Mystery of Tiger 131 - The Allies Capture a Strange Abandoned Tank

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  • čas přidán 24. 03. 2022
  • On April 24, 1943, John Oscroft was ordered to take and hold an enemy position identified as Point 174 alongside the 2nd Battalion Sherwood Foresters; it would be the young man’s first time seeing action, and he was feeling anxious and uneasy.
    Still, Oscroft found some relief in knowing his Battalion would be supported by nine friendly tanks, but as the brutal battle raged on, the tanks were nowhere to be seen.
    Fighting valiantly and after severe casualties, the British soldiers captured the enemy position on top of the hill but soon spotted two dreaded Tiger 1s.
    The newest German tanks were a mighty and devastating weapon, a remarkable achievement of German engineering and one of the most technologically advanced armored vehicles in the entire global conflict.
    As the tanks overwhelmed their position, the soldiers dropped to the floor to take cover. Tiger 131 was quickly approaching, and Oscroft suddenly took his PIAT anti-tank weapon and aimed it. With no reinforcements on sight, it was their last chance at survival…
    - As images and footage of actual events are not always available, Dark Docs sometimes utilizes similar historical images and footage for dramatic effect. I do my best to keep it as visually accurate as possible. All content on Dark Docs is researched, produced, and presented in historical context for educational purposes. We are history enthusiasts and are not always experts in some areas, so please don't hesitate to reach out to us with corrections, additional information, or new ideas. -

Komentáře • 812

  • @patrickstewart3446
    @patrickstewart3446 Před 2 lety +42

    The Tiger in a Nutshell:
    Speer: We’ve just produced our newest tank fresh of the assembly line for your next campaign. It has heavy amour, an 88 main gun and can take down anything on the battlefield.
    Rommel: I can’t wait to see it. Where is it?
    Speer: In the shop for repairs.

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose Před 2 lety +1

      The tiger, a formidable opponent if you can find one that runs

  • @flyswryan
    @flyswryan Před 2 lety +14

    I like how he shows a radial engine being installed while narrating that it had a V-12.

    • @jimmyguy428
      @jimmyguy428 Před rokem

      I think that might have been a Sherman tank because some used radial engines as one of their engine options. That Chrysler multibank (5, six cylinder inline, flat head engines) was a wild setup.

  • @CZ350tuner
    @CZ350tuner Před 2 lety +349

    You missed out the part where a 6 Pounder shot deflected off of the Tiger's left turret lifting lug and struck the commander in the head, mortally wounding him. His unconscious body fell back inside the tank, causing the crew to believe they had been perforated. This is what caused the crew to abandon the tank and run off. Tiger 131 was captured with the engine still running, with the mortally wounded commander still onboard.
    Tiger 131's left turret lug still bears the scar from the 6 Pounder shot hit.

    • @fetus2280
      @fetus2280 Před 2 lety +33

      Yup... The turret / gun was disabled and then the bailout occurred. If not mistaken the Tank itself is in Bovington in the Tank Museum, it still running today .

    • @philmenzies2477
      @philmenzies2477 Před 2 lety +86

      @@fetus2280 Cant they shut it off? 😜

    • @fetus2280
      @fetus2280 Před 2 lety +33

      @@philmenzies2477 HA ! Took me a sec to realize wth you're talking about.. Good one mate, Dad joke of the day :) Cheers

    • @JagerLange
      @JagerLange Před 2 lety +5

      @@fetus2280 It mentions the Museum in the close of the video.

    • @brealistic3542
      @brealistic3542 Před 2 lety +17

      The Tiger 131 turret was jammed from a shot to the turret ring. The crew bailed out since the turret couldn't be traversed. I never ever heard of the commander of the tank being killed by a deflecting shot off a lug. Please give a link. 😉

  • @phillipgrubb2443
    @phillipgrubb2443 Před 2 lety +477

    I like how the majority of the tigers shown in this are tiger IIs not tiger Is

    • @jeffallen3382
      @jeffallen3382 Před 2 lety +29

      Exactly.

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 Před 2 lety +33

      So, its just backing footage to the audio

    • @scavulous6336
      @scavulous6336 Před 2 lety +61

      @@solariss452 buddy, there's only so much footage out there, it's just eye candy to look at

    • @mrains100
      @mrains100 Před 2 lety +32

      The video is free, so what is the problem?

    • @chris77jay77
      @chris77jay77 Před 2 lety +52

      It’s just a guy making videos. It’s not the fucking History Channel. Cut him some slack.

  • @nickolynch1824
    @nickolynch1824 Před 2 lety +103

    I've had the pleasure of seeing this awesome machine in action at the Bovington Tank Museum.

    • @FOOLSGOLD7875
      @FOOLSGOLD7875 Před 2 lety +6

      I have had a warm up ride in the commander's position in her....she is awesome! The wounds on the turret and chassis are frightening, I don't blame the crew for bailing out.

    • @BuBornham
      @BuBornham Před 2 lety +1

      @Shane Doe you could just say "Russian" yknow, communists are people. "Marching to their death" shouldn't be a joke. Your parents raised you wrong.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 Před 2 lety +2

      @@BuBornham in truth the Germans originally called the Russians Bolsheviks not communist but later generalised simply Russisch

    • @petergreen3721
      @petergreen3721 Před 2 lety +3

      Me granddad learned to drive a valentine at bovington

    • @quantum5087
      @quantum5087 Před 2 lety +2

      I’ve been there too

  • @juststeve5542
    @juststeve5542 Před 2 lety +92

    Story about Tiger 1 in Africa... Footage almost entirely of Tiger 2s, being inspected by Joachim Peiper in Europe if I'm not mistaken...
    Oh Dark Docs, you never change...

    • @carlorrman8769
      @carlorrman8769 Před 2 lety +7

      Spot on mate. Big difference there.

    • @haterbehavior4583
      @haterbehavior4583 Před 2 lety +2

      Thought those were tiger 2’s still a badass tank also looks like a couple of PZ lV

    • @replicant5393
      @replicant5393 Před 2 lety +17

      Or talking about Tiger 1's production while showing M3 Grants on the production line. Hmmmm.

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 Před 2 lety +1

      @@replicant5393 Ha! I know.

    • @jonmcgee6987
      @jonmcgee6987 Před 2 lety +6

      In some regards he's getting to be worse than Jingles. Though Jingles at least admits he's crap at times.

  • @frankkirwin-hall6295
    @frankkirwin-hall6295 Před 2 lety +22

    Glad I reviewed some others' comments to learn that I was not the only one to notice that many of the visuals were of Koenig Tiger (King Tiger) tanks, not regular Tigers. What's more there are several unattributed clips of Italian soldiers, Italian tanks (M11/39? one give away is the main gun mounted on the body while a secondary gun is mounted in a smallish turret.) and I believe even Italian artillery. It does not add to the value of the film when one finds oneself looking for errors rather than listening to the narration. Despite the qualities of the Tiger and Koenig Tiger German industry simply could not keep up with the production capacity of the Allied powers. The Allies could afford to lose three or more of their tanks to kill one Tiger because there simply were not enough Tigers being manufactured to replace losses.

  • @markpaul8178
    @markpaul8178 Před 2 lety +56

    I was a tanker for 12 yrs on 5 different tanks.The problem with the Sherman's against German tanks was this.There were no forward American scouts early on to point out and mark positions of German armour before an attack.As American forces pushed the France,some units went to moving scouts in forward positions to find German armour ,then report back to command to draw up operations orders in how the attack should take place .Having a forward air controller among the scouts were crucial to call in air attacks before the battle to get German armour scattered and confused.Once American units started this practice,they pushed forward pretty quickly.The American army armour tactics were established in Europe are still used to this day.I went to advanced armour training in fort knox for 93 days in 1994 for platoon sgts. only.E-6 to E-7.Operations orders,CEOIs,tactics,and everything in between to make you a successful leader.Thanks DARK DOCS for this splendid video.

    • @paulprigge1209
      @paulprigge1209 Před 2 lety +8

      Thank you for your service! Just a weekend Warrior during the Reagan years

    • @markpaul8178
      @markpaul8178 Před 2 lety +5

      @@paulprigge1209 Paul,thank you sir for your service.I served in the RA,and NG.

    • @paulprigge1209
      @paulprigge1209 Před 2 lety +1

      @@markpaul8178 My uncle was World War II. His wife and
      Mother-in-law got stuck in Germany during World War II. He served Army. My dad was Army Air Force and then Air Force that transition of 45 to 47

    • @markpaul8178
      @markpaul8178 Před 2 lety +1

      @@paulprigge1209 Thanks Paul for your story.

    • @markpaul8178
      @markpaul8178 Před 2 lety

      Sir,your name rings a bell.I have heard your name somewhere down the line.

  • @oberleutnanttai4343
    @oberleutnanttai4343 Před 2 lety +51

    I know tiger 1s aren't invincible but they are damn cool to look at.

    • @haterbehavior4583
      @haterbehavior4583 Před 2 lety +6

      Majority of footage are tiger 2’s

    • @ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube
      @ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube Před 2 lety

      @@haterbehavior4583 facts

    • @kleverich
      @kleverich Před 2 lety

      Would be nice if there were some in the video.

    • @Nikolai....
      @Nikolai.... Před 2 lety

      Cause Hugo Boss.
      Not all Germans were Nazis.
      We fought the wrong enemy. (George S Patton)
      I don't condone the Nazis but they have the best uniforms.

    • @ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube
      @ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube Před 2 lety +1

      @@Nikolai.... they did have the best uniform, but they also had the worst reason for fighting in the opinion of most rational people.

  • @davesmith7993
    @davesmith7993 Před rokem +14

    Germany has been building formidable tanks since the Tiger 1 and are still building world class tanks with their latest "cats" the Leopard series. Once again Mark brought to life a spellbinding WW2 story of valour and intrigue.

    • @JimHugg-gl9bs
      @JimHugg-gl9bs Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah we will see the results of the leopards in Ukraine now it should be pretty lopsided.

    • @TheMrmango69
      @TheMrmango69 Před 11 měsíci

      @@JimHugg-gl9bs they getting destroyed lmao most of em are gone

    • @JimHugg-gl9bs
      @JimHugg-gl9bs Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheMrmango69 probably why i haven't heard about them then

  • @Rolandbadger
    @Rolandbadger Před 2 lety +10

    Tiger 131 is a grand old lady these days, enjoying her retirement at Bovington. She gets to come out once or twice a year and show off on tank day to the amazement and enjoyment of cheering crowds who marvel at her size and power. She got to star in the movie FURY- the only movie ever filmed that features a real Tiger tank.

    • @Spartan902
      @Spartan902 Před 11 měsíci

      If I ever make it to England, Bovington tank museum is the first place I intend to visit. We have nothing like Bovington here.

  • @HammerJammer81
    @HammerJammer81 Před 2 lety +3

    Come to see the Tiger 131, watch as they assemble M3 Lee's. Glorious.

  • @u8ntcn031
    @u8ntcn031 Před 2 lety +210

    For a story about the Tiger I,, there are very few images of it actually in the video.
    There is the repeated footage of a 'review' of Tiger II's (King Tiger), but for a documentary, it's specificity, and accuracy, are sadly lacking.

    • @dj1NM3
      @dj1NM3 Před 2 lety +27

      I though it slightly amusing seeing an American Medium Tank M3 production line coming on-screen when talking about German tank factories.

    • @lexuiosub118
      @lexuiosub118 Před 2 lety +6

      allso m3 Lee factory

    • @chriskerrigan7440
      @chriskerrigan7440 Před 2 lety +13

      I tend to really listen only, the footage is done with after a minute. Then they loop sometimes. And 100% agree with the comment concerning the Tiger 2 footage whilst the original Tiger is being described. It's as bad as I've seen. Just lazy.

    • @msau9747
      @msau9747 Před 2 lety +14

      There are SO many falsities in Dark Doc videos. I don't even think he does his research. What WW2 buff doesn't know the difference between a Tiger I and 2!!?!?!?!?!

    • @trappenweisseguy27
      @trappenweisseguy27 Před 2 lety +18

      And when he’s talking about the “advanced” engine of the Tiger he’s showing footage of a radial engine going into an American tank 🤣.

  • @Wonkabar007
    @Wonkabar007 Před 2 lety +118

    Amazing to think when Tiger 131 was on the production line in WW2, it would still be alive in 2022 👍

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 2 lety +3

      With digital controls no less!

    • @henrikcarlsen1881
      @henrikcarlsen1881 Před 2 lety +2

      It kind of is. The Leopard is a descendant of these (mostly the Pahther) WW2 tanks

    • @lukeisadog
      @lukeisadog Před 2 lety

      No it wouldn't

    • @nanab256
      @nanab256 Před 2 lety

      ford t was on production ober 100 years ago and still a lot of this are alive, not like only one last tiger

    • @lukeisadog
      @lukeisadog Před 2 lety

      @@nanab256 yes

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 Před 2 lety +31

    I know quite well the story of the Bovington Tiger 131 but it must be pointed out that it was not shot any traverse mechanism but simply a lucky shot that ricocheted against the "roof" cracking it, both destroying the radio and blocking the turret. The other issue is that the Maybach HL210 P45 was not originally developed as the engine for the Tiger but originally developed as an aero engine but then it became the only 650 hp available for the Tiger and it was very compact 21.35-litre (1303 cu.in.) 12-cylinder...

    • @pctrashtalk2069
      @pctrashtalk2069 Před 2 lety +1

      The engine shown looks like a radial engine not a V12. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maybach_HL230

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 Před 2 lety

      @@pctrashtalk2069 it is by all means a V-12 engine, has nothing to do with a radial engine. Two important things: the Tiger 131 was originally powered by the HL 210 with a slightly smaller displacement and lesser torque compared to the never seen green HL 230. The great difference was that the HL 210 made extensive use of aluminium including the crankcase and block, the opposite was using gray cast Iron, larger displacement more horsepower but more importantly a better and more reliable torque!

  • @johnnykinnear6702
    @johnnykinnear6702 Před 2 lety +9

    Yet more than 90% of film is showing other tanks and assault guns 💪 thanks for this.

    • @smallthings6590
      @smallthings6590 Před 2 lety +1

      Lol go watch something else then. Like real footage is falling out of trees.

    • @johnnykinnear6702
      @johnnykinnear6702 Před 2 lety +2

      @@smallthings6590 I can only imagine how videos like this is how history becomes so warped over years and years.

    • @johnnykinnear6702
      @johnnykinnear6702 Před 2 lety

      But hey king Tigers are basically the same as 🐯s eh lol.

    • @silent1967
      @silent1967 Před 2 lety +1

      Just pretend it's story telling time, just like it was in the 30's and 40's.

    • @johnnykinnear6702
      @johnnykinnear6702 Před 2 lety

      @@smallthings6590 it’s too bad you haven’t seen the documentary called tiger files which is an hour long video completely on tiger 131 it’s on Amazon prime but good try.

  • @appsstore11
    @appsstore11 Před 2 lety +5

    I've touched tiger 131 at the tank museum it's a very impressive tank even now

  • @guylelanglois6642
    @guylelanglois6642 Před 2 lety +13

    More actual tiger one pics would have been nice. Excellent video of Grant or Lee tanks being assembled while talking up the tigers. Good video of the tiger two also. Actually saw one or two pics of the star of the show

    • @jaex9617
      @jaex9617 Před 2 lety +1

      Dark Docs be that way.

    • @HollywoodMarine0351
      @HollywoodMarine0351 Před 2 lety +1

      Mark Felton Productions recently posted a video on the same subject and did a far better job than Dark Docs.

    • @guylelanglois6642
      @guylelanglois6642 Před 2 lety +2

      @@HollywoodMarine0351 mark is fantastic ain't he

    • @guylelanglois6642
      @guylelanglois6642 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jaex9617 yet I still subscribe. Lol

    • @HollywoodMarine0351
      @HollywoodMarine0351 Před 2 lety +2

      @@guylelanglois6642 we watch Mark Felton for facts, while Dark Docs for the entertainment of catching their errors. lol

  • @jessenoyhing3871
    @jessenoyhing3871 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for all the work you put in.

  • @misterknight3901
    @misterknight3901 Před 2 lety +3

    I really enjoy your documentaries. I really look forward to find new ones to watch.

  • @trj1442
    @trj1442 Před 2 lety +3

    Another excellent episode. Thankyou.

  • @jeffallen3382
    @jeffallen3382 Před 2 lety +7

    Video about the Tiger 1 but you show more footage of the Tiger 2...
    Smh

    • @jamessnee7171
      @jamessnee7171 Před 2 lety

      Easy to tell them apart.

    • @jeffallen3382
      @jeffallen3382 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jamessnee7171 for me yes, but someone who doesn't follow the history of WW2... they probably won't know.

  • @ponz-
    @ponz- Před 2 lety +17

    Amazing what beautiful beasts they were. In those pictures even though it was fighting a few Churchills and took at least one 75 round there really isn’t a mark on it. Wouldn’t want to face those on the battlefield. Has to be an awful feeling to be not only outgunned but not even able pierce the armor of the enemy on the battlefield.

    • @geraldmahle9833
      @geraldmahle9833 Před rokem

      I had AIT at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Spring 1967. There was a King Tiger in the tank park which had sustained two direct hits by Shermans in the nose. The hits looked just like the damage you'd do to a stick of butter with a table knife. In other words negligible, pitiful. The Tiger must have also been abandoned, since there was no other visible damage. The turret was tall enough to stand upright in, regardless of the hull. A freaking massive tank. Remember, the Tiger's main gun was an 88mm antiaircraft gun. No wonder it was feared.

  • @joelwalk3728
    @joelwalk3728 Před 2 lety +4

    Some of the production line assembly shown is for the M3 Grant or Lee depending on British or American deployment.
    One of the primary benefits of the Soviet T-34 was that it ran on diesel fuel which of course does not ignite in the presence of a flame--it takes high compression (upwards of 16:1) presence in order to get diesel fuel to actually burn. The T-34 was loosely based on J. Walter Christie (American) proposed AFV that was rejected by the US army as insufficient even though it had tremendous cross-country capability.

  • @Cerberus0076
    @Cerberus0076 Před 2 lety +1

    This Beast is even intimitating on screen! Dear Boy

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme Před 2 lety

    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support

  • @Motoguzzi2231
    @Motoguzzi2231 Před 2 lety +1

    One of the many high points of my visit to the Tank Museum, although my wife's eyes glazed over after the first dozen or so and stated that she would meet me in the gift shop.
    Any tank enthusiast owes themselves at least one visit.

  • @im4broke643
    @im4broke643 Před 2 lety +3

    Okay...I watch/and sub'd to several of your channels. This might be my best yet. That Tiger tank is still operational? I think I heard that correctly as "the only one remaining and working". BTW, this is my first comment on any of your channels. I do love the history and efforts you put in, the time length is great, I can binge several at a time. And I always give the thumbs up...mostly just when I click on it so I don't forget....but I've never been dissatisfied. I might miss a thumbs up for you, but all of them deserve a good thumbs up. Thank you for this content!

    • @HammerJammer81
      @HammerJammer81 Před 2 lety

      If you want to see the actual tank. Tiger 131 is in the Movie Fury. Its one and only time in a major Film IIRC

    • @calessel3139
      @calessel3139 Před rokem

      If you live in England or ever visit there, it's on display at the Bovington Tank Museum. Furthermore, each year Tiger 131 is driven in the "Tankfest" parade on museum grounds. And yes, to date it's the only running tiger in existence, although a number of others are planned to be refurbished to running condition.

  • @sammythompson3694
    @sammythompson3694 Před 2 lety

    Eisenhower's ships ran aground and he still came out a hero.

  • @ageingviking5587
    @ageingviking5587 Před 2 lety

    Good stuff D Ds . Thank you

  • @gregmesemondo1401
    @gregmesemondo1401 Před 2 lety

    Dear docs. Always good and interesting. Classic history channel of unique things online. Perfection.

  • @Obsulus07
    @Obsulus07 Před 2 lety +5

    Why are we talking about Tiger I's, but seeing almost entirely Tiger II's?

  • @darrelhandgraaf7708
    @darrelhandgraaf7708 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video!

  • @zachh5812
    @zachh5812 Před 2 lety

    Another great video!

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @equarg
    @equarg Před 2 lety +3

    I think The Captured Tiger was actually used in a movie not to long ago!
    “Fury” I think.
    But with strict conditions on how it could be used.
    The fact it’s the only working tiger left makes it precious.

    • @SenpaiiHentaiii
      @SenpaiiHentaiii Před 2 lety

      You are correct, they also have the Sherman ‘Fury’ 76mm that was used in the film too at Bovington along side 131.

  • @mudiusp6050
    @mudiusp6050 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful exposition.

  • @nathanworthington4451
    @nathanworthington4451 Před 2 lety +3

    Marc Felton already did it &its way better.❤

  • @reYouMad
    @reYouMad Před 2 lety

    Shout out for you!
    Your videos are always good.
    Although I'm not a war history fanatic I watch all your videos, and keep doing that.
    Keep it up!

    • @Deuce_and_a_half
      @Deuce_and_a_half Před 2 lety +2

      No, dude, you need to have better standards. The video is about the Tiger 1, and most of the footage shown is the Tiger 2. Whe he says about production we are shown footage of Grant tanks. Like this is History Channel level content. Narration thrown over any black and white footage they could find.

    • @HollywoodMarine0351
      @HollywoodMarine0351 Před 2 lety

      Dark series videos always come with errors. Mark Felton Productions recently posted a video on the same subject and did a far better job than Dark Docs. Take a look and see the difference in quality details.

  • @scocon8658
    @scocon8658 Před 2 lety +3

    I figure enough people have already noted the majority of Tiger footage showed the Tiger 2, AKA King Tiger...
    But the film of the Tiger 2's in formation for inspection - This shot was remade with M47's in the 1965 film "Battle of the Bulge"

  • @htos1av
    @htos1av Před 2 lety

    WOW! There is still ONE fully functional Tiger! That's amazing!

  • @tannerjones9687
    @tannerjones9687 Před 2 lety +1

    Good stuff 👍

  • @ericlee3421
    @ericlee3421 Před rokem

    Excellent.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 2 lety +7

    Great story! For their day the Tiger was an awe-inspiring piece of engineering.

  • @wombatwilly1002
    @wombatwilly1002 Před 2 lety +47

    When the Germans first ran into the T-34's they were unaware that Russia even had that tank.Also,the initial T-34's they ran into in Barbarossa weren't the T-34 85's they had the standard 76 mm guns.The 85 upgrade came later.

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 2 lety +5

      The T34's of both guns were fundamentally well designed machines (if uncomfortable !), but mass production created massive quality issues rendering them much less effective than they might have been ... The KV1 was also a monster tank, but not many of them were available and I understand that they were fairly slow ...

    • @outinthesticks1035
      @outinthesticks1035 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Jester-Riddle the kv1 was also known to have a obsolete and weak transmission that left them stranded a lot

    • @paulmentzer7658
      @paulmentzer7658 Před 2 lety +3

      I read the first KVs used the same engine and transmission as the T-34. The problem was the KV was just to heavy for that engine and transmission.

    • @bluntone2273
      @bluntone2273 Před 2 lety +1

      The superiority of the t34 has been greatly exaggerated as well.

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 2 lety +2

      @@bluntone2273 Part of the 'superiority' came from the fact that it was cheap and quick to produce, so volumes were available ...

  • @wojtek1582
    @wojtek1582 Před 2 lety +3

    0:38 you talk about first appearance of Tiger I while showing pretty different and much bigger Tiger II tanks. That can be so confusing for many people who do not know German armor...

  • @MoCrush
    @MoCrush Před 2 lety

    Love your videos

  • @duncanread4442
    @duncanread4442 Před 2 lety +3

    Love your videos although it was a bit confusing to keep seeing picks of a king tiger. I got a bit confused

  • @jojumohanrok
    @jojumohanrok Před 2 lety

    Good info

  • @jayashcroft3822
    @jayashcroft3822 Před 2 lety

    I'm glad he and his unit is now getting the credit they deserve

  • @stevennewman8276
    @stevennewman8276 Před 2 lety

    My favorite is the Liger. Half lion half tiger...thanks Napoleon!

  • @sirridesalot6652
    @sirridesalot6652 Před 2 lety

    I love the footage that within three minutes of the beginning they showed footage of the M3 Grant/Lee tanks being assembled and then footage of the King Tigers when they were talking about the Tiger I. Almost gave up watching this at that point.

  • @mr1ybbob3214
    @mr1ybbob3214 Před 2 lety +5

    I love the videos and this story was amazing. Sadly most of the pictures and videos are not accurate to what you're talking about, but I realize how hard it would be to find videos that do match

    • @flynhiinthesky
      @flynhiinthesky Před 2 lety +1

      Any videos of a Tiger 1 would be preferable to endless Tiger 2 footage. It’s not as if footage of Tiger 1s is difficult to find.

    • @EducationInHistory
      @EducationInHistory Před 2 lety +2

      @@flynhiinthesky a lot of people don’t get how long it takes to make a 10 minute video either

    • @flynhiinthesky
      @flynhiinthesky Před 2 lety

      @@EducationInHistory spend the time doing a video properly and get congratulated for it; or do a inaccurate video and get criticised for it. Which is better?

    • @mr1ybbob3214
      @mr1ybbob3214 Před 2 lety

      @@flynhiinthesky it's just the footage that's wrong. All the info he gave is right

    • @flynhiinthesky
      @flynhiinthesky Před 2 lety

      @@mr1ybbob3214 I agree, but a video is a visual format. If it was just a audio recording, then it’s good quality production. But if you’re going to add pictures or video, try to use footage appropriate to what is being spoken about. Don’t get me wrong, I subscribe to all the Dark channels and the vast majority of videos are great. Just not this one.
      Anyway, we’ve picked on him enough. Let’s wait for the next video.

  • @manlaw77
    @manlaw77 Před 2 lety

    Well done 👏

  • @Aardvarkdk1
    @Aardvarkdk1 Před 2 lety +6

    Tiger II's er shown the most, as "Tiger", and, the Tiger 1 has a 88 mm gun....

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose Před 2 lety +1

      They both have 88s, the konigstiger has a 71 caliber gun and the tiger has a 56 caliber gun. Caliber is just the length of the barrel, given in terms of the bore, so the tigers barrel has an 88mm bore and the barrel is 56x88mm long

    • @Aardvarkdk1
      @Aardvarkdk1 Před 2 lety

      @@vthegoose I heard wrong I think, and you are correct :)

    • @flynhiinthesky
      @flynhiinthesky Před 2 lety

      @@vthegoose the Tiger 2 carried an updated version of the 88, the KwK 43 which was a 71 calibre length gun.

  • @nicksterklad1
    @nicksterklad1 Před 2 lety

    Interesting story about Tiger 131 and narrating is excellent.

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 Před 2 lety +13

    At around 1:40 it is mentioned that the Germans were surprised by the Soviet tanks. In four years, the Soviets had developed and manufactured better tanks than the Germans who were still in the development stage. So what had the Soviets done right that they outperformed the Germans?
    A second observation, there are many stories naming individuals who were heroes in the battlefields, but very few names of those developers and engineers who invented the deadly weapons used. Some of them must have received recognition by their governments, and not only on the Manhattan Project and Enigma.

    • @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132
      @doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Před 2 lety +5

      Most often people arent recognized for that type of stuff some dude had great ideas about armoring a tank, and planned out to the workers and they were recognized as a team(company) for making such a great tank. The single worker is barely recognized, especially in the Soviet union.

    • @aprilwing974
      @aprilwing974 Před 2 lety +7

      The Russians didn't really have better tanks if you knew their secret. The most famed of the Russian tanks was the T34, which the Russians went to great pains to keep far away from the Germans until they had a great number of them and first used the T34 in a massive tank battle at Kursk. They did great until the Germans were near the end of their own tanks. The Russians had merely put more armor on the front of the tank, but didn't develop a much better engine. Thus, in order to keep the engines from breaking down, they had taken armor off the rear of the tank. If they were fired upon from in front with cannons, their armor was thicker and better than anything the German possessed, but it was said that you could fire into the engine, fuel tank, or crew area wiry any rifle. They literally ALWAYS had to face the enemy or they were riding in steel coffins.

    • @KermitFrazierdotcom
      @KermitFrazierdotcom Před 2 lety +3

      The big reason for the T-34's advantages was that Germany had contracted the Soviets to build THEIR tanks, pre-Barbarossa.
      Oh, if Hitler had only paid attention!

    • @wombatwilly1002
      @wombatwilly1002 Před 2 lety +6

      The Soviets studied many tank designs while coming up with the T-34,including using the "Christie"suspension.They wanted it simple and easy to mass produce in numbers.The Germans on the other hand usually had way over engenered stuff that was harder to produce.

    • @eugeneblackman
      @eugeneblackman Před 2 lety +6

      Angled armour was the main reason. Any armour plate at 45° has a greater effective thickness and has the added benefit of deflection.
      If Hitler hadn’t been such an ADHD nightmare, stuck to simple, cheaper designs, and out-manufactured the allies, we’d all be speaking German right now.

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 Před 2 lety

    I've got to visit that tank museum when I visit the UK.

  • @brianpayne4549
    @brianpayne4549 Před 2 lety +1

    From what I learned in high school, carrying a piat was no real honor. They were junk.

  • @jessenoyhing3871
    @jessenoyhing3871 Před rokem

    Always great info and entertainment. I love history

  • @Mephistopholies
    @Mephistopholies Před 2 lety

    Good show!

  • @RiverWhisperPrd
    @RiverWhisperPrd Před 2 lety

    Well done.

  • @Chevallier87
    @Chevallier87 Před 2 lety

    I love how you got this in a day before Mark Felton ;)))

  • @PanzerLehr88
    @PanzerLehr88 Před 2 lety

    GREAT VIDEO 👌👌

  • @chimbonda99
    @chimbonda99 Před 2 lety

    Awesome story of the Sherwood Foresters regiment. They are from my home town of Derby in the UK

  • @dennisforbes2532
    @dennisforbes2532 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm confused, Are you talking about the tiger 1 or the King Tiger. I see mostly Tiger 2's and I guess you threw in some scenes of the building of some General Lee tanks lol

    • @juliushummer1069
      @juliushummer1069 Před 2 lety +2

      You are correct. The guy does not bother to inform himself. Pity.

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose Před 2 lety +1

      He’s talking about tiger 131, the footage is irrelevant

    • @Deuce_and_a_half
      @Deuce_and_a_half Před 2 lety +1

      @@vthegoose If the footage is irrelevant it shouldn't be there. This is supposed to be an informative video. Imagine your teacher in primary started teaching you about a new animal, a Giraffe for example, telling the kids about it's long neck and spotted skin. While a zebra was on the blackboard.
      Little Timmy: "Teacher what's that on the blackboard?"
      Teacher: "Oh that's a zebra, it's got nothing to do with what I'm currently talking about, I just thought it looked cool there"

    • @HollywoodMarine0351
      @HollywoodMarine0351 Před 2 lety

      @@Deuce_and_a_half Dark series videos always make errors. Mark Felton Productions recently posted a video on the same subject and did a far better job. I watch Dark Docs for the entertainment of catching errors, and Mark Felton for facts.

  • @AndreasdeV308
    @AndreasdeV308 Před 2 lety

    Nice video.

  • @troygroomes104
    @troygroomes104 Před 2 lety +4

    Tiger 131 was disabled by a British tank, not an anti tank rifle or gun

  • @dustyfan22
    @dustyfan22 Před 2 lety

    I have a Cobi (kinda like Lego) model of the 131, pretty sick learning more about it

  • @electricalife
    @electricalife Před 2 lety

    No denying Germany's history of world class engineering and machining. That Maybach engine is a thing of beauty.

  • @ahorpaduidang2070
    @ahorpaduidang2070 Před 4 měsíci

    Am ur new subscriber I enjoy watching

  • @manyfaces2614
    @manyfaces2614 Před 2 lety

    On my bucket list also

  • @DefconSix
    @DefconSix Před 2 lety +9

    I really dig the narrator. Been watching the "Dark" series of documentaries for years and his slightly hushed yet hurried, enthusiastic, transatlantic style is unique.
    If this is the start of a career, then don't expect the job offers to ever dry up.
    A lot of people say they want Morgan Freeman to narrate their life, I want this guy! ^^^

    • @DefilarTheGreat
      @DefilarTheGreat Před 2 lety

      Same bro, I love his work.

    • @Jedi.Toby.M
      @Jedi.Toby.M Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for saying it! I've thought that exact same thing since I found this channel a few years back. Can he teach my corporate office? They really need help in speaking... 😆

    • @richardelliott9511
      @richardelliott9511 Před 2 lety +1

      Rob Lowe

    • @alexanderbjorklund6971
      @alexanderbjorklund6971 Před 2 lety

      He sounds exactly like Tom Cavanagh and Aidan Gillen combined

    • @daveybyrden3936
      @daveybyrden3936 Před 2 lety

      If this guy narrates your life, the video will be mostly photos of other people, not you.

  • @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
    @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 Před 2 lety +6

    This is a story about a Tiger 1. Why add Tiger 2s and self-propelled guns to the visuals? Finally, why wasn't the intelligence gained from 131 passed to the USA for the development of add-on armor and a more capable gun for the Sherman than a 75 mm based on the design of the French WW1 75?

    • @Simonsvids
      @Simonsvids Před 2 lety

      To annoy you Yanks. Anyway, we guessed you would Welch on your agreement to share nuclear technology after the war, even though Brits were involved in the Manhattan project 😆

    • @anthony7697
      @anthony7697 Před 2 lety

      What makes you think it wasn't - on top of the US's own experiences in North Africa? The M4 was designed to be reliable and easy to make and had armour as good, if not better, than anything in it's weight class. Also - the M4's starting in 1942 were equipped with 76 mm guns on some models with better penetration than the 75 mm depending on round used. Then there is of course the E2 'Jumbo' where they welded on more plates to give it an effective thickness of 180 mm or over 7 inches - 75% more than a Tiger I. And German reports that even the base line Sherman's if at a 30 degree angle were either immune to the 8.8 cm gun if hit in the upper angled plate, or had to be within 800 meters as it varies.
      There was also the fact people further up the food chain were more focused on Tank Destroyers in the US than UK - so getting improved tanks, like the T/M26, or up-gunning/better armouring the M4 (there are photos of a test version an M4 normally meant for a short barrel 105 with the turret and 90 mm gun of an M26) was like pulling teeth and eventually required Eisenhower to step in to even get the M26 production going and have them shipped over. The US was stuck in a doctrine of 'Tank Destroyer destroys tank, Tank supports infantry' as opposed to the UK and USSR which was 'Tank supports infantry - and destroys other tanks' so they kept improving their tanks in order to both support the infantry and fight other tanks.
      They did up gun and up armour Shermans, problem is that it was a fight to do that because the doctrine was they weren't supposed to fight tanks, they were supposed to support the infantry and it was adhered to too strictly by people in positions to block further developments and all that would have gone against it.

  • @magnetmannenbannanen
    @magnetmannenbannanen Před 2 lety +5

    when u see the pictures of churchill on top of that tank. it makes u wonder if british tanks became as good as they are now , at that specific point in time. its like u can see it in his face "this will win wars" and he invested more into good tanks.

    • @metalmilitia1o740
      @metalmilitia1o740 Před 2 lety +1

      Not at that time. The British were already hurting for production of tanks due to lack of resources. The war was on and they needed to field tanks. So the tanks that were in production like the Churchill, Cromwell and towards the end of the war the Comet, were used. It wouldn't be until after World War 2 that the research and design would bear fruit with the introduction of the Centurion tank that fought in the Korean War.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat Před 2 lety +3

      @@metalmilitia1o740
      Well, the Centurion missed out on WW2 by minutes, it was most certainly not a postwar tank.
      What's really impressive is it became the most successful tank there has ever been!

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose Před 2 lety

      The Churchill was a good tank, very heavy armor, decent firepower, and it will go anywhere. The slow speed was intentional, as they were meant to advance with infantry

    • @Deuce_and_a_half
      @Deuce_and_a_half Před 2 lety

      Lol but the Tiger 1 did the opposite of "win wars" Germany's heavy tanks lost them the war.

    • @davemartino5997
      @davemartino5997 Před 2 lety

      @@Deuce_and_a_half not really

  • @michaelsoutherland3023

    T-34, 4-inch effective armor or actually 4 inches thick? The angle of sloped armor can make it relatively thicker; this theory was revolutionary in tank design.

  • @joej1144
    @joej1144 Před 2 lety

    Like the new background music

  • @chrisstewart-patterson4839

    Lots of video disconnect from audio in terms of tanks pictured. Multiple shots of Lee/Grant's being manufactured

  • @StephanieElizabethMann

    Great success against a formidable enemy. And a trophy that would be very difficult to top.

  • @anthonyburke5656
    @anthonyburke5656 Před 2 lety +1

    Something most writers ignore is the desertion rate from the German Armed Forces, a small steady trickle of desertion throughout the war, rising to a flood from late 1943, journals of French Marquisands indicates whole camps of deserters in the Marquis some of company size, similarly even in the vicious war in the Balkans, “tribes” of deserters co existed in the wilderness alongside Tito forces.

  • @dylanbulinsky5637
    @dylanbulinsky5637 Před 2 lety +1

    flawless victory

  • @markhonerbaum3920
    @markhonerbaum3920 Před 2 lety

    And to think the final and most devastating war is but a shot away, the light of a thousand sun's merely over the horizon.

  • @jaymay7957
    @jaymay7957 Před 2 lety

    Ww2 must have been quite a thing to behold

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle Před 2 lety +3

    The role of Tanks is becoming much more specialist in warfare these days, particularly because of anti-tank weapons and flying adversaries. Despite some claims to the contrary, I still believe that they have a role for a long time yet ... especially because of chemical and biological warfare threats that may yet be used on a large scale and the speed at which they can progress ...

    • @berryreading4809
      @berryreading4809 Před 2 lety +2

      They have to have modern sensors with air/ground threat detection or infantry support, (which modern ones do) but I agree, although I think we'll eventually see more tank "drones" with auto-loaders for that exact reason, or possibly conventional tanks with a small, rear of tank based/deployed, dedicated synced drone for even better overwatch and incoming alerts without having to rely upon outside air assets, especially handy for urban combat where tanks will be separated and buildings would block a single asset overwatching multiple armored vehicles... 🤔

  • @alanmoffat4454
    @alanmoffat4454 Před 2 lety

    JUST CANT GET A TRYED AND TRUTHFUL STORY THAN THAT .

  • @melmoore6885
    @melmoore6885 Před 2 lety +1

    If you want to see 131, she's you can see her, with some of her contemperies at Tiger Day on the 21st of April at Bovington Dorset, should be a good day.

  • @nomore-constipation
    @nomore-constipation Před rokem

    Played a game called Battlefield 1942. I have to say, because of the ability to modify the maps, vehicles and equipment. I learnt a lot from what each was named and during game play it wasn't as good to reality. However there was a tiny bit of accuracy to take the Tiger out in one shot.
    Unless I missed it would like to see you go over the Stuka and the kettenkrad. I always thought that half motorcycle half tank vehicle was beyond its years. Such an amazing design imo

  • @pendragonshall
    @pendragonshall Před 2 lety +2

    Well, I saw a lot of Tiger 2 footage and what looked like an American M3 Lee production line. And @7:45 those don't look like Churchills. I thought they might be Matilda's at first glance but I think they're actually Grant Command tanks as the main gun is on the turret. I even saw a Crusader and a couple of Shermans there for a moment and toward the end I think I saw a couple of flashes of Churchills.
    Not trying to trash your video just for future reference you might want to match your video's tanks along with the moments you mention certain tank types. AND I appreciate the video..
    SIDE NOTE: Can anyone tell me or verify the Tank Destroyer @4:52? It looks like a SdKfz 162/1 Panzer IV/70(V) BUT the reason THAT tank destroyer was created was to fit the 7.5 CM PaK gun. That ain't it.. And I do realize that sometimes they had to put on what they had but I don't know of any reason they would for that TD. Maybe a very rare TD with a smaller gun? Or am I wrong on what type it is?
    THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO!

  • @bergssprangare
    @bergssprangare Před 2 lety

    Showing the KIngs tiger when talking about the TIger is alike comparing JS 2 with JS3 tanks

  • @johnhanson5943
    @johnhanson5943 Před 2 lety +2

    For every Tiger or heavy tank, the Russians, British and Americans could produce 10 - 20 more maneuverable and easier to transport tanks. The Sherman Firefly + Typhoons could manage the Tiger threat. The Soviets had similar tank and air advantages.

    • @davidbancroft2478
      @davidbancroft2478 Před 2 lety

      According to Lindybeige the 1st two tigers in n.Africa were taken out by british 6 pounder anti tank guns

  • @skeetrix5577
    @skeetrix5577 Před 2 lety

    wow came out the same time as mark feltons tiger tank video

  • @BobMuir100
    @BobMuir100 Před rokem

    Excellent!
    Bob
    England

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Před rokem +1

    British tanks in North Africa were chronically unreliable and often didn’t turn up. At Bardia the much touted British tank offensive had five operable tanks by day two of the battle and three tanks on day three. That was after the Australian infantry had cleared the mine fields, cut the wire, filled in the tank traps and taken out the Italian anti-tank guns, all by hand. All the British had to do was drive but ended up slack jawed, hands in pockets safely in the rear.

  • @briantayler1230
    @briantayler1230 Před 2 lety +3

    Are there any other tanks that they want to show while talking about the Tiger. They have shown American Grant production lines and King Tiger tanks on parade. How about showing an actual Tiger being produced or driven. Talk about phoning it in. How lazy were the guys who threw this mess together.

  • @timothywalker4563
    @timothywalker4563 Před 2 lety

    Can you imagine after the battle, calling Headquarters and telling them “sir I think you should could see this”.🧐

  • @gunmasterx1164
    @gunmasterx1164 Před 2 lety

    for people who are unaware Tiger 131 will no longer be the last running tiger. The Royal Australian Armor and Artillery Museum has restored a Tiger 1 and are now working to make it driveable once again

  • @sirridesalot6652
    @sirridesalot6652 Před 2 lety

    4:05 in and I can't watch this any more. Showing a M3 Grant/Lee engine when talking about the Tiger I Maybac engine and persisting in showing King Tigers instead of Tiger 1 tanks. Is anything in this video accurate?

  • @Ewen6177
    @Ewen6177 Před 2 lety +3

    No doubt someone else, has already mentioned it. But why oh why, do you title this Tiger 131. Then proceed to show nearly other tank involved in WWII, apart from the damn Tiger.

  • @InCountry6970
    @InCountry6970 Před 2 lety +1

    Your commentary is about the Tiger 1 (2:50) while you show the Tiger II. Can you explain ?

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 Před 2 lety +1

    Image confusion. PLEASE! Subtitle the correct id of the other AFV images.