You CANNOT See Through Walls (or Windows) with a Thermal Camera.

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  • @ScienceAsylum
    @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +456

    I apologize for the terrible parallax offset in many of the thermal images. I didn't realize it was a problem until it was too late to fix.

    • @wombatrepellant9809
      @wombatrepellant9809 Před rokem +25

      Thanks for the clarification on what I was seeing

    • @kadourimdou43
      @kadourimdou43 Před rokem +10

      If Ultra Violet Photons have higher energy, why do lower energy Photons transfer heat. It seems a bit counter intuitive. Or why don’t Ultra Violet Photons carry heat as well?

    • @gildedbear5355
      @gildedbear5355 Před rokem +37

      ​@@kadourimdou43 I believe it comes down to the fact that photons have to deliver ALL of their energy rather than just a portion. Thermal infrared photons have energy levels close to what's required to makes the bonds of molecules, or the molecules themselves, vibrate and so "carry" heat.
      Ultraviolet photons, on the other hand, have enough energy to actually break bonds so smash through rather than produce vibrations.

    • @kevinbissinger
      @kevinbissinger Před rokem +6

      Appreciate you acknowledging it

    • @clavnico
      @clavnico Před rokem +28

      @@kadourimdou43 All photon radiate heat. The stuff around us is "cold" so it only radiate low energy photon (infrared) hotter stuff radiate visible photon (red hot steel rod, hot charcoal, the sun) and even hotter stuff radiate ultra violet. Look up black body radiation if you want to know more, it explain the relation between the type of photons radiated and the temperature.

  • @86hillerd
    @86hillerd Před rokem +130

    Thermal engineer here:)
    2 fixes to help.
    One paint the rods and or plate. The emissivity of the metal is too low so the thermal camera can't accurately calculate the temperature. Paint emissivity is around 95% so it's a trick we use to get an accurate reading. At infrared wavelengths aluminum is basically a mirror.
    Two is put a thermal compound between the rods. You are probably having a huge contact resistance between them that is preventing the heat from flowing.
    Awesome videos!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +24

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @anonymous.youtuber
      @anonymous.youtuber Před rokem +22

      @@ScienceAsylum I’m pretty sure perfection clone will coerce you into making a follow-up video explaining the phenomena that didn’t work out the way experiment clone would’ve liked. 😉

    • @KatyaAbc575
      @KatyaAbc575 Před rokem +5

      THermal copound is really important. Its why CPUs need thermal paste, because 2 metals "touching" still have a giant airgap between them.

    • @redactedbananas
      @redactedbananas Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum you could just use water as a thermal compound, in this case.

    • @genelomas332
      @genelomas332 Před rokem +2

      @@redactedbananas peanut butter would actually be better.
      The heat capacity of water would act like a heat sink - drawing heat from the hot rod, while simultaneously not passing it on to the cold rod..
      Peanut butter better! 😉

  • @jimk8520
    @jimk8520 Před rokem +260

    Just know that “infrared” is still a spectrum of wavelengths. The camera you were using “views” a very narrow wavelength of infrared which reduces it’s capabilities. This greatly reduces the cost and complexity of the design. The ones I worked on in the military could “see” things in a way that you simply wouldn’t believe. The list of materials that are permissive to some part of the spectrum is rather impressive.

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske Před rokem +16

      i do not believe

    • @drpicmeup
      @drpicmeup Před rokem

      Whoa!!

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před rokem +6

      you talking about millimeter wave technology? we've been hearing about that shit for about 20 years so I assume they're at least three generations ahead of it by now

    • @theethicsofliberty4642
      @theethicsofliberty4642 Před rokem +11

      To have a more accurate representation of the temperature of a metal through an infra-red camera it is necessary to paint the metal or to cover it with tape ... !!!

    • @jimk8520
      @jimk8520 Před rokem +26

      @@kingmasterlord I would assume the level of definition has changed drastically since I was in. I remember two pictures I kept on the wall in my workshop. One was an empty chip bag floating in the ocean taken from 20 miles out at night. The label could be read, too - Doritos! The other picture was of a “grain” hauler taken in the middle of the day. The silhouettes of the illegal military choppers it was carrying in the cargo hold were clearly visible through the side of the hull. This was in the 80’s!

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron Před rokem +143

    So the thing about metals is that their emissivity is low and reflectivity is high. That jacks up their blackbody spectrum, which probably confuses the camera. I learned this by putting a hot silver (real silver) dollar in a thermal image and it looked ice cold.

    • @Basement-Science
      @Basement-Science Před rokem +10

      You can even use any flat piece of metal as a mirror for infrared light. By the way a copper sheet works very well for this and is not as expensive.

    • @TiananmenSquareMassacre1989
      @TiananmenSquareMassacre1989 Před rokem +9

      It also depends on the specific metal you use. Iron has emissivity reasonably close to 1, which is what most thermal imaging assumes in calculating the temperature from Stefan-Boltzmann law. The value is also close to most materials such as plastics and organic matter. Aluminium - depending on the finish - can go as low as 0.2. I first encountered this issue when locating aluminium heaters with cheap thermal cameras.

    • @Basement-Science
      @Basement-Science Před rokem +6

      @@TiananmenSquareMassacre1989 Well in general with metals, it heavily depends on the surface, its roughness, corrosion layers, etc, much more than what metal it even is.
      Practically, the only 'quick' solution is to discard ALL readings of direct metal surfaces, and paint/otherwise cover all metal surfaces you want to measure. Everything else requires you to painstakingly measure points with a regular thermometer, correct for the discrepancy, and then avoid any movement relative to the camera, which obviously limits what you can do massively.

    • @DANGJOS
      @DANGJOS Před rokem

      @@TiananmenSquareMassacre1989 Iron has a high emissivity? Are you sure that's not anodized or something?

    • @doogeh8502
      @doogeh8502 Před rokem +3

      Pretty trivial to correct by applying a Matt black surface finish. Paint and even some tapes work pretty well.

  • @localverse
    @localverse Před rokem +39

    Use the camera on:
    • the sun on a clear day
    • the bottom of clouds that are blocking the sun
    • the exhaust of car (if gas powered)
    • rubbing together stuff to test friction
    • a sideways view of heat when you breath out with mouth pursed to cool down stuff vs mouth more open to warm up stuff

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske Před rokem +4

      the sun just looks like a point of heat in the sky but looks cool through trees,
      you can see clouds that are different temps and lower, because they are cooler,
      the exhaust move really fast from engines and you cant really see it unless it has particles like smoke or flame to see but the pipe and anything getting hit by the ehaust can be seen(thin fiberglass airfilter mesh from a house ac in front of the pipe lets you see the air better),
      as soon as yoyu start rubbing and the heat is obvious and grows in brightness on most things,
      the vapor from your mouth when compressd can bee seen a tyny bit since you are seeing the particles and they are usually 98f ish vs the air, the air you breath out is pretty warm, the pursing makes a slimmer stream that is a little cooler but mostly still warm
      :)

    • @localverse
      @localverse Před rokem +2

      @@MrPruske Nice thanks! Am wondering if you meant the sun looks cool through trees as in 'a cool thing to behold' or as in 'a cooler temperature'? 😄

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před rokem +1

      @@localverse That is, both.

  • @75IFFY
    @75IFFY Před rokem +18

    5:30 You’re definitely making us engineers feel better about ourselves. We may not be the best mathematicians or physicists but we know how to do buildy stuff.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +9

      Problems are better solved with a diverse group of people. Engineers are necessary just as much as physicists and mathematicians 👍

    • @palleppalsson
      @palleppalsson Před rokem

      as a failed combination of both groups atleast I saw this one coming a mile away.

  • @OrdenJust
    @OrdenJust Před rokem +16

    Great video! I have one comment and one question.
    (1) you mention our eyes see only a narrow band of EM wavelengths. That narrow band is also those wavelengths that transmit through water. A professor I had (Arthur Swift) once observed that this is not a coincidence, since the human eye is mostly made up of water, and an eye that cannot see is useless.
    (2) Now for the question. I was told that there are three partial differential equations of classical theoretical physics: the wave equation, the Laplace equation and the heat equation. Furthermore, these equations are distinguished by what partial derivatives appear, and what order these are. The properties of the heat equation arise from that equation having a first-order partial derivative with respect to time. Now I seem to recall that the Schrödinger equation also has a first-order partial derivative with respect to time. Yet everyone calls the Schrödinger equation a WAVE equation. That makes me wonder. Is the Shrödinger wave equation really a heat equation? Or does the appearance of complex numbers in the S.E. mean all bets are off?

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +4

      It's true the Schrödinger equation isn't _really_ a "wave equation" in the strictest sense. I've never thought about it being a heat equation though. that's an interesting thought.

    • @MegaFonebone
      @MegaFonebone Před rokem +1

      Great point about the human eye

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      I decided to turn this into a video: czcams.com/video/LFC2HsT6Bh4/video.html

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox7358 Před rokem +50

    "I'm pretty sure that's Homer Simpson in the oven, rotating slowly. His body temperature has risen to over 400 degrees, he's literally stewing in his own juices"

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ Před rokem +42

    Nick, I love the way you explained the heat equation! The growing and shrinking variables was very intuitive! 💜

  • @karatydolphi
    @karatydolphi Před rokem +13

    My favorite "Stud" in your studio is YOU! Thanks for always WARMING up my day and RAIDIATING knowledge in an hilarious way!

  • @KekusMagnus
    @KekusMagnus Před rokem +36

    One thing you missed is that metals typically have a low emissivity, so they tend to look "colder" on thermal cameras than other materials

    • @frantisekvrana3902
      @frantisekvrana3902 Před rokem +1

      Unless they are reflecting heat coming in from something hot. Metals also have huge reflectivity and even a remotely smooth piece of metal will act as a mirror to IR.

  • @burakanilince
    @burakanilince Před rokem +18

    The fact that windows are sort of opaque in ir, is a kind of thing that everyone should know for better comprehension about universe

    • @pedroff_1
      @pedroff_1 Před rokem +10

      Explains a lot why the inside of a car gets so hot: the IR radiation can't escape as well as the llight can enter! Well, of course, that's the greenhouse effect, but it's still cool to see it from other points of view

    • @jpt3640
      @jpt3640 Před rokem +1

      So is it opaque because we make it that way for energy conservation of our rooms? Or is this a normal property of glass?

    • @claude_in_Cincinnati
      @claude_in_Cincinnati Před rokem

      @@jpt3640 That's an interesting question!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +4

      @@jpt3640 I'm pretty sure it's just a normal property of glass.

    • @burakanilince
      @burakanilince Před rokem

      @@pedroff_1 yeah!
      Haha and it is like the principle behind the columbia’s omni heat coats 😅 sort of…

  • @elizabethleach6346
    @elizabethleach6346 Před rokem +9

    I really appreciate that you gave us the low quality experiment, and explained why it was unsuccessful. It helps me persevere in face of failure

  • @BresciGaetano
    @BresciGaetano Před rokem +5

    When you was sawing that rod clamped on that wigly tablet i started laughting so hard.
    Is so funny to see how some people just forget all the theories they should know so well when they need to apply to real world.
    Sad fact reality Is not a controlled environment.
    That cheap clamp on that flimsy and wiggling table to "help" sawing an aluminum rod was the peak of this.

  • @AlecMuller
    @AlecMuller Před rokem +8

    To get good heat conduction from the hot rod to the cool rod, you need a good surface finish! A hacksaw finish will only put a tiny fraction of the surface area in contact, and the rest will be air. A good thermal interface material (such as silver-filled thermal paste commonly used inside computers) will make a big difference too.

  • @Markle2k
    @Markle2k Před rokem +4

    I put in a link to Engineering Toolbox and my last comment seems to have disappeared.
    The problem you have with the rod is thermal emissivity. This is the reason why the clamp _appeared_ to be warmer. Bare aluminum with a thermal emissivity coefficient of (0.03-0.07) is one of the worst materials you could have chosen. When measuring a metal surface with a infrared thermometer, they tell you to aim at a painted surface or apply some tape to use as a target.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for the feedback. That's helpful.
      (I have YT set up to block links. They usually go into my "held for review" list and I can approve the acceptable ones, but I can't find yours in there to approve it. Weird.)

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k Před rokem +3

      @@ScienceAsylum You get a new video out of this explaining emissivity vs. reflectivity. And you can explain it in terms of wavelength and choice of materials for the JWST mirror. Win-win.

  • @johandam4992
    @johandam4992 Před rokem +3

    Nice introduction to transport phenomena as it was taught to me ~20 years ago. Wish i had a professor who explanined the matter like you did.

  • @vontrances4667
    @vontrances4667 Před rokem +3

    I was just thinking like half an hour ago I felt like I hadn't seen anything from y'all for a while. Good timing!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +5

      I took a week off after the entanglement video. Got to take breaks sometimes so I don't get burnt out.

  • @victorribera5796
    @victorribera5796 Před rokem +13

    Probably the case of the rod to rod may be the imperfections due to the cuts, if you didn't polish them a bit, there are small air spaces that isolate the heat flow between them since the conductivity of air is very low and the space way not be big enough to have effective convection. That's basicaly what happens in isolating windows.

    • @EPaulIII
      @EPaulIII Před rokem +2

      Yes, the rough cuts made with a HAND HELD HACKSAW are probably the primary cause for the failure. The contact between the two rods was probably microscopic. Just the high points, and I use the word points advisably, are all that could possibly touch the other rod. When you consider that both rods have those high points, you get almost zero contact area.
      In electronics we use aluminum heat sinks to dissipate the heat generated in some components, like power, output transistors or FETs or computer processors. A heat sink compound is almost always used between the component and the aluminum heat sink. These compounds are like putty in their consistency, but are formulated to be good conductors of heat. And they conform to the surfaces of the component and the heat sink. So maximum heat can be transmitted.
      If you tried the aluminum rod experiment again but with some heat sink compound between the ends, you would probably get much better results.
      Of course, another way would be to mill the two ends flat and then polish them to remove the tool marks. But even then, you would need a lot of pressure between the two rods to actually achieve good contact. The heat sink compound is a much better way.

  • @andy_lamax
    @andy_lamax Před rokem +3

    Nick has found a way to put bloopers in the video, and I am loving it

  • @woowooNeedsFaith
    @woowooNeedsFaith Před rokem +33

    5:37 - The ends of your rods are so rough that you have only couple of point(like) contacts between them. You would need a lathe and probably even polish the two ends to have a good approximation of ideal connected rods. Or you could try using some heat conducting paste between them, but the heat conductivity of the paste should be better than the heat conductivity of your rods.

    • @claude_in_Cincinnati
      @claude_in_Cincinnati Před rokem

      Good point!

    • @danielzombori8640
      @danielzombori8640 Před rokem

      A drop of water would do the trick also.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +9

      I tried to file the ends down with my dremmel, but it didn't work as well as I had hoped. The job required better tools.

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum The two ends could be held together with a little tape without affecting the result of the experiment too much, because even if the ends are polished smooth, if you're holding it, they'll not connect well. Yes the tape would absorb some heat but not enough to invalidate the results.

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony Před rokem +4

      @@ScienceAsylum Or you could just not cut the rod, heat one end, and watch it spread. And also paint it black to get a truer black body spectrum.

  • @gusmoraless
    @gusmoraless Před rokem +3

    "Reality is complicated"... you are calling for an engineer 👏👏👏

  • @sciencenculture
    @sciencenculture Před rokem +1

    I love the family work that you do, you picked the right person my friend.
    cheers

  • @love__and__hope__
    @love__and__hope__ Před rokem +1

    Descriptions of equations Are so nice . Connecting maths with nature. Hope for similar videos in future

  • @l1nuxro07
    @l1nuxro07 Před rokem +4

    Another suggestion for using the thermal camera. It might be possible to manualy adjust what the range of the color grading is (sometimes even in post). Allowing you to make it wider, narrower, or specifically cut off at a certain temperature. Using these techniques you can make it easier to detect specific changes, or make a gradient easier to visualize. Say for example in your shot with the metal shelf, the ground showed at the cold end of the range. If you could had clamped the coldest point of the image to 1-2C below the temperature of the shelf, the ground (which was not part of the experiment and therefore less intersting) being colder than that would just be black, and the shelf would show the dark blue instead of the yellow or Hot. Then either lock the high end somewhere with enough headroom to see the change you are expecting, or it might allow that point to auto range with the rod. Although on the version of the device and software you have these features might not be supported. Not to take away from the additional information you tied in about diffusivity by changing the medium to wood. Another tech tip for imaging reflective objects, specifically aluminum, it is also quite good at reflecting IR light, and can sometimes be challenging to get a clear image of it. This is typically more of an issue when you are trying to image a piece that is not the hottest thing around. Like for example trying to look at the temperature of your computers CPU cooler, you have a non zero chance of simplying getting your reflection instead of the actual temperature of the metal.
    Great video I'm sure you will find some other interesting things to show off once you've had more time with it!

  • @Mysoi123
    @Mysoi123 Před rokem +5

    8:36 My mind completely blew up!
    after "air is a fluid".
    I learn that I have a lot of misconceptions throughout your videos, Thanks Nick!
    I have language issues when learning physics, for example, heat and temperature are both called the same word.

    • @generic_name4570
      @generic_name4570 Před rokem +4

      in my humble opinion, this is why the education system must be reformed.

    • @14jessek
      @14jessek Před rokem

      Heat and temperature are not called the same word, at least not in English.

    • @Mysoi123
      @Mysoi123 Před rokem

      @@14jessek yep, im from Vietnam.

  • @DFPercush
    @DFPercush Před rokem +1

    Ok, ideas for the thermal camera...
    1. Liquid nitrogen spill
    2. Pot of boiling water, preferably in a cold open environment
    3. The cabinets and walls around an oven when it's on.
    4. HVAC outlets, can you see where the air flow is going?
    5. Compost pile
    6. Different types of LED bulbs and fixtures
    7. A cooler full of ice on a hot day, are there cold spots where heat is getting in?
    8. Two metal balls impacting at moderate velocity, this can burn a small hole in a piece of paper, can you capture the moment?
    9. Triboluminescence, crush wintergreen life savers, does it produce heat as well as light?
    10. An electric vehicle at a supercharging station

  • @panoptiv
    @panoptiv Před rokem +9

    You need to align regular camera and IR camera in the settings to show outlines of heat source image for better viewing.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +7

      Yeah, didn't learn that until it was too late.

  • @cestemshow
    @cestemshow Před rokem +3

    Was just about to do a video on these basic concepts for my students. You have just saved me loads of time and done it better than me as usual 😊. If you need to borrow any cutting tools in future let me know 😂👍

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      I'm getting a hacksaw blade for my reciprocating saw. Shouldn't have to do this manually next time.

  • @netrandom
    @netrandom Před rokem +15

    I got the thermal camera for the usual job of checking for leaks and insulation. It turned out to be much more useful with puppy toilet training to find any accidents on dark carpet. Go outside at night time and you'll see just how much thermal energy all the roads and foot paths hold, they light up over everything else

    • @cjg8763
      @cjg8763 Před rokem +1

      Urban heat island effect

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV Před rokem +2

    Seeing heat output of everyday items could be neat. Such as showing the heat outputted from your refrigerator, or maybe comparing an old TV to a new one.

  • @chrispeoples4606
    @chrispeoples4606 Před rokem +1

    Nick, yet again Great work! Will definitely use it in my physics classes when I teach thermodynamics next year. Is the heat equation you show the same thing as Newton's law of cooling?

  • @benjaminkaufmann2482
    @benjaminkaufmann2482 Před rokem +13

    Nice video! But what you have completely ignored is the HEAT TRANSFER COEFFICIENT / thermal contact resistance - it is the beast in all heat calculations and indicates how well heat flows from one body (or fluid) to another. Another point: what you see brighter with a thermal imaging camera is not necessarily warmer, because EMISSIVITY.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +8

      Thermal effusivity did come up while I was researching this, but I decided that belonged in a different video. Could have been a bad choice though.

    • @benjaminkaufmann2482
      @benjaminkaufmann2482 Před rokem +2

      @@ScienceAsylum I see. Nevertheless, the video is great. Thank you. 🙃 Also, I have to ciorrect myself. The heat transfer coefficient is not the beast in heat calculations - it's just a number you can assume or guess - but it's beast in all experiments where heat flows from one body/fluid to another body. Like in your experiment.

  • @DeadCatX2
    @DeadCatX2 Před rokem +3

    4:55 heat transfer problems can actually be rewritten using the formulas for electricity and converting various parameters to resistors and capacitors. I bring this up because the graph you show looks a lot like the falling edge of a signal on an oscope

  • @gurumage9555
    @gurumage9555 Před rokem +1

    that temperature change vs heat capacity analogy around @ 9:05 was perfect. It makes me better understand the concept. thanks

  • @bumpty9830
    @bumpty9830 Před rokem

    My local city electric utility has (or used to have) an infrared camera for health-checking various electrical equipment. A lot of electrical faults slowly increase in resistance and start heating up before they actually fail, and a lot of money and downtime can be saved by identifying and replacing problem hardware before it hard-fails.
    Anyway, I suggested it because the visuals can be pretty cool. If you're still looking for targets for that infrared camera, you might point it at a few electric boxes around your area, the higher-power the better. Maybe stop by a substation. Needless to say, if you see something that looks unusually hot compared to similar items around it, it would be helpful to contact the utility and send them an image!

  • @GUCR44
    @GUCR44 Před rokem +6

    Thank you for all you do for me and everyone.. I love your videos and you crack me up with the hotrod jokes.. You're the best man peace

  • @averywellsand888
    @averywellsand888 Před rokem +5

    a thermal transfer medium might help also. ie thermal paste or since this is hot; liquid metal. you are getting air trapped between the rods and plate. air transfers heat poorly

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +2

      Yeah, the simulation was making a lot of subtle assumptions.

  • @boxbreaker4863
    @boxbreaker4863 Před rokem +1

    Drives me nuts as well, when I can't figure things out...So I watch you! 😊👍❤🇨🇦

  • @arpitpatel5814
    @arpitpatel5814 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate your hard work and educational video 🙏🏻

  • @schitlipz
    @schitlipz Před rokem +3

    Try thermal compound to couple the rods like how we attach heat sinks to discrete power devices. Maybe hold the rods in place with a wooden apparatus/clamp/cradle, whatever.

    • @odindimartino597
      @odindimartino597 Před rokem

      I think that file then polish the end of the rods will also help

  • @RavenLuni
    @RavenLuni Před rokem +3

    Best 80s music video ever!

  • @TechniSean1
    @TechniSean1 Před rokem +1

    Dude, you seriously need your own TV show. You need to educate the masses.

  • @mrman5517
    @mrman5517 Před rokem +1

    i still recall the school experiment we did to show conduction: a long steel rod held in a clamp, with soft wax blobs attached at regular intervals, and a bunsen burner applying heat to the far end. as time passed, and the heat conducted, each blob of wax would fall off in turn

  • @DrZedDrZedDrZed
    @DrZedDrZedDrZed Před rokem +3

    "There is no such thing as a truly adiabatic container" can also be read as "There is only the wave function of the entire universe". Thermodynamics is profound like that.

    • @mikefochtman7164
      @mikefochtman7164 Před rokem +1

      Or as Fourier was claimed to have said, "Any periodic function can be represented by a combination of sines and cosines. And with enough imagination, anything in the universe can be considered 'periodic'." :)

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 Před rokem +3

    Conduction duction, what's your function?
    Another issue that prevented the flow of heat from one aluminum rod to the other quickly was the poor mating surface between the two allowing for more air to act as an insulator between them thus further slowing the heat transfer.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      I tried to file the ends down with my dremmel, but it didn't work as well as I had hoped.

    • @smily5555
      @smily5555 Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum The ends should be totally flat and polished. Perhaps some heat conductive paste in between.
      Otherwise this experiment will not work.

    • @instantdominator2121
      @instantdominator2121 Před rokem

      Mating surface 😂

  • @sheepwshotguns42
    @sheepwshotguns42 Před rokem +2

    i got seeing the heat fixtures through the walls of your house, i even understood the thermal imprints footprints, but the idea that you couldn't see heat threw a window somehow still blew my mind :P in retrospect from watching your video, it makes total sense.

  • @carlborgen
    @carlborgen Před rokem +2

    Used a thermo camera on a parking lot once, it was cool that suddenly you could see which cars had recently arrived by the temperature of their wheels.

  • @nHans
    @nHans Před rokem +3

    Oh boy 🙄. As an engineer, I'm greatly tempted to ridicule theoretical physicists' inability to experimentally prove their own results. But don't worry, I'll control myself. In fact, I actually liked this video for many reasons. The biggest lesson is that practice is much more difficult than theory.

  • @Mavrik9000
    @Mavrik9000 Před rokem +3

    An new video idea: In this one, you touched on the 3 heat transfer methods used for macro scale calculations. I think it would be cool if you explained how heat is really transferred via photons. In other words, the particle physics version of heat transfer.

  • @mykleraymond3700
    @mykleraymond3700 Před rokem +2

    The lines that are shown in some of your thermal images have been added by an additional process that could use some explanation. For example, Teledyne has a system that combines some visual content with thermal images (edge detection): "FLIR MSX® (Multi-Spectral Dynamic Imaging) adds visible light details to thermal images in real time for greater clarity, embedding edge and outline detail onto thermal readings."

  • @johnbishop6045
    @johnbishop6045 Před rokem +2

    Even dull metal acts like a shiny mirror at IR wavelengths, and radiation is minimal. A thin stripe or small dots of paint or tape, along the length of the bars will show their temperature a lot better, plus join them with a thin layer of thermal paste, (or oil, water, jam... ) to conduct better. The heat the camera picks up from the bar itself is mostly the reflection from the environment unless it has high emissivity. Try looking at two teapots with hot water in them. One stainless, one ceramic. :-) Mmm. Tea.

  • @aqa5794
    @aqa5794 Před rokem +2

    Hope you are feeling fine.. God bless you.. welcome back..

  • @MrPinknumber
    @MrPinknumber Před rokem +2

    Very fun video !
    Also, you might wan to use thermal paste to make good contact beween your rods. That's what people do when they wan to put a heatsink (piece of metal) on a hot computer chip; so it's
    probably important.

  • @danielmadison4451
    @danielmadison4451 Před rokem +1

    Great video. Not sure what it was about because I couldn't stop laughing at your subtle humor. Been watching since you were a high school teacher. Keep up the good work.

  • @johngale7897
    @johngale7897 Před rokem +1

    I really do enjoy your programs.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem

      Thanks! This one didn't do as well as I would have liked, but oh well. It was fun to make regardless.

  • @awesomesam27yobrotha
    @awesomesam27yobrotha Před rokem

    Great video, however, I’d love to see a part two that goes into more detail and maybe addresses some of the problems you had pointed out by other commenters (thermal contact resistance, environment conditions, etc). Maybe you could do that classic demonstration of two separate volumes of hot and cold water mixing in a tub. That might look cool. (Btw im a huge fan and can’t wait to watch your videos when they come out. I’m an engineer and generally have somewhat of a good grasp on the topics in your videos, but you always give me valuable insights i never knew existed. )

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      I'm considering how to do a proper follow-up video for this.

  • @stevesutcliffe3490
    @stevesutcliffe3490 Před rokem +2

    Good to see you following Betteridges's Law of Headlines: If the headline ends in a question mark, you can usually just say "NO". You did.

  • @omnipoten8
    @omnipoten8 Před rokem +1

    The way you explain science concepts , I am sure that a video on "Schrodinger cat" will be a treat to watch . :)

  • @Astarath
    @Astarath Před rokem +1

    Getting into custom loops and water cooling has taught me that the surface contact between the two rods is going to matter a great deal with heat transfer as air is a great insulator even in extremely small pockets. You should consider sanding and polishing the ends of both rods, and using thermal paste between the two.

  • @laith8812
    @laith8812 Před rokem +1

    thanks for your efforts ☺️

  • @stephan4490
    @stephan4490 Před rokem +1

    I use a flir thermal camera to do fast diagnostic on older diesel engines with a misfire, cooling system issues and electrical issues like high resistance in wiring or control equipment issues that need a fast diagnostic with the right set of symptoms.

  • @jamesharmer9293
    @jamesharmer9293 Před rokem +2

    You should film your rods against a cold background, I suggest a large flat tray that you've put in the freezer for a while. Fill the tray with water and let it freeze. This will give you a large cold background. Stand the tray on polystyrene blocks to insulate it from the ground, so the ice will take longer to melt. Use a grinding wheel to polish the ends of the rods so that they make good thermal contact. Use a blob of thermal heatsink paste between the ends of the rods to improve the thermal contact. Film from above, in the shade.

  • @jimmurphy6095
    @jimmurphy6095 Před rokem +2

    Check your circuit breaker panel with the outer cover removed. They do this annually at shops to detect bad, overheating breakers before they melt down.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      I have to get in there soon for something else anyway. If I remember, I'll check then. I'd be surprised if the inspector didn't check it though. (He's my wife's dad, so he went the extra mile for us.)

  • @bhanuchhabra7634
    @bhanuchhabra7634 Před rokem +1

    Increase the contact surface area for quicker diffusion,
    Put the rods in contact length wise instead of radially.

  • @reachtrev69
    @reachtrev69 Před rokem +1

    As someone that plays oxygen not included, I approve this message. And recommend a follow-up about heat transfer systems they are really fun.

  • @odindimartino597
    @odindimartino597 Před rokem +1

    I think vacuum tubes (or valves for British people) in use could be great on thermal camera and to see the conversion cooling

  • @petemarsh30
    @petemarsh30 Před rokem

    "If I touch the wall for a bit, and remove my hand..." Wow! That's serious dedication to science. Nice to see the prosthetic replacement is indistinguishable from your original!

  • @fractalnomics
    @fractalnomics Před rokem +2

    7:43 you are not taking into account the emissivity of the rod, which (given it looks shiny) is very low, around 0.01. This means the detector in the camera will not pick up the temperature of the rod but will the clamp as the clamp has paint on it. Paint of any colour has an emissivity from 0.8 to near 1.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem

      Are you saying that I should have used wooden dowels instead? I was hoping to actually see the heat flowing between the rods, but that didn't happen.

    • @fractalnomics
      @fractalnomics Před rokem +1

      @@ScienceAsylum Hi, all you need to do, I think, is paint or put tape on the bars so the camera's detector (microbolometer) measures/detects the heat. Buy or borrow a silver bar or coin as it has the highest thermal conduction. Cool.

  • @agepbiz
    @agepbiz Před rokem +1

    Great video as always!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      Thanks! Your full-size LEGO 3D prints are total bangers 👍

    • @agepbiz
      @agepbiz Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum Thank you!

  • @RichardJohnson_dydx
    @RichardJohnson_dydx Před rokem +1

    Very cool. My math class spent about a month on the heat equation. Good times.

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 Před rokem +1

    Why water can freeze if it sees space.
    Everything is constantly radiating energy out in every direction. So why doesn’t everything constantly cool down.
    The objects around an object are radiating at the same rate (if they are all the same temperature)
    So set a book on a desk next to a wall. The book radiates energy toward the wall. At the same time the wall is radiating the same amount of energy back at the book. Same thing with the ceiling. The book is radiating energy toward the ceiling and the ceiling is radiating toward the book.
    Now put a pan of water in the middle of your yard at night with a perfectly clear sky. The water radiates energy toward the bottom of the pan and the bottom of the pan radiates energy toward the water. Same thing with the sides of the pan.
    Now the top surface of the water is radiating energy up but there is nothing above the pan of water radiating any energy back at the water.
    This is why I think a pan of water on a clear night with the temperature outside at 38 degrees Fahrenheit can freeze.
    Please correct anything I got wrong on this. I have seen it talked about but never seen anyone actually describe exactly why water can freeze like that.

  • @thenasadude6878
    @thenasadude6878 Před rokem +1

    Nice to see you're back to some physical experimentation

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      Yep! There should be more of that this year, now that I'm setting up a work space in my garage.

  • @stevekappes1698
    @stevekappes1698 Před rokem +2

    Consider.
    The emissivity of the surface of a material is its effectiveness in emitting energy as thermal radiation.
    Shiny objects like aluminum (low emissivity) while hot to the touch may not appear hot on an infrared camera.
    The opposite of a black body.
    This may explain some of the issues with your experiment.

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske Před rokem

      pure silver is the best at this, he could paint his subjects next time with some black 3.0 paint

    • @stevekappes1698
      @stevekappes1698 Před rokem

      @@MrPruske an excellent solution

  • @beriiO
    @beriiO Před rokem +1

    Love your videos and always awaiting the next upload 💓😍🤩

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ Před rokem +2

    I love the FLIR camera! I have observed the best results by filming in the dark. When filming in infrared One must consider setting up the environment to get the best contrast. Also consider reflective surfaces etc. Infrared is still light (obviously 😅) and not as intuitive to work with. Always love your videos!

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      Yeah. When I was filming the doorwall shot, I noticed I was seeing the infrared reflections off the glass rather than the glass itself.

    • @andrewschort724
      @andrewschort724 Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum have you ever touched your windows on a cold winter day? I'd like to see what infrared footage you can get when its cold outside.

  • @mrt5021
    @mrt5021 Před rokem +1

    Didn't expect the cold humour, burst into laught. Well played Nick , well played.

  • @baali9097
    @baali9097 Před rokem +2

    The end was great. As soon as I stated the video I said in my head. Smart man makes a video which makes money also gets a thermal camera which can then be used to conduct a thermal review of the house and its all a write off for business. 😅😀😀

  • @WilliamSmith-gj8wc
    @WilliamSmith-gj8wc Před rokem +2

    "I hate it when I don't understand something" I feel that, I feel that

  • @ristopaasivirta9770
    @ristopaasivirta9770 Před rokem +2

    That terrace door window demonstration reminded me of Ace Ventura, you definitely should have screamed AAAAAAAA when opening and closing the door :D

  • @jonascarrillo8699
    @jonascarrillo8699 Před rokem +1

    The músic at the infrared test on the Window is Amazing.

  • @michaelmcdoesntexist1459

    I've never thought that much about how infrared cameras and mirrors work, and is kinda mindblowing. But then this video reminds me about thermal equilibrium and Heat Death and now I'm sad again.

  • @TechnoW1zard
    @TechnoW1zard Před rokem +1

    That equation.... I think the main struggle people have with higher mathematics (the divergence symbol, partial differential symbol that looks like an upside down lower case "e") is that we expect people to not learn how to draw these symbols until college. All other symbols for math and language are taught way earlier in life, in grade school. To suddenly start inserting new symbols and expecting people to remember them and their meaning is, I think, a big reason why so many people do not go into science and engineering.

  • @mpelas00dse
    @mpelas00dse Před rokem +1

    You can see through objects that are opaque for wavelengths of visual light with IR cameras. Germanium and black barbage bags are two examples

  • @TedToal_TedToal
    @TedToal_TedToal Před rokem +1

    Would be nice to see a comparison of steel and copper re heat conduction.

  • @dtibor5903
    @dtibor5903 Před rokem +1

    I have a professional thermal camera at my job, it has pretty accurate temperature measurements.
    Just some facts about thermal cameras:
    - shiny metal surfaces do not radiate heat in the range of the thermal camera. They act like mirrors and often 100C degrees of difference shows up as 5-10C degree. You need to apply paint or electrical tape to metal surfaces to be able to measure it.
    - some opaque plastics are completely transparent in IR range
    - farts do not show up on thermal camera :))
    - surfaces of liquids are cooler than the liquid below, you can not trust the measurement

  • @ikesteele
    @ikesteele Před rokem +1

    Ideas for the thermal camera: points of impacts (such as a ball bouncing) and a material's stresses (bending/deforming a material).

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 Před rokem +1

    I liked the Ace Ventura-style sliding glass door stuff. Funny!

  • @shgysk8zer0
    @shgysk8zer0 Před rokem

    Something about the patterns of the ground were pretty fascinating to look at. Almost like abstract art or something.

  • @alexvilonyay8597
    @alexvilonyay8597 Před rokem +1

    Always love your videos! Crazy for life!

  • @redandblue1013
    @redandblue1013 Před rokem +2

    “… is governed by the heat equation”
    EXAM PTSD ENGAGED

  • @nothosaur
    @nothosaur Před rokem +1

    I think about this sort of thing when doing woodburning art. The shape and size of the tip affects speed of diffusion.

  • @SchwaAlien
    @SchwaAlien Před rokem

    I’ve been contemplating thermal conductivity and stuff like that because I needed a dehumidifier and there was an old abandoned water cooler at the house I moved into, so I decided to chop the top off the stainless tank inside the machine and blow air into it so that it condenses on the sides where the coils are... which works but because the coils only cover about 1/3 of the tank it doesn’t actually accumulate all that much moisture before it cycles off and defrosts into the drain at the bottom of the tank and goes into a bucket. What I need to do is fill the area outside the tank where the coils are with something thermally conductive so that more of the tank gets cold, and then of course surround that with a layer of insulation to keep condensation from building up outside the tank. I was looking into materials and it seems like mercury would be the ultimate substance to use but obviously will not be since it’s extremely unsafe, so something more inert and commonly available will have to do... I’m thinking sand, but for some reason gravel has better conduction which is a bit confusing since it wouldn’t make very good contact... also sand conducts better with moisture in it, I suppose it makes sense since more contact conduction can happen... gotta give it a try, not sure how it would handle the expansion if it froze, but I guess I’ll see if that happens.

  • @ganymedemlem6119
    @ganymedemlem6119 Před rokem +1

    I'd be really interested in looking at very far away objects to see how much our atmosphere interferes with radiative heat. Or, if even possible, seeing how different the moon looks in IR over the visible range.

  • @tokk3
    @tokk3 Před rokem +1

    As a certified FLIR thermography engineer, thank you for explaining this in a really simple way. There are a couple of cool experiments you can do.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem

      You're welcome 🤓. What kinds of experiments?

  • @joylove4968
    @joylove4968 Před rokem

    Just a heads up (and I could be wrong) just like visible light in the EM spectrum is emitted by electrons vibrating at a certain frequency w/ a certain wavelength, the EM waves emitted by objects along the infrared spectrum just so happens to correspond with the vibration/“frequency” of the atoms as a whole. Which is why it works to detect temperature

  • @Svenne23
    @Svenne23 Před rokem +1

    Dude I will always like and share you!
    After PBS, you are are the ONE channel for knowledge !!
    *kiss and *thanks

  • @MarkEichin
    @MarkEichin Před rokem

    Some glass *reflects* IR quite well, which I usually rediscover when trying to measure something through a window... electronics (computer circuit boards especially) are educational to look at, I've used an older phone-based thermal camera to diagnose failed chips and motors in industrial equipment.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, when I was setting up the doorwall shot, I could see my infrared reflection.

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 Před rokem +2

    Hi Nick, use the camera to demonstrate how heat pipes work. Regards to Emm.

  • @danaildoykov8384
    @danaildoykov8384 Před rokem +2

    You should explain emissivity and why gloss and matte surfaces matter. I have burned my skin with polished alluminum because thermal camera showed 60 degr. C but it was 130 deg. C. Solution was to tape piece of paper to the gloss material and measure that to with the camera.

    • @ScienceAsylum
      @ScienceAsylum  Před rokem +1

      Yikes! When I was filming the doorwall shot, I noticed I was seeing the infrared reflections off the glass rather than the glass itself.

    • @danaildoykov8384
      @danaildoykov8384 Před rokem

      @@ScienceAsylum The problem with glossy surfaces is that camera measures the reflected temperatures and the surface temperature at the time. You will measure the mix of the both, depending how much is reflected to the camera. EVERY camera and even laser-pointer thermometers have setting for surface emissivity. Every time you measure something, you must first check that setting and change it according to the surface you will measure. Even with that done properly i find it better to have a masking tape with me all the time. The tape is thin and matte and it will show almost perfect mesurements.