This machine is such a beast, ever since switching to this, I’ve been able to do everything and bring it to a whole different level. The machine is almost weightless and has a really tight grip. For around $400 you get everything you need from a tattoo machine, lining, packing, and shading. I have the 4.2 mm stroke which is a stronger hit and something I prefer more.
Awesome video! It’s a great machine feels great in the hand now I do agree with the battery touch screen feature but definitely not a deal breaker for me. For only 400 dollars you get a quality machine that can line, color pack, and shade. Definitely recommend to anyone who is looking to upgrade and also not spend a thousand dollars on a machine. Also Element tattoo supply has definitely become my favorite supply store to order from they are very professional and always get my order from CA to TX in less than 3 days. Much love to those guys out there Bobby is a great dude, and also Tyler for posting this review on this machine.
I used a xnet blade while my sol nova unlimited was being repaired and I have to say I really do like the xnet blade.but this machine is on my list to try definitely.i just really like my sol nova unlimited,and a few other machines.as always great review and keep them comen.
I love your reviews Tyler. You are the most honest for reviews on CZcams! I do have a question but not about this machine. It's time for me to get something of quality I spoke to you before about this and we narrowed it down for me between the axis Valhalla and the Vlad. I'm leaning towards the Valhalla. My question is if you choose to go wireless say with the critical battery packs on the Valhalla how does it feel? Being the machine is a little longer than the average small pens. Which I like being longer. Or should I go with FK Irons battery. So basically that's my concern down the road using it wirelessly if you can shed some light on that and give me your honest opinion I would greatly appreciate it. Oh are there any groupings the Valhalla had issues pushing like say a 18rl? Thank you Tyler. As always much much RESPECT!
Hey ! So the Valhalla with a battery compared to other pens is very tall which can be straining on your hand. I prefer other pens when it comes to wireless. Unless you have a battery that hangs off the back and not straight up.
Hi, I have some question. Can I use this machine lining and shading ( 2 in 1 )? I don’t have experience with Tattoo. But i would like to try. Thank you
Very nice video! I have this machine for a couple of months now, and I’m quite happy with its performance -I sold my previous Cheyenne pen and I stick to this one. About the way you wrap this machine in plastic, isn’t it hard or nearly impossible to turn the grip when the machine is covered that way?
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thank you for your response. Yes, I cover the grip area with wrap tape and overlapping the area it has to turn. I think I pretty much tried the way you did in the video, but for some reason the plastic gives me some tension and I cannot turn the grip properly 🤔
It depends on how your hand works/ what kind of needles you are using/ what part of the body you are on and other factors. Not really a cut and dry answer honestly
I’m not sure what motor it has honestly, the link for the product page is in the video description. And if it needs to be repaired you would end up sending it back to the company
Hey man. Love your reviews. I’m about to pull the trigger on an Avenger 2 pro. I was wondering if you use it with battery pack and how well it runs with them? Also are you still rating it highly? (I’ve watched your reviews on it) I currently have a bishop Wand Packer that I use for everything and it’s awesome. But looking for something to do soft shading and bold lines because the Packer does everything between those awesomely. Thanks for any help. Cheers!
Hey thanks ! The avenger 2 pro is my favorite machine still by far. I don’t use battery packs on it but you can. It could just sometimes get in the way depending on which one you have
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the reply. I know they are currently trialling a wireless version of this machine. Looks a bit wider as it has battery pack inside it. Will be interested to see how that goes
No problem! And I have only used the wand liner. They both have the same stroke, but the motors are different. It might be slightly better just because it’s a better quality but over all I like the harder hit for bigger liners
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial packer is 4,2 stroke, but same motor. Sorry to be the correctional nerd. *putting my glasses* but yeah id ageee. Bishop motor is supersmooth.
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Totally man! Not gonna lie, I'm pretty terrified of using a 5 stroke machine, even when it's pushing larger liners. Right now I'm between the Bishop Packer and the Ava EP7+, I think where I'm at in my career, the EP7 seems to be insanely good value for what it is. T-Tech also have a new membrane capillary cartridge, and I'm loving them - less worries about cross contamination. The new membrane is also square, so it stops a bit of the internal needle rotation that can happen based on the physics of rotaries pushing from a circular motion around the motor (the way the cam spins)
In the video you said you would put a discount code for this machine in the description. When I follow the link to element tattoo supply the price isn’t discounted. I can’t seem to find a code either, is it not there or am I missing something? Sorry to complain, also thank you for the great videos!
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the speedy response, but the link isn’t applying any discount for me, I’ve checked on three separate devices now. Is it possible that the link doesn’t work for people out side of the states? Canada specifically? I’m sure you’ve got better things to do than dealing with CZcams complaints, but I’m incredibly cheap and poor so a discount would be cool haha.
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the reply. I’m from Italy and element tattoo are quiet expensive on shipping worldwide. So I’m trying to find another website in the EU and machine that’s roughly the same price to start with 😉
Great video thanks! I actually just received mine today, what sort of voltage were you using for lining/ colour packing with it? I have had a play but can't seem to find a sweet spot. Any help would be appreciated!
sold this machine to a coworker at my studio, did not get the adaptors, nor the extra battery. after 8 months to a year of use, the battery died and i got the bishop liner while waiting for the replacement battery. took 4 months to get that, and the new one died on my coworker after ish the same amount of time. the touch is terrible, and under the cover its holes with springs, that if one button is not working one can fuck with the springs in said buttons hole, and it might work again. seemed unreliable so i moved on. performance is good, but all the fuzz was a bummer. i really liked the old ep 7, it had buttons(that sucked their own way) but that one is still going strong in the hands of another coworker. been using ava for 3 years now and 3/5 machines have failed to the point of me moving on. this is all hidden behind the price. good when they work, sadly they tend to break :( could not be happier with my vlad blad avenger 2 pro and bishop liner wand. With that I´ve got an Ava maxon for backup shader.
Ah that sucks. Thankfully you don’t have to break the bank for one of them. It’s definitely not one of my main use machines. I throw it in rotation here and there. But agreed the wand liner and VB avenger 2 have my heart still lol
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial yeah, for sure dude. Was kinda hoping a review of this machine/brand would cross your path. it sure is great when new. but ive tried the gt-smart, ep7, ep7+ and the ava maxon(only one still going) although i got two ava batteries (first gen ones with buttons). they do last me around 9 hours on the wand. buuut they charge with micro usb.... 70$ a pop, so i cant complain there. was in contact with ava a while, while waiting for the battery fix, and figured out the leads on the wires inside are rubbish. changed them out, tightened a few odd screws and dang that ep7 ran like a chainsaw. would like more ava batteries with buttons and usb-c, since they do last so long. but a boy can hope, am i right.. probably going critical battery set, if im not tempted to go back in time with the chords. recently tried a cheyenne thunder, and damn that shit was crazy good. so im back drooling for yet another toy..
@@SindreThePunk I’ve been using the critical batteries over a year now and they are great. Pricy but worth it for sure. I’m always wanting new gear so I feel you there haha
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial after the bleak mid winter, when everything is aligned, i will indeed get them. But the ava batties work fine. Only shitty thing is no % view and micro usb charging. Since being comfortable with vb avenger 2, and the cable again, im admittedly drooling a littlle over the cheyenne thunder tho. 4mm stroke stronger motor in the newest ones. WHEN WILL THIS ADDICTION END!?
Sooo.....if your not going to use it very often.....or you have copious amounts of tattoo pens just laying around.....you know. Extra clutter. No one wants that. Sooooo can I have one....please. Pretty please. I'll be your friend....but seriously can I have one...
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Nice toy…👌 If Ultron got some weak points , I would say that would be the lines ( even they are ok, but max 7RL )….Ultron 2 is perfect Machine without any weakness ( got stronger motor than the first Ultron )……If you are fan of Avenger 2 pro ( and I know you are ) you will love Ultron 2…🤙
This machine is such a beast, ever since switching to this, I’ve been able to do everything and bring it to a whole different level. The machine is almost weightless and has a really tight grip. For around $400 you get everything you need from a tattoo machine, lining, packing, and shading. I have the 4.2 mm stroke which is a stronger hit and something I prefer more.
How does this compare to the mast archer?
Purchased this machine from Element Tattoo and by a long shot one of my favorite machines. She hits hard and smooth!
I was pleasantly surprised as well!
Awesome video! It’s a great machine feels great in the hand now I do agree with the battery touch screen feature but definitely not a deal breaker for me. For only 400 dollars you get a quality machine that can line, color pack, and shade. Definitely recommend to anyone who is looking to upgrade and also not spend a thousand dollars on a machine. Also Element tattoo supply has definitely become my favorite supply store to order from they are very professional and always get my order from CA to TX in less than 3 days. Much love to those guys out there Bobby is a great dude, and also Tyler for posting this review on this machine.
Agreed! It’s definitely a great deal. Element has been super professional and open to my honest opinion. Glad to be able to collab with them!
I used a xnet blade while my sol nova unlimited was being repaired and I have to say I really do like the xnet blade.but this machine is on my list to try definitely.i just really like my sol nova unlimited,and a few other machines.as always great review and keep them comen.
now ava have ep9 with liner and shader mode.
Got one of these from element and love it! Wish I could have got the green.
im using it and i love it❤
The price is reasonable but still high for this style machine.
I love your reviews Tyler. You are the most honest for reviews on CZcams! I do have a question but not about this machine. It's time for me to get something of quality I spoke to you before about this and we narrowed it down for me between the axis Valhalla and the Vlad. I'm leaning towards the Valhalla. My question is if you choose to go wireless say with the critical battery packs on the Valhalla how does it feel? Being the machine is a little longer than the average small pens. Which I like being longer. Or should I go with FK Irons battery. So basically that's my concern down the road using it wirelessly if you can shed some light on that and give me your honest opinion I would greatly appreciate it. Oh are there any groupings the Valhalla had issues pushing like say a 18rl? Thank you Tyler. As always much much RESPECT!
Hey ! So the Valhalla with a battery compared to other pens is very tall which can be straining on your hand. I prefer other pens when it comes to wireless. Unless you have a battery that hangs off the back and not straight up.
And as far as pushing groupings the Valhalla did well. The vlad does much better tho
Hi, I have some question. Can I use this machine lining and shading ( 2 in 1 )? I don’t have experience with Tattoo. But i would like to try.
Thank you
Very nice video! I have this machine for a couple of months now, and I’m quite happy with its performance -I sold my previous Cheyenne pen and I stick to this one. About the way you wrap this machine in plastic, isn’t it hard or nearly impossible to turn the grip when the machine is covered that way?
Hey thanks!
And the way I wrap it it’s very easy to turn the grip.
Are you wrapping it in grip tape and over lapping the area it needs to turn ?
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thank you for your response. Yes, I cover the grip area with wrap tape and overlapping the area it has to turn. I think I pretty much tried the way you did in the video, but for some reason the plastic gives me some tension and I cannot turn the grip properly 🤔
The unio is the machine that needs some reviews
I’ll have to check it out!
What is the best voltage for shading with this machine
It depends on how your hand works/ what kind of needles you are using/ what part of the body you are on and other factors. Not really a cut and dry answer honestly
Nice review. Does all cartridge needles fit the machine?
Thanks ! They should.
mine doesn't have the 2nd battery & rca adapter, is this different ep7+ version ?
What is your camera ? The quality is so good
It’s the Sony a7iv. I have a couple others I use but that’s my main one
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Thanks, that's what you use for shooting your tattoos ?
@@KiiNouNyaaa it depends on what I’m doing. Sometimes I’m lazy and use my phone or my other cameras but the a7iv is my preferred camera
Quick question…just bought it the batteries came at 99% do istill follow instructions and charge for 5 hours ?
That’s a question for Ava I honestly have no idea lol
Does it have a brushed motor?? Have you had to replace it yet and goes much are the parts
I’m not sure what motor it has honestly, the link for the product page is in the video description.
And if it needs to be repaired you would end up sending it back to the company
How are you able to change the dept of the needle with having the whole thing covered in one piece? It's hard to twist the grip like that isn't it?
No it’s not difficult. Just turn it like you would without the wrap on.
You could wrap it other ways to make it easier but that’s the quick was to wrap it and it doesn’t make it so much easier to make it worth it honestly
Hey man. Love your reviews. I’m about to pull the trigger on an Avenger 2 pro. I was wondering if you use it with battery pack and how well it runs with them? Also are you still rating it highly? (I’ve watched your reviews on it) I currently have a bishop Wand Packer that I use for everything and it’s awesome. But looking for something to do soft shading and bold lines because the Packer does everything between those awesomely. Thanks for any help. Cheers!
Hey thanks !
The avenger 2 pro is my favorite machine still by far. I don’t use battery packs on it but you can. It could just sometimes get in the way depending on which one you have
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the reply. I know they are currently trialling a wireless version of this machine. Looks a bit wider as it has battery pack inside it. Will be interested to see how that goes
Thanks for this man. Do you figure that a Bishop Wand Packer would push the bigger groupings better than this would, or about the same?
No problem! And I have only used the wand liner. They both have the same stroke, but the motors are different. It might be slightly better just because it’s a better quality but over all I like the harder hit for bigger liners
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial packer is 4,2 stroke, but same motor. Sorry to be the correctional nerd. *putting my glasses* but yeah id ageee. Bishop motor is supersmooth.
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Totally man! Not gonna lie, I'm pretty terrified of using a 5 stroke machine, even when it's pushing larger liners. Right now I'm between the Bishop Packer and the Ava EP7+, I think where I'm at in my career, the EP7 seems to be insanely good value for what it is. T-Tech also have a new membrane capillary cartridge, and I'm loving them - less worries about cross contamination. The new membrane is also square, so it stops a bit of the internal needle rotation that can happen based on the physics of rotaries pushing from a circular motion around the motor (the way the cam spins)
@@DannyLavaHead I was scared at first too. But as long as you don’t bury it in your client it’s great. I’ll have to try the new ttech !
In the video you said you would put a discount code for this machine in the description. When I follow the link to element tattoo supply the price isn’t discounted. I can’t seem to find a code either, is it not there or am I missing something? Sorry to complain, also thank you for the great videos!
It’s the link to the site. It’s automatically applied when you click the link.
Glad you enjoy them!
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the speedy response, but the link isn’t applying any discount for me, I’ve checked on three separate devices now. Is it possible that the link doesn’t work for people out side of the states? Canada specifically? I’m sure you’ve got better things to do than dealing with CZcams complaints, but I’m incredibly cheap and poor so a discount would be cool haha.
@@hayesmcrae5782 all good man! That could be it. It might just be for the states
Can you do a video tattooing with this machine? And would this be good for stippling?
The last 2 fake skin videos I did were done with the machine. And yes it is
I found the battery waa awful on this. In the uk version you cabt change the battery
Oh really ? Interesting
Thats the old ep7. This is an apple like upgraded version. Hence the +
What do you think about the AVA GT EP8?
Never tried it !
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks for the reply. I’m from Italy and element tattoo are quiet expensive on shipping worldwide. So I’m trying to find another website in the EU and machine that’s roughly the same price to start with 😉
@@TheSteven47s that sucks. International shipping is always expensive
Great video thanks! I actually just received mine today, what sort of voltage were you using for lining/ colour packing with it? I have had a play but can't seem to find a sweet spot. Any help would be appreciated!
I don’t remember honestly lol every machine is different and I kind of figure it out as I go
Is Cheyenne hawk the best brand?
Some might say yes but others No. personal preference. Personally I don’t think so
The most overatedabd highly priced ...
sold this machine to a coworker at my studio, did not get the adaptors, nor the extra battery. after 8 months to a year of use, the battery died and i got the bishop liner while waiting for the replacement battery. took 4 months to get that, and the new one died on my coworker after ish the same amount of time.
the touch is terrible, and under the cover its holes with springs, that if one button is not working one can fuck with the springs in said buttons hole, and it might work again. seemed unreliable so i moved on. performance is good, but all the fuzz was a bummer.
i really liked the old ep 7, it had buttons(that sucked their own way) but that one is still going strong in the hands of another coworker. been using ava for 3 years now and 3/5 machines have failed to the point of me moving on.
this is all hidden behind the price. good when they work, sadly they tend to break :(
could not be happier with my vlad blad avenger 2 pro and bishop liner wand. With that I´ve got an Ava maxon for backup shader.
Ah that sucks. Thankfully you don’t have to break the bank for one of them. It’s definitely not one of my main use machines. I throw it in rotation here and there.
But agreed the wand liner and VB avenger 2 have my heart still lol
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial yeah, for sure dude. Was kinda hoping a review of this machine/brand would cross your path. it sure is great when new. but ive tried the gt-smart, ep7, ep7+ and the ava maxon(only one still going)
although i got two ava batteries (first gen ones with buttons). they do last me around 9 hours on the wand. buuut they charge with micro usb.... 70$ a pop, so i cant complain there.
was in contact with ava a while, while waiting for the battery fix, and figured out the leads on the wires inside are rubbish. changed them out, tightened a few odd screws and dang that ep7 ran like a chainsaw.
would like more ava batteries with buttons and usb-c, since they do last so long. but a boy can hope, am i right.. probably going critical battery set, if im not tempted to go back in time with the chords.
recently tried a cheyenne thunder, and damn that shit was crazy good. so im back drooling for yet another toy..
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial would give the newest rca batteries a try tho, if u get the chance.
@@SindreThePunk I’ve been using the critical batteries over a year now and they are great. Pricy but worth it for sure.
I’m always wanting new gear so I feel you there haha
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial after the bleak mid winter, when everything is aligned, i will indeed get them. But the ava batties work fine. Only shitty thing is no % view and micro usb charging.
Since being comfortable with vb avenger 2, and the cable again, im admittedly drooling a littlle over the cheyenne thunder tho. 4mm stroke stronger motor in the newest ones. WHEN WILL THIS ADDICTION END!?
Did you try that ai tenitas prophet machine?
No I haven’t just yet. Is it any good?
Don't know yet, heard some good things about it, I'm looking for some decent allrounder machine, maybe I'll I get that tenitas one.
Or I just get this one the ava, its mint for the price
I thought of a different machine!
Which one
:( discount code don’t work
If you click the link in the bio the discount is already applied
Nice machine but batteries are no good
Why are they no good? They last a really long time
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial I think they go faulty eventually I've spoken to a couple of people about it , they are a good machine though
@@subwooferroads after how long ? I’ve been using them a few months and they have been working great
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial they might of fixed the issues with the batteries im not sure the ep7 4.2 was out back then
Sooo.....if your not going to use it very often.....or you have copious amounts of tattoo pens just laying around.....you know. Extra clutter. No one wants that. Sooooo can I have one....please. Pretty please. I'll be your friend....but seriously can I have one...
Kind of Ultron pen from Vlad Blad... Good video dude 🤙
Thanks dude dude ! I’d like to try the ultron pen sometime. I haven’t gotten the chance yet
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Nice toy…👌 If Ultron got some weak points , I would say that would be the lines ( even they are ok, but max 7RL )….Ultron 2 is perfect Machine without any weakness ( got stronger motor than the first Ultron )……If you are fan of Avenger 2 pro ( and I know you are ) you will love Ultron 2…🤙
@@dudedude4034 nice ! I’ll have to put it on the list :)
@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial 👌