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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2023
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Komentáře • 292

  • @DED_MEEM
    @DED_MEEM Před 11 měsíci +19

    Listening to Mechina always turns my mind back towards the simple things...
    Orbital bombardment. Taking a drop-pod down through your own bombardment. Power armor. Monomolecular blades. Cutting an assault mech down with a monomolecular blade.
    You know. Simple things.

  • @monsieurbreakdown4814
    @monsieurbreakdown4814 Před 11 měsíci +74

    Mechina isn't really Mechina without Dave Holsch's growls. Glad to have him back.

  • @kar12894
    @kar12894 Před 11 měsíci +35

    Finally DAVE IS BACK. Busting through Mel's vocals, it's exactly what Mechina needed

  • @TheMD93
    @TheMD93 Před 11 měsíci +18

    It's the nanosecond Dave roars through with "that they can also bleed" that turns my head into a god damn windmill. My neck aches already. The last 3 albums have been great, don't get me wrong, but there's something special about what Dave did on this song to take us back to the truest highs of MEchina, albums like Progenitor and Embers.
    More seriously, what a phenomenal storytelling song. After 3 albums building Virton as this nightmarish beast responsible for the death of untold billions and the destruction of an entire planet, to hear Alithea scream after severing his traitorous head from his body and bathing in his blood is so cathartic. You feel for her and everything she has suffered through. And now the revelation that Enyo somehow has a child and the implication seeming to be that she is the Titanborn of Hydrus? Impeccable. What a revelation. Take us deeper into the final conflict and tell me MORE. Give me 40 more songs just like this signature mix of everything they've ever done and let me die happily.

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +3

      Amen brother. Brutally fantastic.

  • @Rokuro3771
    @Rokuro3771 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Listening to your music while playing warframe is a amazing experience.

  • @patrose7742
    @patrose7742 Před 11 měsíci +72

    Thank god the growls and varied vocals are back!

  • @deadpixstudios
    @deadpixstudios Před 11 měsíci +34

    This is as epic as The World We Lost and To Coexist is to Surrender! Amazing! Now we have a trilogy!

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +2

      Ah! A fellow man of culture I see!

    • @-Zer0Dark-
      @-Zer0Dark- Před 7 měsíci

      Cepheus: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @simplyheck
    @simplyheck Před 11 měsíci +136

    As much as I love Mel's vocals, I'm so glad we get at least one song with duo vocals

    • @dragontarus
      @dragontarus Před 11 měsíci +11

      I love all the duo vocals so much, it sounds so good.

    • @holyshiet787
      @holyshiet787 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I think a good chunk of Cenotaph had duo vocals, although lacking growls

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +3

      This song had so much punch with the harsh vocals after being starved of it for a while... I had wished some of the great melodies we had in recent albums had the harsh vocals for variations though... Even if it was that deep, bassy, male A.I. voice from to coexist is to surrender or something. Mechina flexing it's variation is what drew me to it in the first place.

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Love em both its a winning combo and this song is outstanding as is the whole "ep"?

    • @AliBabas40Ninjas
      @AliBabas40Ninjas Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah my favorites vocally are the ones where they both sing and harmonize with each other, then Dave growls on the heaviest parts 🤘🤘

  • @STomPoo
    @STomPoo Před 10 měsíci +9

    This is a whole new Genre, called Mechina Metal❤

    • @user-sl7gt1wh6u
      @user-sl7gt1wh6u Před 6 měsíci

      Mechina is not the way you described the style, it’s so that you completely understand their genre of music Symphonic Industrial Death Metal, well, this is so that you understand in a completely new way)))))

  • @Pleebian94
    @Pleebian94 Před 11 měsíci +37

    "That they can also bleed" Gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it. Love it!!!

  • @SkMrFusion123
    @SkMrFusion123 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I totally missed this release for some reason, saw it on Bandcamp while listening to Compendium Progenitor.
    Obviously went over here to watch the video, too.
    The rolling drums, full force, at 2:10 made me grin so hard - back to the Acheron/Progenitor times, and I'm all for it!
    Don't get me wrong, the last albums were fun, but this song is why I fell in love with Mechina.

  • @willmurphy4073
    @willmurphy4073 Před 11 měsíci +71

    I just hope the rest of the album is like this. absolutely amazing song

    • @komet5420
      @komet5420 Před 11 měsíci +2

      How do you know it's a full album?

    • @thebloxxer22
      @thebloxxer22 Před 11 měsíci

      @@komet5420They typically release new albums on new year's day. They generate hype at the end of the year before the new album drops by singles or trailers.

    • @darkamyntas3820
      @darkamyntas3820 Před 11 měsíci +13

      ​@@komet5420Because Joe is a machine. This track might not be part of an upcoming album but the sound of the epic singles is usually close to the follow-up album. And after The World We Lost all the other singles did show up as parts of the albums so there's always the possibility that it could be an album opener. (Though personally I doubt it.)

    • @KevinT2553
      @KevinT2553 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I hope so too! I do miss the harsh vocals.

    • @SharpEdgeStandardOfficial
      @SharpEdgeStandardOfficial Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@komet5420that’s what I’m wondering. Hopefully we’ll get another album soon!!!

  • @franciscoarrieta75
    @franciscoarrieta75 Před 11 měsíci +36

    Never dissapoint, love the duo vocals, Just an epic masterpiece

  • @rich3083
    @rich3083 Před 11 měsíci +24

    18 mins of musical genius, can't wait for this to get in Spotify.

  • @winterbear8633
    @winterbear8633 Před 11 měsíci +30

    It's not just Mel and Dave alternating in that really cool signature Mechina way, they each also display more variety and emotions in their vocals. The part at 9:13 legit gave me goosbumps even though I don't know the story, the raw vocals conveying those emotions in a way I haven't heard before from Dave was such good storytelling. Shoutout to Joe for being such a consistent songwriter and hard worker! Thank you all
    Ps: fuck yeah, death growls on Mechina songs

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +6

      The rawness of Dave's scream coming through at 9:20 SO HYPE!!!!

  • @JayUnas
    @JayUnas Před 11 měsíci +6

    the synthesizer bits gives a terminator 1 vibe.... love it

  • @ZytheJR
    @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +5

    YES!!! Mechina finally flexing it's variation again! This type of beautiful and raw contrast in its soundscapes is what drew me to it in the first place:
    The harsh vocals, the breathy tribal acapella, the synthy male and female vocals, and the mythic, booming, bassy, male A.I. voice!!!
    ...on instrumentals it was the raw rhythmical guitars contrasting with sweeping, catchy piano, violin, techy under-tones or full orchestral symphonies! I'll happily add this single to the growing list of unique masterpieces from my favorite band ever!!

  • @PeepsBucket
    @PeepsBucket Před 11 měsíci +22

    I like the Marathon theme. Grew up on those games!
    Also, this is my favorite Mechina song to come out since the Acheron era. Good stuff!

    • @danf98989
      @danf98989 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Hell yeah, glad I wasn't the only one to see that

  • @evanborso
    @evanborso Před 11 měsíci +8

    I hope that one day we will see novellisation for the whole storyline, told in all albums.

  • @50cal409
    @50cal409 Před 11 měsíci +8

    This is a perfect comeback song for sure

  • @Malfeasance1
    @Malfeasance1 Před 11 měsíci +10

    This song certainly doesn't feel like 18 minutes. Many of my past favorites, like To Coexist, are like that. I've been critical of a lot of the songs off the last few albums, but this is a glorious return to form.

  • @Orxan7
    @Orxan7 Před 11 měsíci +14

    Finally growls are back! Amazing epic masterpiece!

  • @grinningdino
    @grinningdino Před 11 měsíci +5

    Damn, it's almost as long as "The World We Lost" (30 seconds less).
    Just finished listening, good stuff right here! 🤘

  • @bobbobberson4183
    @bobbobberson4183 Před 11 měsíci +12

    The dual vocals add so much depth. I love Mel's voice but the jumping back and forth between heavy and gorgeous is immensely and sorely missed from the last few albums.

  • @happy_camper
    @happy_camper Před 11 měsíci +11

    I just love Mechina man. So awesome.

  • @bluethescrub7408
    @bluethescrub7408 Před 11 měsíci +30

    Literally a PERFECT marriage of all this group's elements... I've enjoyed the past couple albums immensely, but this is a step up even from that. Thank you guys so much for your talent and passion, it really shows in your music. ❤

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci +3

      The variety of the song really comes through. personally I miss that mythic, deep, bassy male A.I. voice once in a while haha. The one from "to so-exist is to surrender."

    • @daniels999
      @daniels999 Před 7 měsíci

      I'm pretty sure it will appear soon enough again
      They just cant have it anywhere to prevent it getting repetitive i guess

    • @bork750
      @bork750 Před 5 měsíci

      I completely agree

  • @thomasalastarkares5000
    @thomasalastarkares5000 Před 11 měsíci +6

    This is fucking masterpiece!! So complex song... with another tale from Mechina world.. Love it so much! I love the balance between the harsh vocals and clean vocals... and those symphonic parts are perfect!

  • @mitchmixon6645
    @mitchmixon6645 Před 11 měsíci +18

    been a fan since embers and this is the best song ive heard since then. Godspeed mechina and welcome back!!!

  • @robTCGZ
    @robTCGZ Před 11 měsíci +8

    Mechina is the gift that keeps on giving.
    This is brutally awesome!

  • @TheAbigor96
    @TheAbigor96 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Finally the real mechina has returned. 🥹 I love the previous albums, but the real mechina sound is so beautiful.

  • @michaelroy7754
    @michaelroy7754 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I can't be the only person who wants a stellaris album from this band. This is awsome

    • @fruhlinginparisxii5273
      @fruhlinginparisxii5273 Před 11 měsíci

      VERY TRUE. They need to collaborate with the Stellaris devs and make some sick lore music. I always have Mechina on during my Galactic Genocides.

  • @ProjectDarkWolf
    @ProjectDarkWolf Před 11 měsíci +5

    The synths really work well here. Such a unique sound but still so familiar.

    • @haurg7418
      @haurg7418 Před 3 měsíci

      The programmed drums trashy as always tho...

  • @enki4589
    @enki4589 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Mel and David are back!!!!

  • @enki4589
    @enki4589 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Joe you hit this one out of the park the park bro!!!!!

  • @equinox5224
    @equinox5224 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Oh my God! Mechina is old again! Thanks! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Smwnwn
    @Smwnwn Před 11 měsíci +4

    Mechina Universe never fails!

  • @Over9000Turtles
    @Over9000Turtles Před 11 měsíci +2

    Been listining to Mechina since Xenon and to this day they are easilly one of the most underrated artists I've ever immensely enjoyed.

  • @Winslinator
    @Winslinator Před 10 měsíci +2

    Joe, this is so fucking good. The best part for me is when the orchestrations "peak out" of the negative space between the djent riffs. Definitely a good song for motivation in the gym. Also, thanks for giving us a tour of the artwork during the video!

  • @andrewlekhnovskyi
    @andrewlekhnovskyi Před 11 měsíci +4

    Welcome back
    Best thing you did since Progenitor

  • @Fastmax13
    @Fastmax13 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Holy fuck…by the beard of Odin what a fucking tune……..this is what life’s about people who can create music like this transcend others. WOW

  • @sera6065
    @sera6065 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Dave is the best growler on earth!!!!!

  • @RebelTitan
    @RebelTitan Před 11 měsíci +3

    Man this is the real mechina I fell in love at first 🤟🖤

  • @Phanthomas8910
    @Phanthomas8910 Před měsícem

    This is the most epic shit ever conceived in the history of mankind. I don't know what other plane of existence I transcend to while I'm listening to this but I can't get enough of it. Also Mel and Dave together like this is just pure cosmic magic!

  • @metalhead2619
    @metalhead2619 Před 11 měsíci +2

    it is such a crime showing ad while banger song is bangging

  • @ArchReverend
    @ArchReverend Před 11 měsíci +6

    Epic! Sound like old Mechina with new Mechina. And just for me i prefer the vocals separate, a littlie duo is fine but your vocal talents are best served standing on their own. Over all pure epic music!

  • @Phyrexus
    @Phyrexus Před 11 měsíci +5

    Virton has been slain
    His head is a trophy
    And a warning to Empyrean
    What part will this half-titan offspring play?
    The battle lines are drawn, the final confrontation looms
    Blessings upon the field where blades will flood

    • @Phyrexus
      @Phyrexus Před 11 měsíci

      Oh wait, is the half-titan supposed to be Hydrus? 🤯

    • @Albertgraure
      @Albertgraure Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Phyrexus Daughter of Enyo, half-titan. Since Enyo is not herself a titan born, maybe she had a small moment of feelings and fell for a titanborn, and had a child. Since Alithea is also berserk and Enyo loves war, maybe they will both die after the war, and Amynthas will take care of the child, and the future generations. Maybe

    • @andrewlekhnovskyi
      @andrewlekhnovskyi Před 11 měsíci +3

      I'm so confused about Mechina lore post As Embers Turn To Dust...

    • @Phyrexus
      @Phyrexus Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Albertgraure in that same verse though, Amyntas is talking about Hydrus giving her sword to him, and that in the light he sees "someone born of my bloodline", and then says the bit about the half-titan. I'm wondering if that means Enyo created a child using Amyntas' genes and her own, and that child is Hydrus.

    • @onnilattu9138
      @onnilattu9138 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@andrewlekhnovskyithe albums dont go in chronological order which is so confusing

  • @chrisg7859
    @chrisg7859 Před 11 měsíci +8

    So as a fan since Xenon, Like it alot. Miss Daves vocals, love Mels also but lets face it, Ashes of old Earth is amazing. I like the way they trade off like with Telesterion. Hope the record is more like this. Keep it up.

    • @-Zer0Dark-
      @-Zer0Dark- Před 11 měsíci

      I saw somebody call Xenon "angsty," which I don't quite get. That whole album had them firing on all cylinders with everything that makes them Mechina: Dave's growls, his soaring autotuned sections, and (for the love of god) the orchestrals.
      Nowadays they're just synth soundscapes with Mel's vocals and no real structure. Hopefully this single is the first step toward what they used to be.

    • @SkMrFusion123
      @SkMrFusion123 Před 9 měsíci

      Ashes of old Earth, especially the Copmpendium version with that Violin melody all through the song, is one of my favorite songs ofa ll time.

  • @ghoulunathics
    @ghoulunathics Před 11 měsíci +1

    Dave's voice is commanding mountains. Insane.

  • @TheCrackler
    @TheCrackler Před 11 měsíci +3

    Finally clean and harsh vocals at the same time!

  • @MarcJungermann
    @MarcJungermann Před 11 měsíci +2

    *Love the atmospheric parts, love the heavy stuff. Stunning vocals. Simply brilliant!*

  • @Thomaslorenzen
    @Thomaslorenzen Před 11 měsíci +4

    just amaxzng!!! =D can't wait for the rest of the album!! =D

  • @sergioagra3846
    @sergioagra3846 Před 7 měsíci +7

    No new álbum this year?

  • @nebulaeusprime5955
    @nebulaeusprime5955 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Randomly clicked on this cuz it was in my suggestions coming from a space banjo video. Really glad I did, Mechina has a new fan now. Surprised I haven't heard of them before tbh.

    • @trickers24
      @trickers24 Před 6 měsíci

      My favorite song by them is Vanquisher, check it out

  • @khiemho162
    @khiemho162 Před měsícem

    dude this is such a underrated industrial metal band, i just discovered them today 😁

  • @TheHumanDescensionist
    @TheHumanDescensionist Před 2 měsíci

    Without a doubt the best Cyber Metal band to ever exist.

  • @alinwood
    @alinwood Před 11 měsíci +5

    Yes!!!!! I've got goosebumps listening to this. 💜

  • @Iscarion
    @Iscarion Před 11 měsíci +4

    Of course another masterpiece yet again! Waiting for the spotify! PRAISE HYDRUS! 🔥🔥

  • @Platnuu
    @Platnuu Před 11 měsíci +3

    DAVE MY BELOVED!

  • @Ihrvondjaer
    @Ihrvondjaer Před 11 měsíci +3

    wooohooo summer singles are back on the menu!

  • @anarchaos5505
    @anarchaos5505 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Dave! We've been missing you so much!

  • @deathofdeception3330
    @deathofdeception3330 Před 10 měsíci +1

    return to form for the mighty mechina thank god 4 the heavy vocals much appreciated .

  • @SharpEdgeStandardOfficial
    @SharpEdgeStandardOfficial Před 11 měsíci +22

    Joe’s guitar tones HEAVY and crushing as usual!! Awesome. Will this become available on iTunes?

    • @StaticImage
      @StaticImage Před 11 měsíci +5

      He grows as a musician in each release. He really does. The past few albums have been... rough. But that's mainly because of the vocals. Well, that's not really an issue in this song. And his talent is on full display.

  • @robertouttamyndx4400
    @robertouttamyndx4400 Před 4 měsíci

    Its Finally Time for them to play live !!! They have enough for a lengthy set that will kick asses in seats !!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @N1yaw
    @N1yaw Před 10 měsíci +1

    I didn't think I would ever experience such an amazing Mechina-song again T__T not just a song, it's an entire journey

  • @mechanism1
    @mechanism1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Jeusus Christ... When Dave made his entrance i instantly got teleported back to the world we lost, Acheron and Empyrean!!!! I hope the entire album will be like this!

  • @barad1tos
    @barad1tos Před 11 měsíci +30

    It's been 6 years since Mechina the last had dual vocals. Welcome back, masters, your return is truly majestical. I missed you.

    • @eviltoadgaming4648
      @eviltoadgaming4648 Před 11 měsíci +13

      They had lots of dual vocals on Telesterion, and they had two songs on Venator

    • @vitordias7822
      @vitordias7822 Před 11 měsíci

      that's not true

  • @adamw3152
    @adamw3152 Před 11 měsíci +4

    You guys are incredible!!! I was hoping you embraced all your vocal varieties. Soooo happy! You stand above all in my book!

  • @jayxofofficial
    @jayxofofficial Před 5 měsíci

    First time listening to mechina, they really are a fascinating band

  • @ArtFenixAsordis
    @ArtFenixAsordis Před 11 měsíci +2

    This sounds like a return to form! Hope the new album will sound close to this! Great song, I like it better than most of what's on the last 2-3 albums. A bit too long as usual but you finally got the sound right! And Dave's harsh (and clean) vocals are back!

  • @KillEmWithStyle
    @KillEmWithStyle Před 10 měsíci +1

    Amyntas and Alithea cannot be denied.

  • @komet5420
    @komet5420 Před 11 měsíci +2

    They completely outdid themselves with this one! absolutely brilliant 😌

  • @bork750
    @bork750 Před 7 měsíci

    This song is freaking transcendental, I absolutely love it.

  • @lekskarintian7725
    @lekskarintian7725 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Шикарный трек, рад возвращению гроула)
    Mechina is my love)

    • @user-mc1oz6si8q
      @user-mc1oz6si8q Před 8 měsíci

      будем надеяться, что это не единственный трек в альбоме с гроулом)

    • @lekskarintian7725
      @lekskarintian7725 Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-mc1oz6si8q думаю, это отдельный, внеальбомный сингл

  • @sera6065
    @sera6065 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Welcome back Dave !!!! This is the Mechina we love ! Now , I can sleep in peace

  • @Kalandaari
    @Kalandaari Před 11 měsíci +2

    I had goosebumps the entire track, epic, powerful, emotional. Pure Mechina goodness !

  • @Voice_of_Void_
    @Voice_of_Void_ Před 4 měsíci

    Damn, it's a new masterpiece! Ave, Joe, Mel and Dave!

  • @neonkeegan1293
    @neonkeegan1293 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Mechina, you are my gym workout band. I needed this new music 💪🏻

  • @tepenian.national
    @tepenian.national Před 9 měsíci +1

    Finally, David is back. Holy shit. I was worried sick. I'd actually stopped listening to Mechina for almost two years because I thought he'd quit the band.

  • @MY1BLACKCAT
    @MY1BLACKCAT Před 11 měsíci +5

    This reminds me of Progenitor Ashes of Old Earth & As embers Turn to Dust which are my most fave of yr music - haunting & beautiful

  • @prodlvst
    @prodlvst Před 10 měsíci +1

    thank the machine gods dave is back

  • @marcinszuba2246
    @marcinszuba2246 Před 11 měsíci +2

    What a tuneeee🤘 best elements of Mechina in one long masterpiece song🤘 It's great to hear Dave again. Mel killing is as always so as maestro Joe. Love Mechina me.

  • @uniservicemann3186
    @uniservicemann3186 Před 6 měsíci

    This is the most engaging 13 minute plus song ive ever heard.

  • @RichyBearSlayer
    @RichyBearSlayer Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is so good, always love seeing new content from these guys so I can’t wait for 2024

  • @nvergames
    @nvergames Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks for making this. Looking all over the internet for this scene..... ty Joe.... forever

  • @CloudGrey
    @CloudGrey Před 11 měsíci +2

    Mechina has been for many years among my favorite bands and they never ever disappoint, this new song blows my mind as always 😍 thank you guys ❤❤❤❤

  • @christianluger351
    @christianluger351 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Just perfect! As always, Mechina..

  • @KevinT2553
    @KevinT2553 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Another banger from you guys! I am glad the harsh vocals are back, and I hope there is more of that to come.

  • @andyhowl716
    @andyhowl716 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Yay heavies are back baby!!! XD Mechina hasn't been the same without them! \m/

  • @outsidefootdab4878
    @outsidefootdab4878 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Simply incredible song with amazing production

  • @BetweenTheLyons
    @BetweenTheLyons Před 11 měsíci +2

    YESSSSS Christmas came early this year fellow Mechina Enjoyers!

  • @va9053
    @va9053 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Absolutely amazing, incredible job gang.

  • @ptbempire
    @ptbempire Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ty for listening to your fan base

  • @metalhead2619
    @metalhead2619 Před 10 měsíci +1

    10:50 this rhyme is just godlike

  • @zOceanCamel
    @zOceanCamel Před 6 měsíci +2

    let dave cook, been listening to mechina since 2011. his growls are so underrated in the metal community. (also everyone else in this band are underrated)

    • @Eye_Exist
      @Eye_Exist Před 6 měsíci

      Dave is literally the best growler on the planet. simply phenomenal voice.

  • @porohelmikki6284
    @porohelmikki6284 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Thank you Xeno for showing me this godly band ❤

    • @ZytheJR
      @ZytheJR Před 11 měsíci

      Who is xeno? Also they have good taste

  • @ianezra7957
    @ianezra7957 Před 11 měsíci

    The fiery gems about to be dropped come 2024 only God knows. Hail!!! MECHINA
    !!!

  • @Salomon_G
    @Salomon_G Před 6 měsíci

    *Chef's kiss as always*

  • @barskepjusk
    @barskepjusk Před 7 měsíci

    Everything Mechina makes is a masterpiece, holy moly! They inspire me so much❤

  • @enki4589
    @enki4589 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Getting my Mechina tattoo this weekend!!!!

  • @AlexOvTheAbyss
    @AlexOvTheAbyss Před 11 měsíci

    So happy that the harsh vocals are back. The mix of them and Mel's are so good