@MichaelMJD Hello Michael!!! Glad it made it to you in one piece!!! I still have the USB dongle that came with the unit, as I could not find the keyboard or mouse :( But I'm glad you redacted Miss G's info as I thought about it but figured that you would. I was wondering if any of the files I went through would show up as being edited, as I just looked at them here in 2024 when I snagged this unit! The original voice was the first female British voice when I got the unit. I changed it to the male voice to mess with my wife on the phone, and a keyboard to type the words... BUT the original voice was the female one. Glad you like Clippy as well!!! And I am glad he made it to you in one piece as, lol we were looking for stuff to stuff the box with a box in the box!
I remember using this when I was younger, it was silver. I just remember my speech therapist having it for me to talk to my family and nurses. Luckily, I am able to talk so I do not need this anymore but it was such a cool piece of technology to use when I wasn't able to talk!
I have interacted with tons of these during my internship at a dept of education! These have now been relegated to windows only assistive tech software or eyetracking systems, with most students getting iPads now with software license inventory control and are quite loud for their size for voice generation, unlike those giant "bespoke" machine.
For someone who used to donate computers to kids with autism for education and social/life skill prep the amount of times we wish we had a bunch of those donated to us would of helped a lot of people but the amount to get them fixed was way to much as to getting iPads repaired that were used for accessibilty just amazing how far we have gotten in the past 20 years or so with tech
Why is it that products that are made to help people (that are also often not as great as standard products) cost far FAR too much? - You see this with pretty much anything made to help people, nearly every single form of Computer I have seen that does something like this cost a fortune. It is disgusting that disabled people and people in need (you know, the people that struggle with daily tasks and such) are the ones that get forced to pay massive bills for things like this, the same goes for medication expenses where life saving medication often costs far too much and the person ends up passing away too early due to it. - I Understand to an extend why these small companies may charge a lot, simply because they do not have as much customers, but I still see it as a form of scam in a way. It is great that these things exist and so on, but with that cost, they may aswell not exist is what I am trying to say here.
Having worked at a university computer lab now makes me wonder how many old educational computer tools are laying around resold. My boss used education funds to buy LOADS of equipment, we had hundreds of Mimio boards, early 2000s tablets and licenses for Blackboard software, and it goes on and on. The education niche could be another thing to explore some old oddball tech.
MRI Computers from Siemens are just workstations from Fujitsu (pre-2010) and then HP Z400 workstation, yet the computer costs 2500€. The old ones run a custom windows xp and the new a custom win7. All standard parts with pretty low specs. The old ones had 512mb ram up to 2gb. They also used ddr memory with a carrier card with blank memory sticks. The blank carrier alone was 200€. Also the psu is a standard 400w with one extra cable found only on those workstations. And they charge 400 euro for the psu.........
These are made for "assisted" communication, which is pretty much a sham in the first place. That + the health insurance situation explains the price. This one at least is probably a lot more expensive than the Macbook one to produce, because it's custom hardware produced in presumably very low numbers.
This is 100% some insurance price gouging. WinXP tablets costed only 1000 bux at the time and TTS software for it wasn't over 200 either, this BS is because the medical industry will charge 20 dollars for single aspirin doses in hospitals because corporate insurance pays for it
>because the medical industry will charge 20 dollars for single aspirin doses Ha, that is a good joke. When I was in the hospital back in 2021, a single pill of Tylenol was $60 and a tetanus shot was $700.
@@GGigabiteM Ouch! Makes me glad to have the NHS. Yes it has *many* flaws and is a money pit, and if the junior doctors get the wage increase they are protesting about it will collapse entirely. But i appreciate my free healthcare and 80p for a box of 16x Aspirin... for the short life it has left. (5 years under a Labour dictatorship, i give it 2 years tops before the NHS collapses.)
And in turn, insurance costs a shitton down the line as well, both corporate and customer types. The money is sucked out of the state, the users and the corporations all for the sake of lining the wallet of some no-names' bank accounts in Switzerland and Bahamas.
Literally looks like the sort of iPad case provided for children of autism with speech apraxia, marvelous to see how integrated technology as a whole has become in the years since
@@kidwolf0015 No duh, just interesting how much they’ve evolved with the changing times. Didn’t know they existed for that long, considering my teachers during this time simply tried handing me postcards of commonly used words to refer back to.
In my old job, we had some of these but branded as Tobii Dynavox C-12 with a 12" screen (since they were acquired by Tobii AB and thus implemented eye tracking solutions on top of the speech generation) and they were MASSIVE, they spotted two big batteries on the side and had Windows Vista with both Dynavox software and Tobii solutions. Since they added new tech they costed even more and were ONLY made for people who could afford them or, on my country case, care centers who were interested in having these solutions since the cost was far too big for a regular person, because these things costed like €5000+
Thats exactly why they’re so expensive. They assume that people will be paying through insurance so they jack up the price. They absolutely not worth that much in materials, R&D, manufacturing, advertising etc.
What sucks is that a lot of disabled kids didn't have insurance that would cover anything like this, so the high price made accessible tech inaccessible. I have Autism. Back when I was a kid, the health insurance my family got through my dad's job refused to cover anything related to my Autism because it was a "pre-existing condition". I couldn't get anything, not even therapy. Now, at least insurance has to cover pre-existing conditions.
It's really sad that most people would be better off if health insurance just plain didn't exist at all. Because doctors and pharmas would only be able to charge what people can actually afford.
they jack up the price b/c insurance will only pay x% of the price. so if they need to get $1000, they say it's $8000 and the insurance company thinks they are getting a deal. That's why the cash price at the emergency room is 1/10th the price you get if you pay with insurance.
Michael: horribly and haphazardly miscalibrates the screen also Michael immediately after: "why can't I accurately click this tiny button in the corner of the screen?" lolol
Assuming that's the original hard drive, it being fro 2009 would explain why XP Home - Microsoft wasn't licensing any XP other than Home or Pro any more by that point. They really wanted people on Vista/7 (depending on when in 2009) by that time; but knew there were legacy customers who still wanted XP. So they gave them the "minimum XP" they could.
Even back in 2007 when these things came out, they shipped with either XP Home or Pro. I'm curious where you got the info about Microsoft not licensing XP Tablet PC after 2009 as I've not heard that before. But they definitely were in 2007, because I've got another XP tablet from that year that shipped with Tablet PC Edition.
@@MichaelMJDStill by this time, they were pushing for Vista to be installed onto any machine. The “Capable” stickers came out in 2005 after the operating system was first announced to the public, by release they were being made to run Home Basic.
@@MichaelMJD I worked for an OEM in that timeframe. Microsoft stopped offering anything but Home and Pro in mid 2008, then stopped anything but "XP for Legacy PCs" in 2009. (XP for Legacy was XP Home licensed for ultra-low-end systems like 32-bit-only Atom.) And finally stopped "XP for Legacy" in late 2010.
@@AnonymousFreakYT Interesting... that timing makes sense for cutting off XP licenses with both Vista and 7 being out. And I actually remember XP netbooks being in stores around 2009. Regardless, DynaVox would've had the option to license XP Tablet PC in 2007 but didn't choose to do so for whatever reason.
It´s not a tablet, but a table! BoardMaker is tool for alternative communication (for those who can´t speak or hear and this makes the communication easier.)
Yeah I did support Bluetooth it look like with the other IR blaster on it I wonder if it was able to communicate with other similar devices so people that are completely deaf could communicate with each other with it that would have been pretty cool
@@big8news I was working briefly with that program and your idea would be pretty cool! Under casual circumstances only one machine was used between two people (like if you would show some photos on your phone or tablet) :)
I found it a bit baffling that the visual design language in the custom Dynavox software seemed so outdated for something running on a Windows XP device. It looked like it would have been more at home on Windows 95, or maybe even 3.x. Then when I saw the title bar on the backup software, it finally clicked. This was indeed a piece of vintage Windows 95 software, merely upgraded with more modern bells and whistles over the years without making significant changes to the original UI.
The main reason why these things are so expensive is because of the low number of expected sales. This is not something that your average person would be using. If it costs $10 million to develop and you have ten customers you have to charge $1,000,000 per customer in order to break even. On the other hand if it costs you that same $10 million but you have 1 million customers you only have to $10 dollars in order to recoup your development costs. This is also why high end machines like the Dell XPS 21 inch laptop was so expensive. They knew they wouldn't sell very many of them and the cost to develop the product was high. It's not just the cost of the hardware itself that influences the price. As another example I fix computers for a living and do data recovery on the side. The device I use is thousands and thousands of dollars not because the hardware is so expensive but because it was expensive for the research and development and the only people who are going to buy this are people that do data recovery not the general population so the potential number of sales is very low compared to a mass market product. Products like these aren't to rip off but rather the result of simple economics of scale.
In middle school I knew a guy that had one of these bad boys. I believe he had cerebral palsy of sorts. Dude was super funny and he learned how to work this beast really well. I haven't finished the video yet but I vaguely remember there being a mode where you could string words together. This definitely brought back memories of hanging out with him and his helper at lunch time.
You got it that's why I was designed for that's why he touched the things that I speak for you this was designed for people with disabilities add king with a few extra futures to the make it easy for them like Bluetooth and IR blaster for like control on TVs and you could connect a wireless headphones to it too
7:00 Maybe they expected you to mostly just use it with their included software and not venture into regular Windows much. For $7k it should’ve had it anyway though
It would be interesting to see you put XP Tablet PC Edition on it yourself to see how well it works with it. Perhaps maybe even attempt to integrate it with the software packages it came with? (If it's even possible to find them to install them separately)
Neat! It has an kontron computer on module! Those are ETX boards, there are newer and faster modules available, I modified an car diagnostic tester from Bosch that used the same Kontron board your tablet has, replaced it with an Adlink ETX-NR667, which has a Core2Duo CPU. These ETX boards are for specialised or industrial computers and are expensive as hell for what they are.
@@cameronbosch1213 It is, my Gridcase 1950 (military laptop from GRiD) has an Kontron i7 board in it aswell, just a newer interface (COM Express) Makes it easier for the manufacturers to build these systems as they only need to design the board on which the COM module is attached to, everything else is handled by the COM.
Super cool to see videos on old AAC/speech generating devices! I'm Nonverbal and currently don't have a Speech generating device because of how expensive the dedicated devices are and going through insurance isn't a option for me right now because my caregiver/mom works a lot. We plan to get a ipad and buy the program LAMP words for life or Proloquo2go but even that is still to expensive right now. Really sucks how expensive this stuff is. Hope you do more videos on AAC devices its super cool
If you want to check and see if there is an IR Blaster, or if the one on the device is working, just point a camera at it and click the buttons on it. The camera will pick up the IR light.
RPM outdated flat panel TV or a CRT TV or VCR or something older stereo system you definitely could test it with that. There isn't it's probably not designed to control today's newer TVs balada old codes will work on newer TVs too erotic experiment with it it looked like it had a way to read the remote controls to the original remote that's what why my universal remotes do and you can program it with colds and stuff or programmed it with the other remote I have Smart remote device that works similar way to
Yeah, this is why i recently bought a HP TC1100 and a bunch of broken ones for spares... looks better, runs better even tho it was a chunky tablet pc.. with a cool detacheable keyboard and even a special dock for it.
I love how the kind of images that they use for these communication devices has not changed at all in the 20 years since this released. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I've always found the way they draw people in these strange
when i saw the tablet in the thumbnail it immediately brought me to back to when i was in middle school & made my first proper friend as we were both classified as RETARDED (Please Note: I am using Retard in a historical context) students by the school & we were forced to go to a special classroom on the window labelled in all caps FOR RETARDS ONLY!! & for months I was the only kid due to it taking me 10 minutes just to write a simple sentence (For Example: "I like potatoes") on a piece of paper so they would let me use a computer for typing out the answers as they saw i was quicker typing things when i was in the computer lab so they provided me digital copies to type on & then print out when finished. Then one day a kid named Jeremy who was born without the ability to speak comes inside & we mention about stuff we like where Jeremy & I bond over bowling, locomotives, & electronics with us becoming good friends with us each only having each other as friends throughout the entire rest of our school days as we officially graduated last year. We are still best buds & few days from now we are going to celebrate his engagement to his Girlfriend Sarah. P.S. Jeremy if you're reading this thanks for being friends for nearly a decade of my life.
XP the first OS I ever used. 2017 was when I retired my XP machine. 15 years it worked. Well, actually it still works, but no real use. Reinstalled zero times. Windows 10 I’ve had to reinstall 3 times.
thought this was a bringus studio video or dankpods seeing chonk XP lol, and awesome! another mjd video and it has one chonky boi in there now you better install some obnoxious themes on it lol
Interestingly I vaguely remember using something like this when I was younger I'm visually impaired and had speech therapy . I remember being really intrigued with its many features.i think I used the smaller model . Fascinating seeing how far we've come
12:47 That looks exactly like one of those speech engines a kid is supposedly "inventing" for his sister. Using terribly complicated code that wasn't necessary to get the same thing done in Windows XP
Ive got that same clippy- won him as a little award during our halloween murder mystery for best in character. Super cool to see the lil guy on the desk of one of my favorite tubers
Nearly 8 grand for a tablet that was 5 years out of date, fucking ridiculous, even the grid pad from 1989 adjusted for 2007 dollars would have been 4 grand, and that was one of the first tablets.
I worked at a local company specialized in sell equipment for visually impaired,and all of the stuff they sell was and still is to this day INSANELY EXPENSIVE! It's a shame that something meant to make people's life easier, becomes a big(if not HUGE) profit source for some companies...
Memory made in Germany, LCD made in Japan, PCB probably designed and made in the US, custom IDE cables that is why that thing cost so much, the IPad would of come out and killed them off, due to basic cost. However early 2000s were such a fast moving time.
Near the iPad were done a lot but I don't know if the iPad have Bluetooth back then definitely did not have an IR blaster built into it either you cannot control your TVs though Apple interface. The basic IR blaster that that thing have built-in any any TV or device to support remote control. Making it around the easy to set up for people with disabilities to are easy for them to do themselves too once they figure it out
i seen this before in high school, the kids who have problems speaking would use this to speak to other people and use it for school work and at home for tv and stuff. The school board would buy these for the kids
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I expect the laundry list of medical regulations that they had to comply made the device very expensive, since it's not enough to comply, but also to be literally certified.
That thing looks surprisingly modern for 2007. Kinda like a pre-ipad. Shame these only exist in our economic system for people who need them because someone can potentially afford it, have insurance to afford it (especially bad in 2007) or they could siphon off money from some public service or charity who has some resources to help a few people, still leaving tons in need without something to basically function.
Based on the built-in software, I'd assume they went with basic XP because the user isn't "supposed" to get into the underlying OS. It's presumably intended to be handed to a kid who just uses the custom GUI and doesn't need the XP interface - especially when they have entertainment apps like an MP3 player included. Plus how hard it is to exit the GUI.
It's meant for a kid like you said teenagers also adults with disabilities I can imagine based on the speak when you push the pictures that says the words this thing would have probably been useful for people that could not talk it's unknown if the device would be able to communicate with other similar devices since its support Bluetooth and IR blast someone like those creepy little toys that they made maybe 15 years earlier that you like Gremlins they got banned in federal government buildings cuz they're about the IR blaster taking down date on their computer systems
Hi Michael, I have watched your videos for awhile now. I particularly love the videos where you have done installations of Operating Systems like Mac OS and Linux on systems that aren't really meant to run them on. Relating to this product, I do wonder if it is possible to run anything other than Windows XP on this machine. Do you think it is capable of running Windows 7 or higher, as well as some "newer" version of Linux and maybe even older Mac OS? On a completely unrelated note, I have had multiple friends both online and in person claim that I sound like you. I myself don't hear it however I dunno if I should take that as a compliment or not lol Anyways, I hope you have an amazing rest of your day/night, stay safe, and please don't stop making these videos! Thank you!
Those devices are always interesting to look at, the only shameful thing is that they always cost a fortune, which ends up limiting them from somebody who needs it the most. Human greed amirite :/
This is a great week, goin in a road trip, new mjd vid, new gtlive meme review, random ytber i subed to getting more popular, my dad and aunts birthday, YAHOOO
Idk about anyone else but the xp mouse cursor turning into an hourglass just looks like the computer is angry, not to mention getting flashbacks to the old hard drives screaming back at you adding to it
If I'm not mistaken, the calibration program needs you to tap the dots, not just.. somewhere near them. So the calibration within the program was probably slightly off, afterwards. Watching you tap in the general area of the dots instead of precisely on them, I was like "WHAT IS HE DOING 💀"
My ex-girlfriend had ALS and she was dependent on one of a similar touch screen interface before she died. Her disease progressed extremely quickly. Just 9 months between diagnosis and the total shutdown of her body. I don't wish this upon my worst enemies. RIP.
it's sp wierd to see that boardmaker software actually used for computer interaction. my younger brother is developmentally challanged and the local sociaty for such things recommended that boaedmaker software to my parents, but not to make those interactive screens, but to take those icons, print them out, cut them out and then laminate them, which meant that, without having the language to say a thing, he could just show those (we called them pecs) to say what he wanted.
@MichaelMJD
Hello Michael!!!
Glad it made it to you in one piece!!! I still have the USB dongle that came with the unit, as I could not find the keyboard or mouse :( But I'm glad you redacted Miss G's info as I thought about it but figured that you would. I was wondering if any of the files I went through would show up as being edited, as I just looked at them here in 2024 when I snagged this unit! The original voice was the first female British voice when I got the unit. I changed it to the male voice to mess with my wife on the phone, and a keyboard to type the words... BUT the original voice was the female one.
Glad you like Clippy as well!!! And I am glad he made it to you in one piece as, lol we were looking for stuff to stuff the box with a box in the box!
How
Edit again I beg you
englisdh or spanish
Hi Michael. How can I send you something vintage?
[Insert JPG of Luffy from One Piece]
That 3d printed clippy really fits the setup well
Agreed
He gives 90's and 2000's kids PTSD, He must stay in shot, or super-imposed if not.
Now i want one lol
i love it
I disagree. I hate it staring at me.
I remember using this when I was younger, it was silver. I just remember my speech therapist having it for me to talk to my family and nurses. Luckily, I am able to talk so I do not need this anymore but it was such a cool piece of technology to use when I wasn't able to talk!
That's actually sweet, I knew someone would have a memory of this in the comments
that’s a big boi- bringus studios
Ah yes. The good ole bringus mingus
@@gdoggamerfnclipzhes the bringle
Brongus😅
@@gdoggamerfnclipzah yes Mingus snoopingas
feel like I'm getting a dèja vu or something
I have interacted with tons of these during my internship at a dept of education! These have now been relegated to windows only assistive tech software or eyetracking systems, with most students getting iPads now with software license inventory control and are quite loud for their size for voice generation, unlike those giant "bespoke" machine.
man, imagine having to take this chonk boy on a plane just to watch Shrek 2
I mean, it's Shrek 2, it's worth it
I'd do it
i would 100% do it if shrek wasnt on the monitor on the seats, or if there was no monitor at all
@@HorrorFusefire
You can watch the VHS version on that chonker
For someone who used to donate computers to kids with autism for education and social/life skill prep the amount of times we wish we had a bunch of those donated to us would of helped a lot of people but the amount to get them fixed was way to much as to getting iPads repaired that were used for accessibilty just amazing how far we have gotten in the past 20 years or so with tech
I think that clippy needs a speech bubble for you to write jokes or puns on
I love that idea! :D
Atomic Shrimp style, hell yeah
Mjd needs to see this. It would be awesome if It had some joke relevant to whatever the topic of the video was.
Heck yeah! awesome idea, someone get this comment a lot of likes so MJD sees it
Why is it that products that are made to help people (that are also often not as great as standard products) cost far FAR too much?
- You see this with pretty much anything made to help people, nearly every single form of Computer I have seen that does something like this cost a fortune.
It is disgusting that disabled people and people in need (you know, the people that struggle with daily tasks and such) are the ones that get forced to pay massive bills for things like this, the same goes for medication expenses where life saving medication often costs far too much and the person ends up passing away too early due to it.
- I Understand to an extend why these small companies may charge a lot, simply because they do not have as much customers, but I still see it as a form of scam in a way.
It is great that these things exist and so on, but with that cost, they may aswell not exist is what I am trying to say here.
Because like he said, you're getting this through your health insurance, and anytime a company goes through insurance, they just see dollar signs.
Having worked at a university computer lab now makes me wonder how many old educational computer tools are laying around resold. My boss used education funds to buy LOADS of equipment, we had hundreds of Mimio boards, early 2000s tablets and licenses for Blackboard software, and it goes on and on. The education niche could be another thing to explore some old oddball tech.
My state agency/Medicare(different groups) paid for my DynaVox V+(discussed in a different comment).
MRI Computers from Siemens are just workstations from Fujitsu (pre-2010) and then HP Z400 workstation, yet the computer costs 2500€. The old ones run a custom windows xp and the new a custom win7. All standard parts with pretty low specs. The old ones had 512mb ram up to 2gb. They also used ddr memory with a carrier card with blank memory sticks. The blank carrier alone was 200€. Also the psu is a standard 400w with one extra cable found only on those workstations. And they charge 400 euro for the psu.........
These are made for "assisted" communication, which is pretty much a sham in the first place. That + the health insurance situation explains the price. This one at least is probably a lot more expensive than the Macbook one to produce, because it's custom hardware produced in presumably very low numbers.
This is 100% some insurance price gouging. WinXP tablets costed only 1000 bux at the time and TTS software for it wasn't over 200 either, this BS is because the medical industry will charge 20 dollars for single aspirin doses in hospitals because corporate insurance pays for it
Ah American healthcare!
Those are some shit specs too. I get this wasn't really intended to do any Gene folding or anything like that but for $7,000 man. I hate insurances.
>because the medical industry will charge 20 dollars for single aspirin doses
Ha, that is a good joke.
When I was in the hospital back in 2021, a single pill of Tylenol was $60 and a tetanus shot was $700.
@@GGigabiteM Ouch! Makes me glad to have the NHS. Yes it has *many* flaws and is a money pit, and if the junior doctors get the wage increase they are protesting about it will collapse entirely. But i appreciate my free healthcare and 80p for a box of 16x Aspirin... for the short life it has left. (5 years under a Labour dictatorship, i give it 2 years tops before the NHS collapses.)
And in turn, insurance costs a shitton down the line as well, both corporate and customer types. The money is sucked out of the state, the users and the corporations all for the sake of lining the wallet of some no-names' bank accounts in Switzerland and Bahamas.
Literally looks like the sort of iPad case provided for children of autism with speech apraxia, marvelous to see how integrated technology as a whole has become in the years since
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That's.... That's literally what this device is for? Are you okay right now?
@@kidwolf0015 No duh, just interesting how much they’ve evolved with the changing times. Didn’t know they existed for that long, considering my teachers during this time simply tried handing me postcards of commonly used words to refer back to.
In my old job, we had some of these but branded as Tobii Dynavox C-12 with a 12" screen (since they were acquired by Tobii AB and thus implemented eye tracking solutions on top of the speech generation) and they were MASSIVE, they spotted two big batteries on the side and had Windows Vista with both Dynavox software and Tobii solutions. Since they added new tech they costed even more and were ONLY made for people who could afford them or, on my country case, care centers who were interested in having these solutions since the cost was far too big for a regular person, because these things costed like €5000+
I worked for Tobii Pro North America and it's interesting to see where all of these devices end up.
i want that clippy figurine in the background NOW.
cool vid btw thumbs up!
Thats exactly why they’re so expensive. They assume that people will be paying through insurance so they jack up the price. They absolutely not worth that much in materials, R&D, manufacturing, advertising etc.
What sucks is that a lot of disabled kids didn't have insurance that would cover anything like this, so the high price made accessible tech inaccessible. I have Autism. Back when I was a kid, the health insurance my family got through my dad's job refused to cover anything related to my Autism because it was a "pre-existing condition". I couldn't get anything, not even therapy. Now, at least insurance has to cover pre-existing conditions.
It's really sad that most people would be better off if health insurance just plain didn't exist at all. Because doctors and pharmas would only be able to charge what people can actually afford.
they jack up the price b/c insurance will only pay x% of the price. so if they need to get $1000, they say it's $8000 and the insurance company thinks they are getting a deal. That's why the cash price at the emergency room is 1/10th the price you get if you pay with insurance.
That horrible art style for all the icons and UI is almost nostalgic in a weird way. The gross style of my childhood
I’m glad Clippy is here now to supervise these videos and ensure, like he did in Microsoft Office, that nothing goes wrong
Michael: horribly and haphazardly miscalibrates the screen
also Michael immediately after: "why can't I accurately click this tiny button in the corner of the screen?" lolol
as a VMAX, it gives up three prize cards when knocked out
I don't play and know much of the Pokemon TCG but I chuckled reading this
My cat just looked at me like I insulted his entire bloodline, when I said "wow, that´s a chonker indeed" out loud. lol
"So I took that personally"
the cat probably be thinkin: you calling me that huh? im about to use my chonkiness to crush you
Assuming that's the original hard drive, it being fro 2009 would explain why XP Home - Microsoft wasn't licensing any XP other than Home or Pro any more by that point. They really wanted people on Vista/7 (depending on when in 2009) by that time; but knew there were legacy customers who still wanted XP. So they gave them the "minimum XP" they could.
Even back in 2007 when these things came out, they shipped with either XP Home or Pro. I'm curious where you got the info about Microsoft not licensing XP Tablet PC after 2009 as I've not heard that before. But they definitely were in 2007, because I've got another XP tablet from that year that shipped with Tablet PC Edition.
@@MichaelMJDStill by this time, they were pushing for Vista to be installed onto any machine. The “Capable” stickers came out in 2005 after the operating system was first announced to the public, by release they were being made to run Home Basic.
On the battery, it does say „RoHS compliant“. The RoHS laws came out in 2011 and were valid from 2013. So THIS particular device cannot be from 2007…
@@MichaelMJD I worked for an OEM in that timeframe. Microsoft stopped offering anything but Home and Pro in mid 2008, then stopped anything but "XP for Legacy PCs" in 2009. (XP for Legacy was XP Home licensed for ultra-low-end systems like 32-bit-only Atom.) And finally stopped "XP for Legacy" in late 2010.
@@AnonymousFreakYT Interesting... that timing makes sense for cutting off XP licenses with both Vista and 7 being out. And I actually remember XP netbooks being in stores around 2009. Regardless, DynaVox would've had the option to license XP Tablet PC in 2007 but didn't choose to do so for whatever reason.
I remember using Windows XP. It was the first OS I ever used. Didn't know these tablets existed back then. Great video!!!
How
Me too and it was best os i ever used
you ani't the only one who got there start on xp i did as well
It´s not a tablet, but a table!
BoardMaker is tool for alternative communication (for those who can´t speak or hear and this makes the communication easier.)
Yeah I did support Bluetooth it look like with the other IR blaster on it I wonder if it was able to communicate with other similar devices so people that are completely deaf could communicate with each other with it that would have been pretty cool
@@big8news I was working briefly with that program and your idea would be pretty cool!
Under casual circumstances only one machine was used between two people (like if you would show some photos on your phone or tablet) :)
I found it a bit baffling that the visual design language in the custom Dynavox software seemed so outdated for something running on a Windows XP device. It looked like it would have been more at home on Windows 95, or maybe even 3.x.
Then when I saw the title bar on the backup software, it finally clicked. This was indeed a piece of vintage Windows 95 software, merely upgraded with more modern bells and whistles over the years without making significant changes to the original UI.
The main reason why these things are so expensive is because of the low number of expected sales. This is not something that your average person would be using. If it costs $10 million to develop and you have ten customers you have to charge $1,000,000 per customer in order to break even. On the other hand if it costs you that same $10 million but you have 1 million customers you only have to $10 dollars in order to recoup your development costs. This is also why high end machines like the Dell XPS 21 inch laptop was so expensive. They knew they wouldn't sell very many of them and the cost to develop the product was high. It's not just the cost of the hardware itself that influences the price. As another example I fix computers for a living and do data recovery on the side. The device I use is thousands and thousands of dollars not because the hardware is so expensive but because it was expensive for the research and development and the only people who are going to buy this are people that do data recovery not the general population so the potential number of sales is very low compared to a mass market product. Products like these aren't to rip off but rather the result of simple economics of scale.
In middle school I knew a guy that had one of these bad boys. I believe he had cerebral palsy of sorts. Dude was super funny and he learned how to work this beast really well. I haven't finished the video yet but I vaguely remember there being a mode where you could string words together. This definitely brought back memories of hanging out with him and his helper at lunch time.
You got it that's why I was designed for that's why he touched the things that I speak for you this was designed for people with disabilities add king with a few extra futures to the make it easy for them like Bluetooth and IR blaster for like control on TVs and you could connect a wireless headphones to it too
7:00 Maybe they expected you to mostly just use it with their included software and not venture into regular Windows much. For $7k it should’ve had it anyway though
why does that look like my old CRT TV lol
old? no CRTs that slim are old
Crts are pretty coated for gaming
*goated
@@thepinktreeclub it'd still be 20+ years old
@@thepinktreeclub Look like*
It would be interesting to see you put XP Tablet PC Edition on it yourself to see how well it works with it. Perhaps maybe even attempt to integrate it with the software packages it came with? (If it's even possible to find them to install them separately)
Clippy is an absolute add to the set. I'm glad clippy's there. He fits.
My wife is a Speech Therapist so it's wild seeing this in a video.
You were offcenter in the calibration and messed it up lol. Great video though, love tech from this era!
Yeah I realized that a bit too late lol.
Neat! It has an kontron computer on module!
Those are ETX boards, there are newer and faster modules available, I modified an car diagnostic tester from Bosch that used the same Kontron board your tablet has, replaced it with an Adlink ETX-NR667, which has a Core2Duo CPU.
These ETX boards are for specialised or industrial computers and are expensive as hell for what they are.
That's interesting! So this was a niche board?
@@cameronbosch1213 It is, my Gridcase 1950 (military laptop from GRiD) has an Kontron i7 board in it aswell, just a newer interface (COM Express)
Makes it easier for the manufacturers to build these systems as they only need to design the board on which the COM module is attached to, everything else is handled by the COM.
Super cool to see videos on old AAC/speech generating devices! I'm Nonverbal and currently don't have a Speech generating device because of how expensive the dedicated devices are and going through insurance isn't a option for me right now because my caregiver/mom works a lot. We plan to get a ipad and buy the program LAMP words for life or Proloquo2go but even that is still to expensive right now. Really sucks how expensive this stuff is. Hope you do more videos on AAC devices its super cool
If you want to check and see if there is an IR Blaster, or if the one on the device is working, just point a camera at it and click the buttons on it. The camera will pick up the IR light.
RPM outdated flat panel TV or a CRT TV or VCR or something older stereo system you definitely could test it with that. There isn't it's probably not designed to control today's newer TVs balada old codes will work on newer TVs too erotic experiment with it it looked like it had a way to read the remote controls to the original remote that's what why my universal remotes do and you can program it with colds and stuff or programmed it with the other remote I have Smart remote device that works similar way to
That looks very cool wow, reminds me of how some old macs only had the screen and the entire internals inside it
XP Tablet PC Edition wasn't designed for touchscreens, it was for digitizer pens only.
That is indeed a chonky boi, I was not disappointed lol, also I adore the little Clippy on the desk!!
Yeah, this is why i recently bought a HP TC1100 and a bunch of broken ones for spares... looks better, runs better even tho it was a chunky tablet pc.. with a cool detacheable keyboard and even a special dock for it.
I love how the kind of images that they use for these communication devices has not changed at all in the 20 years since this released. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I've always found the way they draw people in these strange
when i saw the tablet in the thumbnail it immediately brought me to back to when i was in middle school & made my first proper friend as we were both classified as RETARDED (Please Note: I am using Retard in a historical context) students by the school & we were forced to go to a special classroom on the window labelled in all caps FOR RETARDS ONLY!! & for months I was the only kid due to it taking me 10 minutes just to write a simple sentence (For Example: "I like potatoes") on a piece of paper so they would let me use a computer for typing out the answers as they saw i was quicker typing things when i was in the computer lab so they provided me digital copies to type on & then print out when finished. Then one day a kid named Jeremy who was born without the ability to speak comes inside & we mention about stuff we like where Jeremy & I bond over bowling, locomotives, & electronics with us becoming good friends with us each only having each other as friends throughout the entire rest of our school days as we officially graduated last year. We are still best buds & few days from now we are going to celebrate his engagement to his Girlfriend Sarah.
P.S. Jeremy if you're reading this thanks for being friends for nearly a decade of my life.
XP the first OS I ever used. 2017 was when I retired my XP machine. 15 years it worked. Well, actually it still works, but no real use. Reinstalled zero times. Windows 10 I’ve had to reinstall 3 times.
thought this was a bringus studio video or dankpods seeing chonk XP lol, and awesome! another mjd video and it has one chonky boi in there
now you better install some obnoxious themes on it lol
Interestingly I vaguely remember using something like this when I was younger I'm visually impaired and had speech therapy . I remember being really intrigued with its many features.i think I used the smaller model . Fascinating seeing how far we've come
V and VMAX? Gotta be a VSTAR somewhere too
17:02 let me 😊😂
My son has a Dynavox that's been in storage for a while. We got it used and with the help of the school. Now he just uses special software on an iPad.
Clippy looks soooo cool!!
I cannot wait to see the experiments with this machine.
I used a similar device, the Dynavox V+ (non-verbal until est. 9 yrs. old)
The V+ is similar to the V(one main difference is the V has a Hard Drive, The V+ has a higher-capacity SSD).
17:16 - The calibration is offset.
No way! I used one of these bad boys in the day to talk before the iPad 2! What a throwback!
12:47 That looks exactly like one of those speech engines a kid is supposedly "inventing" for his sister. Using terribly complicated code that wasn't necessary to get the same thing done in Windows XP
Ive got that same clippy- won him as a little award during our halloween murder mystery for best in character. Super cool to see the lil guy on the desk of one of my favorite tubers
Install Sonic Drive-trough software on it.
Bringus alt confirmed
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man i love your videos so much. it feels like you came from 5 or so years ago before fast paced editing took over youtube
clippy needs to be a permanent resident on the setup
Nearly 8 grand for a tablet that was 5 years out of date, fucking ridiculous, even the grid pad from 1989 adjusted for 2007 dollars would have been 4 grand, and that was one of the first tablets.
I worked at a local company specialized in sell equipment for visually impaired,and all of the stuff they sell was and still is to this day INSANELY EXPENSIVE!
It's a shame that something meant to make people's life easier, becomes a big(if not HUGE) profit source for some companies...
that has terrible specs for such an expensive XP machine
Memory made in Germany, LCD made in Japan, PCB probably designed and made in the US, custom IDE cables that is why that thing cost so much, the IPad would of come out and killed them off, due to basic cost. However early 2000s were such a fast moving time.
Near the iPad were done a lot but I don't know if the iPad have Bluetooth back then definitely did not have an IR blaster built into it either you cannot control your TVs though Apple interface. The basic IR blaster that that thing have built-in any any TV or device to support remote control. Making it around the easy to set up for people with disabilities to are easy for them to do themselves too once they figure it out
Ah yes... An $8,000 Accessibility Windows XP Speech Synthesis TV Remote... man, 2007.. those were the days...
michael using the word "chonker" gives me life
i seen this before in high school, the kids who have problems speaking would use this to speak to other people and use it for school work and at home for tv and stuff. The school board would buy these for the kids
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THIS IS SO HECKIN' WHOLESOME AND VAILD
You know it’s good when there’s celery inside!
How nice of them to make a touchscreen based computer, and then NOT use XP Tablet edition, very thoughtful.
Wait. Dan? Dana? DanaVoxVMAX? Wow, Dyana must be so proud : )
Those prices are straight up insane
IS THAT A POKÉMON REFERENCE?!!??!?
we need a collab between michael mjd, bringus studios and dankpods
Didn't even know these existed then. I was just happy to buy my Acer 5150 on sale for 999.99 on sale. Worked at a grocery store to pay for this.
with a bit of reinforcement you can have the coolest buckler shield.
As soon as I saw that smaller 8" V model I thought: "Not even speech assistance machines could escape the netbook craze!"
I expect the laundry list of medical regulations that they had to comply made the device very expensive, since it's not enough to comply, but also to be literally certified.
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That thing looks surprisingly modern for 2007. Kinda like a pre-ipad.
Shame these only exist in our economic system for people who need them because someone can potentially afford it, have insurance to afford it (especially bad in 2007) or they could siphon off money from some public service or charity who has some resources to help a few people, still leaving tons in need without something to basically function.
1:00 i swear thats reselling or smth illegal to the eula
Based on the built-in software, I'd assume they went with basic XP because the user isn't "supposed" to get into the underlying OS. It's presumably intended to be handed to a kid who just uses the custom GUI and doesn't need the XP interface - especially when they have entertainment apps like an MP3 player included. Plus how hard it is to exit the GUI.
It's meant for a kid like you said teenagers also adults with disabilities I can imagine based on the speak when you push the pictures that says the words this thing would have probably been useful for people that could not talk it's unknown if the device would be able to communicate with other similar devices since its support Bluetooth and IR blast someone like those creepy little toys that they made maybe 15 years earlier that you like Gremlins they got banned in federal government buildings cuz they're about the IR blaster taking down date on their computer systems
Michael nice video today I love windows xp and longhorn! ;)
I love that clippy
I have always hated Clippy but YOU having it on your desktop is so cool.
Keep the Clippy, that way nothing will go wrong during your videos again, because he can help 😜
-1% battery, minus one, lol, good video
Hi Michael, I have watched your videos for awhile now. I particularly love the videos where you have done installations of Operating Systems like Mac OS and Linux on systems that aren't really meant to run them on.
Relating to this product, I do wonder if it is possible to run anything other than Windows XP on this machine. Do you think it is capable of running Windows 7 or higher, as well as some "newer" version of Linux and maybe even older Mac OS?
On a completely unrelated note, I have had multiple friends both online and in person claim that I sound like you. I myself don't hear it however I dunno if I should take that as a compliment or not lol
Anyways, I hope you have an amazing rest of your day/night, stay safe, and please don't stop making these videos! Thank you!
Those devices are always interesting to look at, the only shameful thing is that they always cost a fortune, which ends up limiting them from somebody who needs it the most. Human greed amirite :/
This is a great week, goin in a road trip, new mjd vid, new gtlive meme review, random ytber i subed to getting more popular, my dad and aunts birthday, YAHOOO
Seeing the Boardmaker software brought back a core memory for me.
Since I find this a primarily Windows-oriented channel, I think Clippy would be a nice addition to the background.
This is the type of device my non-verbal autistic son uses. Definitely didn't cost that much though, we have a $600 iPad + $200 piece of AAC software.
20:44 Battery Capacity -1 lol
Idk about anyone else but the xp mouse cursor turning into an hourglass just looks like the computer is angry, not to mention getting flashbacks to the old hard drives screaming back at you adding to it
If I'm not mistaken, the calibration program needs you to tap the dots, not just.. somewhere near them.
So the calibration within the program was probably slightly off, afterwards.
Watching you tap in the general area of the dots instead of precisely on them, I was like "WHAT IS HE DOING 💀"
your content is amazing
I actually just finished a home health aid class. And as a tech guy i saw this in the study book
finally MJD posted!!!!!
that clippy is perfect
This device is like that innocent child without bad manners that has the worst of the worst parents that deserves all kinds of hell
Tiled UIs remind me of supermarket scales at Rewe, Edeka or Tegut in the vegetables and fruits section…
My ex-girlfriend had ALS and she was dependent on one of a similar touch screen interface before she died.
Her disease progressed extremely quickly. Just 9 months between diagnosis and the total shutdown of her body. I don't wish this upon my worst enemies. RIP.
it's sp wierd to see that boardmaker software actually used for computer interaction. my younger brother is developmentally challanged and the local sociaty for such things recommended that boaedmaker software to my parents, but not to make those interactive screens, but to take those icons, print them out, cut them out and then laminate them, which meant that, without having the language to say a thing, he could just show those (we called them pecs) to say what he wanted.