Useful Talks About Ep 2 Barry Tank or Tender Engine
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- And it's finally here we have the second episode of useful talks about where I go in and discuss the topic of Berry the rescue engine. How it's been a diverse and divisive topic in the fandom and the truth that came out almost a year ago. Hope you all enjoyed this video.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
0:34 A Footnote
1:17 All the Thomas Charaters
2:18 What is Barry the Rescue Engine
4:17 Who is Barry the Rescue Engine
5;24 Barry's Basis
8:20 My Head Cannon
10:35 The Conclusion
11:13 My Final Goodbyes
12:49 Bloopers
Music:
🎉 Celebration No Copyright Background...
• staceyryanmusic open v...
• Silhouettes
• No Copyright Music 🎸 C...
• 111 instruments... 111...
• Arthur's Theme
The Influence All That
Barry's theme by BassTBone
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In my head canon, Barry is a tender engine
Agreed
Yes who would replace Gordon
agreed! tank engine barry is mid imo, i love tender engine barry
Same
I agree and disagree in my head cannon there are two barrys on sodor and both of them are mixtraffic engines
In my head canon, Barry was a ivat 2mt tank engine waiting for the cutters torch on barry’s island. But sire topham hatt rescued him last second, and brought him to sodor. He was repainted to a crimson red with NWR lettering. He didn’t want to be called Barry, and it reminded him of bad times, so he changed it to Arthur, after his old driver on his old railway, and is now the railway’s dedicated rescue engine, and is always out rescuing breakdowns and things like that.
When I discovered Barry's actual basis i did headcanon the tank engine to tender engine conversion
For note, your head-canon suggests that the Barry is a 2mt tank engine and is numbered 78010. However, that number was used for a class 2 Tender engine built in 1951. The class 2’s are practically very similar to the Ivatt 2mt tender engine. The only thing you’d need to change about your head canon is the number.
Like I said it's not perfect.
Barry from a Tank Engine to a Tender Engine was really genius in my opinion, I wonder how he & Arthur would interact.
Thanks! Even though it is technically recycled for my head canon I have for Bertram, but it still works either way.
@@UsefulEngine11 I see
My headcanon is that Arthur IS Barry! Here's how I think it went:
Barry was one of the 2MT tender engines built for British Railways and ran mostly in the Midlands, so he rarely saw the sea.
Upon withdrawal from service, Barry was sent to Barry Island scrapyard and was there for a few years.
By the time the fat controller visited the scrapyard in search of a steam engine for his railway, Barry's tender was already cut up.
The fat controller took pity on Barry and bought him, converting him to a 2MT tank engine at Crovans Gate Works.
The name "Barry" became painful for the engine due to the traumatizing nature of the scrapyard so he was allowed to pick a new name, that being Arthur.
Arthur would be painted in an LMS Maroon, a colour he'd never had a chance to wear and had a liking for.
And the rest is as it was in Series 7 and beyond!
I made Barry's role to be used for Arthur in my AU as the engine number 41248, an engine that was scrapped there.
I like to think Barry was a tender engine, but when he was in service he used to have a tender, but when saved was rebuilt into a tank engine by the enthusiasts who had enough fund to afford the steel to make the tanks and bunker and of course the booeys wheels to make him a 2-6-2T
TENDER because I don’t want to let Awdrey down since he was scraped
Nice video mate, best wishes from the UK as always. Hope you're doing well. 😊
The reason everyone assumed Barry was a tender engine is that it was said he was a 2MT from Barry Island Scrapyard, and only the tender engine 2MTs were at Barry in real life.
That’s become a bit of a myth in the fandom. There were two Ivatt 2MT tanks at Barry and both are preserved.
@@TidmouthYard Interesting, thanks for telling me
Tender, I will die on this hill
I personally like barry being a tender engine
I know Christopher Awdry confirmed Barry was a 2MT, in my head he would look more unique as a tank engine.
I wonder if barry inspired the creation of arthur and arthur was made as an apology to christopher for him never getting a chance to make the engine he wanted.
I imagine/headcanon Barry as a LMS Fowler 4P 2-6-4T in SDJR Blue, that’s how he is in my AU
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the tender engine idea came from wildnorwester
Like most things in the fandom lol.
Just so you know, none of those engines whose numbers begin with "78" are either Ivatt or LMS. They were designed by Robert Riddles for British Railways in 1952, 4 years after the LMS ceased existing!
I'll go with tender on engine 😊
I guess if people were to make Barry a tank engine like he was originally meant to be then I guess he would be Arthur's brother technically
I’m going to have him be a tank engine, it will be easier to make a custom of him from the same basis as Arthur
I personally prefer the BR Standard Class 2 compared to Arthur's class for Barry. The BR Standard classes were never touched on and benefited heavily from Woodham Brothers.
It’s a shame that he was not in the rws book
I definitely prefer Barry as a Tender engine. It's more fitting, the tank engine just feels wrong 😭
Why it feels wrong?
@elredlidercorrentinoamigod4126 I honestly don't know maybe cause I'm used to him being an Ivatt Class 2. It feels better for him imo, but if you like the tank version that's definitely fine I'm just saying
I Also Prefer Barry As A Tender Engine And I Hate The Idea Of Barry As A Tank Engine
@suepoutre1736 Yeah, tender engine is just better for him in my opinion
It Makes Sense Because Barry Sounds Like A Tender Engine Name
Hmm well WildNorWester did have a few episodes where he had Barry have PTSD but he named himself after the area to remember those who weren't rescued.
To me Barry will always be a tender engine but there's nothing wrong with him being a tank engine not in the slightest
here’s my idea for a story introducing barry.
bear decides to go to other railway in search of a new engine he comes across a tank/tender engine that’s due for scrap however bear manages to sneaks him out and brings to sodor where he becomes an official member and is given a new name barry.
before you ask yes this story acts as a rewrite to rusty to the rescue.
I got a similar story for my headcannon, but with Rosie instead of Barry. I do have a rewrite of Stepney Gets Lost for Barry though.
Oliver?
More like escape ngl
@@ttteproductions7609 well that’s what rusty to the rescue was based off of.
I personally prefer the tender engine version of barry because, well the tank engine overpopulation. Its always slightly bugged me hiw many tank engines were on the railway
Personally, I would have Barry start off as an LMS Ivatt Class 2MT 2-6-2T, and later be rebuilt into a BR Standard Class 2 2-6-0 after a nasty accident.
Hyped4this ngl
The whole “tender or no tender” thing reminds me of Bertram, supposed to be a tank engine but the show’s budget made him a darker brown Duke and thus a tender engine.
Yeah Bertram and Barry have somewhat the same backstory in my head canon. Both starting out as tank engines but then being converted into tender engines.
My HC for Barry:
Barry is 78059. (The 2-6-0 that is being turned into the 2-6-2T) He first came to sodor in 1964, and worked there untill 2009, when Barry went to the bluebell to be converted into 84013
Barry could have been a tank engine at some point but after being rescued he walls converted into a tender engine like you said.
To be honest I’d rather have him be a tender engine, because I think it fits him pretty good
I think tender since any other sources I have heard have placed him as an LMS Ivatt 2MT locomotive.
Useful Engine 11: Barry was a tank engine
ALSO Useful Engine 11: His number was 78010 (context: It's a number for tender engine)
My Head canon is that Barry was Arthur’s nickname but his actual name is Arthur
i can see how barry and arthur is the same character, it comes from your point about being named after the scrap yard
simply put barry was renamed and repainted to be arthur
Barry is a tender engine
He is a rescue, tender engine
My headcanon im prefer Arthur was 2mt Tank engine
In my headcanon,barry is a tank engine
For some reason yes it is confirmed he's like a tank engine LMS Ivatt class II people got it mixed up with the tender engine class and decided it looked better, I can agree because the actual tank engine design for barry isnt confirmed yet like the wellsworth and suddery engines and will never be.
Head cannon sth bought an ivatt 2mt tank engine but the seller again gave him a barry. Sth thought he got a good deal but he still needed a ivatt 2mt so he got arthur
10:36 what was the music used for this part
Look in the description.
@@UsefulEngine11 I did i search it up, but I can’t find it on CZcams
Is it on any other social media like SoundCloud or Spotify?
I did
I searched it up and I can’t find it on CZcams
@@The_lad_productions14 czcams.com/video/96a_pyLNlvY/video.htmlsi=VG16_ut2qNoDDq0A
Both
What is the theme called in the conclusion?
It's a theme used by WildnorWester for his version of Barry.
Barry is a tank
I like Barry being a 2mt tender engine that is what he is in my cannon he is also a maintenance engine he is a cocky prick is also sorta lazy and he and James hate eachother Gordon Donald and Douglas also don't like him he even goy himself painted NW Red just to piss of James.
I thought Barry was a British Railway standard class 2
In my headcanon Barry is a German class 24 (24 038) and comes to Sodor after the war as repaiment
I mean tender
Tender
I guess if people were to make Barry a tank engine like he was originally meant to be then I guess he would be Arthur's brother technically