He never told this story before Keefe D opened up about it. Interesting part is he believes Keefe D when he wants to and says Keefe is lying when he thinks Keefe does. If Zip had hosters for a weapon he could have easily told them to get that weapon. I believe Keefe D could be the shooter before Dre cause he gave it away when he responded to Mike Tyson. Btw Keefe D said he switched cars from the Van to the Cadillac. So I believe that Dre and T Brown were in the front and Keefe D said in the backseat. Why would the front seat be empty when Keefe joins them or why would they switch places?
His story changed twice if u count the biggie and Tupac dvd. And now he's defending puffy so idkwtf 😂 safer just to not trust anybody from New York lol
Here! Justice, we hope for now, keefe d is arrested. He and surge are the only living witnesses. Cold case gone hot, keefe d 🐀ed himself with book and chatting in interviews online. Rest in Power 2pac 🕊 🤍 🕊
@jarvisstephenson7039 keefe been saying since Circa 2000 that he was in the car. Netflix was 2018, so he must've said more for that to be the initial restarting of the case. Co conspirators, everyone saying Diddy, but I think they have a big surprise that nobody knows of as yet. They hint at some extra evidence that nm the police are tight-lipped about. Til court, that is.
*The one thing I didn't hear him mention was that Greg Kading needed Keefe D to say what he said, in order to get the city of Los Angeles off the hook for a $400 million wrongful death judgement, In the suit filed by Voletta Wallace* *I've been following and researching this case since I was 17 in 1996 when it happened, I've forgotten more about this case than most people know and I'll tell you exactly where the gun that was used to kill Pac came from...anyone who has seen the live performance Tupac did at the House of Blues a couple months before the shooting, would be interested to know that during that appearance at the HOB, Hussein Fatal had a .40 caliber Glock seized from him when he was searched by an off duty Santa Monica police officer who was working security for HOB* *That gun was retrieved from Santa Monica PD by the FBI, ran through ballistics and serial number checks,and determined to be clean...it was supposed to have been in an FBI evidence locker but somehow supposedly ended up in Orlando Anderson's possession less than a month later* *But the story of how they allegedly recovered the gun is classic, in the sense that only the government would come up with, and try to sell something like this to the public...when initially preparing to raid the house Orlando Anderson was believed to be staying at, the police showed up and supposedly found a giant killer pitbull walking around the yard with the gun in it's mouth!*
If you go from the beginning to the end you will find out these people aren't dead Tupac is Akil the MC Yaki Kadafi is Charlie tuna biggie is soup MCA from the Beastie Boys is DJ Newmark Eazy-E is Mark 7 they are all in the group Jurassic 5
@@distinctlydri2831 *And then they killed him inside the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department and "lost" the new evidence he was there to go over with them*
Lol, Gene Deal is a prime example of a guy who speaks on these subjects where he has no first hand direct involvement or knowledge of but gives his opinions based on what he “wants” the truth to be. And because he has a “perception” of someone who’s sincere, people think he’s speaking facts; he’s speaking what he wish were facts. He’s enjoying this attention.
@@Dobad415 man in a interview keefe d and another person on there said clearly that they were in and around the bay telling everyone they shot pac till he died
gene deal is speculating this is his opinion keep in mind hes been inconsistent in his stories before anything he been thorough with is the event leading up to biggies death because he was there . in gene deals mind he believes that greg kadings murder rap was and opinion piece that greg kading is a documentary maker speculating like nick Broomfield .Greg was LAPD he was tasked to investigate the murder of biggie because at the time .biggies mom was levying a wrongful death suit against the LAPD that would of had them going belly up .the case wasn't about going after puff in the actual documentary he explains that during the interview with Keefe d he tells him that if you lie about anything you'll be facing time . greg also breaks down how during the investigation he had to back up his claims out of fear of lawsuits .Ask yourself this if he was going after puff how come puff hasn't brought defamation lawsuits against greg kading ? because he knows if he did do that he would have to provide the receipts to prove that what greg kading investigated and found were false .it also would implement him in the murder investigation exposing the fact that he did in fact know things or was involved in some way shape or form . gene deal has gotten long in the tooth he also talks about how if your going to line someone up to be hit any time is the perfect time .what his small mind seems not to grasp is that if zip and Keefe went looking for pac n suge in say L.A to hit then the cops would of known right away about the plot .Zip said during that moment it was the perfect time to hit pac and suge because they literally were all in las Vegas at the same time it was lucky coincidence .zips from NYC whys he going to send a hit squad and exposing like that wait for your target to be close to you instead gene deal is just talking out of his ass at this point
Yeah but suge lied about Pac doing ok in the Hospital and talking or whatever. Pac father said something along the lines of Pac could not talk or not consciious. Pac`s step brother said Pac had tubes in his mouth, throat and nose and that he could not talk. Also Suge claimed he got shot but Pac`s photographer said he over heard the doctor saying that suge`s cut in his head came from glass or debris. So Suge is not really all that credible and may have set up Pac considering the fact that he most likely did not get shot but pac got riddled wit bullets, and they could have got somoeone with good aim to shoot Pac and any damage Suge took was just collateral damage.
@@PPHDocumentaries absolutely not!! Lol Suge wasnt behind shit. You think anyone would trust a goofy with a gun to kill someone right besides you in a tiny car lol. Even a good shot. Pac was shot with a 40. Pretty powerful gun alot more then a 9mil and they be a very good chance of bullets ripping right through Pacs skinny frame and then hitting Suge. So yeah I dont think so. He didnt have nothing to do with the hit.
Narrowing it down to 2 possible shooters gives enough closure in my opinion. With only one person from the car left alive, we're never guaranteed the truth now.
@@connoisseuroftigolbittsKadafi told Low MB that the driver looked just like him and Low MB looks just like Raphael Perez. I've always believed Kevin Gaines was the real shooter.
Dre was also dead at the time of Keffe’s proffer. So, why not blame it on him and not his very own nephew. Lando’s own Auntie called authorities and told them Lando did it.
@@cooljames74 maybe to give his cousin more notoriety especially cuz he was the one that got jumped. His street cred is in question if he wasn’t even the one to kill pac
@@eddietalley534 you can believe that. I don’t. Lando was the one who got jumped, so, Lando was the one that had the most motive to want to pull the trigger. Corey Edwards, Lando’s homie, even confessed that Lando wanted get back that night ASAP. Also, the situation Keffe got caught up in with his pcp ring, included multiple close family members. He had nothing to gain by not telling the truth. He was also lawyered up for that proffer. No attorney would advise his client under those circumstance to do anything but tell the truth.
@@eddietalley534 I liken it to him being more ignorant than anything. He should’ve understood or been told by his lawyers the stipulations of his proffer agreement. Instead, Keffe has now on several platforms, as well in a book he wrote, told the same story, which can now be used against him. I doubt anything will come of this tho.
Orlando is the only person Pac beat up that night, who else you think had more of a motive than Orlando? I knew it was him long before Keefe admitted it...that's the evidence.
Kadafi doesn't say he saw a big black arm. He says he saw a dark skinned arm. Orlando wasn't light skinned. Orlando couldn't pass the brown paper bag test.
Orlando’s arm can’t really reach far out of a window from over a big dude like Dre unless he was sitting in his lap, paired with the fact that would fuck up your aim shooting over a big nigga out of a backseat but also Orlando had a fucked up shoulder due to the fight earlier. Think about the physics, it was obviously big Dre. Nobody is riding on a kill mission if you ain’t down to kill especially being from a gang. The shit happened in a few seconds. They wasn’t in the backseat passing the heat around, think about it.
It did fuck his aim up through, the bullets are everywhere, Pac only died because he tried to stand up. The bullets 100% came from the back seat, from someone who couldn’t shoot properly.
Gene Deal should just stick to speaking on BIG’s murder. Anything he says about Tupac’s situation is pure speculation. Keefe D’s confession & story makes perfect sense.
@@Baldebana95people who was there say it was Orlando dummy gene don’t talk to nobody that was there when the shooting happened zip wasn’t there when the shooting happened so how do he know? Y’all slow as fuck
Gene right on this ….Keefe D said it was Orlando first , Kadafi said a big black arm, Keefe D also said Dre got cold feet and Orlando took the gun, so again Gene maybe right on , when he point out how Keefe D only said Orlando cause he was dead , and then only said Dre after Dre passed
Diddy payed that tab,think about it. How TF was he moving around in Cali during the beef? He payed crips for protection, supposably the people who hit Big was crips. Think about it.
@mouhamadoubalde4773 Let's play a game. If he died before 2012 you're a dumbass. If he died in 2012 like you said, then I'm a dumbass. Rules seem fair enough to you? OK, let the game begin!!!
WITNESSES say the shooter had a big arm 💪🏾... Orlando was a skinny guy with a broken collar bone making it scientifically IMPOSSIBLE for him to be the shooter... That leaves Keefe & Big Dre... 💯💯💯
I believe Orlando was the CAUSE & EFFECT of the shooting but in my humble opinion, I just don't see him being the shooter... We know the driver couldn't do it so that eliminates him... Only Keefe & Big Dre are left... Was Keefe D a big guy with a heavy arm back then...? I have no idea lol... Only ppl who knew him (or knew of him) back then would know... In my humble opinion I believe Keefe D said what he said in his proffer agreement to save his own butt and he himself could possibly be the shooter. In previous interviews Keefe D is quoted as saying "they (Orlando & Big Dre) were kids..." and went on further to specifically say that "Big Dre was a good kid and how he played football etc..."
@@datniggaeazye.5968 it's scientifically impossible to raise your arm leveled to your shoulder & fire a gun with a broken collar bone 🙄... Ask anybody who's ever experienced a collar bone injury...
@@ThurroAlexanderall this "cause and effect" nonsense makes me think your the police working with the government. Pac was followed by the Feds and the police since Birth.
luv gene and i believe gene, always have, but i'm gonna get me a sweatshirt that says "...and whatever like dat." he says it every time he tells a story 🤣🤣🤣
@@ALPHAOFSALESMaybe Suge said that out of a comparison. I don't know. But I don't believe everything that any man says. If that was the case there would be no such thing as jurors.
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsReal Suge was never quoted as saying that. Kodi said he said that. He said she said that they also said that they said that. We "heard" Suge say that Orlando wasn't the shooter.
Suge later said about Kody “No snitching now” Clearly angry that Kody had blabbed to the Source that Orlando killed Pac. Tray Dee says it’s Orlando too, and Suge told him straight after.
Honestly man it doesn’t even matter who pulled the trigger Orlando keefe or Dre because they all had the same intent that night to get Pac.. it’s just a shame suge and pac didn’t get out of Vegas asap after the fight also a Shame he chose not to wear his vest which probably would have saved him but things happen for a reason
That beef was personal. No way they gonna let Dre pull the trigger. My personal guess would be it could been Keefe D. "He got the message from his nephew being jumped, he exploded and went shot up the car." - would be my guess.
I won’t say that.. because the story goes, they gave it to Dre 1st.. but Orlando definitely did it. Gene is an idiot to say Zip didn’t carry a Zip for one. What Business man/Gangsta doesn’t carry a hammer, especially Von Zip, add to that, he’s in Vegas in 96. U really think the Gene knows huh?
@@habibhaick1690 i know. He said khadafi said that to him on ig live or interview. But im saying i remember as a kid and up until at least 2011 or 2012 it was always on file or etc that he allegedly saw someone light like him.
I’ve always thought Keefe D shot PAC 😂😂 what’s the best way to get out of a crime if EVERYONE ELSE is deceased ?! Also who watched the interview where they played what Mike Tyson said about the killer? Slow azz Keefe D said “he ain’t gone do nothing to me”. 😂😂😂😂
@@jrmccall1785lol. Maybe in a fantasy land. Fake fans still don't understand how disrespectful it is to Pac's legacy to think anyone would make him run and hide and not speak to his people. Smfh
I listened to some interview a while back with Greg kadin saying that Queefy D and them were on camera in a restaurant at the time of the shooting. I tried finding it again but can’t. I don’t remember which interview video it was though.
yep cading dangle it, then outted him to have that narrative go mainstream, hes tryna hide that corrupt lapd gang banging coppers were involved, cading is acting for top brass lapd so they can avoid the law suit that biggies mother was taking against the lapd
A new witness came out saying it wasn’t Orlando it was Big Dre he even explained how they was sitting in the car and how Orlando would’ve had to reach over him or shoot across him
@@michaelsayles33 Orlando could of easily reached over deandre to bust shots at pac. Keefe D said deandre was like nah, so orlando took the gun and did it instead. Either way, it was orlando or deandre who did it
Quite frankly, I can’t take any of them seriously. They’re all Bad Boy cohorts looking to save their own asses. For all we know Gene himself was well aware of the hit being put on Tupac over Hit EM UP and is lying about it.
The only issue I have with this is that BG Knockout said the whole hood knew that Baby Lane had did it when it happened. He said this on Vlad. So either Orlando really did it or they covered up for Dre since the night it happened. Maybe because Orlando was in the car he took credit for it. Who knows, but for sure Orlando was the alleged killer since it happened.
That’s only because Orlando was the victim. Orlando was never in that car. Orlando was alibi by the hospital. It’s public records now. That’s the real reason Orlando didn’t get charge. Keefe D and and Big Dre definitely was in that car and Big Dre was more than likely the shooter based on Kadafi telling his family and friends that the arm was a big black dark tone arm.
I still believe it's possible none of the people Keefe D named were in that car. Suge said Raphael Perez was behind it for Reggie Wright Jr and Sharitha Knight. Kadafi told Low MB that the driver looked just like him and Low MB looks like Raphael Perez not any one Keefe D named. I've always believed Kevin Gaines could have been the shooter. He was dating Sharitha Knight and was supposed to be on desk duty in California but got put on special assignment in Vegas when Tupac got shot. Suge said they were stalking tupac leaving the Tyson fight. Right when Tupac and Suge walk out of the Tyson fight you can see Raphael Perez behind them for just a second. Also an undercover cop working the gate at Suges house reported seeing a white or cream colored Cadillac following Suges entourage leaving Suges house going to club 662. Then the fact Reggie ordered security not to carry guns that night. Then Michael Moore refused not to carry his gun and Reggie took him off Tupac and sent him to Club 662. Where he heard a familiar security voice come over Reggie's radio say GOT EM then another white sounding voice call for radio silence. David Mack and Raphael Perez used walkie talkies when they robbed the bank.
Thank you for that. Everything you said is on the same channel of how I see it playing out. Those are the crucial details that are left out of the common narrative of Tupac's case.
Where was you when all this happened? Just funny to me how internet mfs know more than mfs who was there. Y'all believe what one person say but not the other
What a resource it is to have access to someone who not only has direct knowledge on the inner workings of law enforcement but who’s also not corrupt or deliberately putting out misinformation, to be able to tell us how shit goes down behind the scenes
Makes sense cause Dre was alive when keefe made the proffer agreement.. if he said Dre did it he would be snitchin and sending Dre to jail for the murder of Pac
One thing we can all agree on is Keefe D was in the car and Gene wasn’t, so anything he says is just speculation, but he speaking like he was in the car
💯 Right, there no way Orlando did the shooting at Tupac 96'LVas his aim won't be highly accurate aim sloppy aim at that after beat down get jump from group of people. If that was really true Tupac will have been alive about now.
0:25 it cracks me up sometimes when I see the "most replayed" parts of some videos. I understand 1000% why that's the most replayed part. I had to replay it myself.
@@kevonsidek9737 Wouldn't Big dre make most sense? He was sitting on the left in the back. perfect aim towards the target. Keefe put it on Orlando because he was the only 1 from all 4 in the car who was dead at that point. Quite a few people i have seen do interviews have said it was not Orlando.
IF it is actually those guys who did it .. Does not matter who “pulled” the trigger .. they were all in the car .. they ALL Did IT 😔
The intent to murder is more than enough to prosecute
They just helped. The bigger ideal is that the government knew
that's why they pressing Keefe now
💯
THANK YOU....These niggas weird
One thing about Gene Deal is that his story has Stayed the same from the beginning
He never told this story before Keefe D opened up about it. Interesting part is he believes Keefe D when he wants to and says Keefe is lying when he thinks Keefe does. If Zip had hosters for a weapon he could have easily told them to get that weapon. I believe Keefe D could be the shooter before Dre cause he gave it away when he responded to Mike Tyson. Btw Keefe D said he switched cars from the Van to the Cadillac. So I believe that Dre and T Brown were in the front and Keefe D said in the backseat. Why would the front seat be empty when Keefe joins them or why would they switch places?
@@Muslera_81 cos hes a boss and he gets the front seat .
Shhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttttttt😂
He story changed about seeing the million dollar check.
His story changed twice if u count the biggie and Tupac dvd. And now he's defending puffy so idkwtf 😂 safer just to not trust anybody from New York lol
It’s easy to say the same story when you telling the TRUTH!
A good liar sticks to their story
Ima be real you definitely right!
not true...liars slip up @@user-xd9wd6kg8i
@@dobynebirminghamal205delete your comment
Yet it’s now proven that he lying
"Was that us?" - Puffy afterwards before paying Von Zip.
Who’s back after keefe D got arrested for the murder
😂the same moment i saw it i went on youtube
We here lol
Same 😂😂😂
I’m here😂😂😂😂😂
Shit crazy af
Who’s here after Keefe got arrested? I knew Genes story alwayssss sounded the most authentic
Here! Justice, we hope for now, keefe d is arrested.
He and surge are the only living witnesses.
Cold case gone hot, keefe d 🐀ed himself with book and chatting in interviews online.
Rest in Power 2pac 🕊 🤍 🕊
Hell yeah
Yet Keefe D getting arrested prove Gene Deal don’t know what the hell he talking bout
@jarvisstephenson7039 keefe been saying since Circa 2000 that he was in the car. Netflix was 2018, so he must've said more for that to be the initial restarting of the case.
Co conspirators, everyone saying Diddy, but I think they have a big surprise that nobody knows of as yet.
They hint at some extra evidence that nm the police are tight-lipped about. Til court, that is.
Lmao what! That literally proves gene has been wrong for 30 years
If keefe is lying then he lied himself directly into a jail cell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gene speaking the real Deal
Gene Deal is a known liar
Them Boyz killed a body double that's why no one been arrested
He lyin
Gene wasnt even in Vegas so how is that thorough?
How,he wasn’t there
I love when the OG’s have there own catch phrase. Gene to smooth with the “you understand” lol
The “you understand what I’m saying” is even smoother
Fr😂😂
St. Louis Standup!!! Naw the " you understand " is short and terse. I would go with " comprehend, comprende, or you dig!!!
That’s Harlem talk
Keefe d over here like "DAAAYUM"
All keefe d says is “you know what I’m sayin”
*The one thing I didn't hear him mention was that Greg Kading needed Keefe D to say what he said, in order to get the city of Los Angeles off the hook for a $400 million wrongful death judgement, In the suit filed by Voletta Wallace*
*I've been following and researching this case since I was 17 in 1996 when it happened, I've forgotten more about this case than most people know and I'll tell you exactly where the gun that was used to kill Pac came from...anyone who has seen the live performance Tupac did at the House of Blues a couple months before the shooting, would be interested to know that during that appearance at the HOB, Hussein Fatal had a .40 caliber Glock seized from him when he was searched by an off duty Santa Monica police officer who was working security for HOB*
*That gun was retrieved from Santa Monica PD by the FBI, ran through ballistics and serial number checks,and determined to be clean...it was supposed to have been in an FBI evidence locker but somehow supposedly ended up in Orlando Anderson's possession less than a month later*
*But the story of how they allegedly recovered the gun is classic, in the sense that only the government would come up with, and try to sell something like this to the public...when initially preparing to raid the house Orlando Anderson was believed to be staying at, the police showed up and supposedly found a giant killer pitbull walking around the yard with the gun in it's mouth!*
SHUTUP chatting crap
If you go from the beginning to the end you will find out these people aren't dead Tupac is Akil the MC Yaki Kadafi is Charlie tuna biggie is soup MCA from the Beastie Boys is DJ Newmark Eazy-E is Mark 7 they are all in the group Jurassic 5
@@tonydiesel3444 *And if you go back to the beginning you'll see you need to quit smokin that shit!*
Poole solved the Biggie murder. Kading made a whole second career off discrediting him.
@@distinctlydri2831 *And then they killed him inside the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department and "lost" the new evidence he was there to go over with them*
Doesn’t mean he didn’t get the gun from one of his boys
Lol, Gene Deal is a prime example of a guy who speaks on these subjects where he has no first hand direct involvement or knowledge of but gives his opinions based on what he “wants” the truth to be. And because he has a “perception” of someone who’s sincere, people think he’s speaking facts; he’s speaking what he wish were facts. He’s enjoying this attention.
I'm not alone u see through the bull 💩 too
@@antoniomcnair5189 Mind you, I don’t mean this as a slight to the man… But he be speaking his truth because he believes his truth. 😂
@@LiquidScorpionso you feel that about Gene? Do you feel that way about Reggie also????
@@MrTmills32 Yes
@@MrTmills32yea dumbo, what do you think?
It's alot of people from the bay that says Orlando bragged about it until pac died but the same has been said about Dre bragging he was there
The bay? What do we have to do with Compton Crips bro
@@Dobad415 man in a interview keefe d and another person on there said clearly that they were in and around the bay telling everyone they shot pac till he died
In the county OA put in on ss he ain’t kill Tupac
@@Kitkatt949 you do you I got me
@@dannydavis5550the bay?? Cuhz you're automatically disqualified from this conversation 😂
There were 4 dudes in that car I say 🖕🏾all 4 em
💯
Keefe D telling the truth
even when he lie❗🤣
He telling on Puff no doubt about it
@@K.Sovereignson #peace yea he leaving NOTHING on the plate🎯
Puff killed pac but keefe D killed biggie
Right
Crazy Tupac was soo beloved by everyone, but y’all let Keefe slide all these years..
Lies. He was not and nobody is loved by everyone.
Keefe was a shot caller and was with the business too
Killing Keefe D wouldn’t bring PAC back, show a little bit of maturity
Tupac physically assaulted Anderson so what do u expect from a gangster?? Hmmm
He k!lled himself
This time, me and Gene believe the same 🙏
Gene doesn't have to lie,, Reggie does for all sorts of snidey little reasons!
gene deal is speculating this is his opinion keep in mind hes been inconsistent in his stories before anything he been thorough with is the event leading up to biggies death because he was there . in gene deals mind he believes that greg kadings murder rap was and opinion piece that greg kading is a documentary maker speculating like nick Broomfield .Greg was LAPD he was tasked to investigate the murder of biggie because at the time .biggies mom was levying a wrongful death suit against the LAPD that would of had them going belly up .the case wasn't about going after puff in the actual documentary he explains that during the interview with Keefe d he tells him that if you lie about anything you'll be facing time . greg also breaks down how during the investigation he had to back up his claims out of fear of lawsuits .Ask yourself this if he was going after puff how come puff hasn't brought defamation lawsuits against greg kading ? because he knows if he did do that he would have to provide the receipts to prove that what greg kading investigated and found were false .it also would implement him in the murder investigation exposing the fact that he did in fact know things or was involved in some way shape or form . gene deal has gotten long in the tooth he also talks about how if your going to line someone up to be hit any time is the perfect time .what his small mind seems not to grasp is that if zip and Keefe went looking for pac n suge in say L.A to hit then the cops would of known right away about the plot .Zip said during that moment it was the perfect time to hit pac and suge because they literally were all in las Vegas at the same time it was lucky coincidence .zips from NYC whys he going to send a hit squad and exposing like that wait for your target to be close to you instead gene deal is just talking out of his ass at this point
@@mattmeadon9038 if Gene doesn't have to lie... then why does he? nigga change his story so many times its not even funny.
Yet it now proven that he was lying
@@jarvisstephenson7039 Why" was he lyin"?
Mans jus gets paid to tell this story over n over again. This story payin all his bills. Right on brotha ✊🏿
There was once videos on YT showing 2 BMWs that night. Can't find them now.
Finally got someone arrested after almost thirty years.
Suge still alive, I’m Pretty sure he could put this to rest by telling us, Keefe said he looked Suge right in the eye before the shots rang out.
Suge said Orlando didn't do it
Suge said Raphael Perez was behind it for Reggie Wright Jr and Sharitha Knight. He said Orlando wasn't the shooter
Yeah but suge lied about Pac doing ok in the Hospital and talking or whatever. Pac father said something along the lines of Pac could not talk or not consciious. Pac`s step brother said Pac had tubes in his mouth, throat and nose and that he could not talk. Also Suge claimed he got shot but Pac`s photographer said he over heard the doctor saying that suge`s cut in his head came from glass or debris. So Suge is not really all that credible and may have set up Pac considering the fact that he most likely did not get shot but pac got riddled wit bullets, and they could have got somoeone with good aim to shoot Pac and any damage Suge took was just collateral damage.
Suge also said he would nor tell who murdered 2pac .
@@PPHDocumentaries absolutely not!! Lol Suge wasnt behind shit. You think anyone would trust a goofy with a gun to kill someone right besides you in a tiny car lol. Even a good shot. Pac was shot with a 40. Pretty powerful gun alot more then a 9mil and they be a very good chance of bullets ripping right through Pacs skinny frame and then hitting Suge. So yeah I dont think so. He didnt have nothing to do with the hit.
How TF would gene deal know!? HE WOULDNT, this man just loves to hear himself talk.
At last someone wud sense
Art asked him his opinion and he gave it…what’s the problem? Stfu
He just running his mouth fr
Narrowing it down to 2 possible shooters gives enough closure in my opinion. With only one person from the car left alive, we're never guaranteed the truth now.
Hahahaha a man u noobs , this info is not new
It was one of the two in the back seat
If the feds want they could charge Keefe D in that murder.
I bet Kevin Gaines was in that Cadillac
@@connoisseuroftigolbittsKadafi told Low MB that the driver looked just like him and Low MB looks just like Raphael Perez. I've always believed Kevin Gaines was the real shooter.
“Rap snitches, tellin all their business, go to court and be their own star witness, do you see the perpetrator?, yea I’m right here!!!”
RIP DOOM 💯💯💯
I definitely see his point like why would keefe say Dre did it when he was still alive at the time, it’s much easier to pin it on a dead man.
Dre was also dead at the time of Keffe’s proffer. So, why not blame it on him and not his very own nephew. Lando’s own Auntie called authorities and told them Lando did it.
@@cooljames74 maybe to give his cousin more notoriety especially cuz he was the one that got jumped. His street cred is in question if he wasn’t even the one to kill pac
@@eddietalley534 you can believe that. I don’t. Lando was the one who got jumped, so, Lando was the one that had the most motive to want to pull the trigger. Corey Edwards, Lando’s homie, even confessed that Lando wanted get back that night ASAP.
Also, the situation Keffe got caught up in with his pcp ring, included multiple close family members. He had nothing to gain by not telling the truth. He was also lawyered up for that proffer. No attorney would advise his client under those circumstance to do anything but tell the truth.
@@cooljames74 well obviously he lying about something if the police on his ass again but I guess we’ll never know for sure 🤷🏿♂️
@@eddietalley534 I liken it to him being more ignorant than anything. He should’ve understood or been told by his lawyers the stipulations of his proffer agreement. Instead, Keffe has now on several platforms, as well in a book he wrote, told the same story, which can now be used against him.
I doubt anything will come of this tho.
Gene must be a Juvenile fan. Every time he says You Understand, I think about that song.
I still don't understand how Orlando Anderson can be blamed for a murder with no evidence or testimony?
Ummmmmmm his uncle told on him. Of all the four people in the car who was the one who got beat down? This ain’t rocket science
@@charlessmallins7926it’s easy to snitch on the dead guy
Orlando is the only person Pac beat up that night, who else you think had more of a motive than Orlando? I knew it was him long before Keefe admitted it...that's the evidence.
I guess they going to dig him and have him stand trial probably using technology to see if they can get answers out of him
@@connoisseuroftigolbittsI reckon it was keffe
Keefe D has been arrested!!!!!
Kadafi doesn't say he saw a big black arm. He says he saw a dark skinned arm. Orlando wasn't light skinned. Orlando couldn't pass the brown paper bag test.
He said black arm and it’s night time 🤦🏽♂️ stuff happens quick he don’t know I believe mob James Reggie wright people from Compton
Orlando’s arm can’t really reach far out of a window from over a big dude like Dre unless he was sitting in his lap, paired with the fact that would fuck up your aim shooting over a big nigga out of a backseat but also Orlando had a fucked up shoulder due to the fight earlier. Think about the physics, it was obviously big Dre. Nobody is riding on a kill mission if you ain’t down to kill especially being from a gang. The shit happened in a few seconds. They wasn’t in the backseat passing the heat around, think about it.
@@PsyFiChannelonly one way to find out! Dig Orlando up and measure his arm!
It did fuck his aim up through, the bullets are everywhere, Pac only died because he tried to stand up. The bullets 100% came from the back seat, from someone who couldn’t shoot properly.
He makes a good point who he put it on
This is a VALUABLE LESSON on how powerful...your WORD IS..on this Earth 😮 😅 😂
Gene Deal should just stick to speaking on BIG’s murder. Anything he says about Tupac’s situation is pure speculation. Keefe D’s confession & story makes perfect sense.
He got witness and you don't
@@Baldebana95people who was there say it was Orlando dummy gene don’t talk to nobody that was there when the shooting happened zip wasn’t there when the shooting happened so how do he know? Y’all slow as fuck
No that's what you want people to think stay with your own opinion
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsRealbro yu CZcams gangster
Dre never bitch out
He doesn't even know about Biggies murder
Gene deal switching up real fast
I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about, he wasn’t there
How would you know what he's been around?
Gene right on this ….Keefe D said it was Orlando first , Kadafi said a big black arm, Keefe D also said Dre got cold feet and Orlando took the gun, so again Gene maybe right on , when he point out how Keefe D only said Orlando cause he was dead , and then only said Dre after Dre passed
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@@ijumpjudy tyrone makes u feel hot all over when he lay yo ass on that closet floor lmaoo
@@ijumpjudygailen 🛑 it
@@ijumpjudydamn man keep hating under every video they post, what a sad life that must be...
He can't say Dre because the feds will charge him for lying he gotta Stickney Orlando
I doesn't matter who pulled the trigger or who supplied the gun, but the man who payed for it....thats who we want next , RIP PAC, God dont sleep 🙏
Exactly who ordered the hit
Tupac is akilmc alive n well in the group jurassic 5
@@ogeobidiegwuhit? Wtf how?
Payed for it? What ? When?
Diddy payed that tab,think about it. How TF was he moving around in Cali during the beef? He payed crips for protection, supposably the people who hit Big was crips. Think about it.
Im starting to think that Gene doesn't know when Dre died or when Keefe made his deal
Him and all the people in the comments swear dudes don’t know shit
@mouhamadoubalde4773 Let's play a game. If he died before 2012 you're a dumbass. If he died in 2012 like you said, then I'm a dumbass. Rules seem fair enough to you? OK, let the game begin!!!
@@Baldebana95 lies dre died in 04. The other dude died in 2015. Nobody in that car died in 2012. Stop speaking on stuff you know nothing about
Dre died in 2004. He has it mixed up.
@@moneyfiendcam4693dre never bitch out
Go study and stfu
How Big Gene know he wasn’t there.,😂😂
Big Gene is 100% correct in this short video.
Gene: Am I right
Art: ….
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Yes we need more of this content from him
He trying to save puffy now. Gene a funny dude. Puff musta sent him the bag
How
Cuz puffy sent zip
@@donaldlawrance2982All This are speculation
I'm glad someone else sees this..puffy threw him a few dollars
He not saving puffy lmao. He said Biggies death was In-House. and that Kim Porter was killed "allegedly". Puff aint pay bro shit.
He’s wrong about the dates. Keefe D did the proffer agreement in 2009. Dre died in 2004. Both Orlando and Dre were dead when he made the deal.
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@@makaveli7165 Keefe didn’t say Orlando bc he was the only one dead. That’s just not true.
Keefe saying Orlando did it bc they jumped him, just to try in make the shooting justifiable
I think he made it in 2008
The FBI interviewed Keffe D in 99 , and he said they already knew who was in the car and exactly where they were sitting. Genes story lines up .
I hope Gene talks about the “check” he allegedly saw as the payout for this
He's changed his story on that
He dancing about that now
He said the check was for something else. Not the tupac hit
Gene Deal makes up stories. And how can he definitively know whether Keefe D is lying about the shooter? He wasn’t there!
He is just yapping 😂 next one is , it doesn't matter if your gun is in your hand once the advantage in in the shooter hands who is shooting at you.
WITNESSES say the shooter had a big arm 💪🏾... Orlando was a skinny guy with a broken collar bone making it scientifically IMPOSSIBLE for him to be the shooter... That leaves Keefe & Big Dre... 💯💯💯
it's not scientifically impossible to shoot a gun with a broken collarbone lol
I believe Orlando was the CAUSE & EFFECT of the shooting but in my humble opinion, I just don't see him being the shooter... We know the driver couldn't do it so that eliminates him... Only Keefe & Big Dre are left...
Was Keefe D a big guy with a heavy arm back then...? I have no idea lol... Only ppl who knew him (or knew of him) back then would know...
In my humble opinion I believe Keefe D said what he said in his proffer agreement to save his own butt and he himself could possibly be the shooter. In previous interviews Keefe D is quoted as saying "they (Orlando & Big Dre) were kids..." and went on further to specifically say that "Big Dre was a good kid and how he played football etc..."
It was either Dre or Orlando… either way we know it came from keefe d’s rental white Cadillac
@@datniggaeazye.5968 it's scientifically impossible to raise your arm leveled to your shoulder & fire a gun with a broken collar bone 🙄... Ask anybody who's ever experienced a collar bone injury...
@@ThurroAlexanderall this "cause and effect" nonsense makes me think your the police working with the government.
Pac was followed by the Feds and the police since Birth.
Wish I could see Reggie’s face as he’s watching this 😂
Haha we will get a reply soon
Reggie probably agrees
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@@joeyvillarreal761 Reggie and Suge knows what happened
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Reggie RN
luv gene and i believe gene, always have, but i'm gonna get me a sweatshirt that says "...and whatever like dat." he says it every time he tells a story 🤣🤣🤣
Tell him to listen to the security guard Frank
I believe Suge when he said Orlando wasn't the shooter.
Do you also believe when Suge said Orlando was a good kid? 😂😂
Suge said it was Orlando when he was jail to kody it’s in his book 🤦🏽♂️
@@ALPHAOFSALESMaybe Suge said that out of a comparison. I don't know. But I don't believe everything that any man says. If that was the case there would be no such thing as jurors.
@@ProofThatAstrologyIsReal Suge was never quoted as saying that. Kodi said he said that. He said she said that they also said that they said that. We "heard" Suge say that Orlando wasn't the shooter.
Suge later said about Kody “No snitching now”
Clearly angry that Kody had blabbed to the Source that Orlando killed Pac. Tray Dee says it’s Orlando too, and Suge told him straight after.
Gene Deal talking real Facts 💯 we know thats how it went down and who did it but hes the only one willing to come out and say it.
No, he is not. He is talking carrier. Art is speaking of "provider." There is a difference.
Honestly man it doesn’t even matter who pulled the trigger Orlando keefe or Dre because they all had the same intent that night to get Pac.. it’s just a shame suge and pac didn’t get out of Vegas asap after the fight also a Shame he chose not to wear his vest which probably would have saved him but things happen for a reason
😂😂😂 it never happened its all lies makaveli is alive
the whole security dragged their feet the moment I found out about fight I would of sent pac and suge home to L.A that night reggie dropped the ball
Suge and Reggie was apart of the hit.
@@htatesil4192I wish this were true, so many phonies would be out the rap game and the political game honestly
Suge Knight was part of the set up your fool. Neither Dray or Orlando Anderson were there.
Keep spitting Gene we’re listening!🔥
That beef was personal. No way they gonna let Dre pull the trigger. My personal guess would be it could been Keefe D.
"He got the message from his nephew being jumped, he exploded and went shot up the car." - would be my guess.
I won’t say that.. because the story goes, they gave it to Dre 1st.. but Orlando definitely did it. Gene is an idiot to say Zip didn’t carry a Zip for one. What Business man/Gangsta doesn’t carry a hammer, especially Von Zip, add to that, he’s in Vegas in 96. U really think the Gene knows huh?
You got it right
Khadafi allegedly said light like him,napolean said big black arm. Idk which is which
Napoleon wasn't there
@@habibhaick1690napoleon is not khadafi
@@habibhaick1690 i know. He said khadafi said that to him on ig live or interview. But im saying i remember as a kid and up until at least 2011 or 2012 it was always on file or etc that he allegedly saw someone light like him.
@@DMVLivinn Napoleon was not there,Napoleon and young Noble was left at home
EDI said big black arm, Kadafi said the driver was his complexion
I’ve always thought Keefe D shot PAC 😂😂 what’s the best way to get out of a crime if EVERYONE ELSE is deceased ?! Also who watched the interview where they played what Mike Tyson said about the killer? Slow azz Keefe D said “he ain’t gone do nothing to me”. 😂😂😂😂
@@ijumpjudy it's funny that was a body double they shot
@@ijumpjudy truth the truth that y no one been arrested can't be a murder if it never happened
@@ijumpjudy all staged
@@jrmccall1785 it was Devon Clark who got shot. Tupac's body double
@@jrmccall1785lol. Maybe in a fantasy land. Fake fans still don't understand how disrespectful it is to Pac's legacy to think anyone would make him run and hide and not speak to his people. Smfh
I listened to some interview a while back with Greg kadin saying that Queefy D and them were on camera in a restaurant at the time of the shooting. I tried finding it again but can’t. I don’t remember which interview video it was though.
This is what I’ve been saying. If i were looking at a life sentence i would have said the same thing keefe dee said to become a free man
yep cading dangle it, then outted him to have that narrative go mainstream, hes tryna hide that corrupt lapd gang banging coppers were involved, cading is acting for top brass lapd so they can avoid the law suit that biggies mother was taking against the lapd
This aged well
Dre was bragging about it? I didnt hear that till now
7 Day Theory=Confusion 🤔
More people need to investigate
The 7 day Theory with a open mind
Makes perfect sense. I believe gene bro
It makes perfect sense that the guy who got jumped who was a known shooter did it. Not something a man who wasn’t even there said
It was orlando anderson bruh. DeAndre smith was too scared to do it, so orlando took the gun and did it. What's up with all these conspiracy theories?
A new witness came out saying it wasn’t Orlando it was Big Dre he even explained how they was sitting in the car and how Orlando would’ve had to reach over him or shoot across him
@@michaelsayles33 Orlando could of easily reached over deandre to bust shots at pac. Keefe D said deandre was like nah, so orlando took the gun and did it instead. Either way, it was orlando or deandre who did it
@@ChakraOver9k case gonna be crazy
Lol man you never shot a gun before huh dummy, this isn’t a cartoon bro geese you’re fucking dumb.
Yeah ok lol just like jfk and mlk right? lol keffie d is a pawn
I’m confused. Didn’t Gene say he saw the million dollar check that puff wrote in Zip’s hands ?
Tbf, in this video, he's only saying that the gun handoff was fabricated, not that Von ZIp had not connection to it all.
Gene just talking he don't have no facts
Puff paying gene now lol
and he got arrested today lol
"Anytime is the right time," sad Truth.
Quite frankly, I can’t take any of them seriously. They’re all Bad Boy cohorts looking to save their own asses. For all we know Gene himself was well aware of the hit being put on Tupac over Hit EM UP and is lying about it.
Thank you and he is clearly spinning the narrative
He is just there to make confusion just like a FBI informat would do.
The only issue I have with this is that BG Knockout said the whole hood knew that Baby Lane had did it when it happened. He said this on Vlad. So either Orlando really did it or they covered up for Dre since the night it happened. Maybe because Orlando was in the car he took credit for it. Who knows, but for sure Orlando was the alleged killer since it happened.
Orlando was never even in the car he went to the hospital with a dislocated shoulder.
The “whole hood” wasn’t there… And I don’t think Orlando ever took credit for it. Orlando wasn’t named as Tupac’s killer until he passed, via Keefe D
That’s only because Orlando was the victim. Orlando was never in that car. Orlando was alibi by the hospital. It’s public records now. That’s the real reason Orlando didn’t get charge. Keefe D and and Big Dre definitely was in that car and Big Dre was more than likely the shooter based on Kadafi telling his family and friends that the arm was a big black dark tone arm.
Government helped. Orlando woulda been dead if he did it same for keefe D
@@youaintnocopjreed2860 Keefe D was "In Too Deep"
If he lied about Orlando, he could be charged if they revoke his proffer.*
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iii love gene's interview's...
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Keefe D admitted to passing the gun to the “Person” in the backseat. He should be charged
Keefe D was in the car with Suge and 2Pac.
@@kylenewsome8439😂
I still believe it's possible none of the people Keefe D named were in that car. Suge said Raphael Perez was behind it for Reggie Wright Jr and Sharitha Knight. Kadafi told Low MB that the driver looked just like him and Low MB looks like Raphael Perez not any one Keefe D named. I've always believed Kevin Gaines could have been the shooter. He was dating Sharitha Knight and was supposed to be on desk duty in California but got put on special assignment in Vegas when Tupac got shot. Suge said they were stalking tupac leaving the Tyson fight. Right when Tupac and Suge walk out of the Tyson fight you can see Raphael Perez behind them for just a second. Also an undercover cop working the gate at Suges house reported seeing a white or cream colored Cadillac following Suges entourage leaving Suges house going to club 662. Then the fact Reggie ordered security not to carry guns that night. Then Michael Moore refused not to carry his gun and Reggie took him off Tupac and sent him to Club 662. Where he heard a familiar security voice come over Reggie's radio say GOT EM then another white sounding voice call for radio silence. David Mack and Raphael Perez used walkie talkies when they robbed the bank.
Dammit Jackson you cracked the case…
Thank you for that. Everything you said is on the same channel of how I see it playing out. Those are the crucial details that are left out of the common narrative of Tupac's case.
Where was you when all this happened? Just funny to me how internet mfs know more than mfs who was there. Y'all believe what one person say but not the other
why would they want pac dead?
What a resource it is to have access to someone who not only has direct knowledge on the inner workings of law enforcement but who’s also not corrupt or deliberately putting out misinformation, to be able to tell us how shit goes down behind the scenes
Makes sense cause Dre was alive when keefe made the proffer agreement.. if he said Dre did it he would be snitchin and sending Dre to jail for the murder of Pac
Dre was dead and gone at that time, he died in 2003.
Here after they arrested Keefe D
One thing we can all agree on is Keefe D was in the car and Gene wasn’t, so anything he says is just speculation, but he speaking like he was in the car
Facts that nigga don’t know shit he be lying just like he be lying about shit surrounding biggie smalls death
He kept saying according to Keefe D and what he heard.
Gene wasn’t there when 2Pac got killed all speculation.
Keefe d is telling the truth bro
Anytime is not the perfect time
This man saying he's going by what the witness says but refuse to believe what Keefe D said when Keefe was in the car, what sense does that make?
Dre and Orlando we’re both dead when keefe snitched 😂😂😂😂 why doesn’t art correct him when I know art knows that
Idk man, Gene sounds like he made a recent deal with Duffy to get off his neck
I love Gene Deal interview
"No Gene"! "We do not understand"!
Was you there Gean
Exactly its speculations and he hate puffy for some reason
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@@slippinjimmy9052yall not even listening lol.
So only people who are at a crime scene can know stuff?
@@HurrikaneBEA5T possble tired of this tupac bullshit
I don’t understand the logic of saying it was Orlando if it was Dre. Wasn’t Dre deceased as well?
Gene changed his story
Thank you!
Thank you
Well I'm here after the news
Big Gean acts like he was there
GENE SPEAKING THE FACTS THAT YALL DONT GET. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS.
@neekemik2146 its night time and theres lights everywhere.. you cant really tell the real color of the arm that was it light or dark skin.
Gene break it down like kyrie irving break down a defense 😂
Gene always portraying his per perspective as facts, just saying
That’s everybody
Man who cares zip gave the gun even if it wasn't zip personally or it was his group members it's still zip giving something
Gene deal… the only person that can turn my shitty earphones into top quality noise cancellation earphones with all that shouting 😂
Keefe doesn’t put a name to it now when he’s asked about who fired the shots.. he just says it came from the backseat.
The legend returns 😂
This dude is soooo weird he wasn't even there😂😂😂😂
Lol...Exactly.
You wasn't ether
@@little_thebodyguard3032 Nigga I ain't say I was!!!!!
@@little_thebodyguard3032The people who there don't even say any bullshit shit like this
I heard Orlando shoulder was broke
Keefe d said it himself
Dislocated
💯 Right, there no way Orlando did the shooting at Tupac 96'LVas his aim won't be highly accurate aim sloppy aim at that after beat down get jump from group of people. If that was really true Tupac will have been alive about now.
I've noticed that bodyguards to celebrities they know the truth to dirt done by celebrities
0:25 it cracks me up sometimes when I see the "most replayed" parts of some videos. I understand 1000% why that's the most replayed part. I had to replay it myself.
Maybe Keefe D did it. He was under a lot of heat from the authorities. So he blamed it on his dead nephew.
Yep in his interviews he gets mad defensive and aggressive when it's addressed for a reason
He blamed it on his nephew cuz that’s who was responsible
@@kevonsidek9737 Wouldn't Big dre make most sense? He was sitting on the left in the back. perfect aim towards the target. Keefe put it on Orlando because he was the only 1 from all 4 in the car who was dead at that point. Quite a few people i have seen do interviews have said it was not Orlando.
Smart ones would
@@kenzopeypers738Dre was dead by the time Keefe gave that first confession. The only other living suspect at that time was the driver
Who else here because Gene Deal don’t know wtf he takin bout?
Gene 'back tracks on shit he said' Deal
What he back track on? Jus asking
I only came here to see who Keffe D is after the news broke out 😂