Enoch Burke's High Court application fails-an "abuse of process", says Judge
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What amazes me is how quick and how often the Burkes can get to the high court…..some people wait years to get a case heard there and at huge expense.
I'd say there is a lot that amazes you,,my friend.
Mr. Burke is a pain in the Arse. Mr Pick & Mix.
Hey. Its your opinion,,,I,ll give you that!!
Your most probably a clown🤡,,
A dedicated 🤡, no doubt, but a clown all the same.
Disgusting absolutely DISGUSTING the way Enoch Burke is being & has been treated wake up people get behind ENOCH & HIS BEAUTIFUL FAMILY.. watching from ARMAGH
Very interesting and descriptive account of current situation. Sadly most, if not all, of Mr Burke's troubles were avoidable. He will learn that you must play by the rules, he will never beat the system.
Yeah maybe we all should just do what we're told even if it's unmoral and against our religious beliefs. He should take a discrimination case next, as his religious beliefs are not being respected, but those of other religions are being respected.
@@martymartin2894 You can't take a discrimination case for defying a court order. If he tried all that would do is add to his debt mountain. You do know with all the legal fees and fines he has, he won't get a mortgage, car loan, landlord wont rent to him either as credit bureau report will come back showing he is up to this neck in debts he can never pay.
Even if he were to spend the rest of his life in prison, he will be vindicated when the Lord returns as judge of all.
@@stephengurney1311 if that is the case I hope I get God brownie points for my taxes funding his decision to stay in prison
Having said that, I'm not so sure I'd get on well in heaven what with all the Jihadis fornicating with all the virgins and the Christian fundamentalists looking for their piece of the action. Without any gay people up there I'd say the decor will be completely unfabulous too.
When will the family follow the law of the land?! Their obsession with taking up all this Court time is horrendous and is just blocking justice from those who deserve it.
And I note that often enough, those who come on supporting them are equally damning towards those of other citizens of Ireland who they dislike especially in the recent video on the wee lads being refused the opportunity to play soccer. Strange isn't it - how two lads can't play soccer but adults can be abusive towards their employers - and the "court of idiotic social media" deem the ones who are "right" 🙄
Those who deserve justice don't have it served upon them.
The problem for Christians is that when human law is against God's law, the Christian is bound to obey God. In this case, the law dictates he must lie to a pupil by using incorrect pronouns.
@@stephengurney1311 Burke must be the only Christian in the school so? And him with a lifetime ban from the Christian Union.
I try to see his point and I can't. Did he go to jail to use it as leverage, and it didn't work? He used the courts, but made a mockery of the system. He was held in contempt of court for defying the judges ruling and his family are lawyers
There always seemed to be, for want of a better word, a smugness of always believing he is unquestionably right and yet a disconnected view of reality. The childish chanting, demanding the presence of someone at some meeting. I can't remember which one. None of his behavior makes sense.
If you want to fight for something choose a strategy that would get you to your goal. His got himself sent to jail and he was there longer than he had to be. He has made one error after another.
Essentially you're right. Enoch (and his family) have been looking for a cause for years, picking fights with every church, organisation, institution they've come up against. They seem to just love a fight. He kinda got lucky with this 'cause' in so far as the roots of it are in a bonkers ideology & he stands against it. Sadly, through pride, the Burkes don't seem to understand, or rather accept, the point of of law upon which he landed in jail.
Here to fore, the family have gotten away with long vigil type protests for years so they're sticking to that method... So he's kind of happy to be a Martyr, but they'd rather be 'winners'. The family seem to live life like an 'All Ireland public speaking contest'. They're competitions they always won, & it involves beating & humiliation others. That's how they measure success
@@mairedaly4926 Maire we have had the Gender Recognition Act on the Irish Statute Book since 2015.
Is it your opinion that the Act is there to support people who are living with a bonkers ideology?
You could find a party that promises to have it repealed and vote for them. We could then perhaps tell transgender people to " cop on to themselves" or "put up with it" or get conversion therapy?
I would not myself vote to repeal the GRA. I believe it is there for a positive for society. Life for trans people seems to be a constant battle for acceptance (often just to be allowed exist) .
It is not a simple issue. Sports participation is proving very challenging. But I am optimistic we can work stuff out without rejecting people for what they are.
@irishmusico you've summed it perfectly, from the beginning Mr Burke was his own biggest problem.
The Burke circus behaviour resembles the Soverign Citizen movement in the USA.
Common thread of anti authority,anti whatever you are having yourself and answering only to God.
Examples are NUIG, Arthur Cox LLP,Gardai ,Judges , numerous named politicians,Bishops etc etc😢😢
Smugness ha that would be the judge who said in court "it is a shame you have not changed your opinions on this matter" when talking about the reason he was fired for not going along with someones illness in their head. He got jailed for "breaking court orders" yet court orders are broken everyday with the vast majority of them not being enforced even in the case of people with history of violence. Meanwhile he has done more time in jail than many abusers of women and children funny that.
Great explanation as always👏🏻
The old maxim stating that the wheels of justice grind slowly but produce exceedingly fine flour in the end is playing out before our eyes .
The Burke circus is loosing on too many fronts so they are going to run out of road sooner or later.😢😢
Big question remains as to who or what is financing this circus??
USA evangelist money!
Conservative right wing fundamentalist donations !!
Please God help Enoch Burke
Very interesting indeed and no distractions by moving from room to room.👍
thanks so much for all your videos. so interesting, especially as someone who’s h hugely interested in irish employment law. this case has just struck me as so weird. i can’t understand why this man would sabotage himself like this. is he trying to martyr himself by never attending his case at court, or by getting himself sent to prison? it’s not going to work. i doubt many parents will have sympathy for a man who is repeatedly breaking a perfectly reasonable injunction to stay away from a children’s school. in plain words, it just looks creepy. as a sibling of a child in secondary school i would be extremely troubled if a dismissed teacher were acting as enoch burke does.
@mike_mcgb very sad to see these people ignore the facts of the matter. whatever their opinions are on transgender children, they should at least have the sense to acknowledge that repeatedly breaking an injunction to stay away from a *school* is completely unacceptable behaviour.
What did you think about the boxer with male chromosomes taking part in the women's competition - because some would see it as unfair (as a woman in a male competition would also be)?
@@azrielscath7282 No, granting the injunction was completely unacceptable.
Serious question has Enoch Burke made himself unemployable in Irish schools. I can't see any other school hiring him and I can't see him winning his appeal. Does he spend the rest of his life trying to get into a school that's dismissed him then brought before a judge and off to prison for a few months. Then Judge releases him for the School summer holidays and we start all over again every September.
If you were a Principal would you employ him? If you were on the Board of Managment of a school would you employ him?
He had questionable form prior to his employment at WHS. I'm surprised he made it through their background check. Funds misappropriation nuig. Lifetime ban from the Christian Union. Fake websites attacking politicians. Incest and abomination placards.
@@pedropadel141 A practising Christian 😱
Hello there I have a question for you about kyial hays and arrested for speeding will he do time now giving his suspended sentence? Curious listener
Firstly, he has only been charged with an offence. He is innocent until proven guilty.
Secondly, he will plead guilty to the lesser offence of careless driving, if the Judge allows him.
Thirdly, I don’t see him doing time because road traffic offences are treated slightly different to ordinary criminal convictions.
Fourthly, I could be wrong 😑
@@terrygorry thanks very much for your reply 😀 👍
Brilliant again and very clear and understandable. Mr bourke appears to not understand how his own actions are affecting his direction.
I think he does understand. He chooses to follow Christ rather than the passing ideologies of this world.
@@stephengurney1311 how come he has a lifetime ban from the Christian Union if he's following Christ?
Terry, my understanding is that there still is an unfair dismissal case being brought and hasn't commenced yet? Other than the failed defamation case, all of the Court appearances so far were dealing with his suspension and the HC Court order/contempt?
Are we to see more court room dramas for that case or is Burke in Isaac Wunder order territory now given his behaviour and litigiousness to date?
The unfair dismissal appeal must be dealt with first in accordance with the disciplinary procedure set down by the Dept. of Education. This could not happen when he was in Mountjoy. As long as the appeal was not finalised he was getting paid his salary from the taxpayer.
I presume this appeal can go ahead now.
If he is not happy with the outcome he can submit a claim for unfair dimissal to the WRC. Just like everyone else..
@@terrygorry If it goes to the WRC I see it going the same way his sisters case did with Arthur Cox the family keep interrupting, the WRC lose patience and say to the School you win.
On the substantive issue, involving the Burkes, underlying most of these debates online, High Court judgments can be appealed in the Supreme Court and European courts repeatedly. I draw your attention to the Guildford four, the Birmingham six and the “appaling vista” judgment of Denning in the High Court. And many successful appeals in the Irish Courts and European courts. Prejudice and politics and judicial membership of political parties has seeped into several judgments and orders in Irish courts and this will necessitate more extensive use of the Bangalore Principles, Judicial Council Act and Rules and Constitutional law, EU law and international human rights law and the laws and legal principles regarding the separation of powers.
As already stated here, defects in Irish law mean that the many transgenders are ill defined in law and inconsistent and mostly unknown as they keep increasing every few months. Indeed one can change their gender from day to day. Humans can invent any number of genders they want, i think its 72 genders at the last count, but there could be 80 or 90 by the end of 2024.
Mr Burke claims about his freedom of conscience and of religion, but doesn't care about the students similar rights and the fact that he cannot force his beliefs on another person (and I say this as a Christian).
The school should have been prepared to compromise. It was a big mistake to allow the school to lose a good teacher like that. The principal left too so maybe she didn't have full support of the other teachers, parents and students.
Hopefully he'll be back though, if that's what he wants..
@@HH-hd3gs Why should ever he want to return to a Church of Ireland school whose ethos is so different from his own? His dismissal from the school came from his behaviour in being unable to discuss the original matter in a civil manner and thus disturbing the school order and open insubordination. His further contempt of court comes from repeated violations of court orders. It is a basic principle of civil society that the orders of a court are followed. The subject of court orders, in this case Mr Burke, has the right to appeal such orders, and several levels of appeal, but not to disobey them as long as the order is still valid or until it is stayed. If every other member of society behaved like Mr Burke, the entire judicial system would be powerless and nullified. Do you really think a judicial anarchist like Mr Burke should really be teaching children?
@@HH-hd3gs
Breach of trust and confidence in the employer/ employee relationship invariably leads to termination of employment.
Copious WRC cases on this issue where the importance of following long established Industrial Relations procedures is paramount.
Mr Burke threw the head out of the collar in a sustained hissy fit.
It is a racing certainity that he will never teach in Wilsons again 😢😢😢
@@HH-hd3gsEnoch was not this student teacher. Enoch caused all this trouble because he didn't want others using the students chosen pronouns. The Burke's create a three ring circus around all these issues because they are being well funded by radical Christian groups.
Alex White, the SC who was acting for the school against Burke (White, a former Labour politician) "has not been politically active since 2019". "In Jan 2023 he was appointed DG of the Institute of International and European Affairs" (Wikipedia). He has gone for a much easier and more lucrative way to effect change than putting himself up for election don't you think?
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@@terrygorry Have a look at phalloplasty for "gender affirmation" for girls. My reply might be a bore for you, but what you are thoughtlessly promoting is sick. You are just going with the flow but you need to inform yourself.
@mike_mcgb I don't think Enoch Burke was trying to stop the child "transitioning". Was it not just that he objected to being forced to pretend (as he saw it)?
@mike_mcgb Yes, you're right - those politicians don't care about the poor. The similarity with the left is state control but now big business/finance etc is driving the politicians.
@@HH-hd3gs he was objecting for everyone else at the school too. He demanded that the instruction be withdrawn from everyone.
Enoch Burke is one of the few men of principle in this banana Republic.
Poor man is sad indoctrinated pompous parrot from mad mammy Martina Burke's cult circus school in Mayo😢😢😢
In reply to some comments here regarding the Bible which is important to Irish catholics, protestants and christians and the fact that most Irish judges, barristers and solicitors belong to these religions, I state the following below. By the way I personally have seen several Irish judges and solicitors opening their gobs on Sundays to receive communion at mass.
Genesis 2:4-3:24
7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
No mention of the 70 genders we have today and 80 or more by the end of the year which the Irish courts must abide by.
The Gender Recognition Act 2015 has serious legal defects and is vague and ambiguous and contradictory. How many genders are there ? the number keeps increasing, its 70 now and it could be 90 before the end of 2024 an dmore in 2025 and so on and on. No accurate definition and description of these genders. The genders are ill defined, ambiguous and vague and this has created bad law.
"By the way I personally have seen several Irish judges and solicitors opening their gobs on Sundays to receive communion at mass."
We have separation of Religion and State in Ireland.
You are free to enjoy your religion unhindered. However, neither you or any judge are free to demand others obey the rules of your religions under our current legislation.
The Gender Recognition Act 2015 provides that a person can apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate in order to have their preferred gender recognised by the State. These are the facts.
If you want to return to a Theocracy, find a party that is seeking a mandate for that and vote for them. Maybe they will aim to repeal the 9 year old GR Act for you.
@@pedropadel141 The Gender Recognition Act 2015 has serious legal defects and is vague and ambiguous and contradictory. How many genders are there ? the number keeps increasing, its 70 now and it could be 90 before the end of 2024 an dmore in 2025 and so on and on. No accurate definition and description of these genders. The genders are ill defined, ambiguous and vague and this has created bad law.
@@yeah7598 Well find a party that shares your OPINION of the Act to vote for.
For now, it is a law enacted in Ireland and it provides for a citizen to have their preferred gender recognised. If you want that legal right removed from a person you can vote for a party of like mind.
Your original point appeals that judges and solicitors who deliver the law are not fit to "open their gobs" for communion.
Are you saying their chosen profession is incompatible with their participation in a sacrament? Or should they refuse to carry out the law because the law doesn't obey their religion? Maybe you'd like Sharia in Ireland?
@@pedropadel141 no i leave sharia law to people like you who supports mass migration and open borders which is leading to sharia law. Your class bowing and crawling to muslim migrants and giving them handouts will do the trick.
Laws can be struck down in courts or repealed in the Dail and the defects in that particular law make the job fairly easy for an intelligent solicitor and barrister. Though they are very rare nowadays.
@@yeah7598 Let me disabuse you of your notion that I would support Sharia. I believe Sharia is every bit as dangerous as those proselyting for fundamentalist Christianity.
I believe we as a nation have a commitment and responsibility to accommodate legal refugees.
I want our Government to be efficient in carrying out deportations of proven illegal economic migrants.
I don't care what religion you are as long as you don't expect me to tow your line. Then we would have a big problem.
For the moment, you are Constitutionally entitled to free profession of your religion - no matter which religion that is, (subject to public order) Art 44. Constitution of Ireland.
I am happy to live with that, but I personally would like to remove the recognition "that homage of public worship is due to Almighty God."
Because, even though Christians and Muslims worship the same Abrahamic Almighty God, I fear open public worship of their "version" of Almighty God will lead to trouble - especially if the rise in islamohobia and racism isn't addressed.
But sectarianism and bigotry isn't new to us. We have fought over our ownership of Almighty God for years on this island.
I don't like Croke Park being used for Eid or any papal visit etc.
"That's my class bowing and crawling to muslim migrants - in your OPINION.
The "disorderly conduct" you refer to was Mr. Burke politely drawing the court's attention to a discrepancy in the books of pleadings before the court. Under normal circumstances the lay litigant, you would hope, would be congratulated for his attention to detail and thanked for his assistance to the court. Alas, not so in this case. The two large senior counsels bore down on the young teacher in a shocking display of aggression which was really demented. The two lady solicitors from MHC may have been terrified into silence. Judge Owens also stayed quiet about the error in the MHC booklets.
You a lay litigant?
@@Kitiwake No. Are you?
Ah no,that was sister Ammi Burke recently dismissed from Arthur Cox LLP.!!!!
Politely spraying spittle on the principal's face. Why did Burke subpoena Niamh McShane and others to court and then not cross examine their account of events?
@@pedropadel141 He didn't get a chance-he was put out of the courtroom. See earlier comment.
BRANDON JOE WILLIAMS HAS EXCELLENT INFORMATION - HE WON´T CHARGE YOU FOR IT EITHER.
😂😂😂
All because he wouldn't address a little boy as a girl.
All because he was abusive towards his employers and screamed like a banshee in the face of his manager!
@@rsh793 WOKE comes to mind
@@rsh793 that in itself is not enough to merit dismissal
Not even a girl, but in the plural.
@user-yw6tm6cw1s having a massive hissy fit aimed at your boss in a public forum usually gets you fired, no matter who is woke!
Salad Dressing!!
Skating around the actual issue,,,,He would've call a little boy , a little girl,,,or visa versa!!
He defied a court order. If I was the Judge he would still be in his cell and he wouldn't be coming back to court every few weeks or months. He would be told you will stay in jail till you purge your contempt and if that's the rest of your life so be it. My work colleagues are saying being back hard labour make him do that and we'll see then.
@@ed7002
Ah,,Yes,,,Now the mask drops and reveals the hidden face of full society control for all to see(marxism).! You would be a perfect recruit for the current Irish regime.!!
Our courts/judges are infested with woke government appointees.
Justice Sir, left the irish Judiciary some years ago.
You need to ask yourself,"How many genders are there?",, and if your answer is a twisted one,, then your part of the problem.!
If you read the court report (link under video) you'll see he demanded that the instruction be withdrawn from everyone else as well. That's the actual issue. He wanted the school and everyone in it to obey his beliefs.
@@pedropadel141
"His Beliefs",, !!!
That a child , most probably exhibiting early mental issues, wants to be addressed as its opposite gender!!
You say, " His Beliefs" as if its a debate over communism and capitalism.
@@erichicky8931 Just correcting your first comment about the "actual issue". You're welcome.
"Be not deceived, God is not mocked. For what things a man shall sow, those also shall he reap. For he that soweth in his flesh, of the flesh also shall reap corruption. But he that soweth in the spirit, of the spirit shall reap life everlasting.”
What a wonderful bird the pelican, his beak can hold more than his belly can. He can keep in his beak what'd do for a week,
And I don't know how the Hell he can
@pedropadel141 In the end everyone gets what they deserve
@@bluskyes524 I wonder can Burke look forward to the pleasures promised by the hadith of imam al-Tirmidhi for male martyrs. Fair play he'll be kept busy covering them.
@@pedropadel141 Islam is from Hell
@@bluskyes524 same Abrahamic God being worshipped by Muslims and Christians.
1000s of confident religions.
All saying we are the one true faith.
The chances of a person being a Christian or a Muslim looks to be down to geography of their birth and their parents religion.
Its amazing how many years this is going on an still no answers to any of the questions people have in relation to this. What people really want to know:
1) Was the act of removing a teacher from his post for failing to comply with a demand for forced speech lawful?
2) Was the state backing in relation to this request for forced speech lawful with respect to the Irish constitution?
3) Is the act of Enoch voicing his concerns regarding his Christian beliefs to the principal being construed by the school / state as gross misconduct? Making the position of a Christian with regards to WOKEisim in effect illegal in the eyes of the state.
This is the first fully fledged attack on free speech in Ireland and we need proper answers. Its absolutely incredible the amount of money that gets poured into this legal bullshit and still no concrete answer all these years later.
1) He was not 'removed' (suspended) for failing to comply with the request to use the students pronouns, it was for getting into a bit of a barney with the principal at a public school event (and earlier at a staff meeting)
2) This is a civil matter until the school applied for, essentially, a barring order, and Burke refused to abide by the order
3) This is not essentially a freedom of speech or faith case, but a case where a school felt harassed by one of their teachers
There's a reason other churches have not come out to support Burke. He & his family, have notoriously harassed & defamed Christians and members of other Evangelical Churches in the west of Ireland, for a number of years now.
It doesn't matter how much Burke & his family try to reframe the issue as a constitutional one, that has not been presented before the court technically, but shouted from a bull horn outside of it. So far, as presented in court properly, it's a disciplinary issue of staff within a school regarding behaviour (harassing the Head teacher on x2 occasions, shouting & roaring in public to humiliate them.
The answers are all out in the open as they have been from the start.
You just haven't been listening
@@mairedaly4926What was he suspended for Was it for raising his voice? I find it hilarious that you say this case is nothing to do with free speech and then go on to say the reason he was rightfully suspended by the school was for precisely that - for speaking. Give me strength 😅😂
Also I very much doubt raising your voice could be construed as gross misconduct (if he even did that). Are the school saying he got suspended for shouting or was it the context of what he was saying. This has never been made clear.
To be fair I've never heard him swear or be abusive once. All he has ever asked is his beliefs be respected. He should not have to comply with an order from the school that forces him to speak a certain way in a free country. The fact it's taking so long makes me think either the courts or the school have done something very wrong. If Enoch was actually wrong he'd have been dealt with a lot quicker. I'll be watching with an eager eye!
Chasing your boss (Principle) around your workplace (the school), in front of clients (Students & Parents) is certainly grounds for disciplinary action.
When the Burkes do it, it can look something like this czcams.com/video/CFTT-HRPRak/video.html
@@mairedaly4926 School principals can't be that timid and would need to be capable of defending their position. She moved very quickly to dismissing him - was it planned or did it just get out of hand v quickly? Hard to know.