THE CONCORDE STORY
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The Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde is a turbojet-powered supersonic passenger airliner, a supersonic transport (SST). It was a product of an Anglo-French government treaty, combining the manufacturing efforts of Aérospatiale and the British Aircraft Corporation. First flown in 1969, Concorde entered service in 1976 and continued commercial flights for 27 years.
Among other destinations, Concorde flew regular transatlantic flights from London Heathrow (British Airways) and Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport (Air France) to New York JFK, profitably flying these routes at record speeds, in less than half the time of other airliners.
With only 20 aircraft built, their development represented a substantial economic loss, in addition to which Air France and British Airways were subsidised by their governments to buy them. As a result of the type's only crash on 25 July 2000 and other factors, its retirement flight was on 26 November 2003.
Concorde's name reflects the development agreement between the United Kingdom and France. In the UK, any or all of the type-unusual for an aircraft-are known simply as "Concorde". The aircraft is regarded by many as an aviation icon.
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General characteristics
Crew: 3 (2 Pilots and a flight engineer)
Capacity: 92-120 passengers
(128 in high-density layout)[N 9]
Length: 202 ft 4 in (61.66 m)
Wingspan: 84 ft 0 in (25.6 m)
Height: 40 ft 0 in (12.2 m)
Fuselage internal length: 129 ft 0 in (39.32 m)
Fuselage width: maximum of 9 ft 5 in (2.87 m) external 8 ft 7 in (2.62 m) internal
Fuselage height: maximum of 10 ft 10 in (3.30 m) external 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) internal)
Wing area: 3,856 ft2 (358.25 m2)
Empty weight: 173,500 lb (78,700 kg)
Useful load: 245,000 lb (111,130 kg)
Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce/SNECMA Olympus 593 Mk 610 afterburning turbojets
Dry thrust: 32,000 lbf (140 kN) each
Thrust with afterburner: 38,050 lbf (169 kN) each
Maximum fuel load: 210,940 lb (95,680 kg)
Maximum taxiing weight: 412,000 lb (187,000 kg)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2.04 (≈1,354 mph, 2,179 km/h, 1,176 knots) at cruise altitude
Cruise speed: Mach 2.02 (≈1,340 mph, 2,158 km/h, 1,164 knots) at cruise altitude
Range: 3,900 nmi (4,488.04 mi, 7,222.8 km)
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,300 m)
Rate of climb: 5,000 ft/min (25.41 m/s)
lift-to-drag: Low speed- 3.94, Approach- 4.35, 250 kn, 10,000 ft- 9.27, Mach 0.94- 11.47, Mach 2.04- 7.14
Fuel consumption: 46.85 lb/mi (13.2 kg/km) operating for maximum range
Thrust/weight: 0.373
Maximum nose tip temperature: 260 °F (127 °C)
Runway requirement (with maximum load): 3,600 m (11,800 ft) - Věda a technologie
I spent my entire life in the flightpath of the Concorde to JFK. And every time I would hear it I would go outside and watch it in awe! It was just a little louder, but it had a distinctive engine noise.
I miss it.
Wilbur Finnigan Actually when the FAA tested the noise of Concorde for certification in the 1970s it was quieter than a B-727.. research before you embarrass yourself please...
Complete Aerogeek The 727 was probably one of the noisiest planes in the air...bad comparison..
Wilbur Finnigan No the B-727 had P&W JT-8D engines that were quieter than the JT-3D used on the B-707. As a contemporary low bypass turbofan engine of the era it is a valid comparison.. In fact as the Olympus 593 was a turbojet not a turbofan, it would be more fair to compare it with the JT-3C turbojet fitted to the earlier B-707 which was an ear shattering experience to behold.. The simple fact is when tested with sound measuring recording devices by the FAA and the Port Authority of NY/NJ the noise protests were exposed for what they were pure politics and the Not Invented here syndrome.
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Yep, either the take off or
approach, was right over Rkways, and Marine Park Bklyn, on a low thick fog
day her thunder would set
off the car alarms on Knapp St!
My parents purchased this on DVD for me nearly a decade ago. Two international house moves later, the DVD was lost. It came back to my memory about two years ago, and I looked everywhere for it, to no avail. Suffice to say, I can't thank you enough for uploading this!
+edmaircraft rip it with freemake video downloader in max quality then back it up somewhere else.
My father installed the flight computer in the first British Concorde back in the late 60's in Filton Bristol. We lived in Kent and you could hear Concorde when it flew over after leaving Heathrow airport the engines were that loud. I'd go running in from the garden shouting "dads plane is flying over"
Real proud of my dad and Concord.
My father did the maths to calculate the centre of mass of the aircraft.
I remember the posters we had of concorde, and the description of four Rolls-Royce engines.
I didn't understand at the time but it was a remarkable achievement.
@@civis.revixit During the 60s and 70s My granddad was a chief planning and estimating engineer involved with aspects of the Concorde design. I was proud of him when growing up and still proud of him to this day!
@@INVICTUS9100 wow.
I still think that concorde is a fantastic achievement.
We don't have supersonic commercial aircraft now, except for Elon Musk and his rockets.
Woow, you're so lucky Richard ! I saw her once back in 2002, I was 15. I'll never forget her and how beautiful she was. When she took off, she made me think of a swan because of the nose of this aircraft.🏴🕊
You should be proud.
R.I.P. the greatest piece of aviation in history
Made possible by brilliant engineers, ingenuity and perseverance. Result:the most beautiful man made aircraft ever created. It still is....
I repainted the leading edges of both mainplanes on a Concorde at Heathrow as part of my RAF practicle trade training as an aircraft refinisher. We had a good look around the interior and exterior and I remember, as a 17 year old, being in absolute awe of this beautiful airframe that could fly commerical paying passangers accross the Atlantic in just over 3 hours at 50,000 feet and at twice the speed of sound. I am confident that a more ecconomically viable model of operatiing a supersonic airliner will soon be proposed and feel rather dumfounded that a one off multifacted incident and climbing costs meant that these perfectly air worthy aircraft were doomed to be taken out of service way too early and despite an otherwise near perfect saftey record. I am sure that all that flew in this technoligical marvel did so not becuase it saved them 3 or 4 hours, but becuase they wanted to fly at 50, 000 feet at mach 2 in luxury and they could afford to do so. What is wrong with that! The lucky buggers! Garry H, South Carolina,RAF, 1987-2006. 🇺🇸
It's not woke. A couple of assholes run the planet now.
That's awesome that you had the chance to see such an amazing aircraft up close and personal.
The plane is too loud, apparently
@@yoshisquid3749 I think it was more to do with the fact that it couldn't really turn a proffit anymore due to high maintenance and fuel costs, Yoshi. Supersonic flight comercial will be back, soon, I am sure as a more cost effective and efficient aircraft is developed.
Me old man worked @ little Stoke Bristol Rolls Royce
On the Olympus engines. Was raised around plane's
Such a marvel of engineering and design, especially given the time it was built. It's a shame that we no longer have SST aircraft in the air anymore. Performance aside, Concorde is the most beautiful aircraft I have ever seen.
Behind all the controversy, there's some poetry in that plane, probably a testemony of his time, but what a plane! As an aviation lover, I would love to fly in it!
I seen one in person got to walk around it and wow !!! What an amazing aircraft!!! Pictures don't do any justice, what so ever. It was so beautiful that I could not get enough of it !
I flew on Concorde with my family in the early 1980's it was a fabulous experience which I will never forget, at that time they gave swag with each flight. I still have a leather note book I received. I was very sad when it was announced it was no longer going to fly, it honestly felt as though we were taking a step back instead of a step forward.
woah sir! you were so fortunate to have experienced that! could you elaborate more on it please? I'm a 17 year old aviation buff and i can't get enough of the concorde?
I feel so blessed to have flown British Airways Concorde. It was a flight I will never forget!!
Concorde was the finest and most brilliant aircraft in history.....so far; and you were so fortunate to have been consistently reminded of it's power and ingenuity.
Given the opportunity in rural Ontario Canada, I would have been happy to have Concorde rattle my stuff and junk at any time of the day or night.
I certainly miss her.
I remember learning that for a critical component, maybe it was just the the skin or maybe other structural elements as well, Aluminium/Aluminum is a good choice of material because it gets tougher & less prone to cracking the more it works. In WWII they had an alloy called Duraluminium.
The thermal cycles on the Concorde might even temper the alloy used, like AL2024 T3 or T6.
Aluminum or Aluminium, suppose it depend on which side of the pond one is :-)
When I flew on Concorde.. I remember flying at over 50,000 ft.. and although it was a hot and sunny day, if you looked upwards, you could see the blue sky becoming darker because we were flying that much more closer to the stratosphere and we could see the curvature of the earth.. It was an amazing sight.. Now I know for sure.. the earth is not flat.
It was round at the time, but has since flattened
@@luminography :) Indeed!
Wrong. My map clearly shows the world is flat and 2 dimensional.
Only propaganda and brainwashing convinces people the earth is round or 3 dimensional.
Tell that to flat earth society
Why oh why was such a truly gorgeous and cutting edge plane retired? That wing! Those incredible engines!
I used to have this on VCR tape. So nice someone has put it here! When the Concorde or SST took off from JFK, we used to hold our ears until we heard and felt the sonic boom. I never got to fly on it because it was way too expensive! It’s still my dream to fly on a B-29. I think there are like two left that are air worthy.
I saw Concorde coming in to land at Filton when i lived in Downend, Bristol. My grandfather worked on the control panels on Concorde at Rolls Royce or B.A.C as it was back then .
I used to have this on video. Thanks for helping me relive those memories.
Me too!!
I flew JFK-LHR on BOAA in 1999. An experience I will never forget.
Passing a B-747 30,000 feet below us and going backwards at 600Kts was quite a thrill as was being able to see the curvature of the earth while snacking on Champagne and caviar....
Visiting the cockpit for a nice techie chat with the guys was awesome too.
She is sadly missed by all who love aviation...
I had the joy of handling Concorde when it was still flying scheduled flights to/from Barbados. It was impossible not to be impressed. It was landing here barely before it took off in London. You could set your watch by it, and you felt, every time it came in, that you were watching a very special piece of aviation history.
To have its perfect safety record destroyed by a piece falling off a DC-10, which is one of the worst and most unsafe airliner ever made is truly ironic.
The DC-10 certainly had its share of teething problems that resulted in a number of high-profile tragedies, but once those were sorted it was operated quite safely for many years.
Tony T Sioux City happened in 1989 when the model was 17 years old because the supposedly redundant hydraulic lines were run so close together they were ruptured together when the rear engine suffered an un-contained failure. What engineering textbooks say about the proximity of deliberately redundant systems I do not know, but common sense says they should be spread out. But yes, eventually it became a reasonably safe airplane, it just got there the hard way.
Robin Sattahip That was an incident not attributable to "teething problems." Spreading out redundant systems certainly makes sense (which came into play during AA191), but once you get to the empennage you can only spread them out so much.
Nonetheless, when all was said and done, the DC-10 was operated for millions of flight hours per every fatal incident. Reasonably safe, for sure.
there was already an incident with structural damage to a concorde. but no one died so it was fine. the thing with pushing the limit is you have such a small safety envelope. if that thing had a bird strike, a cloud burst or any slight mishap and it would have crashed. but normal airlines can be modified and still be able to do its job. if you modify a concorde it can't do its very specific job anymore. it was an accident waiting to happen.
No actually, no aircraft should crash from a tyre burst. It was a design flaw in an otherwise brilliant aircraft.
I loved the Concorde, so graceful and majestic in flight. I could watch take offs and landings for hours. I was terribly sorry to see it cease operations. Hats off the the Brits and French, thumbs down to the irrational nut cases who fought it's entry into New York.
Absolutely agree. flying on it was an experience I will always treasure. The sky at that altitude is black...
Without New York Concorde would not have existed, you imbecile.
Irrational nutcases, I refer you to your own comment sir🤣
I love the Super Sonic Transport. The beauty of it's design alone is one that can not be matched. I'm proud my Father was able to contribute to the design of the SST, one of many plane designs he worked on. It's just too bad while in service it was beyond the average persons grasp to fly on.
Harold May, the father of Brian May of the band queen was an advanced engineer and draughtsman for the ministry of aviation. As well as designing and building his son's iconic guitar the "Red Special" he was part of the team that designed and built Concorde's landing gear. Unfortunately, he could not afford to fly on it, untill that is, his son became a millionnaire and flew him to the states to watch him perform a concert in NYC.
Concorde....The most beautiful aircraft ever built. Something us Brit's can be truly proud of.
except that it had a thing for blowing up...
cademade100 It wasn't the Concorde's fault to blow up, a Continental DC-10 left a piece of scrap metal on the runway while taxiing. When the Concorde was taking off the piece of metal ruptured the fuel tank and set it on fire.
FSS Square im not talking about the one incident. A lot of planes have had accidents that are caused by things other than pilot error or the plane itself. I meant that there were still a lot of crashes and incidents with the concord other than the final flight. saying it was bad because it hit scrap metal is like saying 757's and 767's are bad because they were hijacked on 9/11
cademade100
What accidents and/or crashes, other than Air France Flight 4590, did the Concorde have? I'd honestly like to know. The things that engineers and designers had to do to overcome the issues posed by supersonic travel are incredible. The Concorde was a testament to the power of human ingenuity. After the Space Shuttle, it is possibly one of the finest engineering achievements in human history. Personally, I find it to be a very, very visually appealing aircraft, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so it being physically attractive or not is completely subjective. What really matters here, however, is that it was an incredible feat of science and engineering. In light of it being widely regarded a marvel of engineering, I'd genuinely like to know what kind of ongoing issues it had.
Alberto Perez it would actually take me longer than I want to write a list of incidents that i found. I wasnt saying that it was a bad aircraft. I do realize what you have to come over to build an aircraft like that, but it still did have a lot of incidents. Obviously the FAA and people like that dont just scrap a plane from one incident. just look at american airlines flight 191 that crashed killing everyone on board and two people on the ground. Its engine fell of, and the FAA did ground dc10s for a period of time, but they werent scrapped. thats because it probably had a better history of incidents that the concorde. just search incidents.
When documentaries told you interesting things, no adverts. No repetition. No dramatic music. Great doc. 001 is in Duxford museum in the U.K. I’ve sat in it. Great to learn about her here. The US basically found a reason to stop flights over the country whilst they developed their own competition.
I saw the 747 land at Dulles in 1970 with two chase planes! I was 12 playing soccer I could not keep my mind on the game. It was the first 747 ever built. Incredible it was Feb. 1970 soccer was a winter sport in D.C. I'll never forget it, they are so common now, but was disappointed that coach was always still a sardine can - same with the A380. As more we go, the worse flying comfort is that's why I hope the 787 does well, at least the windows are bigger.
This makes me so proud and so sad.....it is sad that so many comments left on here are 'snipping' at each other USA versus UK......forget that and just think about the dedication and love put into this aircraft.
I used to take my small Grandson to Heathrow to see Concorde.....he is now grown,and an Aircraft engine designer.....I have loved planes since I was a little girl living near Manston Airport....and am now 70 years old...but still love them
excellent documentary!
Bring Back Concorde! #power!
Ruohong Zhao Bring back de havilland dragon rapide!
Ruohong Zhao I don't like the concord
+Ruohong Zhao Guys...I found the clarkson... =D
+Ruohong Zhao The tag should read European power and speed.
Rocka Craig HAHA, yup
Thank you to all the women and men who designed, built, and flown this magnificent plane. I miss her very much.
It was not banned at all. It was voluntarily taken out of service by the two airlines involved.
The Brits have always been excellent at building aircrafts. And their planes have always been beautiful. Such a pity they don't make them anymore.
So when Brits have always been excellent at building aircrafts why on earth they ended up producing wings for Airbus only, working for the French and Germans. Obviously there must be something wrong with their so called excellence ..
@@Coronado326
Why don't you tell us what you think is wrong? Oh, right, you just tell people they suck.
Europe should reboot the Concorde. Europe has always led the way in aviation. We can do it again. There is no reason why supersonic travel shouldn't be economically viable. We can reuse this beautiful airframe and refit it with modern technology.
twisterwiper The concorde flights never turned a profit, thats why they havent brought it back, all they did in making the concorde was lose money
+MPunk ThirtyEight (MPunk38) It was an old bird, thats certain. No matter how many improvements it got through the years, it was still an old bird. At least, as it seems, it has opened the doors for modern technology to develop a faster and more economical way to travel, hence the near space flights
No, it is not economical at all.
There is a reason why the SST program is dead and will never return.
When you look at the numbers, Concorde was a financial disaster for all parties. Yes,BA made a profit, but that was after the taxpayer absorbed the £2 billion bill.
The most gorgeous looking plane so far. Way ahead of it's time.
Remember watching this as a kid... great times!
Maybe one day some airplane factory will build it again, really miss it
This is amazing! I wish I could fly in it.
In case you're claustrophobic you wouldn't wish so. Room in the cabin is very limited.
@@Mark-st7mp
I have been in one!
Most bedrooms are a lot smaller and people stay there voluntarily lots longer EVERY night
@@touraneindanke
Don't confuse "Mark" with facts. He wants everybody to be as miserable as he is. That's right, i said it, Mr. Miserable Mark.
@@rudolphguarnacci197
Yeah and surely going “nowhere fast” 😘
Oh, the Concorde... it was such a beautiful, elegant, dream plane. My mother used to complain when it flew to Mexico City. So much noise!
Thanks for uploading, very intresting:-)
Anyone who moaned about Concorde were jealous because they could not afford to fly on her
Idk sonic booms waking me up in the middle of the night by shattering glass could be annoying too.
Although they could've probably solved that issue simply by limiting the Concorde to subsonic speeds until it passes through 35,000 ft.
@@Mommyandtux They did
Born in the late 90s here. Why would anyone complain about this marvelous machinery?? I'm so disappointed it's gone.
It was very cool to see 2 sunsets in one day.
You surely don't believe that do you?
Before anyone else posts silly things about how unsafe Concorde was, here are stats on aircraft losses by type. Enjoy!
Boeing 737- 73, Boeing 727- 50, Boeing DC9 - 44, Boeing 747 - 28, Embraer -Bandeirante - 28, Fokker F28 - 21, Boeing MD80/MD90 - 17, Boeing DC10 -15, Dornier 228- 11, Airbus A300 - 9, Airbus A310 - 9, Airbus A320/318/319/321 - 9, ATR 42/72 - 9, Boeing 757 - 7, BAe Jetstream - 7, Boeing 767- 6, BAe146/RJ100- 6, Embraer Brasilia- 6, Fokker 70/100- 5, Lockheed L1011- 5, Bombardier Dash 8- 4, Boeing MD11- 3, Canadair CRJ- 3, Saab 340- 3, Airbus A330- 2, Boeing 777-3,Airbus A340- 1, Concorde- 1, Dornier 328- 1, Embraer 170/190- 1
You are an idiot comparing apple with orange.
1500 747's flew 1000 times more miles in 45 years than 13 Concordes in 27 years..You are a clown ...One crash means 8 percent of the entire Concorde fleet..
Actually you are the one WHO should think twice before making such foolish comparisions ..Safety in Aviation is always measured in terms of number of aircraft airborne and accumulated total miles ..13 Concordes are jokes compared to some 8000 737's in the air.... One crash out of 13 Concordes İN operation make the Concorde most dangerous aircraft of all times.
Coronado326 That is not a relevant comparison. if there were 2 aircraft flying and one crashed would that mean a 50% loss rate? There is more than one way to assess aircraft relative safety.
Coronado326 Utter rubbish. Find something you actually know about and stop wasting everyone's time...
Complete Aerogeek Comparing stats is difficult given how few Concorde were operated and how few flight hours were accumulated relative to other types.
Number of flight hours per fatal accident is probably the most telling metric, but again Concorde didn't gather enough for legitimate comparison.
but yet, even though protests continued, Americans grew to love Concorde, for the true fact that regardless of who built it, it was a beautiful flying machine and amazed every man, woman and child who saw it no matter how many times they did see it. and when she was retired, it got big news, huge crowds and large public attention and was a devastating blow to the world.....and hence, got shipped over and stored at an American Museum as an icon of the best civil aircraft ever engineered..
Decades ahead of its time, like the SR-71 and XB-70, Concorde is a timeless classic
Oh, the irony! 49:00 they are complaining about the environment, and drives big 2,5 ton cars with 6 litres engines...
Wilbur Finnigan you sir are a total CLASS 1A ARROGANT BUTT HURT AMERICAN !! oh you have a smart arse answer to everything! eh? research your facts about concorde, the xb70 and concordski ...... THEN come back, and try again,
Robert Neil YUP.....I get a kick out of harrassing you dumb people, I like to "pull your chain" and get a reaction out of,you, to see what dumb shit you come up with. I Am bullheaded stubborn obnoxious smart and arrogant. I am also Irish/American, you got a problem with that???? You seem to perpetuate the thought that to have a brain you have to be a Brit/European, but the smart ones over there got the hell out and came to the USA when they could. So go tell someone that cares about your crap.....I DON"T......
Wilbur Finnigan Mr Finnigan - the description you have provide of yourself is that of a Troll. I hope this is not the case. I am happy to discuss aircraft technology but please avoid idiots spouting geopolitical nonsense. When someone belittles other country in favour of their own they open themselves yourself to being exposed as ignorant because anyone with any kind of historical knowledge or context can accurately criticise any country. we are all humans-none better than another. E.G If you are going to claim any greatness for the US you must also accept the responsibility for the GFC and the Iraq War so it cuts both ways.
Complete Aerogeek well said mate!!
You still continue to show your ignorance and stupidity by posting shit on you tube and when people comment on it you get all bent out of shape. It is what it is and you can't change it. You don't want negative comments stay off you tube. pretty simple, isn't it
Bring back the Concord .
I think that will happen in 2019!!!!!
It'll never happen.
still in flight pali.dudY.fruty.............
Bring back the letter 'e'!
Donnie White That would cost too much too bring back the old design. Hence why Airbus have started one planned to be brought into service in 2021...
Awesome plane in its time.Unfortunately for one accident in France,many other companies had numerous accidents by yet their planes went on to fly into history.I hope one day with today's modern technology and advanced avionics Concorde could be one of the worlds greatest supersonic airliners again.
Great video, loved watching it!
So how do you record the outside of Concorde at 50000 feet flying at mach 2?
With another concorde flying at mach 2
Or fighter jet.
What do you get if you combine Larry David and Woody Allen? This 49:28
Andrei haha
Andrei LMFAO, even the voice... Amazing.
Concorde..Sublimely Elegant, Simply the most Beautiful Aircraft ever created and gone way too soon.. I will never forget my flight aboard her. Truely a "life-long"memory....
Biggest failure in aviation history
Great upload. I really liked the vintage 1970s footage.
Its sad that I matured in a time long after the condorde, I would have loved to have taken the chance to fly at Mach 1 to Mach 2, Hopefully in my time, between 1992 to 2092, something will come out to replace the concorde
Thanks for uploading, it made me laugh at how bitter the US are about not being skilled enough to create something like this and throw their toys out of the pram lol. we don't need the noise or polution all sat in their V8 cars :-p
SR-71 Blackbird
+Maverick95 What that can carry 300 passengers?? what a knob
+Paul Marshall not but it can fly higher and faster than any plane
oh I forgot, the space shuttle
+Maverick95 wow, you missed the point, like most muricans
Great documentary love it,gone but not forgotten.thanks a lot!
The iconic supersonic commercial jet
Americans were very shaggy in the '70s.
PineKushDude Oh - kay!... Not too sure how the SR-71 Blackbird got connected with my original comment - seeing that this documentary is about the Concorde. Also, for the benefit of those who might've misunderstood my comment (re. Americans being shaggy in the 70's) I was referring to their haircuts. I'm going to back up really - really slowly here - without making any sudden movements - and I'm going to exit...
Neoplan80 And The Blackbird have been testing since Vietnam? Dont seem so "superior" to fly around in such old planes because you cant afford designing a replacement.
In this documentary, why didnt Boeing build the supersonic plane again at 21:50 ? Because the design was useless, wasnt it? The germans invented the jet-engine btw...
Wilbur Finnigan Actually the Concorde Was profitable for BA from the early '80s until its retirement. The XB70 was a prototype nothing more and would have been many times more expensive to operate if they ever did try to make it into an airliner so your comment is a bit silly. Time for a bit of research...
Wilbur Finnigan Frank Whittle patented the jet engine in 1930 and make the first working example in early 1937 The engine was gifted to GE who copied it and fitted it to the Bell XP-59. Many early US military aircraft (Air Force and navy) were fitted with Whittle engines. In fact as late at the Vought Corsair 2, the TF-41 engine used was an Allison licenced version of British engine...
PineKushDude In killing. Shut the fuck up.
You first world countries amaze me
+mbero akoko Where are you from dude?
+Doney Hon Nairobi Kenya , come visit, the weather is awesome
mbero akoko You are the first world dude!
+Doney Hon Naaah , far from it, but am happy to learn from them.
mbero akoko Wealth has many meanings. Money is not always the best aspect of this word. Think about it dude. ;)
All in all more than 1500 747's have been built since 1969..In the last 30 years an average of 1200 747's were airborne..This plane has changed the world,aviation,and brought continents closer.It was and still the work horse of ..many airlines like BA and Lufthansa.
I lived under the Concorde flight path. The take-off was certainly very noisy, but once Concorde was airborne it was no worse than any other jet. Every evening the boom rattled my front door as the aircraft went supersonic over the Bristol channel. It wasn't the least bothersome, and frankly it made me proud to be British.
I don't understand why the Governments were funding this. Shouldn't the private aircraft builders be funding it?
Eric Taylor you're american i imagine.
ec1888cfc
does that make my comment stupid? They built the Concord to make money. That should be done with ONLY private investments.
If the idea is sound the builders should have no trouble getting private investors to fund it. If the idea isn't sound then NO ONE should invest in it.
Eric Taylor never said it was stupid, it's just a view point typically held by those raised in america.
ec1888cfc
So you think the Government should spend money so corporations can make more money?
Eric Taylor and the corporations employ people and the government gets more tax, it's not a terrible thing to do, especially if it drives innovation.
If God is there and asked me for a wish then I will want concorde to fly again. A killed history. Can't Airbus supply spare parts and add fuel to fly concorde again. I always liked Airbus from Airbus A300 to A350. But in case of Concorde Airbus killed it. Please fly concorde again.
tiffys plane You are absolutely right. It's special, very special. My favourite airplane. I feel someone murdered Concorde. Whenever I see it I think it's crying and asking with us to fly again. I love Concorde.
tiffys plane What was the sad story behind the "maiden voyage"? The things under the wings are the engines.
Kanchan Jung Tiwari The Concorde program was never economical. Not the Airbus killed the Concorde it was the Boeing 707 and the 747 and the Internet. Winning time got less important if you had to pay about 10.000 Dollar for a ticket. Concorde is outdated like beautiful Steaming locomotives or horse coaches. In the time of the Internet it is not FAST enough for business decisions. And richer people chartered a Gulfstream 4 and didn't care if they are six hours in air while having a cabine for them.
The decision to terminate Concorde operation was not due the crash. The entire Concorde operation with a mere handful of aircraft was a very poor fit with the huge corporate operations of Air France and British Airways. That combined with the almost obscene amount of fuel used to transport 100 passengers across the Atlantic were major reasons. It was mainly a flag waving, national prestige operation. However, the crash would have doubtless been considered but only as a secondary consideration since its reasons were well understood
I was a Senior Flight Test Engineer on the Concorde flight test team at Fairford for the six years of its flight development programme.
Yes, I have seen the documentary and marvel at some of the comments:)
This is a high quality documentary, of its era.
Can't wait for the next one
Hey Nadine,
Found those blueprints for the German Concorde yet???? They're probably under the medicine chest containing your anti-psychotic medication... :)
Haha. Badgering someone else, I see.
beachcomber2008 Ahh Mr Beachcomber. I am simply correcting nonsense with verified supported facts. Much like I did in demolishing your silly comments.
Complete Aerogeek My silly comments were all right when YOU made them.
Which verified and supported facts tell you that Concorde was a successful plane that assisted Britain's aircraft industry?
Do you also have verified and supported facts concerning the failure of the Boeing 7 series? And the Airbus series?
What passenger plane does the present solely-British aircraft industry make?
beachcomber2008 What are you on about?
I have supplied verified facts that the aircraft was profitable in BA service from 1982 onwards.
The technology developed for Concorde went on to assist with future designs. It performed it's intended function for decades.
What are you babbling about regarding Boeing/Airbus? Concorde was never designed for mass transport in the same way as Ferraris are not designed to compete with Tatas. They have their own markets.
Complete Aerogeek The tech in Concorde may have gone on to help - fighter aircraft.
Well, round the circle we go again.
If the Concorde was profitable etc., etc., then why isn't it STILL doing business?
What happened to the British aircraft industry?
Well, you're never going to say so, so I will.
Its young work force had to change its industry, which virtually disappeared for two decades.
49:25 You should not have bought a house so close to the airport. Shut up and go home.
+DoctorBadVibez Areas around big airports should not be inhabited in 2 mile radius if you ask me. The noise is an inevitable evil, so ppl living nearby should get used to it or be funded in some way to enhance the soundproof on their windows.
Delfian gr
Exactly, but a 2 mile exclusion zone is going to be tough when land is so expensive. What's wrong with putting in an industrial park, or a shopping center?
+Eric Taylor
Totally agree with you but I meant it mostly for safety reasons, what if the triple7 of BA that landed due to engine failure at heathrow couldnt have made it to the runway treshold? And that with the cost of the land..paying so much money and then complaining about the noise..well....
She is still there prettiest lady i ever layered my eyes on.
In my dreams she often appears luckily.
bring this beast back with modern technology
NIXON.........!!!!!!!...I WANT AMERICA TO LEAD THE WORLD IN AIR TRANSPORTATION.....!!!!!!!!!......excuse me...PAL....?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....haven't seen it yet.....
I see it every time I fly a 737 or 777 or 747. perhaps you need to open your eyes. btw, the only thing French do better is make better French toast
+genie0390
Your bullshit and abuse is pissing me off big time. So you want to trade facts maybe?
* Boeing has lost out to Airbus aircraft for basically for 13 of the last 17 years in sales. Airlines think Airbus make better aircraft.
* 737? Current backlog of orders: 4392 737 vs 5583 A320.
* 777 / 767? 2444 777 / 767 delivered vs 2450 A300 / A310 / A330 / A340
* 747? Current backlog of orders: 20 747 vs 140 A380
You didn't mention the 787. I don't blame you its losing US taxpayers $ millions. But in fairness it has outsold the A350. Current backlog: 762 for A350 vs 779 for 787. But then the 787 did have an 11 year start....
Boeing exists on the back of huge overfunded US Military contracts courtesy of the US Taxpayer. Airbus does not. It just builds exceptionally good aircraft that the Airlines are buying in their thousands.
The WTO found that a) the US defence budget and NASA research grants could not be used as vehicles to subsidise the civilian aerospace industry and that b) Boeing must repay $5.3 billion of illegal subsidies. So who is cheating here then Smartarse?
1chish the Airbus system of relying on computers so heavy was designed to allow airlines to save money on pilot training which produced pilots unable to hand fly a jetliner when conditions demanded it. It sucks! AF447 crash made that point obvious.
What's this crap about illegal US military contracts? The military decides which jetliners best suit their needs, not the Europeans.
genie0390
I seperated this out as your attention span is clearly of the typically short American kind.
Quote:
"What's this crap about illegal US military contracts? The military decides which jetliners best suit their needs, not the Europeans"
Yes it does indeed and it actually DID so decide. Read and enjoy:
* The USAF selected the Airbus A330 MRTT aircraft as its new tanker. It did this after extensive tests to criteria agreed by all parties (including Boeing).
* Boeing's paid up US Senators didn't like this (even though the aircraft would be built in Alabama) and forced the USAF to cancel the contract.
* The new ITT laid out only the requirements that the 767 tanker had delivered earlier and left out all the others that the A330 had delivered in addition to those delivered by the 767.
* Airbus pulled out as it was a waste of time
* To date (8 years later) no Boeing KC-46 Pegasus tankers have been delivered.
* To date all 14 RAF A330 MRTT Voyager aircraft ordered at the same time have all been delivered on time.
* Boeing are now running years late, have big fuel line and electric issues and can't make wing pods work.
* Boeing are $ Billions over budget and will fail to meet the re-scheduled delivery dates next year.
* US taxpayers have been conned yet again by Boeing and the bought up lawmakers.
The KC-135 delivers 90 Te of fuel, KC-46 delivers some 95 Te of fuel (+6%) and the A330 delivers 111 Te (+23%). THAT is why the USAF decided they wanted the A330. Boeing and the bent Senators decided otherwise. Your loss.
Please do some actual research before posting nonsense. If you have actual information please post it. You know what they say about opinions...
The BA Concorde Division ran as a separate business unit and was profitable up until the massive traffic contraction after 9/11.
When the UK Govt. sold BA to the market for nearly 1BN the development costs became a non-issue. Unlike Boeing, who built their airliners on the back of massive government orders (read support/subsidy) Concorde has to earn its money the hard way an that it did. Any remaining costs were amortised over the life of the aircraft just like any other aircraft. (You can look at BA's annual reports from the period)
Here's a quote from Christopher Orlebar's Book on Concorde: Bear in mind that during the late 1970s and early 1980s, BA was a loss-making airline shedding staff and struggling to survive.
"During the first 6 years of operation, the fantastic Concorde lost money for British Airways. Losses were so bad, in 1982 BA’s boss Sir John King gave the responsibilities of the newly created Concorde division to Captain Brian Walpole and gave him two years to turn Concorde losses into profits. If he failed, BA would terminate operations, shutting down Concorde for good.
The Concorde team decided to do some market research. They asked businessmen how much they thought a Concorde ticket cost. The answer, “Most of them didn’t know. It was their secretaries or travel companies doing the bookings. When they were asked to guess, because they were senior, very important people, they all guessed that the fare was higher. ” - explained Captain Jock Lowe, Concorde resource & Planning Manager.
This insight led to a new pricing strategy. Captain Lowe described “So very simply, we said, we’ll charge them what they think they are paying. And so we put the fares up”. Concorde started making money. Lots of it. “We made about $500 million pounds in net, clear profit.”.
Actually, aerospace-grade aluminium alloys (AL2024, AL7075) have a material property, the more load cycles the tougher the aluminium becomes. The Concord stretching was most likely part of the design. Plane airframes "ages" each flight, Concords didn't fly much compared to other commercial planes, so their airframes stayed "young".
When I was a kid growing up in Long Island NY I remember my family lived right under the flight path of Kennedy Airport. You could just tell by the distinctive sound that the Concord was about to fly overhead. It was awesome to see and hear it. Too bad it's out of service now, I'd love to fly in it.
U could hear it all the way up on the shore when it took off especially at night. I know exactly the sound u are talking about
Let's close the debate:
Yes, Tu-144 is the result of the complete stealling of Concorde's plans.
Yes, on the paper, TU-144 was faster and larger.
Yes, last version of the TU-144 corected some of the following points, but never corrected them all.
BUT
TU-144 was poorly designed, especialy for maintenance.
TU-144 had a very limited range.
TU-144 required very long runways, because it originaly didn't have any efficient brakes, and was using parachutes.
TU-144 Test program was rushed, and uncomplete.
TU-144 Wings were faulty, and the aircraft was forced to land at very high speeds making the need of long runways more important.
TU-144 has a very shitty safety record, because of the previous points.
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That's all folks.
+Léo VanWillem BUT,all that counts is that TU-144(Concordski)is faster:)
+Nero It hit the ground faster and sooner. Face it mate, it was a crap copy
Silverhand290 copy?nope it was before,flew 2 months before concorde,and it was faster,i don't give a damn if the concorde was succesful,all that counts is that tu-144 is faster
+Nero it flew before concorde because the design was rushed specifically to beat concorde. It has been completely and totally established that the russians went to great lengths to steal the designs from concorde. Unfortunately for them (and countries like china now) just having the plans (often not totally complete) is not enough. You still need to have the manufacturing and materials science skills to back it up. Russia did not. They also took short cuts and history has shown the result. You need only look at the wing design to see that it was an inferior aircraft. The simple angled shape would be a cheaper and less efficient design than the elegant and very deliberate curves of the concorde. The forward canard wings are a also symptom of poor design.
slickstrings it was faster
Good, detailed documentary
My school was located right under the main runway at Roissy cdg, about 10 klicks from it. The CDG to JFK morning flight had all the classes stop talking for 30 seconds every morning at 1112 hour due to the enormous noise those engine made! Windows were vibrating like crazy! Awsome!
The first computer was made in the UK, ILS was a British Invention, autopilot was British invention. Manufacturing technics were lead by British firms. British aviation industry in the 2nd to 3rd largest in the world. BAe is massive in the USA
Awsome!! thank you so much for posting this hidden gem!! god bless concorde, i mis her at 5pm and 10pm every nite!
Thanks for this. 💓
I grew up under Concorde's flight path out of Filton, used to hit supersonic as it went overhead 😍 loud but awesome!
A brilliant aircraft that is sorely missed. At least we can appreciate them in museums! I always try to visit the ones they have at Yeovilton's Fleet Air Arm Museum and Filton's Museum whenever I am back in the UK for a visit! Incredible and very beautiful machines. Absolutely tragic that they stopped flying them
The best passenger airplane ever.
Really nice upload. Thanks.
Brave Men Indeed. True respect must be acknowledged.
I miss the concorde.I used to see it fly over every morning while working at an aerospace company on Long Island.
YET today, you cannot even find a passenger plane just flying at Mach one
I was serving at RNAS Yeovilton when 002 arrived - unfortunately it was very foggy and we saw little of the landing. However, for me I later had a tour of duty on station security, which allowed me to drive round the airfield in a landrover and visit, and drive under, Concorde, where it was parked. It was later moved the the FAA Museum where I have been aboard since. I also visited the flight deck on 001 at Duxford, on a less busy day - it is small...but beautiful
A great view. Some good footage there. Thumbs :)
Great interesting information of Supersonic Flying.
great clips of the tu crash.. great video
Boeing has produced 747s in the low thousands, while Concorde production numbered about 14 if memory serves. Just one crash by a Concorde, made it statistically, by the number produced, as the most dangerous commercial aircraft ever made. That's sad, because it wasn't the fault of the A/C or BAC/Sud Av. and it was a genuine marvel of engineering. It was a tremendous accomplishment and gave both the French and British fine justification to be proud and way ahead of its time.. .
“the hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy has THIS to say about breaking the sound barrier: . . . . “
Lucky to be in Toulouse last week for my job for Airbus,no pics aloud,caught a quick glimpse, but the french army kept one Concorde(painted military green+black)what for ...??Do not know,but my guess is that it could be,either spy or nuke delivery,or both,anyway,still stunned......!!!!!
51:25 this guy is a trooper i would give this guy a high five :)
The most beautiful passenger Air Plane. So sleek, it curves exotic.
You're correct regarding the alloying of AL,but I can't recall the elements added to make any of the specific alloys.Aerospace grade alloys (& commercial grade) can be in an annealed state, indicated as T0, or heat treated as indicated by T3, T5, T6, T531.Each of these indicate a specific controlled heat treating process to stress relieve then temper the alloy.If I recall correctly,the process doesn't rise above 250C(?),at which it looses tensile strength.Wonder how hot the Concorde got.
Never got to ride one of these. Boom better come in clutch.
It must be said that Concorde had the most unhappy first flights to New York. 73 to 78 were really bad years concerning fuel crisis and fuel prices and noise. I get the protests that surrounded the Concorde today more than in the day.
very good video, thanks!
Good film. Thank you.
The Concorde Airport "79 is the best Concorde disaster movie ever made. The jet they used for the exteriors is the one that crashed in Paris.
An aircraft much ahead of its time. Wish we had a team as dedicated as concord and the resources in this era.