without intending to pay him, since Doom literally has the budget of a small nation, he could write the fee off as a rounding error if he wanted to.
Then again, with him it's always the principle of the thing that counts, isn't it?
And it's the principle for Cage, hence why he is heading out to get his damn money. Doom's pride was severely damaged.
Cool video! Interesting point about white writers making black heroes of this era "angry black men." Even with the Falcon who started out has a clean cut character under Stan Lee, Steve Englehart retconned a past of him being a hustler/pimp.
Rick Remender re-retconned it to be some Cosmic Cube stuff and made Sam Wilson an upstanding guy with a tragic past.
edward2962 I think the writers were jewish, not white.
Ugh. This bullshit...
Problem with the mindset of these writers
I was fine with Luke Cage being that way, but The Falcon? That bothered me.
where is the location of the currency that i am in possession of, bee syrup?
Sweet Christmas!!! This might be the funniest thing I have ever seen. I wonder if I can find this book.
Very excellent. I guess the newspapers used teletype, just like they used to have in those days. Certainly faster than a plane or space bus. I'm glad he got his 200.00. All is right with the Universe once more...
HahA! This is some really funny stuff. I grew up reading that trope and always knew Luke Cage was funny with his "Sweet Christmas" exclamations but your vid raised thd bar on hilarity. Keep up the great work and thanks!
It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
Its helpful to remember cultural norms were different back then. Luke Cage was painted as a street thug to show anyone can change who they are and it doesn’t matter where they come from.
I think that's what people are not getting. The world was a different place back then. I grew up in the 70s and was familiar with the slang . It's somewhat exaggerated, but no different from slang rappers use now. You're right what's important is Luke Cage grew from a gangster, to a legitimate super hero over the years.
He'll always be "POWER-MAN" to me!
(Sweet Christmas)
Even funnier is that 200$ in 73 were around 1300 dollars worth today. For 1000+ dollars owed, I would fly to a forein country as well
Another groovy vid, man! I'm really loving these.
Gratitude.
Your comments at 15:50 regarding the speed at which the Daily Bugle had a front page article "Doctor Doom Retakes Power In Latveria" can be explained "No Prize" style easily enough: it is a demonstration of the power of Doom's control over the media and puppet mastering. Actually retaking power was the final checkbox on his list; Cage happened to witness that.
I would just like to point out that Luke Cage is actually drawn like a human being. In a ridiculous outfit, but so is everyone else.
Which for the time was kind of impressive.
I thought it was awesome he was a former gang member. shows he came from the streets and changed his life for the better. Great back story.
The Luke Cage Netflix series was very good. I couldn't get into the 70s comic back in the day.
Me either it was awful. My Italian buddy collected this comic & Shang-Chi....dude’s skin was actually yellow. I felt ashamed just reading it 🙄.
"Follow the path worn in stone, Cage. No one will molest you!" So... So we're just gonna pretend he didn't say that?
Stealing a high tech military jet just so you can fly across the country and steal back your $200
Nice one Luke
I read the first two volumes of the Luke Cage reprints of the Essential series. What’s also funny is Dr. Doom race checks Luke Cage, There’s a line where he says to Luke Cage, quoting “when my men reported seeing a crazy black man in the fantastic four’s craft, I knew it had to be you.”
Dude, anyone not from your era is going to sound weird. I still use a lot of the slang I grew up with from the 70's-90's. Everything back then was "bitchin'!!!"
Word.
A black guy asking for his money.Truly a classic tale.
That vine where the little kid screams "give me your fucking money"
I have the complete Luke Cage Collection and this is one of my favorite issues.
I had a beer before watching this and Chris your description of this issue had me laughing my ass off! Bravo! :)
That damn punching game at Dorky's ... I did mess up my elbow hitting it against something back there.
The pursuit of $200 is a ridiculous side story in My Cousin Vinny too! 🤣
Luke Cage is one of my favorite heroes, but this comic..."Where's my money, honey?" Seriously. Whole thing's funny and unfunny at the same time. At least, Marvel incorporated black characters. Though, I can see where Dwayne McDuffie got his idea for his joke pitch of Teenage Negro Ninja Thrashers.
Sweet Christmas!, they laid some of the blaxploitation tropes heavy in Luke's 70s run.
Its also interesting that Cage once pushed Daredevil on his secret ID, but he himself still goes by Luke Cage instead of Carl Lucas.
“You picked the wrong house fool”
Man you crack me up! I could watch you comment comics all day (but i have to work lol) Keep this good stuff comin'. Thx!
It’s pretty convenient how Doctor Doom keeps petty cash in a wooden box in his throne room....jus sayin!
to be fair that is about 1300usd in now money X'''D i'd be pissed too
Actually, the amount is closer to 650 dollars American in today's cash, but either way when adjusted for inflation it does make a lot more sense that he was angry 😂😂
That was never Dr.Doom. It was a Doom-bot. Doom would never demean himself by giving up his $200 clams
You better have my money - Luke
Luke wants his two hundred bucks from Dr. Doom? I can't believe they used the same plot for a Bruce Willis movie. Must have been been a good idea, to be used to make a millon dollar movie.
You're thinking of the Mel Gibson movie, "Payback." I'm pretty sure that the Luke Cage story and the Mel Gibson movie are both inspired by a 1967 Lee Marvin film, "Point Blank."
I just imagine this whole thing happened to a Doombot and not the real Doom
Better than being defeated by a gang of squirrels.
I remember reading this when I was younger in a reprint Essential. Even then, I was like "He's going through all this trouble for $200?"
Stiffing someone $200 bucks sounds more like an MF DOOM thing not a DR.Doom thing lol
Dude, the whole 1st half or so I was thinking about Better Off Dead. The paperboy bit is one of my favorites in any movie.
In today's money, $200 from 1970s is worth $1000
I was an early teen in the '70s when Luke Cage burst on the scene. We, my fellow collectors and I, didn't put too much stock into the phony jive talk. It was what it was. We were excited to have him.
Luke established his all star superhero status by crushing Powerman for the rights to use the name and for fighting the RWS group the Sons of the Serpent by himself before he ran into the Defenders who teamed with him for the takedown. Despite the lame dialogue at the time he is among the finest of heroes.
I recently reflected how it seems that every decade there are creators who use hip, modern slang- or what they think is hip, modern slang- because they think, "This will show the young people we're hip and then they'll buy/watch our comics/TV show/other piece of media!" What happens is the young people feel they're trying too hard and the works become dated very quickly (Shoot, sometimes the work is dated by the time it's released. Think of when 2016 Power Puff Girls used memes).
Could we get something like this about the time Moon knight called out dracula for his money?
OMG, I hadn't read this one... I have rarely laughed so hard... thanks man. Just WOW
That rocket ship and the fuel probably cost Reed Richards a couple million dollars. Why couldn't he just pay Luke Cage the $200? And for that matter, Dr. Doom was probably out several million dollars with all that silly shit he had going on. You know what? I think maybe Reed and Doom are both just dicks.
EDIT: And as for the news hitting the Daily Bugle, telephones are faster than planes.
How did the news get out in time for Luke to get back?
Doom has a time machine, and an ego the size of Manhattan?
I really laughed at this video, it’s one of my favorites, keep going 🙏🏻
Thats gangster Sweating Dr Doom over some pocket change
I think you're treating this comic and Luke cage unfairly, man just got out of prison and was trying to clear his name and get money by being a hero for hire. He does this because he needs the money to survive
You giving a man a million dollar jet to collect $200...lol.
All I could picture was black dynamite 😭😂😂
LOL Awesome! Need more like this.
In fairness, the Comics Code Authority wouldn't permit actual New York street language.
Yeah, I've always envisioned Luke saying something that concludes with a twelve-letter word that starts with "m," not "honey."
@@reprintranch Manufacturer?