Doctor REACTS to BOJACK HORSEMAN | Psychiatrist Analyzes "The Face of Depression" | Dr Elliott
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Bojack is THE most accurate depiction of mental illness in the media BY FAR. I'm analysing The Face of Depression (Season 6 Ep 7) and discuss what depression is, treatments including antidepressants and certain types of therapy, treatment for addiction and much more. Let me know what you think!
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"Depression is good for creativity" ─ So, one reason I dropped off of author twitter and author groups on facebook is the low-key but constant glamorization of mental unwellness. According to social media, "real writers" (don't you just _love_ that term) are supposed to be caffeine-addicted, anxiety-ridden emotional trainwrecks who are constantly suffering. Thankfully it washes off of me in my late 30's, but I can't imagine that atmosphere being helpful for teens.
That's one of my favorite things about Diane's arc. Yes she was a writer before going on antidepressants; but, she truly found her voice once she took care of her mental health. Her writing and creativity didn't suffer, it only became better.
This was a fear for me, as a creative, artsy person. Depression can be a source of ideas. However, it takes away the motivation to actually work on those ideas, or the ability to sustain focus on them long enough to realise their potential. Then if you do get started, the self-doubting, hyper-critical eugh of it all means that you scrap good work because you think it sucks and you suck, and you don’t share what you create with anyone.
I’ve found that when I’m depressed, I don’t create much - because why bother? When I’m starting to feel better I can actually take those experiences, thoughts, and feelings and make something meaningful and even beautiful out of them.
Or they are freaks "from other worlds" that are basically dangerous to society and themselves
For a lot of writers, it's true though. It's not necessary, since in order to be a real writer you must ...write, but it's a common experience.
Is it so much that it's glamorized, or that it's acknowledged as a shared experience? Pretending something doesn't exist serves honest purpose in one's life. Often it takes one less than perfectly worded sentence in a statement in order to allow misinterpretation that gets unjustly applied as a standard narrative validated by those who have a predisposition towards one state of belief.
"Narcissist? I thought the painting was about me!" I died.
You're dead right about masking. Every time a friend has confided that they're anxious or depressed, it's come as a surprise. There was a guy working at my local supermarket who everyone loved because of his big friendly smile and equally big friendly personality, and none of us knew he was the least bit depressed until a few weeks ago when he took his own life. 😔
It’s so tragic when it happens that way, because when people mask, you really have no way of knowing if they need help or not. They go out of their way to present a different face to everyone. It’s probably the same reason why people are shocked when funny celebrities commit suicide or self-harm, because they seem so happy on the outside, but on the inside they’re waging a war (R.I.P. Robin Williams).
"Dawson's Creek was slightly before my time" ouch, I feel attacked 😂😂
Same here.
Bojack is such a special and complex show and watching you unpack these videos is so helpful in understanding my own experiences with depression. Thank you.
I’m currently stuck in the “why bother” phase of depression. Hearing a professional call it out as a symptom makes me feel so much less alone with my thoughts. Sometimes you know they’re not true but they’re hard to fight against on your own.
Love when you do Bojack. Please cover the episode "Good Damage." It's Diane's equivalent to the episode "Stupid Piece of Sh*t."
I genuinely wish Amy Tran Food Court Detective was a real book series. :P
@@nataliereed4238 , isn't it "Ivy Tran"?
Psychiatric drugs in the veterinary world is a huge thing! We use mirtazapine as an appetite stimulant in cats, fluoxetine for anxiety in dogs, trazodone to help calm dogs down as needed, gabapentin to calm cats down as needed, and more!
When I worked for a doggie daycare, one of the bigger dogs that would come in daily was on Prozac, I never saw him myself not on it, but according to the owner, he was much better than before he was on it.
Mirtazapine is the greatest drug ever. I took it for sleep and it felt like it was the first time I've ever had a full night of sleep. Took it for years and it never caused long term problems, no tolerances, no side effects.
I also gave some to my dad when he had cancer for the reason you stated - it significantly increases appetite while at the same time it calms nerves. I saw him losing weight like crazy and shaking, so I gave him one. He ate some food then slept great. Sadly, doctors in my area are evil beyond belief and refuse to give mirtazapine to people like him who actually need it for things like appetite while they are dying. Deep down, I think a lot of doctors are jerking off while thinking about how much patients are suffering as they die; it is the only possible explanation for their reluctance to give such a safe medication.
My dog was prescribed Prozac for his aggression.
Love your Bojack videos! I recommend the episode Good Damage, which is a sort of follow-up episode about Diane’s depression.
it's so relatable
I started therapy half a year ago and found out I've been having depression for a really long time. Most people in my life I have casually told about it and they've been shocked to hear that, but I'm just really indifferent about it because it's been my life for like 3 years so I don't really understand what is me and what is the depression anymore (I'm 20 so what a start at adult life!) . I think people expect me to be more shocked amd disturbed by the diagnosis and probably find it unsettling how open I talk about it xD
Perfect timing for a Dr. Elliot bojack episode
I'd love to see you react to Arcane at some point, as one of the main characters has some of the hallmarks for schizophrenia and Borderline Personality Disorder, which (from what I've been told) is portrayed surprisingly realistically, given the fantasy setting of the show itself.
YES, I’d love to see his thoughts on jinx
Did you notice the honeydew? I absolutely adore that little detail. Ever since season one there was this running joke about how BoJack hates honeydew and is angry every time it's offered. I believe it's in the very final episode that he actually tries honeydew and decides it's "huh, not bad". Yes, I'm sucker for metaphors and symbols :D
I believe I had a depression-like (couple years long) episode in my twenties. I don't know what the proper diagnose would be because I visited a specialist exactly once. I really didn't like this person and I knew it's normal and I just need to try someone else I feel more comfortable with. I just couldn't bring myself to go through all the hassle again. In general, I avoided leaving my room as much as I could. I would use kitchen and bathroom mostly at night when other people were asleep. Leaving the house altogether felt like an expedition. Just putting on my bra and some normal clothes was a challenge. Going to a new and unfamiliar place was mostly terryfing. Having to arrange a meeting was... well, it had always been hard to me, even now, perfectly happy with my life and managing it, things like making an arrangement to see a doctor always require an amount of conscious effort I don't feel an adult should experience. In those years it was a truly herculean effort. So if I called a relative for recommendations, then called first name on the list, made an appointment, did my hair and dressed up, left the house and made sure to be on time, found an unknow address, and sat one hour with (in my opinion) a judgemental stranger... Doing the same with the second name I had on that list (there were three recommended people in total) was just so overwhelming I never brought myself to dial the number. Plus there was an irrational fear I will need to explain why I wasn't happy with the previous person and then I will look judgemental.
I'm going on this rant because many of my friends disliked Guy and the way he was "pestering" Diane. They were saying she needs to make the decision herself when she's ready and so on. Yeah, maybe I was projecting my own circumstances but I think person with depression often needs a little push. I really needed and after I got better I was a little resentful that my family didn't help me. I know it was simply because they simply didn't know what was it exactly that I needed. Plus my mother might have been low-key prejudiced against mental health specialists.
My point is: People often don't appreciate how crippling this low-energy aspect can be.
That's my favorite episode EVER! It's so reliefing see Bojack in a health lifestyle for the 1st time... So powerful 🤍
Sober Bojack was my favorite Bojack. Season 6 was perfect ❤
You are awesome but I didn't realize how much I needed to hear your take on this. Thank you for all you do.
I actually suffer from Generalized Anxiety Disorder and have panic attacks that are more frequent than normal (i.e. I don't get them every day but it's not uncommon to get them multiple times a year). I'm also prescribed an SSRI for it and from my experience the medication isn't meant to get away the symptoms but just to make it possible to manage them. Therapy, I've found, is important to do with the medicine as well. I also think we need to discuss more about depression and anxiety in men and to take away that stigma for men that it's somehow weak to seek help or treatment for anxiety/ depression. A lot of times I wonder if the difference in the statistics is more so due to men not reporting their anxiety and depression. I realize they're different disorders, but they're also very similar. It's the difference between hopelessness and helplessness.
Thanks for making clear how serious major depressive "illness" is and a reality. . Tragic for sufferer. Psycho-Social depressions can slide into manifesting some of the biological features. However anhedonia is, as witnessed by self, is grim.
Always lovely to hear your thoughts on my favorite and most... Personally meaningful show!
Very much looking forward to 'Good Damage' coming up as well, its a fantastic look at the myth of depression 'fueling better art' as well as something that helped my BPD roommate to brake down in tears because of how humanly seen it allowed her to feel.
doc, are you doing "Good Damage" episode?
You should check out “Undone” it’s done by a lot of the same people who did Bojack and covers generational trauma. I was a little worried where they were going with season 2 that mental illness was something magical but they brought it right back home. Very interesting view on Schizophrenia and trauma. Plus the use of rotoscope animation is great. I cried a lot through that like I did Bojack when you get smacked with a few realities.
Where can I watch this?
@@lydiacochrane706 I watched it through Amazon Prime. It’s fantastic. The main character (who is deaf/hoh) gets in a car accident and starts seeing her dead father. So we see both her interacting with her father who is trying to get her to go back in time and stop his death and her family seeing her having these erratic behaviours. Written in a way you don’t know which side is true but remains honest about conversations of mental health. Also plays with the thought of - what would you do if you could go back and correct all the bad things? Would it make everything better? Would you be happy? I’m super excited for season 3 though seeing they use rotoscope (it’s acted and then illustrated over) it’s going to take awhile. Plus I would love a react like this video on some of the episodes that hit in the mental health and generational trauma (season 2) aspects. I was a little worried they were going down the people with mental health are just misunderstood and have magic powers but it’s defiantly not that and the longer narrative really works well - especially where they opened up season 3s arc for.
Yes, I cannot recommend Undone enough.
I really love your Bojack reactions, it's my favorite show and it's really interesting to hear some of your insights
I love ur Bojack videos this is what I needed today
Haha, love you covering The Face of Depression. Joey Pogo and Mr. PB mutually gaslighting themselves is one of the funniest parts of the episode. Glad to hear more about SSRIs and why you can gain weight with them. It's good to know not many of them can make you gain weight, and because you're not depressed anymore you get back your appetite.
A good follow up episode to this is Good Damage. It's the Diane version of Bojack's Piece of Sh*t
You may never see this, but channels like yours help me, deeply.
Common as it is, yes, I’m one of those with chronic depression (about 13 years now) who puts off therapy again and again.
Then I find channels like yours and come to understand mental disorders more. It helps. That’s all I can say. Thank you. ❤
Great video as usual, I would love to see one about "Good damage", it helped me a lot personally.
as a bojack fan it hurt to see you skip over the honeydew joke, probably the best set-up for it in the entire series 😂
as a fan of your videos, fantastic work. you help people feel valid and less alone.
Love the bojack episode. Would you consider doing the episode “good damage”
I absolutely love Bojack and your reactions to it❤can't wait for you to cover more episodes! I have depression, GAD, and possibly cptsd; I'm attending therapy and taking my meds for almost two years, but the recovery is very hard esp for someone living with these conditions their entire life, and this show is somehow soothing and making me feel less alone and more understood, although in some painful and sad way
I keep getting distracted by your Lego Pride flag display because my most recent housemates had it too. :P
Love your bojack reactions. I think it’s time to go back and rewatch
I was prescribed Paxil when I was 12 because of depression and anxiety, I gained over 100 pounds in 6 months. I switched to a different type and lost a good amount of weight but it’s now still a struggle to keep it off
I went through a phase in which I had two emotional traumas and two physical traumas. I gave up and ate a lot. I put on 80 pounds.
The medicine greatly reduced thoughts of suicide but did nothing about the weight.
Happily I started therapy with a new therapist and was able to find a new doctor (who read me the riot act about my blood sugar).
She got me to walking 20 minutes a day and eating lots of fruit. The therapist laid the groundwork of my understanding the problems.
I am pleased to report that I've lost 60 pounds in the last fourteen months, and my self-critical voice is quiet for long stretches of time.
It took longer than I wished, but I am starting to feel that I'm in a good place. Yea!
@@auldthymer that’s great! I work in a bakery and I’m not a huge sweet person but once a month my sweet tooth hits like a truck lol
That's why I don't take medication. Gained about 20 pounds on that stuff they gave me at 14. Was in the 90lb range then went into 115lbs or so. Not much, but my family wouldn't stop it with the "you're so fat" thing. It's noticeable when you're short. Throwing the pills away made it melt off faster than all the situps, steamed veggies, green tea, and makeshift waist trainers. They freaked, said I'd get worse but it was fear mongering.
I would be interested in seeing your thoughts on Next to Normal, a musical about a family where the wife struggles with mental issues.. perhaps specifically the song Who's Crazy/My Psychopharmacologist and I
Excited to see another Bojack video. Thanks for the wonderful content, as always. ❤
i wish you react to soooooo much more episodes!! there are many jems and i love hearing from you. i learned a lot from this show but when you break things down it helps even more, i send all the Bojack videos from your channel to friends that straggling (sorry for the spelling im not American) thank you
Great reaction! This was a really good episode! I liked how it talks about the topic.
From personal experience, Diane's reluctance to take the antidepressants ("What if you flip over the nothing, and all that's underneath it is more nothing?") might not be anhedonia or even hopelessness as such, but might also be the fear that they won't work, that maybe she can't be fixed. Maybe for her, refusing meds but knowing they are an option gives her hope, but she is too scared to take them in case they don't work and even that small hope of a better life is gone. You can sometimes feel that you need the hope, more than you need the help, if that makes any sense.
I love Bojack, but also i love your talking... Not just your speciality and passion but also your kindness, happiness. Thanks for the video
With how good you analyze the mental complexities in Bojack, I feel like another show that would be great to see you analyze would be moral Orel. The show does not begin to display mental health issues until season 3 of the show, but many of the complexities seen are similar to the ones seen in Bojack, and it would be great to see how a medical professional would react to what is seen in the show.
PS also want to let you know how great your content is! Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your videos they're really fun to watch:]
I love ur bojack videos sm, i really hope you'll react to the episode 'good damage' in the future
I have bipolar 1, and also used to fit the criteria for BPD, but through therapy I don’t fit the criteria anymore. I find that a lot of people with bipolar I’ve met are always creatives, but I’m not at all
You ever thought of doing an analysis of Inside Out? Also I really recommend Tuca and Bertie
Amazing video as always! I don't usually make suggestions or requests on videos but if you're interested in how therapy is tackled in adult cartoons, I'd recommend Self Medication from The Venture Brothers! It's certainly aged differently, but there's a lot to unpack in it.
I love all of your BoJack videos! I hope we could have a reaction to View from Halfway Down
I've been seeking treatment with Wellbutrin for nine weeks. I've never felt better. I was against it and reluctant for many years. This channel and a couple of others moved me in a different direction. Thanks Doc!
I just happened to see you in my recommended videos. I have recently dived into my own mental health, and I'm a huge fan of BoJack Horseman, so I watched all your reaction videos to the show in one sitting. I hope to see more, especially since I only just finished it. Interested to know your insights on the episodes leading up to the end and the ending itself. I'm interested to know if you've watched all of it and if so, your thoughts on the rest of it. I noticed in the rehab episode you didn't mention anything about BoJack seeing the galaxy pattern in the alcohol, so that made me wonder if you knew the reason. In any case, you have a new fan, and I hope to see more BoJack reaction videos!
Great video. I hope you also do one on Good Damage, it's such a good episode.
Yeeeeees I love your reactions to Bojack!!
I really needed this wow. Words cant express how much… well at least in these comments ima journal ab this but damn this was a cathardic watch ty
Can’t wait for your video on “good damage”
Can you cover an episode of Private Practice? The first episode has a weird example of a psychotic break.
The view from halfway down had me bawling man I hope you watch that episode
The baby's name is Ruthie. Princess Carolyn called her that because motherhood is a "ruthless" job.
The baby was originally named "Untitled Princess Carolyn Project" lol
I have to keep recommending “The View From Halfway Down”
Excellent video reaction to a masterpiece of a show
Love the new video
as always, really good vid and explanations! this may sound weird but I would love for you to do an analysis on the game Night in the Woods. You don't need to buy and play it yourself, but you could just watch a let's play on YT. the main character Mae goes through some serious mental issues and it's all wrapped in mystery. And, if nothing else, the game has probably the most cute queer couple in game history. but seriously, Mae is super interesting and I would love to hear your look at her. lots of love
My fav episodes
I hope you react to good damage! It's personally my favourite episode just because of how I relate to it, and it involves more discussion about SSRIs & withdrawal
Fun fact, Pavlov actually never used a bell, that's a myth. He used a lot of things including a tone, but never a bell. Another fun video. If you're looking for any Xmas themed stuff to react to may I suggest "Mixed Nuts"? Its an old Steve Martin movie and it's fantastic. Steve talks me down every season. 10/10 recommend!
Hey Dr. Elliott, I was wondering if you might be considering a video on the horrible outing of Kit Connor. I'd be interested in your thoughts, as I know I have many.
What's your opinion about it? 👀
@@user00688 What a terrible way to treat a teenager.
@@user00688 If you're asking for my personal opinion, I had assumed Kit was bisexual having seen him around and in interviews. There is a huge difference between hiding and not being open and out. Kit doesn't seem like he was hiding, but he wasn't ready to talk about it yet with millions of people. It seems like most of his costars already knew, given their responses to his tweet.
He should have been given the time and space to come out on his own terms when he was ready and this idea of "queer-baiting" is nonsense. Save this kind of crap for politicians who are harming the community, not a kid still trying to figure out his place in the world.
i think you should really watch the episode good damage, its all about diane and her struggles and i feel like you'll enjoy talking about it!
Shout out to cheddar gorgeous in the background lol
13:27
you would be surprised what the baby's original name was.
Hi Elliott! I'm a researcher and my research is about internalised ableism. I understand you're very busy, but if you're able to, I'm intrigued by what you said about compassion-centred therapy as a treatment for internalised homophobia and if you know of any other approaches to easing internalised oppression?
I’m on mirtazapine , I’m glad the weight gain isn’t much at all
James Somerton recently did a video on what lead to gay men's body image crisis and why it perpetuates today. James does exclusively queer media content and I think people who got something out of this body image discussion in this would like not only that video, but his content overall
Mr doctor, please ask your patients how well they sleep before you give them any antidepressants. SSRI drugs like fluoxetine and sertraline absolutely destroy your sleep. If you were already an insomniac, those drugs make it 100x worse. I've had great success with fluoxetine and sertraline, but only when taken with mirtazapine because mirtazapine is a hardcore sleep inducing drug that could take down a manic elephant.
Doctors in my area started being total douchebags about giving out mirtazapine or any TCAs, so the lack of sleep forced me to stop taking fluoxetine or sertraline. I wish I could still take them, but I can't because the government and Canadian doctors are evil. Coincidentally, the time they stopped giving out sleep-inducing antidepressants was around the same time the government started prescribing MAID (suicide) as a valid treatment for depression. I hate this country so much.
And yes you are correct that mirtazapine causes weight gain. I gained about 30 pounds. It was totally worth it; being a bit fat but feeling good is vastly superior to being skinny but hating life.
Off topic but I need to know your skincare routine
I don't know why but when I was on my antidepressants I actually lost weight?
02:36-02:40 that face is perfect
You should checkout This Is Us. Lots of mental health, family relationships stuff.
Love you more!
Ughhh I’m on fluoxetine and it does not work 😭
Please review good damage!!
Okay, yeah, I'm definitely depressed.
Shit.
“Dawsons Creek did not get bad”
Translation: Dawsons Creek was always bad
I used to take quetiapin in order to help with my intense mood swings from cptsd and borderline. And noone ever really explained how these types of medication work. Could you do something like this in the future? It's really interesting and i wish someone would have explained it to me at that time. I feel like i got a little more insight in this video and would like to understand more.
New to this. Does Bojack ever deal with internalized homophobia?
I think the only times the show really explores that is with Bojacks dad.
Ruthie. The kid's name is Ruthie.
"Dawson's Creek is a bit before my time." Really? Sigh. Now I'm depressed.
These videos are my drug addiction
You know doesn't that just life generally sounds you find nothing or time to find something and not just life in general though that could be wrong but isn't that just life in general you know somebody find something our time to find nothing bye
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Depression!
Lucky man. Dawson's Creek was a terrible show. Two sisters watching it was awful. Great video by the way!
For the gifted (I hate that word,) traditional therapy is wholly inappropriate. Not only won't it help, it's likely to do more harm. (There's an entire book on this subject, titled "Misdiagnosed.") I only found this out at 52, after a lifetime of wasting money, time, and energy only getting worse and worse. The specialists gifted people need are exceedingly rare, however (I have no access to one, myself,) so good luck with that. We struggle in relationships, too, so forget having a support structure around you. On the plus side, if you're Canadian, soon you can request euthanasia for mental infirmities.
Heads up! Most antidepressants are also ototoxic--they damage the ears. After a lifetime on these, not only do I still have severe depression, but also tinnitus that makes me want to scream every waking moment of my life. Oh goody!
I feel like you used this episode to give us a psychology lecture. This wasn't a reaction video.