Just a quick update - they recently pushed down a new firmware update that will allow for multi-file bin/cue CD images. I'll try to do a followup soon to show how that works.
Just from my personal experience, the Everdrive is a good choice. I have the X7 and I looked for the first time in a year or 2 at the Krikzz download page and there were some updates. One of which was getting Virtua Racing working, which is pretty cool at least he cares about updates. I think that update kinda went unnoticed by the retro tech sites.
Oh yeah, also in case you're into playing ROM hacks, Sonic Delta 40mb is playable on any family of the Mega Everdrive (X3 to X7 and Pro), however with the X3, X5 and X7 you either need to use a modded firmware from the Sonic Delta 40mb page or hex edit the ROM to make it pass like if the game is Super Street Fighter 2 (the game can be saved by the way regardless of the method you use to play the hack) and you cannot have the 32X connected to your console, nor the Sega/Mega CD (at least with the ROM hex edit method as far as I know).
Congratulations! Nice video, I have a Mega SD and the Everdrive x7 but I'm really want to buy the Everdrive pro and try out those new features. Thanks for your video.
Thank you so much for this excellent and thorough breakdown. Answered all of my questions in one go. Can't wait to finally play all the Sega CD stuff I missed out on as a kid!
The next big upgrade on these flash cats will be who can make 32x work without the hardware it would be great to play genesis/cd/and 32x with only the genesis console and flash cart
If that ends up happening, in the future I'll upgrade from the X7 (I'm currently waiting for my cart at the time of this comment) to that revision, but since I don't have a Sega CD, nor the 32X (and I'm hardly interested in their games aside from 2 or 3 of each add-on... like Knuckles Chaotix and Shining Force CD), the X7 is a perfect upgrade for me (I currently have the Everdrive MD V2 chinesse knock-off... that I don't use it too much for security reasons)
There’s a program you can find on google called redump to PSIO that I use for the PSIO flash cart that converts redump a to a single bin and cue. I would think it’d work for this too.
There's also Binmerge, a Python script that will merge multi-bin images to single-bin. It will also stay Redump-compatible, as in the CRC-32 will match the total CRC-32 listed on Redump. Versus burning and re-ripping to a physical disc might not, depending on the software used.
You could save another step and use CDmage. This program let's you load the mult-track bin/cue files and save to a single bin/cue. It works with nearly all source formats too (DiscJuggler, CloneCD, Nero, CDRWIN, etc). archive.org/details/CDmage.v1.02.1.B6 (make sure you get the B6B version)
Great video, I'm definitely buying this during the Black Friday sale. One thing I don't think you mentioned is if you can use save states for 32X games.
I would also love to know this! Actually, I do have a real Model 2 Genesis (my original Model 1 needs fixed 😔), and an SNES (with the easiest "mod" ever, so it plays US and Japanese carts). I need to know if the NES Everdrive works with the Retro-Bit Super Retro Trio/Trio+... my original NES is M.I.A.
Sorry if I missed your coverage on the video already, but how does either device handle FM sound emulation for Master System games? Big ones to test being Ys 1 and Phantasy Star 1. In 2019 MegaSD's FM sound emu was shown to be crap, but maybe it was fixed in 2020. Or maybe it wasn't, and maybe Mega Everdrive beats it.
You forgot to mention that the NES CORE is FPGA RECREATION. Not software emulation, and not every NES game will work from my understanding (as of now). Saying "EMULATION" will only confuse people. Some prefer FPGA over software emulation for native play which is not considered to be emulation, but FPGA RECREATION.
Game Gear produces more colors than the Genesis can produce. So there is an issue with that. However a lot of GG games are on SMS so you could get them there for playing, or use the patcher to convert GG games to SMS in order to play them on the Genesis. No core really needed. www.retrorgb.com/gamegearongenesis.html
That would actually be much more of a challenge, mostly thanks to a bit of missing hardware buses combined with the Mega Drive having a smaller color palette (surprisingly).
I understood that this everdrive (Mega EverDrive Pro) did not support more than 32 GB so I bought a 16Gb but when I Finally downloaded the SEGA CD games I was very short in my storage, after watch your video I want to buy a 64GB sd card or maybe128Gb Do yo recommend this ?¿ Thanks again.
I would like your help, I get this error when trying to load a sega cd game in my mega everdrive pro, I know it is something in the bios, does anyone know how to solve it?👀 Thanks in advance ✌🏻 ¨CD-Bios not found¨
Really cool info for you today. I got my MD ED Pro today and it works on my Retroad S Plus HD 7" Handheld SNES with the MD adapter. I am not getting all of the movie audio but the game looks stunning. Maybe I can use notepad++ to change some files and see if I can get that audio to work. Ali-Express has that Retroad S Plus but I would use like a green dot card or something and not a major credit card. Now I just need to get a hori fighting commander controller for the SNES and I can get my Popful Mail on anywhere.
Can't remember what program I use but... yeah, I recently used it for Eternal Champions Challenge From the Dark Side (I think is CDimage but I can be wrong, I'll check it out later and I update this comment if I'm wrong about the program) and the PS1 version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy.
How large of a micro sd card would you recommend for a full US/Jpn rom set with translations, home brew, rom hacks. If I remember correctly Sega CD games are quite larger in size.
You can use a program called "CDMage" to convert a .cue and a bunch of .bin tracks into one .cue and one .bin. Way easier than trying to re-rip all your games.
Lon you forgot to mention the border taxes you get when you buy from terraonion. this + the 50 dollars price gap we already have = almost 100$. it's a no brainer. go mega everdrive pro!
Does the "In-Game-Menu" allow you to get back to the rom list? I assume that's what that is. Pretty important feature for those who like to jump through games, and have their Genesis system across the room. I do sort of wish this had a more modern GUI. Having a small corner display, showing screen shots as you scroll, can look great, and also be useful for some roms that you don't instantly recognize while scrolling. It's also useful for Save States. I used this a lot on emulators, to create my own makeshift level select, often right as it showed the stage # or name in the screen shot. That, combined with the ability to play either an mp3, or Genesis chiptune, can really make it a neat experience. Even my old SNES copier from 1994 had a nice looking graphical menu w/ background music.
I have the Mega Everdrive x7 and yes, the in-game menu does let you drop back into the file selector. The UI is barebones but at least it's very responsive which I personally prefer over audiovisuals you might not be able to turn off. The Mega SD has a flashier UI which is still nice but the MED Pro has by far the sexier cart.
If only I had enough money I would have nabbed this one instead of the X7 last May (I'm currently waiting for my X7 to arrive), but... since I pretty much I'm only interested in 2 or 3 Sega CD games (one of them is Shining Force CD) I don't think it's worth the extra money for the Sega CD and NES support, but one thing for sure is that the X7 is going to replace my stupid Everdrive MD V2 (chinese knock-off) as I think I nearly "killed" the cart by loading over and over multiple ROM hacks I tried, and in any case I'm not interested in Sega 32X (despite having the support already on the cart... but I don't have the add-on and I don't think is worth if I'm interested in about 2 or 3 games just like the Sega CD... one of them being Knuckles Chaotix).
@@kingd8210 the Mega SD wouldn't be able to support 32x games on its own either, even with a firmware update. Neither flashcart is powerful enough to support it, nor do they have the ports to make it possible
14:10 you should say complete with the original soundtrack not the separate Japanese soundtrack as the American slapped their terrible soundtrack on top....
*$200 for the Mega Ever Drive Pro. If Sega CD's matter to you, and you don't already own a working Sega CD unit then it would likely be worth that. You could spend $500 for a Sega CD, only to have it break down, or require major work.
No "reset to menu" on a Mega SD is really a bummer. Their devs are too arrogant to implement it, all they do is downplay the feature and damage control. Ill never buy a TerraOnion product again.
It has an in game menu where you can reset or go back to main menu. It can be enabled or disabled in the settings downloads.terraonion.com/public/MegaSD_user_manual.pdf
Those who like to game on original hardware comes to mind. Not everyone cares about it. Some of us crazy people even like to play using original game carts and CD's.
@@CementRoots Wait till you hear about the nutjobs who buy flash carts AND the original carts, dump the ROMs themselves and enjoy the convenience of legit backups while the originals are neatly stored away instead of crowding the gaming area. Ahem... Or you can just buy the ROMs of new indie titles or rip some from collections on Steam and GOG.com or the Sega MD/Genesis Mini. Sega is very good for this sort of thing and if you consider for example, that the Sega collection on Steam has nearly 60 games (some of which are a bit pricy as original carts) and which goes on sale frequently, the economics start to make sense. Or that's what I keep telling myself at least.
Congratulations! Nice video, I have a Mega SD and the Everdrive x7 but I'm really want to buy the Everdrive pro and try out those new features. Thanks for your video.
Just a quick update - they recently pushed down a new firmware update that will allow for multi-file bin/cue CD images. I'll try to do a followup soon to show how that works.
Great to hear. Just ordered mine the other day directly from Krikzz so it'll be a while getting here.
100 save states is fantastic.
Smaller cart than Mega SD.
And $50 cheaper than Mega SD too.
Can't wait for it to go on sale.
Its on sale. Already ordered one
is ridiculous for me. Im willing to pay the $200, $250 maximum but Im in central america and the ebay price is $290 plus the $100 shipping lol
@@Jucelegario Order off the everdrive site. 199
Exactly nes emu too
Is it as good, is it as stable as the mega sd?
this is the most magnificently organized overview of the MEDPro I've seen. everybody should have chapter headings this tidy.
Just from my personal experience, the Everdrive is a good choice. I have the X7 and I looked for the first time in a year or 2 at the Krikzz download page and there were some updates. One of which was getting Virtua Racing working, which is pretty cool at least he cares about updates. I think that update kinda went unnoticed by the retro tech sites.
Oh yeah, also in case you're into playing ROM hacks, Sonic Delta 40mb is playable on any family of the Mega Everdrive (X3 to X7 and Pro), however with the X3, X5 and X7 you either need to use a modded firmware from the Sonic Delta 40mb page or hex edit the ROM to make it pass like if the game is Super Street Fighter 2 (the game can be saved by the way regardless of the method you use to play the hack) and you cannot have the 32X connected to your console, nor the Sega/Mega CD (at least with the ROM hex edit method as far as I know).
The X7 is sufficient for me. I just can't stomach the Pro's price tag
This brings back memories!! I loved having a Sega Genesis! That was the last game console I owned
This guy is always super thorough. 👍👍
Congratulations! Nice video, I have a Mega SD and the Everdrive x7 but I'm really want to buy the Everdrive pro and try out those new features. Thanks for your video.
NES?! I guess Genesis does... what Nintendoes! 🤣
Thank you so much for this excellent and thorough breakdown. Answered all of my questions in one go. Can't wait to finally play all the Sega CD stuff I missed out on as a kid!
The next big upgrade on these flash cats will be who can make 32x work without the hardware it would be great to play genesis/cd/and 32x with only the genesis console and flash cart
If that ends up happening, in the future I'll upgrade from the X7 (I'm currently waiting for my cart at the time of this comment) to that revision, but since I don't have a Sega CD, nor the 32X (and I'm hardly interested in their games aside from 2 or 3 of each add-on... like Knuckles Chaotix and Shining Force CD), the X7 is a perfect upgrade for me (I currently have the Everdrive MD V2 chinesse knock-off... that I don't use it too much for security reasons)
Thank you so much for covering the cheat function! I ordered Mega Everdrive Pro because unlike my original Mega Everdrive V1 it remembers the cheats!
Or u could get a program called ggGuy and import cheats into roms so u dont need to put codes in
There’s a program you can find on google called redump to PSIO that I use for the PSIO flash cart that converts redump a to a single bin and cue. I would think it’d work for this too.
There's also Binmerge, a Python script that will merge multi-bin images to single-bin. It will also stay Redump-compatible, as in the CRC-32 will match the total CRC-32 listed on Redump. Versus burning and re-ripping to a physical disc might not, depending on the software used.
That's really dope. I found my dads old Genesis that we used to play years ago. Just need to get it cleaned up, get me one of these and go for it.
Its really cool that he pulled this off
Imagine a 32X/CD flash cart that supported HDMI.
That would be amazing.
Edit:
The CD port and game cart slot use the same bus.
Fantastic review. Not so much waffle as other reviews, and you keep the important stuff first, and the added technical towards the end. More please!!
My Sonic CD is not working on the Mega EverDrive PRO. What game files did you put in the folder?
You could save a step and mount the multi file bin/cue, then use another program to re-rip it to a single bin/cue.
You could save another step and use CDmage. This program let's you load the mult-track bin/cue files and save to a single bin/cue. It works with nearly all source formats too (DiscJuggler, CloneCD, Nero, CDRWIN, etc).
archive.org/details/CDmage.v1.02.1.B6 (make sure you get the B6B version)
Nice review mate I picked one up and the new firmware add a lot of nice features
Great video, I'm definitely buying this during the Black Friday sale. One thing I don't think you mentioned is if you can use save states for 32X games.
No save states on 32x
@@LonSeidman Thanks for the response, that's too bad, but I can accept it. Still going to buy it.
Is there an option to play your ROM Hacks like for example; Sonic?
Is the Mega everdrive pro compatible with Retro Bit Trio clone console?
I would also love to know this!
Actually, I do have a real Model 2 Genesis (my original Model 1 needs fixed 😔), and an SNES (with the easiest "mod" ever, so it plays US and Japanese carts).
I need to know if the NES Everdrive works with the Retro-Bit Super Retro Trio/Trio+... my original NES is M.I.A.
Sorry if I missed your coverage on the video already, but how does either device handle FM sound emulation for Master System games?
Big ones to test being Ys 1 and Phantasy Star 1.
In 2019 MegaSD's FM sound emu was shown to be crap, but maybe it was fixed in 2020. Or maybe it wasn't, and maybe Mega Everdrive beats it.
Good luck getting any updates for that Mega SD lol
You forgot to mention that the NES CORE is FPGA RECREATION. Not software emulation, and not every NES game will work from my understanding (as of now). Saying "EMULATION" will only confuse people. Some prefer FPGA over software emulation for native play which is not considered to be emulation, but FPGA RECREATION.
5:40 Before I started shooting, I loaded up some games here.
And they said video games causes violence.
It seems like it would have made more sense to have a Game Gear core added, instead of a NES core (with very limited mapper accessibility).
Game Gear produces more colors than the Genesis can produce. So there is an issue with that.
However a lot of GG games are on SMS so you could get them there for playing, or use the patcher to convert GG games to SMS in order to play them on the Genesis. No core really needed.
www.retrorgb.com/gamegearongenesis.html
That would actually be much more of a challenge, mostly thanks to a bit of missing hardware buses combined with the Mega Drive having a smaller color palette (surprisingly).
Ha i can do it on my mega sg as it has a game gear core so bo issues witg using the cart in that
I understood that this everdrive (Mega EverDrive Pro) did not support more than 32 GB so I bought a 16Gb but when I Finally downloaded the SEGA CD games I was very short in my storage, after watch your video I want to buy a 64GB sd card or maybe128Gb Do yo recommend this ?¿ Thanks again.
I would like your help, I get this error when trying to load a sega cd game in my mega everdrive pro, I know it is something in the bios, does anyone know how to solve it?👀
Thanks in advance ✌🏻 ¨CD-Bios not found¨
You need to find a compatible mega cd / sega cd bios
Really cool info for you today. I got my MD ED Pro today and it works on my Retroad S Plus HD 7" Handheld SNES with the MD adapter. I am not getting all of the movie audio but the game looks stunning. Maybe I can use notepad++ to change some files and see if I can get that audio to work. Ali-Express has that Retroad S Plus but I would use like a green dot card or something and not a major credit card. Now I just need to get a hori fighting commander controller for the SNES and I can get my Popful Mail on anywhere.
Is there a program to make multi file cd games into a single bin/que file?
Can't remember what program I use but... yeah, I recently used it for Eternal Champions Challenge From the Dark Side (I think is CDimage but I can be wrong, I'll check it out later and I update this comment if I'm wrong about the program) and the PS1 version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy.
Great review as always.
Now let's see how long it will take Krikkz to update it to support Paprium.
How large of a micro sd card would you recommend for a full US/Jpn rom set with translations, home brew, rom hacks.
If I remember correctly Sega CD games are quite larger in size.
I use a 128gb
The only thing i didn't get is what it any cables of the 32x have to be connected in order for it to work with the everdrive
Why burn cds to get a bin/cue file?You can use Daemon Tools and then IMGBurn to create a single bin and cue...
One feature missing from the Mega Everdrive Pro is MD+ support. If you are looking for that, the Mega SD will be the one to get.
That's one item I failed to cover in the review - the Everdrive Pro does support MD+ per the instruction manual.
Nice!!!! Krikzz finally created an Everdrive that plays Sega CD games 😊
You can use a program called "CDMage" to convert a .cue and a bunch of .bin tracks into one .cue and one .bin. Way easier than trying to re-rip all your games.
I’m having trouble setting up the files on my computer to play sega cd roms can anyone give me walkthrough?
Teraonion never released the adapter allowing 32x CD games to work. That product is only vaporware.
Lon you forgot to mention the border taxes you get when you buy from terraonion. this + the 50 dollars price gap we already have = almost 100$. it's a no brainer. go mega everdrive pro!
Music on 10:49? It is real sonic cd track?
Does Mega EverDrive Pro plays Sega CD Games with Sega CD Add-on attached to the system?
No it needs to be detached for cd games
@@LonSeidman Slight correction: it's possible to play games with the add-on via a menu override, but it'll usually be extremely unstable.
wait. so I can play Snatcher on a Nomad!?!?
Does the "In-Game-Menu" allow you to get back to the rom list? I assume that's what that is. Pretty important feature for those who like to jump through games, and have their Genesis system across the room.
I do sort of wish this had a more modern GUI. Having a small corner display, showing screen shots as you scroll, can look great, and also be useful for some roms that you don't instantly recognize while scrolling. It's also useful for Save States. I used this a lot on emulators, to create my own makeshift level select, often right as it showed the stage # or name in the screen shot. That, combined with the ability to play either an mp3, or Genesis chiptune, can really make it a neat experience. Even my old SNES copier from 1994 had a nice looking graphical menu w/ background music.
You can exit the game through the menu and jump back to the games list.
I have the Mega Everdrive x7 and yes, the in-game menu does let you drop back into the file selector. The UI is barebones but at least it's very responsive which I personally prefer over audiovisuals you might not be able to turn off. The Mega SD has a flashier UI which is still nice but the MED Pro has by far the sexier cart.
Had to cancel order. Master system savesates wont work on analogue mega sg
Yeah that sucks, still seems great tho
@@timusforlife works now on latrst official FW
Cool video very informative
If only I had enough money I would have nabbed this one instead of the X7 last May (I'm currently waiting for my X7 to arrive), but... since I pretty much I'm only interested in 2 or 3 Sega CD games (one of them is Shining Force CD) I don't think it's worth the extra money for the Sega CD and NES support, but one thing for sure is that the X7 is going to replace my stupid Everdrive MD V2 (chinese knock-off) as I think I nearly "killed" the cart by loading over and over multiple ROM hacks I tried, and in any case I'm not interested in Sega 32X (despite having the support already on the cart... but I don't have the add-on and I don't think is worth if I'm interested in about 2 or 3 games just like the Sega CD... one of them being Knuckles Chaotix).
Does it let you play 32x games without a 32 x attached to the genesis
Negative on that.. Unfortunately given the complexity of the 32x and how it interfaces with the Genesis I don't think we'll see that on a flash cart.
@@LonSeidman that figures I'm just going to stick with my mega sd and wait for firmware update
@@kingd8210 the Mega SD wouldn't be able to support 32x games on its own either, even with a firmware update. Neither flashcart is powerful enough to support it, nor do they have the ports to make it possible
How much sega genesis games has this cartridge???
None you need to find them yourself
Lon.TV I thought all sega genesis games in this cartridge
Has anyone ever got a wav song to play off everdrive as claimed ?
Ah, ok. At these kinds of prices I think I'll just stick with my hacked SNES Classic Edition and the roughly 180 games I've added on there.
Currently unavailable and actual prices are insane!!!
Whats a good website to download Genesis, Mega Drive and CD roms?
Nice haircut. I must have missed the Flowbee demo.
just m,ake a .cue file pointing to the files, will work fine, talking about not knowing how to work with pirate images
A firmware update was made after the video was recorded that addressed this issue
Krikzz for Neo Geo multicard.
for the mega drive
Keep up the great work
I got a mega sd not long ago should I be worried haha
This is actually closer to 100 dollars cheaper!
14:10 you should say complete with the original soundtrack not the separate Japanese soundtrack as the American slapped their terrible soundtrack on top....
Yeah, the US version is the only one to have a different soundtrack. Everywhere else used the original JP one.
Definitely a cool product, but such a bummer the interface is horrible.
The interface is perfect! The displays draws no unneeded junk to confuse the user.
When is lenovo legion 5 review coming out...
can you boot up the bios with no game in it to watch the bios screens ? czcams.com/video/D-6lcUGgVn0/video.html
czcams.com/video/uzi7VJfhtEA/video.html
Faltou mostrar o Chip da parte da frente e a de traz.
Anyone want to buy a cheap Mega SD? :D
250-250 for a cartridge? No way
*$200 for the Mega Ever Drive Pro.
If Sega CD's matter to you, and you don't already own a working Sega CD unit then it would likely be worth that. You could spend $500 for a Sega CD, only to have it break down, or require major work.
Its worth it for the complete experience
No "reset to menu" on a Mega SD is really a bummer. Their devs are too arrogant to implement it, all they do is downplay the feature and damage control. Ill never buy a TerraOnion product again.
It has an in game menu where you can reset or go back to main menu. It can be enabled or disabled in the settings downloads.terraonion.com/public/MegaSD_user_manual.pdf
who in their right mind would buy something you can get for free, plus 1000's more??..... wackos
Those who like to game on original hardware comes to mind. Not everyone cares about it. Some of us crazy people even like to play using original game carts and CD's.
@@videogameobsession oh I get the original hardware thing, (i'm old as f**k) but no way at $200...
and at the end of the day its just emulation
CementRoots No it’s not
@@CementRoots Wait till you hear about the nutjobs who buy flash carts AND the original carts, dump the ROMs themselves and enjoy the convenience of legit backups while the originals are neatly stored away instead of crowding the gaming area. Ahem...
Or you can just buy the ROMs of new indie titles or rip some from collections on Steam and GOG.com or the Sega MD/Genesis Mini. Sega is very good for this sort of thing and if you consider for example, that the Sega collection on Steam has nearly 60 games (some of which are a bit pricy as original carts) and which goes on sale frequently, the economics start to make sense. Or that's what I keep telling myself at least.
Congratulations! Nice video, I have a Mega SD and the Everdrive x7 but I'm really want to buy the Everdrive pro and try out those new features. Thanks for your video.