10 dark Secrets Ducati Don't Want You To Know
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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2023
- Ducati's Dark Secrets Revealed
Even the best companies have some dark corners and the bigger they get, the darker those corners seem to be.
Maybe I just live in a dreamworld where passionate specialists should be more important than corporate giants.
Maybe you disagree entirely. I am sure there are plenty of Ducatisti out there who will have something to say :-)
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These 10 facts could be a description of any company.
I've had three Ducati's. A 600SS, a 748 and a 916. They've all been brilliant to own. I owned the 916 for over 20 years. You can't skimp on the maintenance and the quality of parts. Once you're out of warranty, take it to a mechanic you can really trust. Don't bother with the dealers.
I do all my own mechanics mate. never trusted dealers whatever the make, cheers for watching
@@barebonesmc Same here. Much easier than cars because you don’t need as much space or special equipment. Everything is possible.
@@G58 im saying nothing lol. 36 different triumph special toold for the Daytona, 1 bike, 37 tools? idiotic lol
@@barebonesmc Crazy indeed.
Agree don’t trust dealers
Yup my 2023! Panigale V4S can literally overheat in traffic in 40deg weather and burn your thighs at the same time. When you see a guy on a Ducati with will legs spread wide now you know why.
lol, cheers for watching mate, u made me smile 🙂
I have a 2022 v4s and i have no issue whith heating.maybe because i dont ride on shorts instead jeans or leathers.
Besides a license plate LED that failed there is nothing to complain about.
Its just as a hot chick with a boob job and mini skirt sitting on my garage that is ready to go with me whenever i feel the mooth
@@JoaoSantosComboios im not a fan of plastic boobs either lol. what that says about both of us is for other people to judge lol. like ive said mate if we were all the same it would be boring. cheers for watching, enjoy the ride
Sorry , but I have the best Ducati shirt EVER!!!!! it says " THE BEST THING IN THE HARLEY SHOP WINDOW IS THE REFLECTION OF MY DUCATI "!!😊😊😊😊🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺
Thats a good one :-) and don't think Im a hater mate, some of my best friends ride them, I just dont like the VW Audi influence and the effect of big industry. the Screw therapy, I ride a Ducati T-Shirts I did are pretty popular too lol. Bevel Drive Forever !!!
@@barebonesmc audi may make them more reliable. Rode a 750ss and a 360 desmo for years. If ya did the maintenance no problems. But I must admit my honda 750ss on a harris frame full yosh , brembo and Bimota parts was also an attention hog. Lol
Maintenance may be complex and frequent.
@@carlosoruna7174 nice, cheers for watching mate
Don't have many videos of my bikes , but you may enjoy this short one!!! I ride alot and sometimes I wear my shirt that reads " THE ODOMETER PROVES THAT MY DUCATI IS NO FASHION ACCESSORY " 😀😀😀😀🏍🏍 czcams.com/video/voMQ-4Xo-7Q/video.html
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Started riding motorcycles in 1966. Rode and raced Norton's for many years. You think Ducatis are labor intensive. I used to say for every hour you ride a Norton, you put an hour of work into them. When I moved onto Ducatis, I didn't find the quirks and maintenance unusual. They were much more reliable than the Norton, which was a great moorcycle. In a 15 year span, I owned two 916's, an ST4, a 1098, a monster 900 and a Hypermotard. I put on over 100,000 miles on these bikes and did all my own maitenance. Track days on my 916 are dome of my best memories as was sport touring around western US on my ST4. I started a successful busness, EMS, manufacturing valve shims, MBP retainers and tools forvalve adjustment. I became very intimate with all things Ducati. What you say is all true, but Ducati is no different than any other manufacturer. The bikes are different and offer a style and,sound, and feel that is unique and in my opinion worth every penney. I have no regrets owning,riding and maintaining all my ducs. Plus, if it wasn't for Desmo, I would not have enjoyed growing a business from scratch. Ducati will always be dear to my heart.
a great story mate and sounds like you have had a great collection,. I hope it all continues, I have just seen the influence of big corporations kill the essense of too many companies. have a good day
@@barebonesmc that is true. Having worked for many companies, some large, the bean counters usually get control and its all about the buck. In the early days of Ducati, they were more about racing than anything and darn near drove the company into the ground. You must of the cash flow or its all over. But I really enjoyed their passion.
@@mikeguidera2774 yep the passion was infectious too 🙂
I have to totally agree with everything you've stated in this video , and yes the scrambler in summertime traffic gets unbelievably hot and I use my very capable water cooled Yamaha on very hot days for the reasons you outlined , so much for the freedom of a motorcycle with a Ducati !!!
I feel like i should say sorry mate even tho i didnt cause the problem lol, cheers for watching
the bending of the WSB rules by Ducati doesn't surprise me at all, they have always seemed to benefit from FIM patronage, much as Ferrari does in Formula 1. Always surprised that non Ducati riders win the BSB as the main Ducati protagonist's bikes are all basically WSB spec (without electronics).
smoke and mirrors mate, yes just like ferrari :-) cheers for watching , enjoy the ride 🙂
Say what you will but the desmoquattro period (748-996) made a GIGANTIC improvement in not only Ducati but motorcycle culture as a whole. Other than the desiseidici, Ducati died for me with the 996. I love the 1991 851 model most and have several in the stables.
Computer control has killed racing!!!
theres a video coming this week where i talk a bit about that :-) cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
Thank you for the information I am 74 will be 75 in 2 months ride a 2022 Hayabusa ,my brother rides a Ducati he is 67 it’s all about the ride 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
@@Senior-Busa-Rider Indeed it is Kim, 🙂cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
I've had 4, I have a Multistrada now. No issues, just regular maintenance, most of which you can do yourself. Ervice Intervals, have greatly increased as well!
each to their own mate, if we were all the same the world would be boring, cheers for watching,, enjoy the ride 🙂
Some of it really is surprising to me. And as a MotoGP and Ducati fan it is such a shame to see those bikes with ugly winglets on them. I'd rather go back to an era where those Japanese teams were dominating, there is more pure racing back then.
interesting , thats 2 of you mentioned parts of this coming weeks video.:-) cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride and keep an eye out, should be up around wednesday
I, very well, recall owing a 1098S back in 2010(?) It was a powerhouse, but a fickle partner! I recall the pain of my bum burning, any time I was caught in traffic. I recall how utterly uncomfortable it was, if ridden for any length of time. I recall who stupidly expensive the services were or, for that matter, anything you needed to have repaired. Spares? Ridiculously priced. Everything excessively 'over' what any other bike would cost. I also recall how, once i'd moved on, the Ducati 'family' disowned me. I also recall though, that it was ecstasy to own one.....but only one, and only once. Anything more would be a torture i'm not financially, nor physically, happy to revisit.
I do think some of the dealerships just take the p*ss out of people. Every customer is just seen as a cash cow
Try a multistrada 1200s
@@FULLNOIZ I did, did the Multistrada Enduro weekend. even with the power dialled back i was drained after 2 days from holding it back all the time in the dirt. im sure theyre great as a tourer and one of my mates loves his but just not for me. I like simplicity 🙂cheers for watching mate
I also had a 1098, and I'm with everything you said. Sold it after 4 months and went back to my Aprilia Rsvr which luckily i never sold, a much more user friendly road bike!
@@adolfshitler I must say.......at great possibility of attack, that my favorite bike EVER was my ZXR750L. A '93 model. We were in financial difficulty, as some stage, and I sold it, much to my regret. The best bike I ever rode or owned. I've owned a lot of bikes....some good....some, not so good. The 1098S was great, but too much of a literal pain in the arse. It also induced 'Eurofear'. The fear of dropping something so expensive, that you couldn't genuinely enjoy riding it. I'm glad that you had a fallback position. Take care!
This video has made me thankful for the aversion to the Scrambler line.
Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support
Thanks for the upload. Loved it. It clears up most of the questions I had according the rise in performance of DUCATI the past decade.
cheers mate, i do just mourn the loss of passion in an industry that is failing so badly in the western world. if money had been the primary focus, can you imagine all the amazing bikes we have had that would just never have seen the light of day?
Back in the day Ducati's were beautiful bikes yet very poorly build, like Alfa's, Ferrari's and so on. My view is pretty simple: if you ride (or drive) a lot, you buy sensible stuff. I have ridden Italian bikes and driven Italian cars. And loved them. Eventually I grew up (or became old, your choice 🙂). So nowadys in my garage there is a Honda, a Yamaha, a Peugeot and a Mercedes-Benz. Perhaps not exiting, but they usually work and do not cost an arm and a leg to maintain. It's all a matter of personal preference.
indeed it is mate Cheers for watching, 🙂Enjoy the ride
Ducati has always been exciting to me---used to have a collection of singles---2 350s and a 450Desmo that was raced at Westwood in B.C. Canada---the 450 had a twin plug head and I made it roadworthy at 240 lbs. My last Ducati was a 1974 750 GT. Love to have another but maintenance costs steer me more towards Japanese sportbikes.
I do love the old Bevel drive singles 🙂 and i'll never forget as a lad coming across a 900SS for the first time. awesome engineering. I ended up going down the Laverda and Cagiva route instead in the end though. and honestly, i feel like Aprilia are possibly the last true bastion of Italian Craftsmanship now. Piaggio just seem to let them get on with it rather than interfering in the designs. I still can't see the point of some of the more modern Ducati's, When I rode the Multistrada Enduro all I did was spend all day holding it back even though the power was dialled down to minimum, I was completely shattered at the end of the day. and what the hell is the Diavel really? other than something to pad out the front of an empty pair of Y Fronts 🤣🤣🤣 cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment. always good to hear what people think, ride free
Regret selling my GT750,
Still have 350,SD 900 and some rubber band 😂😂😂
@@johnmartin6854 I think im just a nerd when it comes to engineering. I just loved the Bevel drive engines and the move to belts was a serious downgrade to me. I know it has advantages but i guess im a puritan at heart lol
@@barebonesmc You really are a hater eh BAREBONESMC. As we say in America "Haters are gonna hate".
The phrase implies that criticism says more about the critic, or “hater,” than the person being criticized, i.e., that they are making judgements out of jealousy or their own negativity.
@@barebonesmc The bevel drive system and the built-up crankshaft were real engineering impediments Ducati had to get rid of; the belt drive and plain bearing cranks are much more reliable.
Ducati was seriously po’d at our race team back in 2006. We had a wealthy sponsor who loves Ducati’s and bought us a V-twin 999 to race in the next big endurance race. I warned him that with a group of proper fast guys riding it that the engine would likely not survive the 8 hour race. It threw a valve out of the exhaust at the 2.5 hour mark. The owner of the dealership he bought the bike from guaranteed the bike would do the 8 hours no problem or he would replace the engine free of charge. He very angrily made good on his word and then resold the bike to someone else as a used bike with a new engine. Those big twins’ rod bearings and valves just can’t handle that kind of stress for very long. That said, the new V-4’s thankfully appear to be much more durable.
at least the dealership did right. for me its the old bevel drive engines that i love. masterpieces of engineering, cheers for watching mate, hope you stick around. i wonder what your take on the MV situation i talk about in the other video?
Ducati’s are beautiful and (mostly) great to ride.
However Ducati and Ferrari have two thing’s in common: Red and a complete lack of sporting ethics.
I shall now go into hiding 😂
lol, cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride 🙂 you can come out of hiding though :-) we are an accepting bunch here lol
Thanks again for a great video. I'm 57 and have owned over 20 motorcycles. I absolutely love Italians, so much so that I married one. But your right on the mark that you better have a lot money to own an exotic bike. First off I live in a city where we have 3 dealerships, one being Harley and the other 2 Japanese bikes. The best bikes I've ever owned where Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. They don't require a ton of maintenance and basically run forever. But oh that Panagale, sigh...
cheers for the compliment mate, ill take it :-) I prefer the older ones but we should celebrate our differences more :-) cheers for watching, ride free
Interesting comment if you like good handling low maintenance and speed then I would recommend a test ride on Hayabusa. You don't need a new the used ones are very good value for money.
I was a part of the Ducati International Owners Club, DIOC, when the Castiglione’s “bought” Ducati. They saved Ducati from themselves. I agree with your “More Money than Sense”(Pro Italia discarded all bevel drive and early belt drive parts and bodywork…). IMHO THE fast By Ferracci Cortez was The One(opinions, we’ve all got one, eh?)
not come across that bike before, looks a beast
When I was a kid back in the eighties there was a Ducati shop right downtown Kingston Massachusetts the only one around I would go there and just awe
over the beauty of those motorcycles I still want one to this day more than I've ever wanted anything work of art they are
I know what you mean. some more than others :-) I will always love the 748 and 749 R models best I think, except for the older bevel drive singles :-) I;m just finishing a Laverda SF2 that arrived in oily boxes after not being run since 1979 and I would argue it is at least the equal of the Ducati's :-) enjoy the ride mate
@@barebonesmc always liked the 888
@@pc2150 nice bike, a mate has a Paso too which is stunning. Passion breeds excellence 🙂
Go rob a bank and get one.
Ducati. Taking the piss since 1985.
indeed :-) Cheers for watching mate, ride free
Thanks for the interesting and informative video. I'm delighted to hear you speak about what has gone on in Moto GP. I was shocked when I read that Ducati would be running under open class rules in 2014. I just couldn't believe that ANY factory currently competing would be allowed to run as if they were a small private team. And then there's the issue of stacking the grid as you've highlighted here in your video.
shall we call it the Ferrari factor 🙂
If they didn’t stack the grid the Moro GP would be dead. It’s already on life support.
@@llanelli311 i guess thats true, as someone pointed out though maybe it played a part in Suzuki pulling the plug? as to Moto GP, ill agree, DORNA have a lot to answer for, but they never will
Also don’t forget that long before Ducati had satellite teams both Honda and Yamaha had them-so really nothing new there. I am also a bevelhead guy, have had several belt drive Ducati’s which are much easier to assemble with massively less shimming required-but as a mechanical engineer bevel drive is a much purer system. Love my 450 Desmo, never parting with it-although I would add a Supermono to the garage in a heartbeat if I could afford it…….
@@K777John interesting :-) have to say i always loved the look of the Supermono but theres a tale in the comments from an owner who hates his with as much of a passion 🙂 cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
I dearly loved mine, but I was working overtime to keep up with the running costs. Eventually it wore my patience away.
Sorry to hear that mate, Cheers for watching :-) enjoy the ride
@@barebonesmc it was the nicest bike I’ve ever owned. MTS1100S. I loved it, my mum bought it for my 40th. The running costs destroyed me though. £1200 for a service + stuff, comes back, has a weird noise. Back in the shop, £450 for diagnostics. Oh my days…I’d buy another tomorrow, I love that diavel mind you, I test rode one and liked it. GAHH.. I’m gonna do it again aren’t I. 🤦🏻
@@seebarry4068 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can clearly remember the time that we were all screaming to give big corps all the power they wanted, and how they would 'self regulate'. Sure.
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That is Good to know! Very well presented. Thanks
You are welcome! :-) cheers for watching mate. Ride Free
I thought so! Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
and back to youthe UK mate -Cheers for watching🙂 Ride Free
I have three pre 2012 Ducatis, and I love the machines, but they can be maddening. If I was unable to do my own maintenance I could not afford to own them, but ridiculous dealer maintenance fees have become standard for all brands car and bike. ($180 per hour for Jeep service!!!) At least I can buy Ducati parts and tools. I have a BMW bike, and BMW will not sell their special purpose tools needed for frequent and simple valve adjustments to non-dealers. The Ducati dealer network is terrible. I took my 2002 ST2 to the closest dealer (40 miles away), and they told me that they did not work on older Ducats because there were too many problems. In other words, anything that can't be diagnosed with a plug-in electronic reader is not accepted. The same dealer charged me $170 to confirm that my plastic fuel tank had failed due to expansion, and then they told me that the 2012 bike was too old to get get a free replacement, so I had to buy a $1300 fuel tank which I no longer keep fuel in when I'm not riding it. Regarding 8 bikes on the grid in MotoGP: any of the other manufacturers are free to do the same thing, but aren't willing to make the same commitment as is Ducati, so that is on them.
there are some lessons in there :-) I feel your pain mate, my Triumph Daytona has 36 different Triumph special tools, on ONE BIKE lol. Great bikes...... BUT..... theres always a but somewhere lol
2008 BMW R1200 GS was horrible in city summer traffic. The big pots hanging out sideways still overheated. Ducati Scrambler ha zero chance, even at 10 mph.
Hmmm....Ducati 787 Monster here. Its an amazing bike. It is truly an all around bike. Touring, sporting, adventure biking.... Ducati may have become somewhat unscrupulous in the moto GP world, but, they sorta have been the top dog for a long time. Many other companies have strategized how to take them out. Winning GP is more than rider and bike, its whole company strategy. So perhaps Ducati is just ahead of the curve. I am also glad that instead of going out of business, they are now owned by Audi. Audi is financially a very stable and productive company. I don't think Ducati ever claimed to be the inventor of the Desmodronic engine. In fact all valve engines were originally mechanically actuated by direct contact to main bearing. Overhead cam actuation was a later development. Ducati went with this tractor engine tech because of limited financial resources. They perfected it and won the world and built a name.
if we all thought the same it would be a boring world mate, to be fair, as you will see from my comments and other videos, i dont single Ducati out, and i did feature the monster here czcams.com/video/dvI7bb0MlX4/video.html 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂
Hi, at 2:49 - "the 1914 ..........Grand Prix Prix cars" seems to be lost in editing?
As an ex- bevel twin Ducatist, I was aware of the Desmo valve origins, but always regarded its use as being questionable on the 900 twins particularly in view of the rev limit. A friend used to half jokingly refer to crank replacement as a service item - around 20k miles? I ran mine on monograde as the bevel gears were claimed to destroy the viscosity improvers in multigrade oils. - It was always a DIY bike.
Thanks for the info! being just a biker with no team i do rely on auto translating for the subtitles and i just dont have the time to go through every one, sorry for the mistakes.
Paying for pain and running cost just to say look at me I ride a Ducati..
Ouch lol, cheers for watching mate :-) enjoy the ride
I shy away from all Italian motorcycles in general, not because I think they’re ugly or unreliable, but because of💰. The funniest thing I ever heard actually referred to Moto Guzzi, not Ducati. “Moto Guzzi, turning motorcyclists into mechanics since 1922.” Yes, the Italian bikes have power, style, and panache… but I’ll take the reliability and affordability of a Japanese machine any day.
cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride 🙂
Your Ducati youtube was overdue - let the rider/owner beware - I have nine bikes, four of which are ground-up (not using a factory frame) special builds - no ducks.
sounds like an interesting collection :-) cheers for watching mate :-) ride free
I have a zx 636A1p from new and looks like one, you know why?..... because she's never been to a dealer apart from the six hundred miles service, every year has an oil change and chainc clean at least four, usual maintenance with minimum spannering!
My recent second bike is the monster+...... and I definitely intend to do the same!
Regardless of the threat "warranty is void" etc.
It's unethical when you have to pay for the service light to be turned off when you are allowed by law to service your own bike!
Excellent video 👍
🙂Cheers for adding your bit mate. Ride Free 🙂
You enlightened me: Ducati is a VW. That is very interesting.
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂
I have owned Ducati's for over 25 years. Love them but they handle like a child having a tantrum they rattle like bolts in a cement mixer. The service costs the same as a decent used middle weight motorcycle. You need to have Zen level ankle and knee yoga skills to handle more 25 minutes riding.
they handle like a child having a tantrum they rattle like bolts in a cement mixer QUOTE OF THE DAY 🙂
To be honest it’s fantastic to see VAG investing in Ducatis. Access to funds for R&D has put Ducatis at the front of the grid. They are head quartered in Bologna Italy and so for me they are Italian. VAG also own Lamborghini, this (to me) is also still Italian but with German quality controls. Perfect combination.
if we all thought the same it would be boring mate, im just not a big corporations fan, i prefer small specialist companies every time. Just my opinion, cheers for watching mate :-) ride free
@@barebonesmc Also Triumph builds bikes in various places but there Triumphs anyway. What does it matter where something is built? The important thing is the product, not where it's made. Are Fender guitars crap just because they're built in Japan?
@@kjelleriksson2793 and look at the mess Triumph got into because customers reacted so badly to finding out how much wasn't being made in the UK? I do clearly say IT ISNT JUST A PROBLEM WITH DUCATI. and it isnt that i have a problem with where something is built, its that i dont think "made in the UK" or "made in italy" should be used as it is everywhere in the marketing when it just isnt true in the way it is portrayed. 🙂 cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
@@barebonesmc Agree totally. I am a born-again biker (or organ donors as we're otherwise known), since I've returned to two wheels I've owned a Triumph Sprint, and a BMW Boxer Cup Replica. Previously I only owned British bikes from the 1950/60s (BSA, Triumph, Norton, Matchless, AJS), although I'd ridden Kawasakis, Hondas, Yamahas etc. The changes in motorbike handling, braking and engines since then is incredible. Most of this is due to racing and investment by the big companies. Hence my comment.
The MCN reviews their sport line to have issues with the chain rubbing against the guard and/or swing arm. Some say it's the tension on the chain and others say it's tire pressure or both. Either way Ducati refuses to acknowledge this as an issue on their bikes.
thats not one ive heard about, cheers for adding mate, you got links to anything about it?
...too bad that crotch rockets have gotten too fast therefore requiring technology advancements ( sleeper clutch, traction control, etc. ) in order to barely be controlled by top riders, let alone the regular Joe...such advancements increase the prize tag, return to last century when a race bike was unobtanium for Joe...lately the direction has been changing towards a product that won't murder the rider while street riding this 600cc are overkill for the public roads...my first monster bike a 1984 kawi 750 turbo with EFI ( first race and was moved to open production class ), 900 ninja, 1123 cc on a 750 gsxr chassis ( a pleasure to slide the rear wheel ) however, had the most fun racing the RZ 350 and after, the baby ninja...today, just a DRZ 400...being way underpowered forces any rider to improve drastically...
put very nicely good sir :-)
A great review, summary, praise and truth spread detailing the ins and outs of owning one of these incredible bikes- even if it does get a bit warm at times!!
Not ever having owned one but rode with those that did I always found them to be a truly great engineering feat, everything strong but flowing and subtle and a lively engine. I have always lived way out away from normal areas of regular maintenance ( definitely DYI!) so favored other bikes for that but the Ducs ran well when no gremlins appeared and that was their thing. When you own a thoroughbred though you know strong maintenance comes with it. I had a Plymouth Roadrunner car with a built 440 Tripower and it was constant maintenance but super fun to drive. Again, DIY . Riding over 50 yrs I am not a bike snob, ride watcha got.. Every bike has its "thing", all have two wheels, well mostly, and a blast to ride. You get what goods and bads they come with and generally know this, especially these days of internet and reviews. Still Ducati is still an icon, still brings a "Wow"abd "I wish" from most of us when parked or rolling. So take it as it is, maintain it and like all bikes- ride them until the wheels fall off. I meant that figuratively not literally- maintenance remember?? Stay safe my friends.
and you :-) Ride free. Cheers for watching mate, and enjoy the ride :-)
I’ve never heard anyone ever claim that Ducati invented desmodromic valves.
i am allowed a slip now n then mate, i am human, this was done quite early on and i was still getting used to doing it all, it was supposed to be worded slightly different, but it got through the edit unnoticed
I was just talking about how many ducati teams are in motogp now. I heard they were talk about limiting it to 3 teams for each manufacturer which I think would be fair. Of topic but no suzuki this year is strange
it is a shame they went, and yep, the field needs more variety, cheers for watching mate
Had a 2003 DS1000 Multi. Great bike, almost the perfect bike on rough twisty mountain roads. Definitely experienced the swelling ultimately cracked fuel tank. Plenty of other things to worried about. But the 2V engine was easy to DIY for a reasonably mechanically inclined owner for valve adjustment, belts, and clutch.
Had a 2004 S4R Monster. A Brillant and brutal street fighter, but alas, just too hard edged for my rough mountain roads.
About 2010 seems like the magic I liked was removed from the Ducati lineup. I'm not interested in the new smooth gumdrops.
the VW Audi effect 🙂🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
Reminds me of mini with it`s union jack tail lights...they`re not british , they`re german.....really get`s my goat. I was a teenager in 70s / 80s, Ducati are like Alfa Romeos ..beautiful to look at, but best given a wide birth [ imo ].
only car I ever loved was an Alfa, last of the real Alfa's before they started using Fiat parts and Factory, awesome car taking off over the mountain at Cadwell park not recomended in a front wheel drive car though :-) cheers for watching
Love to see a cagiva mito with a single swing arm. I have a Monster 620 and a Cagiva planet and they share so many of the same parts. love them both. I learned that the Ducati Tax is real most of the parts are from Alfa or FIAT even the oil pressure switch is from a VW and cost a £5 instead of £50
if only more people realised :-) Cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride :-)
I can’t see anything beautiful here. All the beautiful engineering art has been covered with shaped plastic, it’s coloured plastic!
I’ve been a Ducati fan since the 70’s and was lucky enough to own a 900ss back in the day. Anyone who has the slightest interest would know that desmodromic valves were not invented by Ducati. They did however stick with it for competition unlike Mercedes who arguably had greater worldwide success using the system. Including perhaps the most legendary performance of all time by Stirling Moss.
Cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
Have owned many ducatis and they have always performed amazing seems every year they have some issue but as of lately the issues are small an insignificant and covered by best warranty in business. My 2022 V2 has been the best Ducati I have owned with very little issues and I ride 90% of its time on track.
We done the timing belts on a 748 recently and it was no bother ! It's no worse than a car in fairness - Just make sure you know what you are getting into first and take your time - Like any bike - keep an eye on the mechanicals and don't scrimp and they will give you very little grief - They are no Honda but they are damn nice and sound amazing !!
I'm not a hater mate, I just dont like the Audi effect. cheers for watching, ride free
@@barebonesmc "The Audi Effect" - what a bunch of bovine excrement.
@@barebonesmc How do you really know what the "Audi effect" even entails in Ducati motorcycles?
@@rlsedition no one can know everything per se, but because I have personal experience of corporate takeovers and have watched the changes and progression of a company that made bikes i loved I think I can make a pretty educated supposition, and yes that is colored by personal opinions, I consider Tamburini and Terblanche both masters and even the original Monster is a work of art despite being effectively a parts bin special. The new Monster is an agly brute that is just trying to play on that Iconic name, That is a clear example to me of the VAG effect if you need one
@@barebonesmc Neither of us have any idea how much effect Audi is having on Ducati products other than financing. It's not clear to me why Ducati chose to ditch features like the trellis frame on the new Monster and relegate it to secondary positioning relative to the Streetfighters when the Monster brand was much better known.
very informative,,,,,, thanks
glad you enjoyed it mate
Nice designs, but I had my fill of shoddy italian worksmanship with far more simple mechanical devices (guns), so I wouldn't pay a dime for an italian motorcycle.
Exclusivity, race bikes one could buy. Now though, so many manufacturers have stepped up their game in Ducati's arena it doesn't make sense to spend three times the money. Like Harley Davidson they're relying on branding that's getting less & less relevant as time & the competition move on. Didn't know about rule manipulation, did that contribute to Suzuki pulling out ?
im sure it didnt have a positive impact but i think the Suzuki decision was primarily based on the fact they sell so many small capacity bikes and Maruti cars than the bigger bikes. the sales incentive has just gone so it becomes more about kudos. cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride 🙂
well said and very well put together [particularly the link to the full article]
cheers mate, I'm gradually getting the hang of it 🙂 thanks for watching, ride free
@ 2:08 interesting to see fork zip tie within 1" of full bottoming, think I may alter fork oil viscosity or volume.
ps apparently excellently researched vid'.
🙂cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
Why Ducati service cost so much. Have you seen the price of the tools to work on a Ducati ?
A good point well put mate, Triumphs are just as bad lol 🙂Cheers for the comment. Ride Free 🙂
I was under the impression that Audi AG took control of Ducati holding in 2012, hence the Volkswagen Group, not in 2005. I recall vividly it was the last year of Rossi’s contract in MotoGP.
As for a car company owning a motorcycle manufacturer, it’s such a bad thing, especially since it’s Audi, known for sexy clever automobiles…
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ive just checked and it is 2012, and i had actually got that written down too so its a mistake i made when recording, sorry, ill have to look at why but im thinking it was as simple as i was trying (and failing) to do 2 things at once lol, As to a car company owning them being a bad thing,. i dont think it has to be but it can be. and VAG isnt just Audi, they key for me is honesty. selling a Mini with union jack lights when it is owned and manufactured in Germany is not honest. Playing on the thoroughbred all Italian image when its all owned by VAG with profits moving out of Italy into the the VAG group shareholding instead just isn't what it should be like for me. call me nostalgic or idealistic if u like. but i think words should be more than a sales pitch and marketing opportunities, Cheers for watching anyway mate, enjoy the ride 🙂
if you live in italy a lot of italian use honda or japanese scooter or motorcycle bcoz its more reliable.... #torvstv
I'm sure they do 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, 🙂Enjoy the ride
What's your point
Harley, Triumph,Aprillia,KTM don't make scooters.🤦
Ferraris, Lamborghini, Maserati, Porche,Jaguar these aren't all reliable but people still buy them.
Rather have something that I love to own and ride with all its faults than some bland soulless mechanical perfection if it actually exists
@@ianlaker6980 no one perfect bike for everyone even if there was a perfect bike, they all have flaws. as you can see from the comments though some people have had their eyes opened a bit. my point i guess, is don't believe the hype, whichever manufacturer it is. like ive said mate it would be boring if we all thought the same. cheers for watching , enjoy the ride
@@barebonesmc
Thanks
I wasn't comparing brands, what I'm saying is a perfect mechanical motorcycle doesn't exist and if it did it would be sterile and boring.
Honda are close but the only one that has stirred my soul is the SP2 the rest are competent and yes fast but bland
The RC30 probably the same as the SP2 but I've never ridden one.
My GSA 1200 is a touring workhorse as such it only gets serviced but not loved as the Ducati although it has never let me down in in 15 years
Love my F1 .
if we were all the same it would be a boring world mate, Ill stick with my Laverda for now :-) :-) Cheers for watching , ride free
Interesting video! I was never attracted to Ducati as a (now revived) Guzzisto. Friend was and is hard core Ducatisto and I admired the bikes but would never buy one. i prefer the practical engineering and (once) modularity of Guzzi. 25 years ago I sorted my Le Mans and it never missed a beat since, although I rode it hard. Oil, filters and fuel, that was all it needed for many years. I only hope the new ones keep up equally well
Great story mate, and good on you for keeping the old uns going, the SF2 is nearly done 🙂 🙂Cheers for adding your bit mate. Ride Free 🙂
Im a old man have put more than 500k miles on old BMW motorbike s if a person loves to ride motorcycles once in thair life thay have to own and ride a ducati. Ive still got a couple older bikes a 900ss sl. And hyper moto are my fave. I could afford the bike but not the maintenance so learned to work on them myself..
🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ive ridden plenty, each to their own, ill stick with my old Laverda for now 🙂 enjoy the ride
Yeah! You were right! I didn’t want to knows I lasted 1 min before I fell asleep
Well said, about time we heard some good old truth. To me I have always thought Ducati are over priced crap that cost a fortune to keep running on the road and as for Motogp
and WSBK they have been cheating with there bikes and the rules for so long now it's bringing corruption to a new level. The new Motogp bikes are becoming so ugly with all the
aero crap and squat devise they have on now, I'm losing so much interest in them. Cheers.
Interesting 🙂 Ive just uploaded a video you might find very interesting then 🙂 czcams.com/video/DIXa4Bkx1-A/video.html enjoy the ride mate
As a recent track test on a hot day revealed of the V4, reliable ball burner, it cut their track test short I have to see if I can find that one again? as they probably paid them to take it down or edit that part out or more likely threatened them with at the least not to give them bikes to test any more, probably both.
Given the hideous cost of replacing the belts. Unless they go back to bevel driven desmo valving, my chances of going for a ducati are about the same as Jimmy Savile and Saddam Hussein's chances of making a spit roast art house film with greta thornberg.
that made me giglle :-) thanks :-) cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
Saddam and Greta. Would have like to have seen those two discussing environmental/political issues...
although the statements have some undeniable facts, the interpretation is debatable. However, you are permitted you opinion.
this was my first go at this kind of video mate so i could have done better, my sense of humour isnt always obvious. if you watch the more recent Triumph one here you might see more what i was getting at. czcams.com/video/dDpRBpZezDM/video.html i am just not a fan of the bullshit marketing so often used today, and i do see Triumph KTM and VAG as the biggest culprits
l owned a bevel-drive 900 SS..made in Italia. in the late seventies. Back then Ducati wasn't really the motorcycling icon it is now. It was Italian exotica though, along with Moto Guzzi LeMans and Laverda..It had a big powerful ..(complicated) ..engine. It look beautiful, sounded great, albeit a little 'rattly' plus, handled very well when Japanese bikes had 'rubber' chassis, The down side was its finish. Okay for hot countries where l now live but the predominate weather in UK took its toll on poor electric and paintwork/ chrome.....Even back then they were expensive bikes to buy, 2200 pounds sterling. They demanded skilled mechanical knowhow to keep them running as the factory intended as well...Would l own a 900 SS now, nearly fifty years later.... damn right l would.
:-) cheers for sharing mate, enjoy the ride
I still have mine from new but I use to more to test how much pain my ankles and knees can stand in the yoga master class position required to change gear or apply the rear brake.
@@MotoTvWoodsFarm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nothing that HONDA might doesn't do. Look at the ABS of the CBR 1000 RR - Models 2009 up to 2016. They've put the ABS-Modulator between the engine and the manifold. Overheating of breakfluid is program and leads to complete malfunction. Proper change of breakfluid is a procedure of a couple of houres, as far as the breaklines were installed properly by the factory. Otherwise you've got a powerfull bike that won't stop at all ... Honda, the power of nightmares
they all have their own dark corners for sure mate :-) :-) Cheers for watching, and enjoy the ride :-)
One of the best CZcams video I’ve watched. Thank you. I purchased the first year of the 916. One of the best looking bike of all time and wished I kept it as a piece of art. As an ex Australian Superbike racer (on a GSXR-750). No matter what I did in adjusting the 916’s setup it just wasn’t the best handling bike, plus the heat! Sold it and replaced it with the first of the Fireblades. A significantly quicker, better handling bike straight out of the box. Looking forward to watching more. Thanks again. 👍😎🇦🇺
Cheers mate, welcome aboard. glad you enjoyed it. I do my best, enjoy the ride
I work on a lot of these, and rebuild 748s,multis,998s,848s...Their ideas are great, but a lot of times executed poorly. As a mechanic, I would never own one for every day riding. Too many probs to justify the cost of the thing.
As we would say "from the horses mouth " 😊 I hope that translates wherever you are 🙂 Cheers for watching mate 🙂 Ride free
Been saying it for years 916 is and always be one of the most beautiful bikes ever hands down 1995 was the year I got mine still have it with a shit load of mods
Tamburini was a master 🙂
Nothing stops the other teams from doing the same thing
true, but that just ends up with the one who has the deepest pockets winning every time, all gets a bit tedious, cheers for watching mate, ride free
I've owned several different brand of bikes and a Ducati multistrada and can honesty say nothing handles like an air cooled Ducati.
The old ones are just better engineered for me, Cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride :-)
im just thinking of buying my first ducati , a 2010 696 monster, should i or no.
Have to say I like the early monsters, and if I was going to buy a Ducati that is one of the only modern ones i would look at. Give it a ride and see how it suits you mate. Weigh up the pros and cons. I have a mate who has several older bikes and a Monster 750 (02 i think) as his everyday ride and he swears by it, but he does do all his own spanner work. Cheers for watching mate 🙂 Ride free
Audi did purchase Ducati... yes, they are owned by a German car manufacturer. But like other vehicles Audi own, the bike is still designed and manufactured largely in Italy. So they're still an Italian Motorcycle manufacturer. Just as Lamborghini are still an Italian car manufacturer owned by the German brand.
replacing Tamburini and Terblanche with robots just isn't the same though, they were masters, just look at the new Monster, its a horrible ugly brute in comparison to the original parts bin one, and put a 916 at the side of a Panigale and I know which I would take any day :-):-) cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride
@BAREBONESMC great point. Tamburini was one of a kind, though. Terblanche designed one of the most hated Ducatis ever built, the 999, which I absolutely loved by the way. I owned a 999s myself and really miss it. I now have the last of the Agusta F4s designed by Tamburini, the 312RR. I guess Ducati tried to go back to its roots with the 1098 and subsequent models.
@@funcool32 doesnt surprise me that i like tone of the most hated Ducatis lol, i would say the 999 is one of the most vivid "Statement" bikes ever made for sure 🙂
Hi
Ducati behaviour what do you expect from a VAG group company,
I agree the old bevel drive bikes were beautiful unlike any of the rubber band drive but beauty is in the eye of the beholder I still think a gold star looks better than a h2 or bussa or anything made after 1990. As for high tech I don't think any more than any other manufacturer they only have one trick the desmo thing, is it really such an advantage there are many engines able to run to speeds just as high as any ducati. No I'm not a hater just see things for what they are
:-) cheers for adding your piece mate, enjoy the ride
Ducati, if your not cheating your not tring hard enough.
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The recent Ducati line up is great. They are very reliable.
if you notice mate i didnt actually criticise any of the bikes, i love Italian bikes in general, long time Cagiva and Laverda owner and i have an Aprilia too. the issue to me is pretending to be something you arent and using less than honest sales and marketing tactics
Well they are German owned so is that really surprising ?
As a recent track test on a hot day revealed, reliable ball burner, I have to see if I can find that one again? as they probably paid them to take it down or edit that part out or more likely threatened them with at the least not to give them bikes to test any more.
Yes!! totally agree, and I’m still happy to pay $$$$&$ for my bikes!! Having been around motorbikes for the last 25yrs! There’s something Ducati has, that other bikes don’t!! Yes I’ve owned other brand bikes, but not for long, as
each to their own mate, I know plenty of die hard Ducati owners, I do prefer the older ones though 🙂 have a good day
@@barebonesmc
I’m have all the parts of my old 748 (race bike) building a 996 eventually ♥️ but those old Super-bikes are the finicky ones especially my 749!!
I’ve owned a 2012 Diavel for the last 7yrs and an 03 St2 before that, no real issues!! Maintenance isn’t that bad with the new ones. Most service intervals are 12-14kmi if not a Superbike, even my new Panigale is in 7500k intervals🤷♂️
@@rickeco4tango33 if we were all the same it would be boring mate :-) one of the Laverdas i found was sharing a heated garage with a 749R. has tamburinis best designs. and finicky or not, i would still choose it over a newer one, have a good day mate
@@barebonesmc
Well friend, I have all my parts of my 749s could build you something for a price?? The 999/749! was different when it came out, but got a lot of hate, following that 916era of super bikes!!
If your just riding for fun they should do just fine!! Commuting and track days, is what did mine in!🤷♂️🤔 but after 45k come to think of it!
@@rickeco4tango33 cheers, ive got enough as it is though lol. been clearing them out in recent years gradually 🙂 The Laverda and Aprilia will keep me occupied 🙂
Lol... 😂 Yup indeed. Every Ducati I had. Burns at least the right knee. I even have a 20 centimeter scar. the 888, the 999 also the backside got glowing hot in the summer. And now even my Diavel both legs when driving slow. I know Ducati has a lot of mistakes. I do repairs and maintenance myself. And only costs me the parts. So why so in love with those machines? Well, it's an unruly lady. But once tamed, the sound, the powerband. A Ducati sings when you tear it right. And certainly the 888 with termignonis, and dry clutch. A nutcracker, yes. But so rewarding. In 1992 I drove it from Kortrijk to Bologna. Really hell.... It's something like overly spicy "Bucatini all Amatriciana". An overdose of serotonin. O And BTW; I am not rich. But work overtime and save for it.
I have a 93 Strada 888 with full race Silmoto exhaust system and road setup suspension.
Had it 23 years still beats all the bland inline fours for soul.
The only thing that has gone wrong is the regulator and that's a common fault.
Out of my collection it is the last bike to sell.
@@ianlaker6980 I owned one too. And I lost him in a divorce. And indeed no other Ducati since then gave me the pleasure the 888 did.
@@MoonBernie sorry for you're loss🥺
I've ridden them all upto the 1098 after that they just got silly mad.
The 888 sits nicely between the 748 & 916.
The engine is very 2 stroke in its delivery power.
Mines dyno'd at 96.75 Bhp at the wheel yet still tops 155mph.
You can use every single HPower 😎
They're unjustifiably expensive. A twelve year old 1198 can cost the same as a six year old RSV4. The aprilia is superior in every way.
I can hear the Ducatisti howling at your door lol
@@barebonesmc I speak from experience, I've an 1198 & RSV4. The 1198 feels barbaric compared to the aprilia. Variety is the spice...
@@mrpaulm3014 indeed it is mate :-) enjoy them, have to say the gen 1 RSV twin is one of my favourite bikes (and engines) and I do love my Pegaso Cube, but i always had a bit of a soft spot for Rotax engines 🙂
Nowadays the Ducati riders are total different as in the 70ties and 80ties. I bought my first Duc 1979, 900 SD Darmah and continued with Ducatis since now. But I never would buy a Ducati build after 2000. Multistrada etc is not my world.
i can relate, i went on the multistrada enduro experience and really wanted to like it but it was ridiculous. even dialled back as much as they could, off road you just spent all your time trying to hold it back, exhausting and really not enjoyable, even when i wasnt going to have to pay for any repairs lol 🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
would like to put the new v-max engine on this chassie..or create a 2-stroke v5 with 250cc on each cylinder creating a 1250cc 2 stroke monster or go real bonkers and do a 300cc and that will do a 1500cc beast.
Thanks heaps for this information. I have never liked Ducati motorcycles . I have not understood why my recent return to motogp and superbike race veiwing has seen limited japenese bikes and massive amounts of Ducatis.. When I have always held the veiw that Japanese manufacturers build the best bikes. But please don't tell me anything bad about yamaha. Ha ha. I am a Yamaha nut... Thanks heaps again..👍
lol, Yamaha were at war with themselves in the 80s 🙂 AGO vs The Evil Empire 🤣🤣🤣 Cheers for watching mate, enjoy the ride😁
I’ve owned a LOT of motorcycles in the last 20 years- Ducati and otherwise. I currently own 8 motorcycles- 3 of them Ducati, ranging greatly in model year. First, I’ll point out that anyone in the USA (typically largest market) will hear that you have an accent. I’m not correcting you, buts it’s very possible that owners in other countries don’t face the same stereotypes that you propose you experience in yours as Ducati owners. Secondly, if you’re spending thousands on a motorcycle, do 10 seconds of research. If you’re commonly in traffic, maybe search coolest motorcycles to ride. Buy the right bike for you instead of bashing a manufacturer. Same with service. Again, I’ve owned a LOT of Ducatis. Service isn’t THAT bad. You point out heritage and where some models are manufactured… how about other brands? There are a VERY few who have not done this- most having manufacturing taking place not in the country of the brand. So why grill Ducati for it? I’m 99.9% that some of your information is not accurate as well- about timing of the company’s purchasing, years/ models of problems, racing rules, etc. I’ll stop there, but I have had amazing experiences on the brand- from adventure riding to racing. No brand is more exciting and fun to ride. I currently own Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, BMW, Aprilia, and 3 Ducatis, and the list more than triples that in the last 22 years. Speaking from experience.
We are all different and have different experiences mate. Also, I didnt say other brands didnt do it. I thought i was pretty obvious saying they do. but not many shout the heritage card as loud. as someone else said, its like mini's with the union jack rear lights when they are made in Germany. I guess one of the reasons it gets to me is because i loved the bevel drive Ducati's so much. and yes. I put my hand up on the dates mistake, it is in one of the comment replies. my notes were right, the only thing i can think is i was thinking about something else at the same time and got the dates mixed up. to be clear, as you say, there are few companies that dont do things similarly. I guess I just hope there will be again one day or we will all be sat on variations of the same bikes before long, cheers
A Chinese built Ducati would likely be more reliable..
@@lanesaarloos281 Ouch lol. thats harsh 🙂
I did not realize that Ducati was now a VW. That is truly disappointing.
have been for years mate, they just dont shout about it (understandably) 🙂cheers for watching , ride free
Not my pocket
being honest if the right bevel drive single came along i would be sorely tempted. but not the modern ones, ride free mate
My 92 super light absolutely destroyed my love of motorcycles... It was that much of a pile of crap it sat in the shed for 10 years as I wasn't interested in spending another cent on it...even the wheels( marvics) fell apart..I've owned 26 bikes in my time and I thought I was buying something special... they only built 650 of the things.....YEH REAL SPECIAL #524
sorry mate, I always liked the look of the Superlight but have never ridden one, not a good story though, cheers for watching, ride free
To be fair, the Marvic wheels aren't really roadworthy anyway. They do deteriorate with age.
@@thetonetosser so have I mate :-) 🤣🤣🤣
The 916 is really a timeless design but three spoke wheels??? Wtf guy...
Id take the 749 anytime :-)
Had to be said. I've been riding Ducati for a very long time and it pains me that all this is coming to an end. Thanks to a greedy Ducati dealer screwing me at every opportunity. I'm selling the M1100 and buy a Yammy MT 900 SP.
thanks for commenting mate, sorry you had the issue many seem to🙂cheers for watching, enjoy the ride
@@barebonesmc thanx buddy all the best
Anybody any idea why their MOTOGP bikes seem to have much more power than their rivals?
I think in reality its about how that power is put down. however sticky the tyres are 250bhp through a patch the size of a credit card will always spin the wheels however good the rider is, so it becomes an electronics arms race more than a search for more power now, hence the aero too. cheers for watching mate , enjoy the ride 🙂
In Holland we have a saying: Ducati..Stuk gaat ie! That's dutch for it breaks down..
lol i love the Dutch sense of humour :-) Cheers for watching mate, and enjoy the ride :-)
@@barebonesmc Yes nice video. I love Ducati.. They are beautiful. But they seem so weird.. Battery on the side in a rack. Not under the seat like alll other bikes.. Anyway, I grew up with japanese bikes.. In that time you hardly ever saw any of them Duc's. But when we did.. it was sensational! The sound, the red paint..
@@BEAN10 :-) Cheers for watching mate, ride free
I honestly don't get the point of your complaints.
Would you buy a Lamborghine or Bentley (both Volkswagen, too) and complain that the service at Skoda is cheaper ?
You need to know what you actually want.
I started with a Pantah 600, first series frame #112, had a 1995 900SS and now a 1299S, one of the very last ones.
All have been beauties at their times and still are, outperforming the competition if ridden as supposed to.
Divas, to be taken care of, just as race bikes require.
The Pantah was a revolution, not only for Ducati, race bike in disguise, no homogolation at that time, single approval only and the add-ons to make it roadworthy were not really executed with love to detail.
But, with the mandatory open intakes, single-walled manifold, short dual Conti mufflers and some jetting as well as service, e.g. weekly cleaning of the Dellortos' float chambers and frequent synchronization, she did really run, well, very well. For well over 100k kms.
The 900 SS from 1995 was excellent for fast road riding. The 1299 can, in my opinion, only be ridden in its's performance window on track days, e.g. Nordschleife or some other track.
In my experience you might sense the expertise and dedication of the Ducati engineers and test riders only when you get, or try to get, close to the limit.
If you are as an owner not ready to commit time, ressources and love, don't even buy one. But you'll miss a lot.
I had no trouble road bikes like the BMW F800S (with suspension upgrades and an SR racing exhaust attached this was quite nice) and the perfectly rideable Super Sport bikes, the Daytona 675R.
Fine, but nothing gets as exiting and breathtaking as a sports Ducati.
I have to correct myself. The KTMs also perform better the faster and harder they are ridden. But that is another story.
dont get me started on KTM lol. Why the hell will they only offer a LIMITED 12 month guarantee when CF Moto will put a 4 year Guarantee on the same tech? built in the same factory? I do love the old Pantah and many of the other Ducati's although personally, i'll stick with my Laverda :-) We all have our own perspective. be boring if we all thought the same way, cheers for watching
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glad you appreciated it mate, enjoy the ride
As I have always thought with ducati, where racing is concerned, it's the old adage of its my football and if I can't win I'm taking my ball home., but then again hondas been just as bad in the past.
yep, they have, and others. I guess Ducati are just more blatant about it than some others and I do feel like its getting worse, have a good day anyway mate, ride free
Which model Honda are you referring too?
@@lanesaarloos281 I am talking about Honda in general, where racing is concerned, they have a habit the same as ducati for flooding the grids with there bikes to increase there chances of winning. A bike that comes to mind from Honda was the rc 30 vfr 750 r, a bike that was so close to there endurance machine and also about £ 3000 more than the other current bikes and basically unless you were on one of these, your chances of success were not good, and of course for ducati there was the 916 and the same thing happened. Enough said.
Isn't bending the rules actually breaking the rules?
To me and you maybe. Lets face it Ferrari have done the same with F1 for years, the money they bring in seems to allow for certain infractions shall we call them lol how far can you bend something before it breaks? 🤣 Cheers for watching mate
@@barebonesmc If you're not cheating you're not trying hard enough
@@tylerbreeden7735 said with the voice of a true Ducatista 🙂 I know they arent alone too mate. they all do it to a certain extent. Ducati are just brazen about it sometimes 🙂 and KTM seem to be following suit now too lol. I guess a case of if you cant beat em join em 🙂Moto 2 is the real mess right now lol, umpteen theoretical manufacturers that have absolutely nothing to do with any of the bikes that are racing???? triumph engines in Kalex chassis with an anyone who'll pay can stick their badge on it approach i think now MV/Forward racing are gone other than the 1 Boscoscura rider it might as well be badged a one make series now. cheers for watching anyway mate. have a good un
Wow, that was honest! Most of it was essentially news to me too.
glad you enjoyed it mate, 🙂 cheers for watching, ride free
Scrambler is a spin off from Ducati it doesn’t say Ducati on the bike and they are loading the field because they can and Honda can do the same but they don’t because they don’t like to share secrets and and only want there factory team to win so again not Ducati’s fault
Also you don’t mention that Ducati AKA VW is spending millions to beat Honda the big bump hides all the tec to allow the bike to squat down at the start and before every turn making the bike turn in easily also they are probably using hydraulic valves
New era new technology
just an opinion mate :-) Cheers for watching, ride free
All true ... but the 916 is still beautiful.
indeed mate. cheers for watching , enjoy the ride 🙂
If it is Italic in design or origin then it's usually just the looks, ergonomics is none, and failure are inbuilt into the system, buttons stop working or simply falls off. It's just an overpriced fancy name...
I have to say generalisations rarely have more than a grain of truth mate. My 50 year old Laverda has the same nippon denso switches and electrics as the Honda CB range and it all still works fine 50 years later, and the riding position etc are more adjustable than most bikes so you make it suit the way you ride, easy, so SOME Italians maybe, but not all by any means