Hi there Jay.... just wanted to give you a thanks, having watched your video. I recently had the intermediate shaft replaced, the knocking stopped and the steering improved..... BUT, after seeing your video, thought it would be crazy not to make that even stronger. I own a 2014 stock Ram 3500 long box crew cab with a 1500 lb camper on it.....no plans to lift it, big enough for me as it is...So I ended up getting the brace from Rough Country, that ad. came up, and I went for it... $138.00, no tax, or shipping, and delivered in 2 days. Had it installed yesterday, the mechanic said it was a very smart move, and would really improve the steering feel....You said you felt the difference on 90 degree turns, you first observation..I drove 45 miles on the interstate, then went onto a really bad California pot holed road they refuse to fix, so they patch it, making it worse....holy shit....it was amazing...the change in the overall ride was night and day. No more of that looseness...actually felt I could drive faster without cursing about the mess the road is in...This brace makes the truck feel like brand new....better in fact. Ram owners...do yourselves a favour...this brace has really changed that ok steering to superb control....Thanks Jay..keep doing the upgrades and showing us what you are doing with your build
Best install video related to this brace. Side note: My truck pitman arm nut needed a 1-11/16" socket. 2019 3500 gas drw. Just FYI for anyone else out there.
You will also need to buy a REDHEAD steering box. Redhead has replaced bushings for needle bearings. With both installed you will have a solid steering system.
Clean simple install, thanks for content, on my to so list.. oh and that 1/2" drive Milwaukee Impact is saweeet... use it to remove and Install big lag screws to the railroad ties for our components on the rail road. Removes old stubborn bolts and nuts and if not breaks them, powerful break/loosening strength..you'll love it for your builds to come.
I have heard the short stearing box stabilize that only attaches to one frame rail is better because it isn't moving or twisting when the frame does... Just a thought.
Hmm I have no issues with steering on my 2012 with 90k. Leveled on 35’s. But my 04 even with a new steering box was always pretty loose with the brace too.
Great video and info. Even though I am a dedicated Ram owner because I love the Cummins Turbo diesel, I still have an issue with them not completing their trucks fully from manufacturing to customer, particularly because of all the after market products I have to add to ensure that my truck won’t fall apart if I do truck stuff like what a truck was supposed to be for in the first place.
The real test is going over a cloverleaf bypass bridge and hit a bump and see if the death loose goose is still there. I’ve got a 2020 Ram 3500 6.7 and it’s dangerous as hell especially if towing a big trailer or wet out.
2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Cummin, leveled sitting on 35x12.5x18’s , I’m a full time RVer, constantly towing a 36’ Bighorn 5th wheel. I do have a dual Bilstein steering stabilizer, can I still add this or will the steering stabilizer interfere? Thanks for any input. Will be in Oregon in 3 weeks
My 2012 Ram 2500 had drop brackets for the sway bar that came with the lift kit. Lift is a Tuff Country 4.5". What would be the correct way to install this item with the drop brackets?
Hey Jay , great vid Bro . Most HD factory parts alone run more to replace than this kit. Was this kit meant to bypass the need for stabilizer shock set ups ? My 2016 has a recall on the drag link coupler. No fix available yet till April ,so looking at these types of upgrades in the near future. I do alot of offroading .. Will hit up CJC if I do buy anything . Look forward to all your build vids . Have a great weekend.
Did mine 4 yrs ago now I am replacing it probably cause I forgot to grease it I used to do it every oil change but I don’t remember the last time I greased it and the bearing housing cracked bummer
Nice mod! I wonder if my buddy Mick has one of theses on his lifted Ram. I will send him a link... I don't know if you have seen my last video on Amsoil. Got some cool footage of his lifted beast in the video. I think you would like his truck! Check it out....
Mopar sells a virtually identical brace with their name on it. If anything, I’d think they’d be happy to see a customer eliminating a weak-link that they might otherwise wind up having to replace under warranty.
As loose as the factory pitman arm nut is on most of these trucks going back on with new nut for steering brace proper torque is not required. Just get the thing tight AF
This brace would eliminate any benefit of the carli sway bar. The carli bar allows for more freedom from side to side by essentially giving a lower spring rate than the factory bar twists. This brace bolts both sides of the frame together with a solid square bar, also why your steering instantly feels more responsive after installing. After installing this style of steering box brace, the carli sway bar would be a waste of money.
My truck has a 6 inch lift with 37’s on it and it gets a lot of play with the steering box. Im about to replace that steering box with a new one and was wondering if this brace would help it?
Anyone can help me out here. I’ve got a 2016 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 in it. It makes a very noticeable tick at idle. Also, when accelerating, there is a noticeable rattle sound. Is this normal or should be concerned? Is there anything I can do to fix it? Any help would be appreciated.
Can you put a link to the part in the comments somewhere? The #istillcallthesepoundsymbols make it impossible to open the video description. Cool video, I just rebuilt the front end of my 06, and would love to tighten the steering up a little more.
@@JayFlatOut Will you be doing a review on the Stealth Performance module ( I assume so)? I've really been thinking of getting one for my '18 Ram 3500 lately, as I'm not sure I want to toss the powertrain warranty out the window right away haha. I'd really appreciate it, thank you and have a great day!
@@JasonWaterfalls13 i want to and plan on doing the stealth performance module myself in the future. My truck just turned over 5,000 miles yesterday and if i were to put in the stealth module now i would have to upgrade my clutch right away because it would last less than 10K. Definitely Worth the money tho if you have a Cummins.
It would be difficult for superman to achieve 190 ft pounds of torque, I think is is safe to assume that tightening that nut as much as you can without the use of a cheater is somewhere around 150 to 170 ft lbs...
Lets think about this. I don’t have the proper size socket so I go to by one at NAPA, they don’t have one so I go to Harbor Freight and by a giant adjustable wrench. I use the adjustable wrench to remove the existing nut 👍. I use an electric impact wrench to remove existing bolts 👍. Now to install my new parts I use my adjustable wrench(Crescent is a brand, not a type of wrench) with an extra grunt and blue thread loc to make sure it’s properly tightened. Then I use the same adjustable wrench and my electric impact to install the remaining parts and tighten the bolts / screws. I make sure to point out that I inspect and clean my tools prior to placing them back in my pristine toolbox. You’re a joke, you were too cheap to by the proper socket so you could reinstall to the proper OEM specs and even though you probably had the correct tools for the smaller size nuts and bolts you were lazy and just impacted it back together. I hope your shoddy work doesn’t fall apart and kill an innocent person. I also hope that others watching see what you did and think WTF.
Jay Flat Out I just put some on my Ecodiesel, I basically copied your last build. What’s the mileage difference between your previous 1500 and what your 2500 is getting now ?
Hi there Jay.... just wanted to give you a thanks, having watched your video. I recently had the intermediate shaft replaced, the knocking stopped and the steering improved..... BUT, after seeing your video, thought it would be crazy not to make that even stronger. I own a 2014 stock Ram 3500 long box crew cab with a 1500 lb camper on it.....no plans to lift it, big enough for me as it is...So I ended up getting the brace from Rough Country, that ad. came up, and I went for it... $138.00, no tax, or shipping, and delivered in 2 days. Had it installed yesterday, the mechanic said it was a very smart move, and would really improve the steering feel....You said you felt the difference on 90 degree turns, you first observation..I drove 45 miles on the interstate, then went onto a really bad California pot holed road they refuse to fix, so they patch it, making it worse....holy shit....it was amazing...the change in the overall ride was night and day. No more of that looseness...actually felt I could drive faster without cursing about the mess the road is in...This brace makes the truck feel like brand new....better in fact. Ram owners...do yourselves a favour...this brace has really changed that ok steering to superb control....Thanks Jay..keep doing the upgrades and showing us what you are doing with your build
Hey Jay thanks for a positive and simple to the point video. Very illustrative for new beginners like myself on diesel arena.
Best install video related to this brace. Side note: My truck pitman arm nut needed a 1-11/16" socket. 2019 3500 gas drw. Just FYI for anyone else out there.
WOW!!!! what an amazing set up you have in your tool boxes.
That was the 1st upgrade I did. Even on a truck with only 1000 miles on it I coould feel the difference.
They are one of the most simple, yet effective modifications you can do I think.
Love the truck and I am excited to see what comes next. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching :)
I just added the Thuren 2in leveling springs/fox shocks on my 2018 Ram (302 Hemi), I probably should do this before i upgrade to 35's.
Great video, really well presented and concise! Thank you for the info man!
No worries buddy thanks for watching.
Think I’m gonna get me one. Probably a dual steering too will help out when I’m towing.
Yeah Carli has a high and low mount option with adjustable nitrogen pressure.
You will also need to buy a REDHEAD steering box. Redhead has replaced bushings for needle bearings. With both installed you will have a solid steering system.
Clean simple install, thanks for content, on my to so list.. oh and that 1/2" drive Milwaukee Impact is saweeet... use it to remove and Install big lag screws to the railroad ties for our components on the rail road. Removes old stubborn bolts and nuts and if not breaks them, powerful break/loosening strength..you'll love it for your builds to come.
Thanks for the comment buddy I love the impact so far
I have heard the short stearing box stabilize that only attaches to one frame rail is better because it isn't moving or twisting when the frame does... Just a thought.
Haha. I got a monster adj wrench at Harbor Freight when I did my DOR steering brace last year.
Very nice vid straight forward 👌
Hmm I have no issues with steering on my 2012 with 90k. Leveled on 35’s. But my 04 even with a new steering box was always pretty loose with the brace too.
Sick tool box sir
Thanks man I love it
Thanks for video I gotta do this to cure the Death Wobble on Dodge 3500
Did it fix it?
My steering box locked up and tore through the frame, After I weld the frame back I'm installing one of these to prevent that from happening again
Great video and info.
Even though I am a dedicated Ram owner because I love the Cummins Turbo diesel, I still have an issue with them not completing their trucks fully from manufacturing to customer, particularly because of all the after market products I have to add to ensure that my truck won’t fall apart if I do truck stuff like what a truck was supposed to be for in the first place.
The real test is going over a cloverleaf bypass bridge and hit a bump and see if the death loose goose is still there. I’ve got a 2020 Ram 3500 6.7 and it’s dangerous as hell especially if towing a big trailer or wet out.
2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Cummin, leveled sitting on 35x12.5x18’s , I’m a full time RVer, constantly towing a 36’ Bighorn 5th wheel. I do have a dual Bilstein steering stabilizer, can I still add this or will the steering stabilizer interfere? Thanks for any input. Will be in Oregon in 3 weeks
Does anybody know if i can install something like it for my 2017 ram 1500??
My 2012 Ram 2500 had drop brackets for the sway bar that came with the lift kit. Lift is a Tuff Country 4.5". What would be the correct way to install this item with the drop brackets?
After putting on bigger wheels and tiresWhat did you change both differential gears to?
Hey Jay , great vid Bro . Most HD factory parts alone run more to replace than this kit. Was this kit meant to bypass the need for stabilizer shock set ups ? My 2016 has a recall on the drag link coupler. No fix available yet till April ,so looking at these types of upgrades in the near future. I do alot of offroading .. Will hit up CJC if I do buy anything . Look forward to all your build vids . Have a great weekend.
You too brother glad you still are watching :)
Can that also be used with extended sway bar links?
Did mine 4 yrs ago now I am replacing it probably cause I forgot to grease it I used to do it every oil change but I don’t remember the last time I greased it and the bearing housing cracked bummer
Is this kit the same as like a steering stabilizer kit? I was debating the rough country one
I saw your truck at Royalty Exotics a few days ago I wanted to stop and say hi but wasn't sure if you were busy.
Shoulda came in man
Nice mod! I wonder if my buddy Mick has one of theses on his lifted Ram. I will send him a link... I don't know if you have seen my last video on Amsoil. Got some cool footage of his lifted beast in the video. I think you would like his truck! Check it out....
Do you know if this mod will work with the Thuren Sway bar?
Yeeeeaaaaah buddy
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Legit was looking to order one of these this week hahah so crazy
Get it!
I'm looking to buy a 2500 Cummins. Any problems with the Cummins motor.
Enjoyed the video. How does the dealer view a steering add-on like this in terms of voiding warranty coverage on a new rig?
This piece is so negligible you should never have an issue
Mopar sells a virtually identical brace with their name on it. If anything, I’d think they’d be happy to see a customer eliminating a weak-link that they might otherwise wind up having to replace under warranty.
What rear end ratio do you have? will you be changing it now that you have the 37s?
This the stock gears, rear end will stay the same for now.
Interesting, I just spoke to cjc and they advised that that product is not needed on the newer RAMs.
If your tires are always on pavement, yeah don’t waste your money. Oversize tires and lease road bumps daily will wear down steering box.
As loose as the factory pitman arm nut is on most of these trucks going back on with new nut for steering brace proper torque is not required. Just get the thing tight AF
Are you in Oregon?. I noticed your license plate. I live in Eugene.
Hey jay are you planning on adding Carli sway bar? Would you happen to know if this steering brace work with Carli sway bar ?
This brace would eliminate any benefit of the carli sway bar. The carli bar allows for more freedom from side to side by essentially giving a lower spring rate than the factory bar twists. This brace bolts both sides of the frame together with a solid square bar, also why your steering instantly feels more responsive after installing. After installing this style of steering box brace, the carli sway bar would be a waste of money.
@@phillturcotte4767 makes sense
@@Mrfitrider1 It works fine with the Carli sway bar, everything that guy said is wrong.
Yes it will work
My truck has a 6 inch lift with 37’s on it and it gets a lot of play with the steering box. Im about to replace that steering box with a new one and was wondering if this brace would help it?
Yes it will
Are you going to put a light bar in the bumper?
Stay tuned ;-)
Would this work with a 2012 Ram 1500 4x2
4x2 has a different setup. All 1500 4x2 and 4x4 use a different setup. This is for 4x4 2500, 3500.
How many inch coils are you running on the front? And if any rear?
The link is in the description of the video, I believe they are a 2.5”
Anyone can help me out here. I’ve got a 2016 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 in it. It makes a very noticeable tick at idle. Also, when accelerating, there is a noticeable rattle sound. Is this normal or should be concerned? Is there anything I can do to fix it? Any help would be appreciated.
Go to a mechanic.
Will this work on my 6.4L as well.
Yes
What happened to the 1500 Ecodiesel?
She gone!
2500 hemi need this ?
That's the biggest adjustable wrench I have ever seen.
Lmao I had to buy it specially 😂😂
Does anyone know, will this prevent death wobble ?
It helps a good deal
You doing that carli sway bar? Been thinking of doing it but I’m waiting on your review if so.
I sure will be, waiting for the radius arms to come in stock and getting them at the same time!
Can you put a link to the part in the comments somewhere? The #istillcallthesepoundsymbols make it impossible to open the video description. Cool video, I just rebuilt the front end of my 06, and would love to tighten the steering up a little more.
It’s literally the fist link in the description, like I said multiple times
Right, but I can’t open the description because of the pound signs #️⃣ underneath.
bit.ly/SynergySteeringBrace
Perfect. Ordered. Thank you.
How you gonna torque to spec with a crescent wrench?
Don’t be annoying
Jay Flat Out don’t be annoyed.
Would you know if it will work on powerwagon 18? Or any one that has it?..
I don't see why not.
Is cause the power wagons have that sway bar “That disconnects”
Ohhh good point, I’d check with CJC Off Road they would be able to tell you
Sounds good thanks a lot👍
What mpg are you getting with those tires bro God Bless
13 city and 19 highway, went up with the stealth performance module
@@JayFlatOut Will you be doing a review on the Stealth Performance module ( I assume so)? I've really been thinking of getting one for my '18 Ram 3500 lately, as I'm not sure I want to toss the powertrain warranty out the window right away haha. I'd really appreciate it, thank you and have a great day!
@@JasonWaterfalls13 i want to and plan on doing the stealth performance module myself in the future. My truck just turned over 5,000 miles yesterday and if i were to put in the stealth module now i would have to upgrade my clutch right away because it would last less than 10K. Definitely Worth the money tho if you have a Cummins.
Jason Waterfalls the install and first thoughts video is filmed, just waiting to make it public.
2wd or 4x4?
Name of the product please
Yes you can obtain the correct torque value with that big ass adjustable wrench lol
It would be difficult for superman to achieve 190 ft pounds of torque, I think is is safe to assume that tightening that nut as much as you can without the use of a cheater is somewhere around 150 to 170 ft lbs...
That Milwaukee is not electric it's cordless but a good video though👍
Lets think about this. I don’t have the proper size socket so I go to by one at NAPA, they don’t have one so I go to Harbor Freight and by a giant adjustable wrench. I use the adjustable wrench to remove the existing nut 👍. I use an electric impact wrench to remove existing bolts 👍. Now to install my new parts I use my adjustable wrench(Crescent is a brand, not a type of wrench) with an extra grunt and blue thread loc to make sure it’s properly tightened. Then I use the same adjustable wrench and my electric impact to install the remaining parts and tighten the bolts / screws.
I make sure to point out that I inspect and clean my tools prior to placing them back in my pristine toolbox.
You’re a joke, you were too cheap to by the proper socket so you could reinstall to the proper OEM specs and even though you probably had the correct tools for the smaller size nuts and bolts you were lazy and just impacted it back together.
I hope your shoddy work doesn’t fall apart and kill an innocent person. I also hope that others watching see what you did and think WTF.
SHOULDA USED A PIPE WRENCH
That thing needs AMP steps ASAP.
Too expensive, need a sponsorship 😂
Jay Flat Out I just put some on my Ecodiesel, I basically copied your last build. What’s the mileage difference between your previous 1500 and what your 2500 is getting now ?
it's about 3mpg less
Jay Flat Out seems like the Ecodiesel isnt that eco after all....
Amp steps are garbage. I bought a set and had them fixed 50 times in 3 years then threw them away and got nerf bars.
Why so much I bought one off eBay 40 bucks it's the same one. Same parts
I'm surprised you don't have a Milwaukee sweatshirt with a Milwaukee grease gun and a Milwaukee sponsorship. Rookie.
Who the shit owns a truck and says "all work should be carried out by a professional"?
It’s called a disclaimer fuck boy
Spends thousands on snap on shit but can’t buy the correct socket to properly torque a pitman arm but 🤣😂🤦♂️
I bought this part put on my ram 2018 and still wobble like.....
Don't buy it go to a pro mechanic it si a waste of money
Paint on it is crap. And the brace goes above the sway bar....not below as stated.
Let me guess you have the mega rough country kit 😂😂😂😂
lol dude u payed 3 times more for this its 60$ lol
Junk