Some of us know exactly where this is going... and very soon too. Step back and look at the bigger picture, a new level of control and manipulation is coming to a screen near you.
I know! If an orb get's hacked then the hacker can make unlimited number of "real" human accounts. At that moment the purpose of the project drops to 0.
LOL so dramatic. List one single risk of giving your iris data to a company? List one way it will lead to “control and manipulation “. People are paranoid yet cannot think critically to save their lives
@@Quinten372 coin scammers is what non-technical people call to those that have profited from promoting or creating cryptocoins to gather a bunch of money and then run away. That's what you get with decentralization
What intrigues me, as someone from the global south… is how some Westerners will pour a billion into a complex, but not apex problem. And ironically not use that same money to solve a simple actual apex problem. What do l mean? Here are two problems 1. Identity in the wake of AI (complex, non-Apex problem). 2. Lack of decent wages in the global south (simple, Apex problem). Someone will ask me, how have you categorized the two problems? Well AI identity is a future issue…it’s not yet ubiquitous. Illegal migration from the global south to the west due to seeking perceived “greener pastures” IS a real current issue for both the global south and the west. Ironically, these tech industries multinationals utilize a lot of raw materials from the global south… which they exploit the labor markets to extract it at the cheapest possible price… to bring these materials over to the west for value addition to solve a future problem of their own creation. And we wonder why we are projecting a dystopian future? It’s a self fulfilling scenario, we are actively pursuing at breakneck speeds. Well. Don’t mind me. I’m just a Afrikan from (what did Trump call it?)…a feculence cavity country.
Having worked for a few of the big tech companies and starting and growing my own before selling it always intrigued me how some groups internally full of highly intellectual people formed cult like beliefs and sometimes actual fricken cults that think they know better than the rest of the world. These people remind me of this and it's giving me ptsd just watching this segment. Avoid these people, their false beliefs and empty words at all costs.
If everyone has a different belief, one of them will be right. And it's better to have someone who made the idea properly, safely, transparently, and most importantly, well regulated.
I mean, In 2 years ai images will be better than anything photography can make, in 5 years ai movies will make hollywood obsolete and in 10 years taxi drivers will become obsolete. Its not that far off...
Once you have the iris scan of a person, wouldn't it be possible, eventually, to mimic that in a humanoid face? It's possible to engineer an eyeball screen device where you can show any image for the iris...
From the whitepaper: ...inherent to biometric algorithms is the false acceptance of a user. The false acceptance rate is largely dependent upon the system's capacity to detect presentation attacks, which are attempts to deceive or spoof the verification process. While no biometric system is entirely impervious to such attacks, the important metric is the effort required for a successful attack. This consideration was fundamental to the conception of the Orb. Developing the Orb was a decision that did not come lightly. It represented a high-cost endeavor. However, from first principles, it was required to build the most inclusive yet secure verification of humanness and uniqueness. The Orb is designed to verify uniqueness with high accuracy, even in hostile contexts where the presence of malicious actors cannot be excluded. To accomplish this, the Orb is equipped with every viable camera sensor spanning the electromagnetic spectrum, complemented by suitable multispectral illumination. This enables the device to differentiate between fraudulent spoofing attempts and legitimate human interactions with a high degree of accuracy. The Orb is further equipped with a powerful computing unit to run several neural networks concurrently in real-time. These algorithms operate locally on the Orb to validate humaneness, while safeguarding user privacy. While no hardware system interacting with the physical world can achieve perfect security, the Orb is designed to set a high bar, particularly in defending against scalable attacks. The anti-fraud measures integrated into the Orb are refined constantly.
Super fascinating tech, Ashlee. Seems like the business model will evolve, but sometimes you have to take a leap forward and build the hardware to be ready to service the software shift that occurs in the blink of an eye.
The eye doc installed a tiny tube into the iris of one of my eyes to relive excess internal pressure. It goes around about one quarter of my iris. I'll bet this would tell the eye-scanner I am not who I say I am. "What d you mean, 'I can't have my Bitcoin?'"
The absurd $250M investment is the first red flag (Sam Altman is the 2nd). I have an infinitely more complex product and all I needed to start up was a $100k loan. Hardware and software is not difficult to manufacture. Servers and websites are dirt cheap to maintain even if you have millions of users.
@@bhreand Yes, he made a non-profit company a for profit one making a legal scheme. And he make a coup not to be fired from Open AI. He is a lier and a conman.
My math professor was working on a similar project for the UN and the Gates Foundation to track kids for healthcare in developing countries using footprints as unique identifiers. About a decade ago. It didn't work. The footprints changed too much as the kids grew.
the ultimate goal is full control, they are already doing it in China. digital money, blockchain, crypto and many other things have the same owner, and its not the blackrock but 1 family behind blackrock, the UN, Fed and other central banks, Musk, Gates, Rockefeller, I will not mention them here, let your googling skills do the rest.
10:56 "At the CURRENT point in time, we actually dont take anything" Absolutely the last thing i wanted to head was a sales pitch about how a startup collecting genetic data isn't selling my genetic data while only not ruling out the inevitable future of selling it to the governments around the world. We all know where this is heading and we know the consequences, China showed the world years ago.
Why is this any different from irisguard or any blockchain + iris identification system. What factor makes it unique-- is it the fear mongering ai apocalypse, the goofy coin name, the cumbersome ball or sam altman. Bloomberg why do you even platform these guys?
Why does the interviewer sound afraid of asking questions especially the one starting at 10:16 ?? Something is way off with this company and the host, give us some insight on how this company approached you?
Just playing devils advocate here, you trust the government? I personally think the tech goes too far, irrespective of which centralised entity holds your data. Respectfully, I think the USA should start with simply showing your drivers licence and some sort of registry before going all dystopian for something like voting. Peace
@@l3358no I dont trust them but they already have photos fingerprints and all my medical and legal records. This is a matter of convenience I would feel a lot better not having to remember to take my plastic id cards with me all the time and I would not need to worry about loosing them.
I understand what you mean, these should be taken on by the government, but the type of governance a country has adopted makes this significantly more complex. Of the ~200 countries, there is a full spectrum of desire for monitoring from a advanced technology state such as China to a country with no infrastructure (thus no desire assumed) such as some of the oceanic countries. The last comment in the video was the most enlightening. Trading privacy for security is in our future and is likely inevitable. As a people, we will need to take multiple stabs at this problem and this shiny orb might indeed be a likely future.
Even "orb design is open source", wait till you have business model and than Sam closes it day 1. Also "At current point of time you don't give up anything" I guess this guy does not hear him self...
The hardware is cool, but the only chance this doesn't move us towards dystopian society is if its open source down to the silicon so it can be vetted.
Ashlee got another level of presentation skill... Love the way He started the video... Also editing & camera guy did their best... So much to learn not only about world but also about presentation & story telling 🫡
funny when a lot of people share the same concerns. makes me quite optimistic that we'll generate a plethora of solutions. imagine having a concern thst no one else shared lol crazy
There are many people in India who do not have their KYC done. World Coin requests you to please come to India and get all of us to do our KYC by order
Since no actual data is being retained and storage is chunked distributed the intent of technology design is clear. It can go two ways: 1. AI stagnates or never gets to AGI or humanoids and the eye becomes redundant. 2. AI Humanoids happen within the century, and we are glad the eye exists to recognise the difference, globally.
Que bien que la hicieron los dueños de Worlcoin tienen razón es un proyecto muy importante que no quedará en la nada como otros. y se merecen todo el éxito por haber ayudado a tanta gente en el mundo. GRACIAS!
Should a private organization be allowed to have that level of data. Most forms of biometrics currently are on device and only governments collect and store your biometrics for longer term. This is a major deviation from that model. We don't know the security implications of this and could prove fatal.
I think the point they are trying to make here is that the company doesn't have that data. I don't fully understand it yet but it is akin to bitcoin etc, decentralised in some way.
They just told you that they will not keep the data of your irises. In fact, it never really gets stored, it only goes through the Ethereum decentralized chain (that is being held up by a few different computer devices across the globe by the PEOPLE) to verify that you're a human. Ethereum doesn't have an owner. It's a chain being held up by the people. Hope it makes sense.
"biometrics are key to proving personhood" yikes, I think we can foresee where all this may be heading. And we have to gall to criticize China for its state surveillance apparatus.
Why not available in India i used many months ago but every time not available in India .. so what about i used this it gone world coin lost and reduse ...do something for available in India 🇮🇳
Some of us know exactly where this is going... and very soon too. Step back and look at the bigger picture, a new level of control and manipulation is coming to a screen near you.
I know!
If an orb get's hacked then the hacker can make unlimited number of "real" human accounts.
At that moment the purpose of the project drops to 0.
@@expioreris, the orb is a hardware, it just needs to get stolen and boom
i mean as sincerely as possible. what you fear is already here.
but its not that bad.
LOL so dramatic. List one single risk of giving your iris data to a company? List one way it will lead to “control and manipulation “.
People are paranoid yet cannot think critically to save their lives
I even said it out load in my comment
Why did they call it Worldcoin? I can´t take them serious after thousands of coin scammers.
coin scammers?
Coin doesn’t equal the word scammer
@@Quinten372 coin scammers is what non-technical people call to those that have profited from promoting or creating cryptocoins to gather a bunch of money and then run away. That's what you get with decentralization
Anything related to coin, crypto, NFT, fiancial advisor, etc is automatically scam for me.
@@mine.moment sounds very intelligent
World coins are the smartest guys behind it. Am happy I managed to become a member
What intrigues me, as someone from the global south… is how some Westerners will pour a billion into a complex, but not apex problem. And ironically not use that same money to solve a simple actual apex problem.
What do l mean? Here are two problems
1. Identity in the wake of AI (complex, non-Apex problem).
2. Lack of decent wages in the global south (simple, Apex problem).
Someone will ask me, how have you categorized the two problems? Well AI identity is a future issue…it’s not yet ubiquitous. Illegal migration from the global south to the west due to seeking perceived “greener pastures” IS a real current issue for both the global south and the west.
Ironically, these tech industries multinationals utilize a lot of raw materials from the global south… which they exploit the labor markets to extract it at the cheapest possible price… to bring these materials over to the west for value addition to solve a future problem of their own creation.
And we wonder why we are projecting a dystopian future? It’s a self fulfilling scenario, we are actively pursuing at breakneck speeds.
Well. Don’t mind me. I’m just a Afrikan from (what did Trump call it?)…a feculence cavity country.
What could _possibly_ go wrong with giving your biometric data to a corporation? 🙄
Their entire business model is to sell biometric date to governments. So of course it's a German company.
List one single risk of giving your iris fingerprint to a company. People are so paranoid yet lack any critical thinking skills
you are already, every month, giving up thousands upon thousands of data points
Ask Google, Apple, Amazon, Discord, Meta, Samsung..
@@oznekenzo3494 well duh. It's called sarcasm Sheldon.
Having worked for a few of the big tech companies and starting and growing my own before selling it always intrigued me how some groups internally full of highly intellectual people formed cult like beliefs and sometimes actual fricken cults that think they know better than the rest of the world. These people remind me of this and it's giving me ptsd just watching this segment. Avoid these people, their false beliefs and empty words at all costs.
I feel as if there is one Cooperate guy who sits at his desk and is responsible for starting all these rumor's like Wally from Dilbert🤣🤣🤣🤣
If everyone has a different belief, one of them will be right. And it's better to have someone who made the idea properly, safely, transparently, and most importantly, well regulated.
This edibles kicking in
💯 💯 💯
Hello from Kenya 🇰🇪🇰🇪
Yes am from Kenya too
Anguka nayo
Umeskia tunaitwa poor country 😂
Hey i am indian @@ragdohl511
Gotha
if ai gets hand on this data why cant it replicate the same iris for humanoids? 😮😮😮
The problem is, once your iris is digitized it can be cloned.
Every time something new comes out someone will find a way around it to scam
How? It would need to be a physical iris to fool the scanner, with perfect detailing and depth, and probably a face mask as well
@@Pippinlakewood False, once something is digitized it can be read by a computer without needing an organic source.
I love this from kenya ❤❤❤❤❤
What about opening ur phone with face recognition and finger prints which came way before world coin 🤷
They create a solution from a problem that doesn't exist and they created themselves.
I mean, In 2 years ai images will be better than anything photography can make, in 5 years ai movies will make hollywood obsolete and in 10 years taxi drivers will become obsolete. Its not that far off...
It doesn't exist yet...
"The Entity" from Mission Impossible-Dead Reckoning is taking over.....Minority Report Dystopian Future
Once you have the iris scan of a person, wouldn't it be possible, eventually, to mimic that in a humanoid face? It's possible to engineer an eyeball screen device where you can show any image for the iris...
Same for face ID and other things
The image of the iris is deleted once verified.
From the whitepaper: ...inherent to biometric algorithms is the false acceptance of a user. The false acceptance rate is largely dependent upon the system's capacity to detect presentation attacks, which are attempts to deceive or spoof the verification process. While no biometric system is entirely impervious to such attacks, the important metric is the effort required for a successful attack. This consideration was fundamental to the conception of the Orb. Developing the Orb was a decision that did not come lightly. It represented a high-cost endeavor. However, from first principles, it was required to build the most inclusive yet secure verification of humanness and uniqueness. The Orb is designed to verify uniqueness with high accuracy, even in hostile contexts where the presence of malicious actors cannot be excluded. To accomplish this, the Orb is equipped with every viable camera sensor spanning the electromagnetic spectrum, complemented by suitable multispectral illumination. This enables the device to differentiate between fraudulent spoofing attempts and legitimate human interactions with a high degree of accuracy. The Orb is further equipped with a powerful computing unit to run several neural networks concurrently in real-time. These algorithms operate locally on the Orb to validate humaneness, while safeguarding user privacy. While no hardware system interacting with the physical world can achieve perfect security, the Orb is designed to set a high bar, particularly in defending against scalable attacks. The anti-fraud measures integrated into the Orb are refined constantly.
it's cat & mouse game.
He is back!!!!!
Brave New World
haters gon hate
we still getting cash😂😂
Super fascinating tech, Ashlee. Seems like the business model will evolve, but sometimes you have to take a leap forward and build the hardware to be ready to service the software shift that occurs in the blink of an eye.
The Voight-Kampff test has arrived.
The eye doc installed a tiny tube into the iris of one of my eyes to relive excess internal pressure. It goes around about one quarter of my iris. I'll bet this would tell the eye-scanner I am not who I say I am. "What d you mean, 'I can't have my Bitcoin?'"
wonderful reporting mr Ashley! always enjoy your deep dives.
Open the pod bay doors HAL. It's creepy slipper slope stuff.
The absurd $250M investment is the first red flag (Sam Altman is the 2nd). I have an infinitely more complex product and all I needed to start up was a $100k loan. Hardware and software is not difficult to manufacture. Servers and websites are dirt cheap to maintain even if you have millions of users.
the investment by a16z is very shady. they have sold themselves to the saudis and launders money now
I don't trust any company in which Sam Altman is involved. I don't understand why Bloomberg is always making the case for him.
Why is the last line saying "it's time to embrace the orb"
probably they have the same boss.
What about Sam Altman? Has he had cases of scam or fraud?!
@@bhreand Yes, he made a non-profit company a for profit one making a legal scheme. And he make a coup not to be fired from Open AI. He is a lier and a conman.
I'm just amazed at the growth of tech..
My math professor was working on a similar project for the UN and the Gates Foundation to track kids for healthcare in developing countries using footprints as unique identifiers. About a decade ago. It didn't work. The footprints changed too much as the kids grew.
that is why they use the irises.
the ultimate goal is full control, they are already doing it in China. digital money, blockchain, crypto and many other things have the same owner, and its not the blackrock but 1 family behind blackrock, the UN, Fed and other central banks, Musk, Gates, Rockefeller, I will not mention them here, let your googling skills do the rest.
I mean, sorry to say, but shouldn't they know it beforehand? I don't believe people don't realize that.
🤣🤣🤣
That's a joke, right?...
@@bagussriyono874
How would you know an outcome before testing the hypothesis?
Personal beliefs are not evidence and slow progress.
10:56 "At the CURRENT point in time, we actually dont take anything" Absolutely the last thing i wanted to head was a sales pitch about how a startup collecting genetic data isn't selling my genetic data while only not ruling out the inevitable future of selling it to the governments around the world. We all know where this is heading and we know the consequences, China showed the world years ago.
The innovative technology for a dynamic world. Thank you world coin.
Why is this any different from irisguard or any blockchain + iris identification system. What factor makes it unique-- is it the fear mongering ai apocalypse, the goofy coin name, the cumbersome ball or sam altman. Bloomberg why do you even platform these guys?
Why does the interviewer sound afraid of asking questions especially the one starting at 10:16 ?? Something is way off with this company and the host, give us some insight on how this company approached you?
Dont let Sam Altman scan your eyeballs!
why?
@@RickySupriyadi Really? Your asking why!
@@RickySupriyadihey have a blast...im not dumb though
someone should make anti scanner glasses - if technically possible - maybe will be the new norm (or contact lens).
@YSKWatch that doesn't make sense mate, just don't put your eye to the machine!
Just what Ive always wanted: The airport scanner connecting me to all of my financial transactions
That's actually happening on a centralized model... Like these days 😅
So they've pretty much just given up on explaining zk-proofs to people. Truly humanity worth saving.
Your take is so misunderstood and tabloid like. Bloomberg should be better.
The Movie Demolition Man Comes To Mind,
The Scary & Freaky Future Is Already Here.
It makes a lot of sense 👏... Worldcoin to the world ❤✊
Dystopian nightmare stuff.
This tech should be used by states to replace id cards but not by some dystopian corporation that does it to get a monopoly and to sell you crypto.
Just playing devils advocate here, you trust the government? I personally think the tech goes too far, irrespective of which centralised entity holds your data. Respectfully, I think the USA should start with simply showing your drivers licence and some sort of registry before going all dystopian for something like voting. Peace
@@l3358no I dont trust them but they already have photos fingerprints and all my medical and legal records. This is a matter of convenience I would feel a lot better not having to remember to take my plastic id cards with me all the time and I would not need to worry about loosing them.
If you do or say something they dislike? Access denied. No thanks..
I understand what you mean, these should be taken on by the government, but the type of governance a country has adopted makes this significantly more complex. Of the ~200 countries, there is a full spectrum of desire for monitoring from a advanced technology state such as China to a country with no infrastructure (thus no desire assumed) such as some of the oceanic countries.
The last comment in the video was the most enlightening. Trading privacy for security is in our future and is likely inevitable. As a people, we will need to take multiple stabs at this problem and this shiny orb might indeed be a likely future.
@@somerandomfella They can already do that with my id card bank account and driving licence and they can put me in jail.
rather than protecting us from AI, this hand over our identity to the AI. this is the dumbest thing ever.
Its amazing how people today are clueless to the threat of new technologies. We now create technologies that don't solve the problems of humanity.
They would argue that ai generated bots are becoming an identity issue…sounds more like an unpopular solution. Bible predicted this.
Even "orb design is open source", wait till you have business model and than Sam closes it day 1. Also "At current point of time you don't give up anything" I guess this guy does not hear him self...
it's literally on github you pawn...
I just love world coin
Am just amazed at the growth of tech
They should add a red color to look like HAL 9000
remember people, youtube video's are just stories that's why they are so dramatic.
That's... a palantir. Sam Altman has made the Eye of Sauron.
Sam Bankman Fried was a few months ago, we are ready for a new viral cryptocurrency
When are the members of Worldcoin coming again to India to verify their IDs who are unverified 😢😅
I don't really follow this. Are they expecting people to buy an orb to verify their identity from home?
Hey! you should read the whitepaper 😊
Is this made to protect us more?
Show your Love for Worldcoin by Putting alike. Much Love From Kenya❤
When kyc starts in India
The hardware is cool, but the only chance this doesn't move us towards dystopian society is if its open source down to the silicon so it can be vetted.
Am surprised because of this technology
Worldcoin to the moon 🌙
The human iris is changing constantly. This will last 3 years max.
Ashlee got another level of presentation skill... Love the way He started the video... Also editing & camera guy did their best... So much to learn not only about world but also about presentation & story telling 🫡
i thought your eyeball scanner was normally called your wife. why do we need a scanner for Sam Altman's eyes? keep check if he's a droid yet or not?
We are one of the member Thank u world coin 😊🤝
Whoever worked on this video should be proud, its great work
Gracias Halman..mucha gente a recibido dinero gratis ,es hora de echarle más ganas y ayudar a impulsar este proyecto
Precisamos da obs aqui em São Paulo Brasil
Wow the antichrist is really around...."and all men were forced to take the mark of the beast..."
Hi when does it return to Kenya 😢
funny when a lot of people share the same concerns. makes me quite optimistic that we'll generate a plethora of solutions. imagine having a concern thst no one else shared lol crazy
There are many people in India who do not have their KYC done. World Coin requests you to please come to India and get all of us to do our KYC by order
❤❤❤what a wonderful innovation
Since no actual data is being retained and storage is chunked distributed the intent of technology design is clear. It can go two ways:
1. AI stagnates or never gets to AGI or humanoids and the eye becomes redundant.
2. AI Humanoids happen within the century, and we are glad the eye exists to recognise the difference, globally.
Problem is ...if the law dont allow compannys to scan iris why not make them scan on cell phone them selfs?
Am just amazed at the growth of technology
This video is great.
Great one
Que bien que la hicieron los dueños de Worlcoin tienen razón es un proyecto muy importante que no quedará en la nada como otros. y se merecen todo el éxito por haber ayudado a tanta gente en el mundo. GRACIAS!
Thank you world coin
Nice. Pleasure being an iris keeper..
Naivety of genius.
Am glad i became a nember b4 it was banned🇰🇪🇰🇪
Should a private organization be allowed to have that level of data. Most forms of biometrics currently are on device and only governments collect and store your biometrics for longer term. This is a major deviation from that model. We don't know the security implications of this and could prove fatal.
I think the point they are trying to make here is that the company doesn't have that data. I don't fully understand it yet but it is akin to bitcoin etc, decentralised in some way.
They just told you that they will not keep the data of your irises. In fact, it never really gets stored, it only goes through the Ethereum decentralized chain (that is being held up by a few different computer devices across the globe by the PEOPLE) to verify that you're a human. Ethereum doesn't have an owner. It's a chain being held up by the people. Hope it makes sense.
I dont even use it on my phone
zk-proofs
Hello from Kenya
"biometrics are key to proving personhood" yikes, I think we can foresee where all this may be heading. And we have to gall to criticize China for its state surveillance apparatus.
I love worldcoin
Oh My Data...
Porque no lo colocan en español 😮
great team helping alot out here.
Well I just hope the value goes up soon
World coin the real deal 💪💪
Am always hoping there are no bad consequences in future on this cause we really enjoying the cash
Possibly one of the greatest investment on earth 🌎
Hii kitu inalipa, I like you guys keep it up, zakayo afungue hii kitu kenye we need to register again
In Vienna, Austria I saw a pop up store of Worldcoin in Donauzentrum in front of Interspar on August 3rd 9am.
I very quickly read this as Donerzentrum
Kenya banning it is real and uncalled of
Why not available in India i used many months ago but every time not available in India .. so what about i used this it gone world coin lost and reduse ...do something for available in India 🇮🇳
This is a brilliant idea.... I love it so much
People are calling this ‘dystopian’ not realising it’s going to be the saviour of AI generated impersonation
This thing has changed my life into another level 😂😂😂😂😂
From India ❤❤❤😊
SOBRE QUE SE TRATARA Y AQUE FUTURO DARA
Why cant you guys allow phones to be used as orb?
Informative video
When Can I Expect Orb In India (Bangalore)
Now i have gained trust ❤️
Probably the most important mission in the world to ever get fumbled by the worst corporate PR humanity has ever seen.