Comparing Red Wing Moc & Cap Toe Heritage Boots: Featuring 8111 Iron Rangers and 8138 Moc-Toe
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A much requested comparison between my 8138, a darker leather 875 style Classic Moc-Toe boots and the 8111 Iron Rangers! Materials and construction are discussed in depth. Both boots have high quality throughout but significant design departures which results in a very different break in process and feel on the foot!
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Full Reviews:
8138: • Review: Red Wing Herit...
8111: • Review: Red Wing Iron ...
SPECS:
1)Red Wing Iron Ranger #8111
Leather: Amber Harness Leather
Outsole: Nitrile Cork
Insole: Leather
Hardware: Nickel Eyelets and Hooks
Construction: Goodyear Welt
Last: 8
Shank: Steel
Laces: 48-inch Black/Brown Taslan Lace
2)Red Wing 8138 Moc Toe
Leather: Briar Oil Slick Leather
Outsole: Traction Tred
Insole: Leather
Hardware: Nickel Eyelets
Construction: Goodyear Welt
Last: 23
Laces: 48-inch Tan/Gold Taslan Lace
Both are USA Made
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Those Mocs are due for a re-sole! Also, 8136 and 875 are built on different lasts. 875 sits on the 23 last.
Great review! I've had the Iron Rangers for years and walked many miles in the field dove hunting with them. I can say they take a while to break in but once they do they're pretty comfortable, especially if you wear a good pair of socks. If you keep them oiled they'll last a lifetime.
I really enjoyed my Red Wings for hunting, glad to have another sportsman visit the channel!
Just got my moc toe's yesterday and now I own both! :D
Ive got a pair of moc toe 1907's. I've had them for 2 days now. Its taken me a bit to get used to the white crepe sole but I absolutely love these boots. First day of break in was brutal. 8 hours of work and my feet were killing me lol! Bought some obenaufs leather preservative to soften up the leather and after 3 hours of work on the 2nd day of break in and these bad boys are almost broke in. Highly recommend these boots for anyone that spends a lot of time on their feet doing hard labor
+3-3 Charlie Gunner thanks for the report, love the 1907's!!
Word of advise. The obenaufs will darken up the leather a tad bit so if you are one that wants to keep the original color of the boot, beware. As for myself, i want something that is gonna make the leather last a long time and this stuff is the best on the market.
I love your Red Wing videos dude, great stuff.
I recently got a pair of 8111s, your video was one of the deciding factors that made me get them.
Awesome, glad to hear man. Enjoy your RW's.
Good video, A great introduction to anyone considering buying them, I have both pairs also, they are the king of boots and I will no longer buy anything else but Redwing.👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
I am a Red Wing fan because of your videos. I discovered the brand watching your videos. I ended up collecting many boots. After many years of experimenting with Frye Alden, Danner, Allen Edmonds, Golden Fox and Red Wing I am convinced about Red Wing top quality. Currently own a old Generation Black Smith, an Iron Ranger, a Rover, a heritage work chucka and a work Cap Toe with super sole. I had the 875 in Oro Legacy and will buy again some day. I love Red wing boots for work and play . Thanks for the inspiration.
Hello! I really enjoy your videos about Red Wing boots, and they have given me lots of insight into my own pair of boots; the classic 875's. I would like to suggest that you make a video about how you take care of your boots. It cannot be denied that your reviews are quite popular and informative. You also undoubtedly have an enormous amount of knowledge on them. Your expertise and method of caring for your boots would prove very resourceful. You might consider it. Keep up the high quality!
Thanks I actually have a couple older videos if you check my how-to playlist, but perhaps an update video is in order!
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I have the 877 8" moc toe and the 8111 Iron Rangers and my experience is that the Iron Rangers needed no time at all to break in, where as the 877's are still very stiff and not yet broken into after about 3 months of regular wear. Just thought I would share.Great video by the way! :)
I pretty sure I got into Red Wings because of you. I have 4 pairs now. One correction about the iron ranger tough. It is a one piece footbed with a heel pad covering for the clinch nails that hold the heel. A 2 part footbed would be catastrophic when thinking of durability. Also no shank is needed when you have a 360 welt wedge sole.
Great videos man 👍🏻
Best regards The Cobbler
I enjoyed the video review. Your videography and insights were both on point. Thanks for posting this and keep up the good work.
I like the black Smith's and the moc toes. Both of which I own!! Next pair will probably be merchants or more blacksmiths. I do wear my moc toes everyday, super comfortable.
Great Review! Thank You! I have the 1907 for about 1 year love them
With regard to your question on lens use. I'm a photographer and personally find 50mm prime to be my go to lens most times I'm not shooting wildlife or botanical macros. If you're doing anything you'd like to look like a POV shot, 50mm is perfect, as it mimics the field of view of the human eye. All those old photographs from important times in our history that illicit a feeling of "being there in the action" were shot on a 50 for that reason.
Thanks for your comment Timothy. Very good explanation-- I appreciate it! Cheers, Andrew
I think the Round Toes are the best.
I have the 9111 and 8165 and I'm pretty much set with RWs. Once the soles wear out, I'm resoling them with Vibram 430, since I never really like the white crepes.
I don't own either one of these models but I do own a bunch of Red Wing USA boots. The models I own are 10877, 10875, 899, 676, 606, 953........MADE IN USA of course! :D
Good video! :)
I'm getting cap toes that are black and have a strap and zipper from my grandpa who passed away 2 weeks ago so I will remember him.
Awesome Redwing video Andrew! Bought two colors in the Brogue Rangers in 2013 after seeing your video a couple years ago. Thanks!👍
Awesome, glad to help!
Iron Rangers and Blacksmiths all the way for me.
That's my equipment so far. I have two each, and a few Oxford Formans. Thinking about a Moc Toe though 😅
@@Winchester1973 just got the Beckman Black Cherry Featherstone. They're beautiful.
@@Paddythefriendlykiwi Nice. I purchased olive suede moc toes. We‘ll see how me feet like them...
@@Winchester1973 awesome. If I could pick a colour for a Moc, that would be it. I'd love that with a Sawmill sole for winter. Can't get em in the UK though.
@@Paddythefriendlykiwi Got my moc toes today. Was able to snatch them for 110,- used, but only worn a few times. So far I love the look; but my feet will have to suffer a little while until broken in 😅
I'm really enjoying the changes and growth in your channel. The focus has been the only issue thats I've seen over the last few videos. I think you should be able to put that 60d is face detection auto focus mode for video. Keep 'em coming!!
Thanks a lot for the tip!
love the video! Really informative. I've had my eye on a pair of Iron Rangers for a while now. Since I don't live in an area that gets snow, I'll have to go with the IRs. :) Love all the improvements you've made. Your hard work is paying off!
Thanks a lot Dake! Cheers, Andrew
I've worn Red Wing steel toes for 40-60 hours a week for 13 years now. I've found that it isn't the weight of the boot that is an issue, you get used to that. Break-in is everything. Am I the only one that hates the turned up pant cuff look? seems like people are just trying to show off their expensive denim.
I recent fought with which one to buy but in the end I chose the moc-toe, though I will look to get the iron rangers later on. Also great videos and keep it up man great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed the video, and solid choice. I eventually got both myself haha.
I've got the 1907 moc-toe and I love them so much.
Me too man. I've had mine for a couple of days and i figure after 16 hours of work, they will be almost completely broken in. The only thing that has me concerned is the white crepe soles but they feel like you are walking on a fluffy cloud haha. Guess i will just have to sacrifice on the wear of the soles for the unbelievable comfort of these boots. How are yours holding up since you bought them?
Obenaufs leather preservative is a great protector for these boots man. Try it out if you are looking to keep your boots looking good
The video is very good, I believe other CZcamsrs use the term crispy and your video is very crispy. The macro shots on the boots, both on the inside and outside, are great. This normally true for all your product related shots. It really helps me to understand the construction and quality each boot.
I normally watch your videos on my laptop or phone, as the audio of my prime devices is solid, but not premium. I can not hear quality changes in the audio from video to video. What I can say is the I can hear and understand your voice, I don't need to turn up the volume to hear your videos which I need to do on some other CZcamsrs I follow. As for the boots, how do the sole's hold up. The moc toe's sole appeared as if it needed to be replaced.
William, I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks! The soles on the Mocs did wear out at a bit faster rate. They are getting close to needing a resole.
Just got a pair of Iron Rangers per your review and next up is the Moc Toe...Thanks for the awesome reviews, love your style.
Great quality to the video. I really like the views you were able to get of the boots.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!
I’m a college student and I think the more casual look of the moc toe is fantastic.
Love that Sig and CF Sebbie in your opening screen... Have both myself.
Good stuff indeed, thanks for watching!
Great review. If Redwing would put the moc toe sole on the Iron Ranger I would be all over it. I find the soft wedge sole more comfortable and safer. I had a pair of the moc toe boots that I gave away because where the upper leather met the boot portion above the heel created a large very uncomfortable ridge that rubbed me bloody raw. Not comfortable at all. I opted then for Redwing's hiker style boot that were great until my dogs ate them. Be careful where you leave your boots after applying mink oil. Lesson learned.
Liked the video before it really even started because one of the first things I happened to see was a CRK lol gotta love em
I go through boots like people go through socks. Gr8 review. This looks like fantastic Quality.
These are recraftable too!
- Mind Blown ... : )
This has perfectly informed me on which boot to buy , I'm going with the iron rangers for its robustness.
Brilliant choice, you won't regret it.
Thanks for the video Andrew, I know it takes a lot of time and effort into creating extremely high quality videos and this upload is no exception.
Co-incidentally you uploaded this the very same day I just bought a pair of 8114's to match my 8166 moc toes! A shame that the only retailer of Red Wings down here in New Zealand is raising their prices to the $700 NZD mark, and paired with the fact that they have limited range, I probably won't be buying any more boots soon.
Also regarding your final note on the videography stuff, I really liked the look of the previous 50mm prime lens with the shallow depth of field, which lets us focus more on you by blurring the distractions of the background. Get your widest possible aperture (smallest number), I think your zoom lens should at least hit 3.5.
Hey Ben, glad to help you make an excellent boot purchase. That's crazy about the price though! I also appreciate your feedback about the lenses; I'm definitely working to improve it.
I'm getting the moc toes soon . I was at the shoe store the other day and for the first time I bought a pair of Redwing loggermax made in America. The boots were 320$ and they are awesome. I wore all other American brands like Thorogood , Danner and Carolinas Domestic line. Word of advice spend the extra money and buy the Redwings the build quality and materials blow the completion away. Make sure you try them on . In the heritage line and work line that I tried on I was a 12 D. Carolinas I wear an 11 , Justin's 10.5 Danners 11 ee. The reviewers will tell you to size down in Redwings so if would have ordered on line I would have went with a 10 and I would be sending them back because they would be too small.
Nice job as always. Video and sound quality is good. 50mm is good for still photography just have to use "shoe zoom".
Thanks Bobby, I appreciate your feedback. Cheers, Andrew
Enjoyed the video good sound and quality
Al
Thanks Al for the feedback! Best, Andrew
Great reviews. Moc toe are in serious need of a resole.
I enjoyed this video I have the iron rangers in oxblood color and I have the 877 moc toes. My iron rangers have the Vibrame sole with lugs on bottom sole much better I think then the cork sole.. I am very happy them!! Your video helped me make my mind up on which to get I got (both)...
You may have figured this out, but when using a camera on a tripod make sure image stabilization on the lens is off. Also, it may be useful to use a wireless shutter remote to achieve focus at the desired distance, so you can do it from in front of the camera.
sound and video was very good
my rangers are holding up , I install hvac units and they have outlasted all my co workers boots.
But I will be changing out the speed hooks, I love them on my other pair but my work boots end up bending the hooks to crap after months of crawling around in attics.
BTW if you are buying iron rangers for a blue collar job get the rough out leather, they will get very ugly ish BUT they will resist cuts WAY more
That's very interesting, thanks for sharing your experience and your excellent tip!
I agree I love both boots, I would say the iron rangers have a better fit in the toe box. I find my moc toe to be more narrow.
I own both 2 pairs of Iron Rangers and 1 pair of Moc Toe. If I had to stand all day and not walk to far the Moc toe is a more comfortable boot but for me they aren't a good walking boots compared to the Iron Rangers. I can walk all day in the Iron Rangers they just feel like a Army boot from the 60's. made for walking.
That cork sole on the iron Rangers wear like iron. I have the same soles on my 1178s for over a year and they're great
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At least two RW employees in this discussion noted these two styles size out the same. I just spoke with a RW employee on the phone who recommended a half size larger in the 875 than I wear in Iron Rangers. I have Iron Rangers and Blacksmith, both in the same size, built on the same last. I want to order 875s, but need advice. Order same size as my Iron Rangers and Blacksmiths, or go a half size bigger?
A half size bigger for the moc toes (875s) from the iron ranger that's what I did and it's perfect for me.
Hi, I have a question about the beckman and moc toe classic. The beckman is claimed with the best leather in the red wing. But besides the shinning of the beckman, what makes the Featherstone the better leather than the pro legacy. does it last longer, thicker or something? thanks
+hao ai probably just nicely finished with fewer imperfections
Looks like you need to resole those 8138s soon.
Definitely in the next year if I keep wearing them regularly
For iron ranger soles, adding a half sole of vibram protects the sole stitching and gives mck traction. I do not understand boots with white soles. Those are common in construction trades where dirt doesnt matter. thank you for explaining videography = audio is OK - no issues.
I have a pair of 875 in 9.5d but i think their a tiny bit long. Would you recomend a 8.5 in the iron rangers i heard they fit bigger or even longer than moc toes.
I rewatch this video a lot because I enjoy the close up detail provided, however I always want to scream, "please...please resole your moc toes..." ha!
Still need to do that :)
Should do a review of some RM Williams shoes if you like these boots, very versatile boots that can last a decade plus!
Thanks for the recommendation!
Haha you the man, and I wish you all the best from England!
Thank you and cheers!
I am considering either of these style of boots. I have the budget Irish Setter of the moc toe boot. It was great once I got a bigger size and they broke in. However the sole is gone in one year from daily use and abuse with work. The cost to resole them is 80% of the original cost of the boot and I don't think its worth the cost to resole on the Irish Setters. I think I were to go with the Moc toe Red Wing Version again I'd go with the 8" version for more ankle support.
However, I love the look of the Iron Ranger better. I just love that early 20th century styling. I am concerned about not giving enough support for my back with 8 hrs on me feet with outdoor work. Are they good with impact shock etc. Are they a real work boot or recreated for fashion?
Which of these would be good for work in dryer climate (Southwest), good for every day work, digging, planing, and grounds keeping. Maybe some concrete work etc.
You're right the Iron Rangers can be dressed up. I get credit form work for a pair of Red Wings on my new job so I'm going to be getting a pair soon. Thx.
Do you have the same size in Iron Ranger and Moc Toe? I currently have the IR and would like to get the MT but can't fit them anywhere nearby so need to order online. Thanks
Great Video man! i have both but definitely prefer the iron rangers.
+Lucas Wattles right on, why do you prefer them?
i have B width feet and the 8 last that the rangers are built on fits my foot a lot better. i also like that you can reheel the rangers which will save you on a whole resole unlike the moc toes. Both are great styles, but the rangers fit a lot better.
Are they both sized the same? Looking at getting one of these. Thanks.
Nice vid, going with the Iron Rangers
Cool, enjoy!!
Looks like your moc toes are ready for resoling like yesterday! I bought the 1907’s, a sturdier moc toe with a steel shank, removable leather insole, and higher toe box. They weigh 1 oz more than my iron rangers without the insole
There is no shank
Not sure if this applies
But I find those moc toe
Irish Setter wing shooter boots are the better feeling boot , the construction feel pretty sturdy also I do believe they have a steel shank , and they can be resoled
I just found them to be a far better walking boot , also have a loop on the back for slipping them on quicker ,
When sizing those wing shooter
I had to go one size smaller from a 13 to a 12
And go to wide size
Also have the Irish setter Ashby moc toe and those run true to size . the Ashby is on the lower end seemingly a very light duty boot with less support . easy on and off cool in the summer time boot
I can not speak on the iron ranger
But they look and seem very sturdy and a very long lasting boot
This might be a dumb question, but how is the iron rangers supposed to fit? Put on a tennissock and if you have some millimetres to spare in the toe department you're good? the capped toe seems so long!
Good question! I'd try them on with crew socks and wool socks.
Would you go half a size up on the Moc to IR? What do you recommend for or described the sizing for a country with no RW shop (New Zealand) to test fitting!! Thanks
Is ok if you moc toe is an inch longer from the tip of you toe to the end of the shoe, I got the rw875 btw. Thanks
Those moc toes are at the epitome of being broken in so it's not surprising that they are more comfortable. Any chance on a follow up video to see if the iron rangers become equally comfort over time?
How do u feel about the footbeds with these boots? I bought the 10875s and the sale reps told me to purchase the footbed. I havent used a footbed in any of my other boots so that was weird, are the red wings very hard on the bottom of the feet?
They are hard at first but they will break in. I don't use footbeds myself
Great video.
What selvedge denim are you rocking at 9:42?? Awesome video, I have had my pair of beckmans for a handful of years now.
Those are a pair of Gooddales. I love Beckmans, I would like to get a pair!
Been struggling with how to style my new 8” Billy Boots from Red Wing. I feel bad cus these are Limited Edition and my first Moc Toe but I can’t find where to fit them in with my wardrobe... any advice you can give would be cool
Try styling them with a parka, straight leg jeans, flanel. A black overcoat would fit them as well if combined with a beanie
Are your redwings true to size or do they run big or small? If they are true to size would you be able to get a wool sock in them? Thanks!
My true size is 8.5 without a redwing store that sells heritage what size would recommend?
I enjoy the quality of this video.
But Iron Ranger still looks so much more sexier in any circumstances.
Loved the video. Keep em coming.
Thanks Chris! Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Andrew
really enjoyed the video. can u also do a caparison on different mink oil or boot oil whichever you use. Also which oil waterproofs best. Thanks
Check out my how-to playlist I believe I have a old waterproofing video!
Can you put arch support in the I.R’S? I have high arches and pretty much need them. Thanks.
Thanks for the comparison. I have the Iron Ranger 8111 and wear them 300 days a year, even on the hot days! I want to get a pair of Redwing moc toe boots-in your experience, is it safe to assume I will be the same size from 8111 to moc toe?
Really enjoyed the vid, mate. I bought my 8111's because of you! :D
I enjoyed the audio quality during the vid but I'm guessing you were too close the mic because you can hear the mouth chomping whilst you talk?
I didn't like the hissing mic at the end of the video.
I think MKBHD (youtuber) does great videos on tech and audio/video gear if I could suggest that.
Glad you liked it, enjoy those Iron Rangers! Yep I watch a ton of MKBHD! Amazing videography. Pretty much the nicest review footage on CZcams.
how do I clean the crepe moc toe sole? they turn black and look dirty quick.
Not easy to keep clean. It turns to a mellow tan after some wear though.
A long walk on sand cleans mine up easily. Same with Clark Desert Boots
Good video, very informative. I had my heart set on the iron rangers but when I tried them on and felt the insole cushioning, or the lack thereof I changed by mind. Are the Moc Toe any better?
lobosps1 mic toe will inherently bee more comfortable, due to the softer composition of the TT sole. Also, try a good pair of merino wool socks with any RW heritage. They have cushioning properties.
In terms of sizing fit, do both Iron Ranger and Moc Toe fit the same? I wear size 8.5 in the Moc Toe, and am wondering if I should get the same for the IR.
I have the 875 and 9075 in 8.5d. I also own 3 pairs of iron ranger in 8.5d. go with the same size
Do you wear the same size in the moc toe as u do the iron ranger? Own the 875 in a sz 11 and am curious as to what size i should go with in the iron ranger
Both 11.5d for me
Hey I was looking to get a pair of red wing 8119 mainly because of the lugged soles that would provide more traction during the winter. But was wondering on the iron ranger what is the width of the toe box? Is it wider than an Oxford or dress boot or roughly the same in comparison? Thanks
Taller than oxfords but not a lot wider in my opinion! Thanks for asking!
The Iron Rangers have a large toe box but snug fit everywhere else. I love them.
+555 Gear thanks for the comment, I'm debating on going down a size or half a size with these. Also debating between the 1000miles or these. Swaying towards iron rangers at the moment to be honest.
+DogWalksMe would you recommend a size down or half?
+ienjoymodels They're pretty true to actual size so if you want a snug fit go with your measured size. If you want them a little looser go a half size up.
Great vid man thank you. I'm a total boots dude. But I just can't get on board with red wings. I mean no disrespect. They all remind me clown shoes far too much. I have cap toe Chippewas currently and they are perfect for me.
Thanks for this mate I have the IR but about to get the mic toes today?
I got a lot out of this
I’m a camera man that’s how I pay the rent
Maybe get a mic stand and bring your ride micro over the top so it’s even closer
And re depth of Feild you want to open your iris all the way ideally 1.8 in a room that size but focus will be tricky not sure how the canon 60 is with that .
Great video, moc toe does it for me.
high quality shoes, high quality video!
Thank you!
Which boot would serve me best for a mild work environment
stone wintjen50 Moc Toes
How do you prevent your insoles from cracking from sweat and use?
Hasn't been a problem for me, but I always wear good absorbent socks
+Idea Called Freedom shoe trees help to absorb moisture. i wore a pair of red wing 3140 without trees for 3 years and the insole started to crack a bit. got some new white's boots and made sure to get some nice cedar shoe trees to protect the insole from moisture and counter act he creases in the vamp when not being worn.
Uhhhhh I live in Yuma, AZ (where it reaches 120 degrees) and wear these everyday. 😂
Good man.
Awesome review, I have the 1907's and love the look of them. I was just wondering do you put an added insole in your moc toes, or just run them with the leather insole? Just curious, cuz the leather insole hurts my feet after a few hours of wearing them on concrete. Thanks
I run mine with just the leather thats originally glued to the inside. Mind came with a leather cushiony insert but the redwing dealer that fitted me recommended that i stick with the built in leathers because they will form to your foot better
Hi, are your moc toes the same size as your iron rangers?
Another great vid! I'm searching for a new pair and this narrowed it down significantly for me. I'm curious if you've owned a pair of Wolverine 1000 mile boots. I like what I'm reading online but can't really find a store close enough to go try some on. Would love your 2 cents.
I haven't owned them but I have had friends who have and who really like them. They have great leather and construction is comparable. I've heard more lemon stories about 1k's for some reason though. But of course if you buy them new you should be able to return them easily.
Great review, thanks!
What are the differences in size and fit between the two?
Great review! Btw do you own red wing chukkas also? I would like to see a review aswell. Cheers!
Thanks!
Great job with this review! I tend to walk landing on the middle of my foot. The iron ranger is missing material in the middle of the sole tho, so I wonder if I'd land on my heel instead. Do you notice this ever?
What do you recommend as sizing? I normally wear a size 10 1/2. I've read that a size less is good with the 8111 iron rangers?
ltx64 Use the Red Wing size chart . I also wear 10.5 bought 8115 tried size 10 &9.5 ended up with size10 Iron Rangers no blisters. measure your foot .I used a metal square I measured 11 inches heel to toe ,Red Wing size chart = a 10
ltx64 I just also bought a pair of Red Wing Irish setter trailblazer 878 size 10.5 they fit great ! difference is they're made in China, ! still a great boot hiking &hunting.
I'm a 10.5 on the moc toe, what size should I get for the iron rangers?
10 i think
Thank You.
I can not get my moc toes to break in!!! I’ve been wearing the crap out of them for three years and still feel like forest Gump every time I wear them! Suggestions? The toe end is still so stiff! Ugh
I've heard coconut oil can help, but i've never used it. Do some research, usually reddit can help with these issues. I don't have the moc toe i have the iron rangers and it does feel like the leather insole is still too stiff and hard but ever since i've been using shoe trees and lacing them up over night they've kinda helped (had them for 4 months doe :3)
Well done review