The Only Graves Guide You Need To Climb In Season 14 | Kaido
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Table of Content
00:51 - My win rate in S14
1:17 - Pros and Cons
2:01 - Graves Identity
2:41 - Runes and Builds
7:37 - Match-Ups
11:53 - Gameplay for Early, Mid and Teamfighting
13:27 - Mechanics and Tips
14:03 - Final Impressions
14:42 - Ending and Coaching
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This may have been the best league of legends video I've ever watched. 'Guides' on how to play champions are usually just a game with some talking about the champion. I mained Graves for a long time, took a break from the game for awhile and haven't been playing him since I returned as I was under the impression he was kind of weak based on his stats. This will motivate me to try again.
I especially liked the section on the matchups, as knowing which are difficult/easy and especially how the matchups should be played is incredibly important information that is impossible to find anywhere online without specifically asking a challenger jungler themselves about each one.
Ty bro, I hope you climb on him
Tbh this is the best educational content i've seen by far. Keep it up bro💪
I appreciate that!
Nice guide, ty. Maybe you could make a video on how to define a good champ pool
Thanks for the idea! I'll try to cook something
Hey Kaido! This video was awesome. I play mainly 4 champions, and 2 of them are graves and kindred, so your content is helping me a lot. I dont know how much of Nidalee and Elise do you know about, but if you could, I would like to see you playing them. I love high tempo junglers, that can invade and other stuff. Thank you
Maybe in due time I can, I'm more focused on AD junglers content as it's what I mostly play. I can for sure keep helping you on Graves and Kindred.
Nidalee pick would be yepic
more kindred vids pls!
lol your champ pool is like the hardest jg champs to play might as well add Lee sin
@@Kaido_lol zaned mogs you bud
10/10 guide. very helpful
Glad it helped
@@Kaido_lol zaned mogs you bud
Thanks for the video!
One question,Navori is a good first item ?
On graves, No
Hey, really cool video.
Though I have some follow up questions. Maybe it is worth making a quick follow up guide on those things. Or I would also appreciate an in-depth comment response or a 1 on 1 vc.
For context I am what you would call a low masta peaker (400lp peak) and I do play quite a bit of Graves but I still seem to struggle on a few things.
1. Pellet usage during clearing - how to do this tirelessly and efficiently? (I think I use way too much of my attention span to maximize this vice versa if I am focused on other things I don't do a good job of it
2. Grubs - pellet blocking during the spawn of the voidmites, how to clear them efficiently and healthy? (not have pellets be blocked consistently)
3. How to approach teamfights especially when it comes to W usage?
4. Combos:
a) 1 AA -> Q->E Combo chase/ reangle Q into walls tipts and tricks on how to use this efficiently
b) When and how to use the "Superman" combo efficiently
Join my discord and we can have a conversation about it
Serious question I would love an answer to:
Before collector had its lethality nerfed recently LDR literally did the same amount of damage vs a target dummy with level 9 graves base stats rounded down which is 60 armor with no bonuses (I used that as a reference. Seems reasonable to have first item at level 9. If you’re getting it earlier you’re fed so the game is different).
Anyways if the damage pre-collector nerfs was that competitive, why not just build LDR 2nd (or even first if you want to hit crit spikes sooner). It’s cheaper, easier to build, and out scales collector pretty much immediately because of math. And this is doubly true bc LDR is getting its build path buffed.
BF sword is great when you can buy it but there are cases when you have free boots and not enough gold and all you can buy is a crit cloak. Ironically it kind of fucks up your early game sometimes.
And as a second item collector should not be competitive with LDR at all. When I did damage tests and saw that pre nerf collector gets out scaled by about 61 armor I didn’t even bother testing it as a damage optimal 2nd. By the time you have 2 items (as a jg say lvl 12) you are hitting champs that are level 10-14 and their base stats alone across all classes are already exceeding the point to where LDR would deal more damage.
Even if you’re snowballing is it actually worse to deal 75 less damage to an ADC who you one shot regardless but deal substantially more damage to bruisers, tanks, and anyone who buys one drop of armor?
EDIT:
how do you suggest one go about first basing with a BF sword consistently? Or even 2nd basing it doesn’t seem plausible unless things are going your way. And if you wait until your third base you have 50% of the gold you made in the entire game at that point sitting in your in inventory unspent. If you can get it perfect but it’s so painful when you can’t
i ain't reading allat
Assuming you're ahead which you need to be on graves they won't have enough armor for the stats to matter
Shredding 40% of 70 armour or negating 18 is close enough where the execute on collector is better value and gets you some gold
Especially RN with carries everywhere
zaned mogs you bud
im looking for a champion to 1 trick, and btw your guides are extremely helpful because of the simplicity and you get straight to the point which is great. thank you. But if you have to pick kha'zix or graves for 1v9 potential which would you choose? A great video would be. Best champions to one trick to climb. Not based on current meta but based on there strengths regardless of team comp. For example I saw a video saying why play rek'sai when you can play UDYR or KHA'ZIX as if kha'zix and udyr are just stronger overall.
It's a good idea, I'll try to cook something
A question: Is there any situation in which E-ing to recharge faster when having used both bullets is useful? I've been trying to tell my colleagues its not troll but they've made me insecure about it
I don't understand ur question
@@Kaido_lol when you 2nd AA and get about halfway through the reloading animation, E'ing can give you the 2 shots instantly (reducing the reload in 0,5 if i'm not mistaken). Is there any situation where you could find this useful?
I really enjoyed the video. I try to invade as much as I can but they fall flat. I find myself losing to the enemy jg when invading. Or if I really want to invade but I don’t have priority from my lanes it feels like I have no purpose.
It will take a lot of practice and knowledge to understand what good or bad invades will look like. You also need to polish up on your mechanics to be able to take on more situations.
Tbh you don’t have to invade to win on graves. It’s good yes if you’re good at the 1v1’s but you can win just by farming well, gank bot, get drake.
what do u think of the canyon build?
he plays yoummus/opp into Phantom Dancer and IE third, he never finishes the boots because of the 12% ms from pd, so it's easy to build IE
personally i prefer profane or hubris first item when going that setup, because u lack a lot of dmg because of pd
Seems like low damage, would have to try tho
I was watching ArFreezy's Guide when I discovered Graves Jungle for myself. I watched many videos and I actually climbed from mid Emerald to Diamond 1 because of his guides. I stopped playing League when I joined army. Now that I have time again I wanted to refresh my knowledge. Sadly he quit League and left Grave's spot empty. You could easily fill that gap and do guides/analyzes. Stuff like this.
I don't know who that is but I'm happy to help you out with graves
Any tips on warwick matchup?
Plug in your mouse and space him.
@@Kaido_lol Fair enough. You didn't mention him in the video and since he is a pretty common low elo pick I thought I would ask. :)
How's the rumble matchup? I assume hard right
probably annoying af if he has set-up but can win.
Hail kaido, I'm Brazilian and I follow your channel, I don't know if I could, but if I could, it would be great, enabling the translation into Portuguese so that I can better understand your teachings. Top content, thank you.
I will enable it boss. Let me know how it is.
What Do you go for smite item blue or red?
Both are good, it's preference
Can you make a vid on why ur running conq on Khazix
I want to make a very in-depth build video soon on Kha'zix. Recently, I've figured out a lot of different item paths and rune choices.
Warwick isnt on the matchup list is he hard to fight?
well I don't play against it at all in higher mmr but you should respect it 1v1, The champ is omega op if you are in range for him to hit you.
@@Kaido_lol what about master yi?
Thanks man, btw i wanna know what app you using for the timer on the mini map
Blitz app
Rn people say shyv is a bad matchup i really dont see it.
She doesnt really influence lanes early, and with the current build people play she can be oneshot pretty easily + is super predictable with her ultimate
Im like 70% WR vs her even though im trash
This guide was made awhile back.
3:29 isn't cutdown bad rn because of the changes in 14.10?
with the buff is an viable rune, but is worth with champs like soraka or vladimir
Cutdown on 14.11 has become very strong.
Thats the best and most useful guide I`ve ever seen. My WR on graves sky rocketed, i play him cause i dropped from diamond to plat cause of toplane meta changes, and he is very fun to play and good in this elo. But i need one advice about kha`zix matchup. If he rushes Q evo first he usualy invades me and deals way more damage due to recent buffs, after 2 items inclouding ninja tabi i win the fights, but its harder to farm or take objectives earlier on. Any tips on that?
Glad it helped!
The only single thing that I dont like about your incredible videos is the fact that is quite difficult to understand the Words coming out of your mouth, it is kind of mandatory to use subtitles and even that way is still way hard
I have not found this to be the case. Are you from America? He has a pretty strong regional American accent
I'll try to add some subtitles around the main points, let me know how they are in future videos
Youmu is overrated
Youmuu is good for soloq lil bro
zaned mogs you bud
zaned mogs you bud
zaned mogs you bud
zaned mogs you bud