Lab 360 | Another Blow to Big Bang! James Webb Telescope Detects a Structure that Should Not Exist
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- Another Blow to Big Bang! James Webb Telescope Detects a Structure that Should Not Exist. The James Webb Space Telescope has found not one, but 6 galaxies that were fully formed only 500 million years after the Big Bang. And that, is a problem. The galaxy is one of the smallest ever discovered at this distance, and could help astronomers learn more about galaxies that were present shortly after the Universe came into existence.
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There is nothing wrong with finding out the model needs revision. Actually, that is a very good thing.
that's exactly why they launched JWST. Acutally, that's why they launched the Hubble and constructed all telescopes and other instruments: to test all views/models/theories we currently had. That's what science is and it's amazing.
Isn'tthe first time and sure wont be the last
I don't understand how anyone, having thought about the theory, can seriously consider it as anything but a fantasy. It's nuts!
@@GabrielRGomes bravo
@@Patto2276 so what is the correct explanation?
If that telescope isn't careful it might just find itself on a CIA hit list! ☝️
😂😏
Bisa jadi...
Or the Democrats made it happen
Jeffrey Epstein was murdered.
Bro this is funny asf
When you are using a digital voice, you can punctuate your text with commas, dashes or line breaks to force the voice to pause where a real human speaking would pause. Makes it much more "realistic".
Damn right! Very annoying
@@geoffprice5357 Has someone asked Chatgpt to do a YT video for them.
I saw it tipped as a way to make money off it
Annoying isn't it?
Doesn't seem like it to me. Can you list a time point in the video for that?
I guess I hear a bit of it. If it is TTS, its a damm good one.
@@CRiZLA same mate 🤝
These scientists speculate more wildly than Star Wars script writer
Help to keep them motivated
The big bang is always discussed with such confidence but nobody seems to question what was before the big bang, I think that is a very big thing.
The flying spaghetti monster came before
@@roadkillavenger1325 well that would explain the string theory
another universe was before the big bang, probably, and of course science has questioned this. it's just not on their list. it's more important to fully prove the big bang. but if we have a universe that will eventually collapse to a single point and then expand again, this is probably what it was doing and it's just always been here. people believe god is eternal and didn't require a creator so i think that should apply to the universe too.
@@psychedelicfox4815 Humans have simple brains. We aren't nearly as intelligent as we think we are. And somehow I got a poison ivy rash on my big toe and it's bugging the holy fcuk out of me right now. I'm about to pour boiling water on it to burn it off
When you start asking, "what was there before there was something?" you abandon the physical and enter the metaphysical. Science, as a tool to gain knowledge, works brilliantly in the physical realm but cannot answer questions about the metaphysical.
The more we learn, the more we learn how little we know.
Yeah
I've always been interested in the subject of space and the universe. That's why I so enjoyed the Star Trek series, I would have loved to be able to go fly through space as depicted warp drive. But since most people will never have the opportunity to be part of a Star Trek mission, space is just something we look at and enjoy.
So thanks to the JW Telescope.
Watch The Expanse. It's more loyal to science in the realm of the physically possible.
我也很喜欢这系列的电影，因为它看起来很科幻
@David Dixon
Ohhhhh My Goodness! You and me both David!
If I woke up tomorrow and turned on the news, and heard that we now had the knowledge and the capabilities and the ship had been created already and they said it had the abilities to surpass the speed of light and don't get me started on warp drive wow!!
Let's say that they had all of the engineers, scientists, doctors, nurses, cooks and of course the captain of the ship lol and now all they were looking for was 100 volunteers out of the normal everyday public to fill some positions for "just the heck of it going" I'd be the first one in line to sign up for a determined amount of time and I would be the first one up on that ship, signing up for it!! I think it would be so cool to be able to just go through space and look at all of the fantastic things that so far we've only seen, thanks to telescopes like the JW Webb is sending back to us now in pictures I would love to see that in person!!
If we were close enough in time of something similar to that being able to come true!! It's it had to be, is make that my biggest wish on my bucket list as a matter of fact, if that dream could come true, shoot that would be MY ONLY WISH!!!! BLAST OFF!!!
This telescope been finding new things everyday but here I am trying to find my keys
So, almost immediately after the "Big Bang", whatever that material was, travelled faster than the speed of light. So does that mean this material travelled back in time? It seems like these theories contradict each other...
Space expanded faster than the speed of light... which it is still doing today. Space isn't limited by the speed of light, mass is.
@@daxeckenberg So how do they know that space was expanding that fast? You would either have to be within the space and be able to observe the "inside wall" or be outside it and be able to observe the "bubble" coming toward you. So what is the substance that makes up that demarcation point?
@@OmezGamez you can't think of spaces having an inside and an outside. When they say expanding faster than the speed of light they mean a thing that's here and a thing that's there are now farther away from each other. And that distance is a distance that's greater than light could have traveled in that same amount of time. It's my understanding that the mathematical models they have are predicting this faster than light expansion of space. Also we can observe the universe now is expanding faster than the speed of light. I know this doesn't completely answer your question and I would recommend checking out dr. Green and his various videos on the Big bang. We're pretty certain the Big bang occurred because of the cosmic microwave background radiation. Basically everywhere you look in the universe there's this consistent glow of microwave radiation. This glow is very very slight but its present everywhere you look. There's still a ton of things that are unknown. Like why is there this imbalance between matter and anti matter. We really don't have a reason for it not being 50-50. Thankfully it's not otherwise we wouldn't have atoms around.
😂So, basically, the more they know the more CONFUSED THEY BECOME!😂
The big bang theory is so shaky anyways and doesn't even explain where all the elements came from to even cause it they didn't appear out of nowhere.
agree. it feels like a simple placeholder because we dont know. something cant come from nothing.
To have something out of nothing, it's called magic, and science and magic are not the same thing. Yet, it's the scientific community that teaches such illogical thing! To me, it's at the same level of nonsense than any unicorn based religion.
I think you will find that a unicorn isn’t some magical creature from ‘my little pony’. The word unicorn derives from the Greek Septuagint ‘Monokéros’ which roughly translates as ‘one horned beast’, and is probably nearer to a Rhino than a mythical horse.
It always pays to do some research on something one knows nothing about instead of just dismissing things as myths.
@@horace9341 First of all, out of all the words I know, I haven't looked for most of them at dictionaries because I've been told by other people their meanings. So, no, I don't always search for a word. Besides, it would be too time consuming, I don't have time to remember every single word by heart! In addition, not everyone has the same viewpoint on a specific word since words have emotionnal connotation to them and we all have different set of emotions and interprete things in our own little way. So, my intention wasn't to make a point about a definition of a word, but rather to just convey a message, from what I felt, in the form of words. And as far as people understand my point, it all that matters.
Now, I've looked at a dictionnary and one definition of the word "unicorn" is indeed a _fabulous_ and _mythical_ creature! So, the definition matches what I felt about this word, even thoutgh I've learn its other meanings in the process. And yes, one another meaning is what you said, a type of rhino...
That said, I agree with you that it always pay to do some research, but be careful because all the things you find on the internet aren't facts. Even if they were, it wouldn't prove anything to you until you have a _personal_ experience about it, all it proves to you is a whole heap of written words combined in a certain way to form a sentence that convey a message. But such message can be true or false.
Anyway, I haven't just dismissed things as myth, like you said, because I knew the meaning of the word, except that I haven't learnt it from dictionary but directly from people. Especially when dictionaries seam to have divergences in their difinitions, which can only indicate that words are just a human invention and not absolute truth.
@@davideowatching Oh snap! Lol. Well said.
so the big bang theory is just a tv show now XD
I wonder where all the material for the " big bang" came from?
Our fountain of living waters. Almighty God
So maybe our universe is just a tiny nebula in the grand scale of things.
Our universe is just 1 of the seven heavens thats above us!!!
Live your best life.
@@knowyourQareen Some crazy idiot always has to ruin things with his make-believe fairytales
You're right, and who cares. Because nothing found today or in the past or the future will benefit man kind. We will never hear from or see any other life forms from distant planets, so just enjoy the time we have on this rock.
@@knowyourQareenwhy? Human life doesn't even matter
@@homie7218 it matters if one wants to avoid hell
Very enjoyable and informative video.. Thankyou! 👻🚀
The BBT has been dubious from the start. The Big Banger said the CMBR would be 50K and the Steady Staters said it would be 3K. It was 3K, but the Big Bangers got the Nobel prize. Why?
because creationism fails ever harder
@@kewakl8891
I wonder which creationists made that award? I didn't think there were any permitted on the Nobel panels.
Aren't creationists almost universally (and intentionally) excluded from elite / influential scientific panels?
Rather like the denial of Covid vaccine injuries by current western scientific / political authorities?
Also rather like the widespread denial that unborn babies really are human babies, albeit still to develop the ability to survive outside the womb? (Yet if the mother is killed, it is then recognised there were two deaths, not just the one).
And rather like the current fad of pretending there are scores of different genders, even more than a hundred.
What a strange world we now live in.
I have a strong feeling that one day we might discover that the universe is actually a giant loop and we would eventually see our very own galaxy in a very far distance 😮.
toroidal universe is already a theory.... universe spins around a donut and recycles energy through the center.... seems cool.... I like the idea that space will contract like a heartbeat and expand again in several thousand years
And if I zoom in far enough, I will be able to observe me standing in my backyard looking upwards to the sky with my binoculars. True story.
the infinite regression fallacy, it doesn't matter how many times you say "another universe" or "previous universe", you will eventually end up battling the same question your trying to avoid, What caused the creation of such reality?
I heard as a child, when you go with a ship around the world in a straight line, you come back in the same place from the other side.
From that point I think the universe is a invert sphere, you go in one direction.
Eventually you come back from the other side to the same point.
@@franshemmen4746 universe is one big magnetic field.
It’s pretty simple; universe is so vast that there has been few big bangs. In other words,
Each universe had it’s own beginning
How many universe do you think exists? Lol😂
the infinite regression fallacy, it doesn't matter how many times you say "another universe" or "previous universe", you will eventually end up battling the same question your trying to avoid, What caused the creation of such reality?
@@icywhisper2473maybe another form of matter has intelligence that could differ from ours
I am not implying that God exists.
But it is possible that there are different forms of intelligence at every level so basically we ourselves are god to Robots that is also intelligent to some degree
^ We are not Gods. There was something way beyond a human that willed the universe into existence. It wasn’t protons, electrons and neutrons, and no it didn’t just “happen” by chance. God created this universe purposely. There are no other civilizations or life in other galaxies. It’s just us.
The wonderful thing about scientific theories is that you don't have to stick to them like religious dogma. There are plenty of other explanations out there and more to discover.
The correct vocabulary is 'hypothesis'
But scientific theories and hypothesis ARE pushed in the same way. People are ridiculed for not believing in “the science.”
@@mattyounts9400 and who even knows in the world if what we hear and see on media is real and not a propaganda.
well science is not a propaganda. politics are propaganda, sometimes with a little bit of truth if it's a smear campaign, but those are no bodies of science just making things up. conspiracy theorists will disagree, but it's always because science said one thing and then it changed and these people go "see they lied to us!, which is not what happened. the science simply changed because science is not about finding a right answer.
Scientists are just wasting time
As I understand it, the first stars were made from hydrogen being compressed by gravity to the point where pressure and temperature caused fusion of hydrogen atoms to occur. Since the universe so far has been expanding, the further we go back the closer the hydrogen molecules must have been together, i.e., the denser the hydrogen clouds must have been. Could the difference in densities between these clouds at 0.5 billion years after The Big Bang and the clouds some billion years later be significant with regard to the rate of star formation?
Nice video! One suggested correction:The universe would not have been "plunged into darkness" at 380,000 years AB when the electrons bonded to hydrogen but would have been bathed in a predominantly orange glow from the light that was emitted at that "moment". Today this "light" has been stretched to microwave range and is known as the cosmic microwave background.
Agreed! “For the first 380,000 years, the universe was too hot for light to shine!” 🤣 ..despite all the protons, electrons, and PHOTONS they just said the universe was “filled” with. Maybe the bot meant, “too hot for stars to coalesce and for fusion to begin?” Either way, the bot needs better error detection. 😉🌿
Actually that is just an hypothesis , no evidence has been forth coming, as their other theories about the big bang that do not require simpleton assertions.
WE do not know if the big bang was just a big bang or it continues for 100 million years before losing charge, we also do not know if the big bang is cyclic, stop pretending you have the answers when even scientists will not state anything as actual fact.
every thing you currently see in the universe is because of 1 element only= hydrogen.
I can keep going.
general relativity was not accepted until it was observed.
You guys have no idea what you are talking about. Literally no idea. I love it when arrogance is stepped on like stepping in dog shit.
@@leifotto4277 - Did the bot write the script, a distracted human or ChatGPT _beta_ ???
The bots voice was not half bad, yet the script could have been improved or more coherent. :o
The one and only line of truth in this whole thing, at the very end, "...back to the DRAWING BOARD."
Absolutely fascinating. Let's see where the new data leads us. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat.
They don’t know about the planet we live on , I’m not surprised they haven’t got a clue what’s truly out there in space .
Who is "They?" Scientists and people who learn about science know a whole lot about this planet. In 1957-58 when I was in grade school, out at my little country school the teachers taught us all about the discoveries during IGY (International Geophysical Year) and science has gone wild since then. As for space, they have lots of clues, but you have to read books and articles to learn about it all. Can you believe it has been just 100 years since we finally understood that ALL the stars we see are exclusively from our galaxy, and that our galaxy is not the whole universe? And not until Hubble did we start to grasp that there are BILLIONS of galaxies. It's very exciting to follow along as more stuff is discovered!
💯
primordial black holes have been suggested before. now we can see that not only applies to small black holes. There may have been a soup of expansion points in the early universe. A conglomeration of big bangs each repelling the other, but not destroying the core nova. The large early galaxies may indicate that not all black holes were developed enough to have a life cycle ending nova.
So what?
Or, maybe the real thing about the Big Bang Theory is that it's only been a situational comedy all along.
The scientists are smart enough to get jwst in the air. But when it comes to the philosophy of existence, they are idiots.
😊 When I heard the narrator talkin about inflation and he said definitively what happened, it made me laugh.
They use the same philosophy of science for the theory of macro-evolution. Oh my gosh, who believes them now
@@stewartpink3117 you aren't even smart enough to get JWST into space, so I'm sure you have absolutely no grounds to judge anyone's (let alone a scientist's) take on the philosophy of existence
@@Blackhole-TON618 you absolutely missed their point, not sure you should be going around misjudging people!
We know not what this individual is capable of given the right circumstances and conditions, as his comment stands and as both a professional astronomer and as everyone else an amateur philosopher I feel it genuinely indeed holds some water 👍🤝
Lol. I came to the same conclusion you did.
There's no way we'll be able to explain existence. We can't even explain our own consciousness.
Existence would be easier to explain though 🙃
@@MrMambott EXACTLY!!WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN THE OCEANS RIGHT HERE ON OUR VERY OWN HOME PLANET, DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO BUILT THE PYRAMIDS,BUT CAN TELL US WHATS GOING ON ON ANOTHER PLANET 300 MILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY?DONT EVEN KNOW THE HISTORY IF OUR GALAXY,BUT TELLING US A DETAILED BLUEPRINT OF WHAT TOOK PLACE BILLIONS OF YEARS AGO?GET TF OUTTA HERE LMAO ,SAD THING IS SOME PEOPLE TAKE WHAT THESE SCIENTIST SAY AS THE GOSPEL TRUTH AND FACTS,,,,WHITE MAN SWEAR HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ,,, no offense regular White people,it's the higher up ones ,the elites who running the world
True
@@Blackhole-TON618 AI is programmed respons. That is all what that is.
@@fortynine3225 you can ask an artificial intelligence literally anything, noone is preprogramming every possible response ever.
Best explanation I heard yet. Great job.
indeed.
You mean wishful thinking.
"we might have to go back to the drawing board"
This CZcamsr just discovered how science works
That's after they act like, they know everything and, anything undiscovered is impossible.
@@aliensarerealttsa6198 huh
Science is a hobby, not a career. Yes, there are equations that prove certain facts, i.e. E=mc2- the amount of energy released left over upon the annihilation of any number of atoms is equal to the mass of the atoms before the annihilation times the speed of light squared. However, Einstein figured out relativity imagining a picture in his head riding in a trolley car. He further figured out gravity by picturing the light from the sun going around the moon caused by the curvature in the fabric of space from the mass of the moon. In other words, the light that was in a path towards earth was not blocked by the moon but rerouted to the earth. Thats how powerful gravity is. But I just watched an NBA player overcome gravity by dunking a basketball and yet gravity is a strong enough force of nature that the sun can pull Neptune around it in orbit for millions of years. Remember the guy that just dunked a basketball, the earth is pulling the moon closer to us every year because of gravity. What an awesome hobby!😮
@@bluevalentine2009 Neptune and other planets do not orbit around the sun. They orbit behind the sun.
"Every year" the moon moves away from Earth, not closer. Temporarily does the moon move closer to Earth as it orbits.
"Curvature of space", or space time, from mass is also untrue. It's gravity that bends light. Space has no attributes. As well as time and distance. They are just words with 0 intrinsic properties, often used by scientists to explain things they do not understand.
That's how it's always worked. It's why they abandoned calling them laws and started calling them theories hundreds of years ago. The theory must fit and explain the body of evidence currently available. When the body of evidence grows and starts to include evidence that contradicts the theory, it's time to revise the theory.
In fact, that's how humans learn.
Until All Scientics recognise the designer behind the design of the universe, their theory behind every discovery will keep changing again and again .
Then ask who designed the designer?
Faith in God is for other believers to enjoy with each other, not to try to convince materialists. It's futile. God's existence can never be proven through physical means alone. That's why Faith is Faith.
These visuals are so good 👏🏼
Artists impressions
As long as we see the universe through the lens of time, we will not understand it, IMHO.
"The universe is finite, with a brick wall at the end, guarded by a mean dog" Phil Hartman SNL.
With millions of people on the globalised world's breadlines, maybe they should divert some of the telescope- and associated-rocketry funding into supporting poverty-relief schemes (but hey! they'd sooner burn the money than spend it on the people from whose taxes it is sourced).
They have already done that, NASAs entire budget, for everything combined, is a measly 0.3%-0.5% of the US yearly budget. Compare this to 60 years ago, when NASAs budget was 4-5% of the US budget. They have reduced the budget of NASA by like 95+% since 1965 If they reduced it more, none of that money would end up going to people who need it, that isn't how the US works, ever.
@@rdizzy1 Henry Ford is quoted as having said that if the American people became aware of just how utterly they were being screwed by the Big Banks, "there'd be a revolution tomorrow". Except that that'd never happen: "the people" can't have enough of being cleaned-out by the 'Governments' and the interests controlling them (and everything else): the little people think that they're privileged and free, not suckers at all.
You know a source that'd be far more effective to divert spending from? Defence Budgets. How much good could the US do for its own citizens if they re-allocated even just 5% of their nearly two TRILLION in military spending towards poverty relief and other social programs?
The universe is “supposedly” is only 13.5 billion Years. what we could see before in the universe was 45-47 billion light years. Giving our observable universe 93 - 96 Billion Light Years across…and the Scientists say our UNOBSERVABLE universe is 25 trillion Light Years across…
Now with Webb, i am sure it is much much much Larger.
You know what is great about the scientific method, it uses new information to adjust theories and hypotheses.
It would be nice, if they actually changed according to new data collected, but they do not change anything. As scientists just stick with what they learned in school.
@@florafuana3162 You’re so full of it. If scientists just stuck with what they learned in school, we’d still be thinking space contained the aether, we have a static universe, dinosaur tails dragged on the ground and were all cold-blooded, plodding creatures. Plate Tectonics wouldn’t be a thing. Pluto would still be designated a planet, Mars would still have canals. We’d still think the Van Allen Radiation Belt was impassable. Quantum Mechanics wouldn’t exist. We’d believe that all life was dependent on the sun, in some form, for it’s energy. Computers would still need an entire room for the same processing power found in your pocket.
I always say science is about being wrong, then realizing it, being grown-up enough to admit to it, then go back and figure out the correct answers.
Until they factor in that the universe was created by God supernaturally their naturalistic models will continue to fail.
"figure out the next best educated guess"
And life in the womb begins when?
We’ve discovered we (and by we, I mean they) were wrong about the age of the universe before. Could this just be another one of those?
Its a galaxy from a previous universe that wandered into its sister galaxy's new universe..
How were they wrong? Name specific instances and dates
@@patldennis is this new news to you?
They used to think it was not expanding and had no age, but had always been as it is. Einstein at first ridiculed the man who first came up with the idea (Georges Lamaitre). He used Einstein’s theories and realized it predicted an expanding universe. Einstein told him that “your grasp of physics is abominable”. It took a lot to convince Eintstein that he was wrong about that, but he finally admitted that the universe is expanding and extrapolating from that, the Universe has an age.
In 1928 or 1929 Edwin Hubble said it was 2 billion years old. In 1952 Walter Baade said it was 6 billion. 1958 Alan Sandage determined it to be 15-25 Billion years old. I remember reading books or articles as I was growing up every time I read something new about it there was a different age mentioned (usually getting older and older each time) 1991-2000 there was the Hubble key project. They decided on what value of the Hubble constant should be used and the age has been pretty consistently called 13.7 or 13.8 Billion years (give or take a couple hundred million years). For the last several years that is about what they have been calling it. Now we have new information from the James Webb. Perhaps it is time for a new estimated age for the universe.
@@patldennis specific instances and date? Well given all of history, that allows me to pretty much choose any date before now at random. Let's go with March 2nd, 520 B.C. Not that March or even the concept of B.C. existed then, but neither did the accurate age of the universe either, so there you go.
But seeing that far in the early universe is really hard. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Beautiful images
'Inflation' is a fudge.
The BBT is all fudges right from the start.
for Linde?
The more I listen to the big bang theory being explained, the more it sounds like a faith based idea.
No shit.. a lot of science is... have you still got faith in the 5th booster? What about Men giving birth? Just follow the science! Or should I say the paper trail!
It's a good time to major in physics!
if the space is infinite, the possibilities are infinite
Amazing discovery! Now I'm curious if there are any very old intelligent civilizations in those galaxies how advanced they would be by now? It's interesting and terrifying at the same time.
They might have faced the same constraints as humanity might do, i.e. there could‘ve been countless civilizations in the past as well!
@@insertname956 Whats more interesting is the constraints they may have felt that we do not, take for example they had 3 suns instead of one, and so every couple hundred years they get reset as a species due to extreme destruction events, or would we find out the the universe is empty, not in the way you might think however, instead of there not being any life, perhaps the universe is blossoming with black flowers hiding in the shadows of a dark forest, there may be something that destroys any civilization that shows itself, or someone. Or maybe we're in a sort of zoo, a region of space cut off from the rest due to some sort of contamination, maybe some of our emotions like anger, greed, lust, and fear are a disease rather than a life style, and until we can overcome them, we'll enter a new world of prosperity, just speculation but it really could mean anything
QUESTION: why do near death experiences sometimes have the feeling of approaching a black hole, a threshold, a point of no return with impending sense of doom and an immense distortion of time, to an eternal aspect?
Smart Alec response: Approaching a black hole would be a near death experience.
Real response: Near death experiences might cause the mind to think back to previous points in one's life, looking for a way to prevent death, as if there is something that can be done in one's final moment to change the outcom.
A quickening.. yes..
sense of doom isn't common. NDEs are almost always reported as peaceful, "loving" experiences. "hellish" experiences are rare.
There's only one way to find out...
@@miracle_grrrl_mira I’m sure your right the peaceful type are more common. I had the extremely unpleasant type. Caused PTSD which I’m now over. This type is common enough for Imperial college london to list to list it in their online survey of NDE and psychedelic experiences.
All of these speculations about the significance of these recent JWSP discoveries show just how little we really know about the Universe. Also, all of these former and now newer theories about the age and the size of the Universe, and something which would also explain the too early emergence of these galaxies would be understood differently if we just finally accepted the obvious conclusion that the speed of light is infinitely faster than what we think it is.
This reminds me of that Star Trek episode where these aliens always said they were smart. "We are smart".
You are alive in the universe and you should feel small because you are but a grain of sand . thanks for the video lab 360 very exciting
True
True the pale blue dot
Well, it depends... Physically, yes, we are infinitesimally smaller than the universe. But in terms of value, I think we are way bigger. For instance, we have consciousness and free will, which give us the ability to understand things, to experience freedom and the emotion of joy. On the other hand, the universe can only act within the framework of the physical laws dictate. It has no freedom of choices and can't experience joy or any other emotion for that matter, due to the very lack of consciousness. It can't even acknowledge the truth about itself, as to how big it is. But we, small grains of sand, can!
@@davideowatching listen to Carl Sagan's pale blue dot it will humble the biggest
@@davideowatching We've got 'consciousness' and that's a plus, but so much of our behaviour is still determined by/bounded by the drives and instincts of our primitive 'savage' forebears: we're just animals under the skin.
I would suggest that the universe is much, much older than we think.
it may be eternal and just ending and beginning again.
After all this I still barely can wrap my mind around the fact we can see that far back. Even though it doesn't exist. The light transferring that point in time even exist. So in essence, even if it doesn't exist...it technically does. Just accepting that seems paradoxical and impossible yet not
JWT “if something happens to me I didn’t off myself!” 😅
Each of those six galaxies represents an infinite stone 😅
The ' settled science ' brigade will be going nuts.
Who are the members on that brigade? There's no such a thing as "settled science." Only religious beliefs are settled. That's the big difference. Science is fallible. And we are ok with that.
@@BayesRules LOL
@@BayesRules Seattled means conspiracy theories and diplomacy theories. You are a supporter.
Amazing ❤
Many people do not understand that studying the Universe with a telescope is like trying to read a map through a keyhole. Bloody fools! Centuries ago, we thought that Earth is flat! We know nothing!
The Big Bang explanation is the same as the dog watching his master build a garage and explaining his scientific theory about what's happening to the cat.
Bro 🤣🤣
If it is discovered the Big Bang is completely wrong, does that automatically mean that one particular set of books written by Bronze Age goat herders is correct?
The beauty of science is that through constant questioning, testing, and discovery, it is self correcting.
Through this scientific method the 5 year survival rate of childhood leukemia has risen from 58% in the 1970s to 90% today. Image what the survival rate would be if we relied only on prayer.
I often wonder if black holes are similar to a star. Perhaps they can only get to a certain size and mass before they explode like a star in its death throws?
The limitation on a stars size is the amount of nearby gas initially available when it's forming. Once gravity has compressed it enough to start nuclear fusion and it's then generating light with a solar wind it's difficult to attract more mass. A black hole does not have this problem. There doesn't seem to be an upper bound on the size of a black hole. During the growth phase a black hole has an accretion disk which is the bright ring looking structure. As long as there's matter nearby it will continue to expand. However due to Hawking Radiation it will eventually evaporate away to nothing. This won't happen while there's still a large amount of mass nearby to consume.
Death throes
Time to rethink Red shift causes, solar models, quasars, black holes and CMB, dark matter and dark energy. Everything should be on the table.
I do wish people would stop saying things like 'these should not exist' when it is perfectly obvious that they do in fact EXIST.
It would be great if scientists started using terms like " we think, if we're correct or hopefully, instead of we know, it's is and dark matter. I'm curious and a very critical thinker. I often get told I'm crazy or stupid but then every day things are being learned that force us to challenge the standard model. We should always challenge the standard model in everything because that is the only way we learn. If the standard model fails under constant scrutiny then it wasn't right to begin with. Think about it , we are told that you can not go faster than light yet right away first thing before the universe is a second old we get inflation. Why don't more people have a problem with this explanation? No shit we are wrong. It never made sense to begin with. Then there is dark matter which I think everytime I hear it, why can't this guy just say we don't know so we say something that we hope you don't know it means we don't know. I have no problem admitting I don't know but if I tell you I do and then you write papers based on my info then you are even more stupid for believing what I said.
It’s scandalous when scientists talk about theory as if it’s fact. Happens all the time these days.
Couldn't agree more. Have been saying that for many years.
The notion of dark matter itself inherently is the fact that it is a placer for an unknown observable and documented phenomenon. It is real but they don’t know exactly what it is. It’s just a name for the phenomenon. I thought this was common knowledge. It could be called Apple but it wouldn’t change the fact that there’s something going on that’s not aligned with the observable universe. It’s either a thing or wrongness in calculations. Who exactly says dark matter is fact? Examples?
@@Bruce22027 Theory is the framework used to describe HOW the facts work together.
Inflation does not contradict general relativity. General relativity says matter cannot move faster than the speed of light without infinite energy. Inflation refers to the expansion of space itself, which is not matter and has no such limits. And general relativity and the Big Bang have mountains of evidence behind it. Just because we don’t understand how these galaxies are well formed so earlier after the Big Bang doesn’t contradict the Big Bang or general relativity, it just means there is still more we don’t understand. If you can find a contradiction for either scientists will stop viewing both as theories but that has never happened even under intense scrutiny.
How do they know all this? Seems awfully detailed for guessing.
They’re just making shit up to deny the existence of God. They keep pulling these numbers & off-the-wall theories out of their asses that have no real basis & make no sense. It’s comical. God is real. They need to accept it already.
This some good sci fi right here.
We know nothing about this Cosmos at this point of time.
Would love to see a show like this with actual pictures and not computer animated images. Also they always show the Hubble and JWST inside the camera shot. They would not be in the camera shot they are the camera. Just something that bugs me. Other than that, good job :P
Some of them are images
The JW telescope works with infra red light, invisible to the human eye. The pictures have to be computer adjusted to the visible spectrum so we can see them.
@@mirandahotspring4019 but why do we need fake video of the JW telescope in the shot? That’s what i dont like. Computer adjusted pics to make them get more viewers I understand. There is no other telescope or ship following behind the telescope so I want to see what it sees and not a video with the added telescope
@@windmasterfluke You can't see what it sees. The infra red it "sees" is outside your visible spectrum.
@@mirandahotspring4019 I just don't want to see the telescope flying around like there's is a camera floating behind it.
Imagine someone thinking the only life to ever evolve is on this rock. 😂
You have FAITH, then?
A half century ago scientists just KNEW, like you, that if they listened carefully, they would identify intelligent life outside earth. Didn't happen.
So the propositions they suggested were tested empirically, and rejected.
That's actually been done repeatedly and no evidence to support the proposition has been found.
In SCIENCE, the proposition would be rejected. However, if you have religious faith in your proposition, that can be renewed every day.
Assuming evolution is really 'a thing', of course.
Not all scientists agree, though.
But those who don't are carefully kept out of mainstream media reports, documentaries, etc and their output is censored from the western world of education.
No wonder evolutionist claims are so popular and widespread.
Only the one side of the debate is permissable in 'civilised society'.
But alternative scientific perspectives are available.
You just need to be curious and free-thinking enough to investigate.
I wouldn't give 2 shakes for a scientist who "DIDN'T " believe that their theory proven wrong is just as exciting as their theory being proven correct!!!!
All matter was closer together, thus makes sense that stars and galaxies form much faster than it billions of years later.
its amazing to hear what people think they know about whats out there--all speculation and educated guess at best--the more i see out there the more it reinforces the fact that there is a God that designed it all and set it i motion--it takes much more faith to believe in the big bang than a supreme designer
That is a theist's response - I don't understand therefor god. Intellectual laziness.
@@Krutchly Science is not supposed to be dogmatic. The philosophy behind the scientific method is to explore what we are capable of. Religion, spirituality and topics we cannot possibly explore are to be left untouched. Lack of evidence is not the same as evidence of improbability either. What frightens me the most is how science has become a dogmatic religious worldview. This is in opposition to how the scientific method was designed to work. As for God, that is not something we can study with logic, let alone science.
@@florafuana3162 Well, you got some of it right - god definitely does not fall under the umbrella of logic. As for scientific study - neither can we study pixies, leprechauns and Puff the Magic Dragon for the same reasons.
Only wish I could be around to see how wrong what scientists think they know, actually is.
Maybe you’ll be around long enough to learn how to speak English
Fascinating stuff.
Study the Bahai Writing's on the subject. The process of Creation has no beginning and can have no end.
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
There is no god but God, He is One, He has no partner; His is the dominion, and His is the praise; He alone grants life, and deals death, and He is living and dies not; all good is in His hand, He is powerful over all things, and with Him all things have their end.
It is imperative that Lab 360 clearly identify and label (like the Lab 360 logo in the upper left corner) CGI, computer simulations and artist renditions from actual photos and data from telescopes - otherwise, many unconfirmed images take hold and mess up the unknowns that science is trying to solve Sites like Astrum do this, much to its credit. This approach avoids misleading fantasy and speculation and gives a much more true picture of reality. Still "pretty" and entertaining, but much more accurate about the current state of technology and thinking.
Truly astounding that these early galaxies are so mature. I would like to know what some initial hypotheses there are. Is the flow of time not as consistent as we thought? Did these well formed early galaxies fall into our universe from another? Possibly through the big bang itself?
The most likely theory is, they have no clue what they're talkin about
Why are they all galaxies though and not huge areas before they form into sophisticated galaxies?
Maybe it's as simple as a galaxy can form faster than we theorize.
@@MikeJones-eh6el I think one of the theories I've seen mentioned was a cyclical life of the universe, but instead of EVERYthing getting condensed back to a single point, it merely gets to a "critical mass" point where it can't hold together anymore, and that there may be supermassive black holes from previous cycles that don't merge into whatever you'd call the Big Crunch mass before it detonates, which cause such otherwise inexplicably large early-universe galaxies.
Often wondered if those black holes could be vacuum tunnels to hell. Lord only knows.
That was the premise in the movie "Event Horizon". Could be!
I have a feeling that we'll be "back to the drawing boards" for a while.
I see big problems with "going back to the drawing board". According to all the theory around the Big bang. "Drawing boards" didn't exist 300 million to 600 million years after the Big bang.
I have a question and maybe it has already been answered, but why can't we send one of these telescopes into one of the black holes to see what the outcome would be? Or do we already know?
The furthest object that has been sent out from earth is Voyager 1. It is 159.14AU from earth.
The closest black hole is 98,656,080AU from earth.
Even if we could get something anywhere near a black hole, it would take billions of years, and then the craft would be ripped apart
Someone smarter can correct me, but from what I know, a black hole is basically a gravity vacuum, it sucks everything in, an anything it does basically gets crushed to the point it just becomes energy an then becomes part of the black hole itself.. I don't think scientists really know what happens if anything were to survive to reach the singularity inside a black hole, I'm not sure anything could though..
We can't get too mars😅😅😅😅
@@Blackhole-TON618 but how do we know that if we have never gotten anything close to it. I am just saying we study these things and have hypothesis of what could happen. But do we really know for sure this is the outcome of going in a blackhole if we have never been.
i was never rooted to Big Bang theory not because that it is not a plausible one..... but because i underestimate the human knowledge and wisdom for the issue of the birth of universe.
Do not forget that less than a century ago we had the belief that our Milky Way galaxy was the whole universe!!!
let that sink for a moment....
How do people not just freak out thinking about where the fuck everything comes from 😩
I sometimes like to think that the galaxies of our universe are just stars in a much greater universe or greater reality set to continue growing and expanding, a reality that we as we are now are unable to process it, there's one person that we know of who's currently sitting above all.
A fun aspect of modern science is that it opens our minds to all these possibilities.
0:18 that circle of stars... i want to know/see more of it
Same, I was curious about that formation as well.
All this does is essentially change the time in which we believe it happened
Why couldn't a big bang occur inside an existing universe and what we are seeing are galaxies that already existed in that universe. A pop up big bang makes a lot of sense vs a big bang inside of nothing at all.
yea just about, say, five minutes worth of eternity. Barely long enough for a cosmic coffee break.
im wondering if they are the homes to type 3 civilizations. civilizations that can harness the power of a galaxy
Not really. The timing of the Big Bang is based on measuring the expansion of the universe and running the clock back until everything was basically touching. In a singularity. It could have happened earlier or not at all. Or some other things happened along the way to change the speed of expansion.
What are your qualifications?
I remember the day JWST launched. I had a morning run with my daughter in DC, we saw monuments. I made pancakes that she actually ate. I spent the afternoon checking in on JWST and drinking. Flawless launch (SpaceX wasn’t involved). I have to say, it was a pretty good day.
Nice story, I like the part about your daughter eating your pancakes LOL.
SpaceX owns the most reliable rocket on earth
@@Fummy007 I thought they used rapture engines? Because I think soyuz has a track record 🤔
Nice 🙂
@@stephenrutherford He doesn't like Elon anymore because Elon isn't a completely ideologically possessed Maoist. Therefore Space X and Tesla are now bad.
This is no surprise. Paradigm shifts are a constant with science. Our knowledge of the universe has barely scratched the surface.
"Nothing is impossible, my friend".
But did time and matter have a start? That all that matters.
Something is eternal & infinite. I think it is vacuum (emptyspace).
To my mind, time is just the measurement of changes in the flowing of matter.
As for matter, it has to have existed for an infinite amount of time, otherwise, it would mean that at some point, it just popped out of nowhere, out of nothing. Which wouldn't make any sense because to have something out of nothing is called magic, not science.
Now, I'm not saying matter has always existed in the same form. I would say matter is just energy combined together and rearranged in a specific manner, so that we can interpret it as distinct elements at our scale. But in terms of scaling, I believe it goes down forever, which means we would never see things at their fondamentale level, and can only ever have a specific interpretation of reality depending on how far we can zoom past the subatomic scale.
My understanding is Einstein’s theory showed time is a physical property, and that matter and space sprang into existence and with it time. Time is a physical property.
Space may be needed to accommodate matter as we know it, but another dimension may not need either matter (spiritual dimension) or space to accommodate it, as it’s not physical, nor time as it is occurring parallel, outside space-time.
@@christianguthrie6614 I have never studied Einstein's own theory of relativity, and never have found a logical enough explaination over the internet. So, all I got left is my own reasoning and logic to build my own opinion on the matter.
So, to me, time can't be a physical dimension, because it means someone who lives there would be able to travel towards both the past and the future. But then, that person wouldn't actually be travelling in time, because even if they travel towards the past, it would still be the future for them as they are travelling in a linear manner toward that "past". In other words, that person would have a time that is just an abstract construct and our time, relative to them, is just like a movie that can be playing forward or backward, that's all.
Regarding space, I don't buy all those explanations either, not to mention that space-time is just a _theory_ based thing. Indeed, they talk about "curvature" of space... Does it even make any sense? How can space ever be curved? Because if it can, then it does so relative to another space, which means the bending "space" isn't space, but the one behind it and relative to it. I think the whole thing is just an explanation out of many million others. You know, you can have a sheet of paper on the street, on a specific spot, then, 10 minutes later, it's no longer at that spot. Well, it could be that a person have picked it up and throwed it somewhere else, or it could simply be the wind causing doing it. So, an explanation that works doesn't necessarily mean it's a truth.
Now, in terms of other dimensions, if they exist, they must be physical. They just obey different laws that allows them to coexist with ours and to past through ours. Logically, for something to exist, it has to occupy a certain volume in space. You cannot have two objects occupying the same space at the same point in time, one must move away first for the other to take its spot. If an object have no size or volume, then the other object would be able to coexist with it at the same point in time. Of course, that can never occur and, to me, it's the same level of reasoning than saying we can magically have something out of nothing. Now, I said other spiritual dimensions can coexist with ours, but I meant it as a whole, because at the individual level, each individual substance that compose those dimensions can't occupy the same spot in time as any of our physical dimension one does.
That's how egotistical humans are, we think we're the center of intelligence in space.
JEHOVAH is 😀
We are all God’s creation , there is divinity in every living being , we are the universe looking back at ourselves.
God is not real and we are the center of the universe since we haven’t found unintelligent life like we have her on earth like these idiots that believe in God
Until you find another intelligent life form somewhere else .. we are.. well not you, you're not that intelligent to start with
@@FartSquirel I'm calling the cops you just killed someone
It could be that we are seeing a gravitational lensing effect, possibility looking at our current time🤔 If this is the case we will never be able to see any further out than what the JWST can currently see 🧐
Supposedly gravitational lensing only happens on a "smaller scale". Like when studying black hole/dark matter, etc. The lensing happens with galaxies and clusters of galaxies.
The actual obstructions of viewing the universe edge is apparently more due to background radiation and redshifting which makes everything fainter.
It's all above my head either way.
My personal belief is that the universe exist now as it always was, presently and will be in the future. I believe that the galaxies and the light from them has nothing to do with looking back in time but rather the distance between us and them. They all exist at the same moment and thus did not evolve in the manner in which we have proclaimed in theory. Yes it takes time for light to travel but not because it derived from some singular point but simply because of the distance.
So the Big Bang theory is just hot air
No. A layman visualization. Imagine a water drain as a simplistic visualization of a black hole. Run the visualization backwards for A simplistic visualization of a white hole. Every thing has travelled through the center, leading to landing on expanding spacetime. Time is the constant that without it, we can locate the center where Big Bang happened on the space. But, time is like the strings of balloons coming together in a knot (Big Bang), leading to space where the strings of time have brought the space expanding forward in all directions. Everything was at one place in one time therefore everywhere was the center of the Big Bang universe at one time. In search for beginning, you tell me where the beginning of a circle is, and I tell you where you think the circle ends. If you think of the circle or sphere as an expanding circle or sphere, the focal point is the beginning of the circle or sphere and the center at one time, was every point in the circumference of the circle or the sphere. The center of the universe is a location hidden by time and out of our view by 13.73 billion expanding years out of our visual range by minimum of 33 billion light years of viewed expansion in a 93 billion light year visual horizon, which in that picture only, we’re the focal point (center).
incredibly interesting take! … and I bet most people wouldn‘t even bother reading this much :)
@@iamindin001most people believe in the Six-Day period which is bull and Adam and Eve and now Adam and Steve lol
@@rezadaneshisomething doesn't come from nothing
@@22NiggaPlease Just for fun, what if an unstoppable force collided with an immovable object? What if the unstoppable force is time, and the immovable object is a singularity? You can explain the answer in Big Bang, inflation and expansion In many models without any paradoxes. Study singularity (minimum 2 solar mass) for physical meaning for infinitely dense and infinitely small as definition for nothing.
My theory is that black holes create universes. They gobble up everything till they become too massive and explode. Also, older galaxies on the edge of our universe could be drifters from some of the other universes.
I thought about black hole farts creating galaxies and or universe
Lol black holes fade away quicker than the universe, my guy, you theory is bunk
Can it gobble up joe, hunter, hillary?
My theory is black holes are nothing but vortices created by Big Bang. Smaller ones pull in material, get clogged up and create stars. Remaining material orbiting form planets and asteroids. Larger vortices create galaxies with their rotation pulling in material. Makes more sense than huge stars collapsing to me. Gas nebulous are where bottom of vortices end
@@kevinknight8889
Of course it's black holes, and not God.
We are constantly looking behind our galaxy for older galaxies to explain how and why ours formed. Have we ever looked ahead of our own galaxy to observe younger formations? Galaxies that are younger than our own? What is ahead of us? What are we moving towards in the cosmos?
There is no forward or behind, there is only distance. We find younger galaxies in the very far distance, since those galaxies light is just now reaching us. The older galaxies we can see are nearby, as the light is more recent.
So, where our galaxy is heading? We don't know. but we've been able to determine that we're moving towards a point in space that many others in our cluster are moving towards. We can't see it since it's shielded behind the galactic disk's dust.
Our galaxy is going to collide with another in about trillions of years but before that sun will expand to a point that it'll eat our entire solar system in about billions of years and we will cease to exist without witnessing neither of those
The black hole and gravity is king of the universe
Great
I think we have a book describing who was/is in charge of the 'drawing´board.
The Big Bang was not all matter from a sigularity, but a phase change in a sigular point inside an infinite archaic monolithic "soup". This phase change expanded faster than light leaving behind it a fast expanding cosmos wherein forces separated, elementary particles condensing out of fields leaving behind a dark matter matrix like an empty "womb". All also expanding under the gravity pull of a vast birthing cosmos. The birthing front is racing outward faster than light into the remaining archaic monolithic "soup".
Other phase changes may also have given birth to similar events, far outside our newly formed cosmic realm.
(There is a dimension wherein a unique event is simultaneously present everywhere at once, regardless of our 3D+T consciousness.)
As matter condenses out if the archaic "soup" front, it forms complex structures.
What you call my momma🤔😂🤣
What's your point, you are hallucinating!!!
Agreed. Those are my thoughts as well. The "big bang" is nothing more than a phase transition.
How do you know?
That's a lot of soup.
Good theory.
I'm just gonna get in front of this and say "Webb didn't hang itself"
I'm not a religious person by any stretch. But I've always had a problem with the Big Bang theory....largely because it requires that you believe that before the bang....there was nothing.
At all.
Just nothing. No light. No time. No gravity.....nothing.
Things don't just pop into existence from nothing. If the bang is true...then there clearly had to be something before the bang in order to cause it to happen. I don't care what our current understanding of the universe says (at one point our current understanding of the universe was that all celestial bodies revolved around the Earth...that was accepted science at one point). I feel a similar way about black holes; things don't just cease to exist. Nothing does. All matter and energy is only ever transferred from one state to another. But the current theory of black holes is that anything that crosses the event horizon just ceases to exist. Where did it go? Where did the light go? Where did the matter go? Where did the particles go? They certainly go somewhere, its just that engineers and scientists have a really hard time admitting when they don't know something.
Science is actually really good at admitting they don't know something. Its religion that is insecure about the unknown.
In much the same way that religion tells us that a god created the universe - from nothing.
@@markb3786 Is that so? I guess you didn't witness the same "vaccine" that isn't a vaccine that I did. Even though the "science is settled"...
@@Krutchly Except religion doesn't require that at all. Considering you have to believe that there was a God before there was a universe. So, it does in fact require that you believe that there was actually a thing that caused the universe to come into existence.
Not that it just, poof....materialized into existence from nothing...and without reason or cause.
Now go ahead and re-read your retarded statement. One belief system actually provides a reason for the universes existence and creation. The other doesn't.
Its almost as if the universe is younger than we expected
Fair comment, Andrew.
I love the fact that there is still not an answer!🍺😎🇬🇧
8:25 just wow, universe is amazing.