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Lol I had the 1.08 and have Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, and Bryce young...Drake Maye fell to me and I was so mad cuz I wanted to draft BTJ/Ladd/worthy instead but I couldn't ignore that insane undervalue
That’s AWESOME.
Yep I got him at the 1.07 and wanted BJT. I already have love and purdy
You won’t hate it when someone’s QB gets injured and you get a haul for one of your QB’s while still having 3 good ones
I got Maye at the 2.03 in a 10 team SF
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I picked up Troy in the 2.09 and felt ok with it, the next three receivers off the board (Burton, Wilson and McMillan) I think have a less clear path to being a focal point in their offense, at least for this year. The Nix connection means there is a chance he is the 1 in that team this season, he’s not entering a veteran offense where he is trying to become the QBs go to, a la Pearsall, Legette etc. Also a note I did also pick up Burton and McMillan I love all those guys!
I was able to get Ladd McConkey at the 2.05 in one of my rookie drafts. The guy who went directly in front of him was Troy Franklin. We were all shocked.
Ladd was my guy he went either 201 or 202 i had 203 😭
I got Ladd at 2.04 it’s crazy I was expecting him to go at 1.06
Got odunze at 1.07 and Ladd with the 2.01 pretty hyped about it
Guy in my 1 QB league has already said he is taking Ladd at the 1.05, which seems crazy high for me. I've got the 1.06 and 1.08, and I'm hoping to get Bowers and Brooks with those picks.
@@sergiobomr216I could’ve got odunze at 1.07 but I’m so stacked at wr and Everett is my TE so I had to go with bowers. Couldn’t get anybody to move up.
I got Mitchell at the 3.06, figured that was a steal.
I took Thomas with the 1.09 and with 2.09, 2.10, and 2.11 I took Adonai Mitchell, Troy Franklin, and Roman Wilson. I'm really high on Thomas and Mitchell, and I love the situations that Wilson and Franklin got drafted to. I wanted Legette and Pearsall but they went 2.07 and 2.08.
10 team, start 9. Superflex. Should I trade #12 or #15 for Jaxon Smith Njigba?
My main league draft ended yesterday (1QB). Franklin went 1.12, Rice went 3.06, and Tez went 3.09.
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See, I’ve been following how you guys move but I get players for value but ALOT of my league is still stuck on the name on the jersey and not the price. So it’s hard to be great lol
At this point i think it’s about getting your guy.
I was a I shouldn’t bet against history kinda guy with Trey Lance and Brock purdy and lo and behold the last pick of the draft outshined the 1st round guy.
The profiles for Troy and baker and Burton are all great and the landing spots for them are great too. Rec perception for them are all solid and compared to the other guys like leggett smith and Mitchell they out produced all of them. I look at it like those guys have traits the nfl looks for but if you haven’t produced with those traits before how likely will you in the league imo
I had the 1.02 1.07. 1.08 in a 2qb 2te dynasty league. My QBs are Love and Herbert. I passed on Jayden and took Marv at 2. Then got Odunze and Maye at 7/8. Did I blow it passing on Daniels?
For Marv? Hell no
I had rookie pick 1.02 and traded it for 1.05 (became Maye) and Davonte Smith. It was huge for my rebuild
Franklin went 2.08 in our rookie 14 man. I got Legett at 3.01. Feels like a steal.
Only one I drafted from here was Adonai at the 2.11. I also traded back from the 1.03 for Nabers
I totally see the point of the draftcapital of a 4th-round WR, but have you read the top 5 names of the list of players who actually went nuts? I'm actually fine throwing the dart on Franklin at the end of the 2nd-round.🤷♂️ If it hits, it's bigger than having a RB with maybe 1-2 okay seasons.
fair enough - you do you!!
I drafted Franklin at the 2.08 in the Dynasty Land Bravo League. I took over an orphan team last year and my team was awful so I am in the middle of a 2-3 year rebuild. I had the 1.02 that I couldn’t trade back from for the life of me so I took MHJ to pair with Kyler. I then had the 2.02, 2.09, 3.02, and 4.02. Benson was the best value on the board at the 2.02 but being in a significant rebuild, I hate building around RB’s when they might be useless by the time I am ready to compete and prefer to build around WR’s. So I traded the 2.02 for the 2.07, 2.08, and 3.08. I walked away form the draft with MHJ(1.02), Adonai(2.07), Franklin(2.08), Polk(2.09), Mcmillan(3.02), Ray Davis(3.08), and Tyrone Tracy(4.02). Keon, Pearsall, and Legette were all gone before the 2.07 otherwise those guys would have been my picks. I also took Franklin that high because while I agree that the hit rate is low, the athleticism is there despite him not having the best combine and he does get a boost in my opinion going to a team with very little competition in the way of targets and he gets paired with his college QB.
My draft went really well in my 10 man superflex dynasty
1.02-Marvin Harrison jr 2.02-Ladd McConkey 2.04-Bo nix 3.04-Ricky pearsall 4.04-javon baker . My RBs are cmc and jamyir Gibbs and have great depth behind and my wrs were London and Kirk and the 2023 class minus zay and Addison :(. Qbs Herbert , Goff, mac, Howell, zappe, lock….
Hey guys! New to the channel! I am doing a start up draft here at the end of may. 10 man Superflex. Pick 4 in the first round. Do i trade back? IF i stay at 4, do i draft a QB first round? just looking for a recommendation !
If it’s a super flex I would definitely recommend taking a quarterback in the first round. Trading back could be a good option as people often undervalue later round picks in startup drafts. Just depends on the offer you get
@@ajhughes The only offer that someone has given me so far is Pick swap (He takes 4 i take 10) He gives me his 3rd round pick and i give him an 8th. Thoughts?
And there is a TE premium! Forgot to mention that
@@joshlauer9106 I would take that. Moving up 5 rounds for 6 picks is great value. I would still target a qb at pick 10 too
12 TM 1 SF TEP - trust the process.
Sent 2025 1st for Tyjae/2.08. Rough one but wanted into draft and RBs were mondre and not much else.
TLaw/2.08 for 1.05/1.08 - took maye on the clock and then got JJ at 1.08 (wanted bowers to fall).
JJM/Reed for 1.12/2.02/2.08 - took brooks, Benson, sinnott. The exact 3 I wanted at these picks.
Higgins/Warren/Mingo for 2.11/Javonte/25 2nd/3rd. Legette was there at 2.11. Also wanted some draft capital for more moves.
I got him at 2.12. Kind of regret passing on Jaylen Wright but regardless don’t think it was too bad there
I had 10 picks in my draft and didn’t draft any of these players lol good on me.
12T-1QB-PPR; here’s how it went.
1.05 - WR Brian Thomas Jr.
1.09 - TRADED for RB Kenneth Walker
2.08 - RB Jaylen Wright
3.03 - WR Jermaine Burton
3.09 - WR Jalen McMillan
3.12 - QB JJ McCarthy
4.06 - WR Jacob Cowing
4.08 - RB Isaac Guerendo
5.03 - RB Isiah Davis
5.06 - TE Theon Johnson
5.12 - WR Ainias Smith
Honestly my first 6 picks were all target guys that I got later than I was willing to take them. As usual the rest are dart throws, but anything can happen lol
I traded the 1.08, my 2025 1st, Aaron Rodgers, and Rhamondre Stevenson for Jordan Love, Devonta Smith, and the 3.07 which I used to draft Malachi Corley
You guys say that UDFA's never make the roster, here's an interesting stat #Seahawks WR Doug Baldwin is one of the greatest undrafted WRs of all-time.
Among UDFA WRs, Baldwin ranks:
5th in Receptions (493)
8th in receiving yards (6,563)
T-3rd in TDs (49)
5th in Receiving Yards per game (53.4)
All in only 123 games.
Yes, he is for sure one of the biggest outliers ever. He was awesome.
On the note of Troy Franklin though he also had the third or fourth most YPRR and that’s the most telling metric for NFL success I believe he also had almost 1400 yards which puts him in good company too so there are some metrics where he should be drafted round 1 it’s just the capital which puts him in bad company
No Nix fell to me at the 2.01 in my last draft but I had already taken Maye at 1.05 so I didn’t want to double dip on the 50/50 rookie QB bet.
I chickened out and went with Trey Benson since I already had Maye, Stroud, Tua, and Deshaun.
I feel fine with the pick tho
I had Jayden Daniels fall to me at 1.07, I think it was a good pick.
Someone in my league took Troy Franklin at the 1.10 over Ladd, Legette, Keon, Pearsall. Ended up trading back in at 2.06 to snatch up Keon for a Josh Allen stack.
Are you fading Daniels in 1QB or just superflex? I see the value in JJ in superflex but in 1QB Jayden's boom/bust potential is a lot more appealing than JJ who could be good and not fantasy relevant
I agree with you for the most part about listening to NFL Draft capital.
However, I drafted AD Mitchell over Pearsall and Legette at 2.06 because of talent and being 2 years younger.
I have enough shares of Jamo, Dotson, Burks, QJ, Bateman, even JSN sitting on benches in my leagues to know that the NFL's judgement on 1st round WR's is not beyond reproach.
And I didn't even mention Reagor, N'Keal, Ruggs, Ross, Corey Davis, Kadarious, etc, who aren't even on benches anymore.
Let's not forget Treadwell. Or maybe we should. Ha.
Jonathan mingo was drafted 8 spots behind Legette. Panthers have not gave me any reason to trust their draft picks. I do hope brooks works out
Yeah we were so out on Mingo too. I think Brooks is a boss
Would it be dumb to take MarShawn Lloyd late in the first round as a Jacobs owner? I have two 1st round picks and my next pick wont be until late 3rd round
Yeah that's a value reach
I had the 1.04 and went with Daniels and somehow Maye fell to my 2.03 pick so I took them both. What should I do?
Trade Daniels
Yeah either move Daniels or just take both really good values
I’m a duck fan so I took Bo nix in the middle of second and Troy beginning of 3rd haha
I had the 1.07 took Johnathan brooks. 2.07 took adonai mitchell 3.07 took Jalen McMillan traded 4.07 and Alec peirce for 4.04 and took Isaac guerendo. Put stephon diggs and najee harris on trade block
got Franklin at the 3.02 lol
Good value
Same here. 3.02 1 qb felt like a screaming value.
I got Franklin 2.12 and think the statistic cannot be accurate as draft classes are different and a 4 round reciever this year where would he have gone in last years class
Yep I’m with you. Not saying you should ignore draft capital because it obviously signals something about a players talent. But it is important to consider the context. Even better would be to use metrics that more directly measure a players talent.
Guy with the #1 pick took Williams so I had to go with Marv at 1.02. Also had the 1.03 and traded it (Daniels) for Bryce Young and the 1.06 (Maye).
And somehow got BTJ at the 2.03
I took Maye at 1.05 and I’m a die hard pats fan so I’m happy with it 😂
Yeah I love it
Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye fell to me at 1.07 in a SF league. couldnt pass up on Daniels.
That’s fantastic value and you absolutely take Daniels
I’ve been in two super flex leagues which he fell to the 3.10 and 3.04 respectively. I don’t hate the price
Seems like yall are focusing more on the fact of him getting drafted over other people that he shouldn’t be going over though. So I get it
hes a SMASH at those prices.
Caleb fell to me at the 1.03 and I traded my 1.03 and 2.03 for JJetas 1.30 and a 2nd next year
agree with yall on Franklin but completely disagree on Daniels.
Fair enough
Why isn’t anyone talking about Sione Vaki? Lions are giving up on Montgomery after this year. Vaki will be RB2 next year
The frequency at which Jayden Daniels abandons CLEAN pockets is alarming. He had amazing blocking in college, which he won't at the NFL. I feel like he's going to run way too often in the NFL and see ghosts in the pocket. This will mean he has less times to get through reads and also ultimately means he's more likely to get hurt eventually given his frame.
Stuff like that on his film is kinda where we are cautious. But we are also not scouts so
I actually traded out of 1.03 to someone that wanted Jayden Daniels there and it’s a 1qb league
as with any sells video, this is only our opinion and you should go with your gut if you desire!!
where did you guys have adonai for wrs predraft
I was that guy talking shit. One year down yeah I made 2k
But I also was a big dumbass in a lot of trades so I’m here to hear more sides
Jayden Daniels absolutely has a higher ceiling than Drake Maye. Y’all crazy
You're free to draft Daniels! We're just discussing their respective prices in this video and our personal thoughts on what we would do. Doesn't mean we're right, just trying to help you win your league.
JD is a great pick for a competing team. I think Maye will be better in a few years, but he might play less than half the games this year.
Agreed but he also isn’t a good qb and will be on the fields trajectory
in my home league 1QB 10 man PPR
1.03 Nabers
1.06 Brooks
1.08 Benson
1.10 Coleman
2.01 Worhty
2.03 Franklin
2.08 Maye
2.09 Mitchell
3.05 Estime
3.10 Javon Baker
5.02 All
6.01 Tyrone Tracy Jr
Where did Sinnot and J Sanders fall if u dont mind
I think the only 1 I disagree with is Rice. I think his landing spot is what is currently driving his draft stock. No Allen/Williams with QJ being sub par, that WR room is going to be an open competition with Ladd clearly expected to be 1 or 2 leaving Rice to compete with QJ/Palmer/Chark for WR2-3. Not comparing him directly to ARSB or London, but similar in that they didn’t exactly wow with stats at USC. Rice finished with 16 tds in 2 seasons vs 15 for London in 3 seasons and 16 for ARSB in 3 seasons. He’s also clear in avg YPC against the other 2 during his time there…just think the potential is there to warrant late 3rd/early 4th draft capital…that’s all, yall are still great!
Again, I’m not exactly a Rice truther, but I think his landing spot and production alongside Caleb puts him a little higher than other rookies being drafted in rookie drafts…
I get it but also I don’t, he’s a 7th rounder. A 7th rounder could go to a team with no WR and I’d be skeptical
I'm extremely high on Mitchell. I think he falls into an early WR3 at worst. He is my Tank Dell this year.
Love that take. I am tempted as well because I love the fit. -Avery
I have started to hear quite often, “this is where the NFL drafted him”. I think all of us have to be careful with that. You could say the team that makes a pick is the highest a player would have gotten picked. But that might not be the case. For example, a team may have a second round grade on a player and not have any picked in the 2-3 rounds, and also maybe not want to spend their first round capital in the next draft. So, they would have drafted in RD2, but the player may end up going late 3. I agree in general these guys get selected where their value is, but let’s just recognize there is a little bit of flex in where they could have gone.
while that is true and I agree, a team that has a 2nd round grade on someone who falls to the 4th means that 31 other teams passed on the dude once or twice over (roughly). because if any 4 other teams would have had a 2nd round grade on him, he would have been drafted in the 2nd.
players that are consensus 2nd round grades by NFL teams do not fall that far. I get what you're saying, but trying to defend why we said that a bit. thanks for watching!
Troy Franklin was drafted over Laguette and Pearsall lol
i drafted troy franklin bc he slipped a lot, but traded him for dallas goedert last night
Yeah gotta take the value!
To the dudes drafting Brendan Rice and Frank Gore Jr. because of their dads. 😂😂😂 Thank you!!!
Right?
Franklin has the Tank Dell vibe. The rookie QB (Nix) wanted him, Stroud wanted Dell. Difference is Nix played college ball with Franklin. Lets also add in the fact the WR room in Denver is ASS, Denver will be playing catch up alot. Franklin is gonna good
Caleb fell to me at the 1.08. Everyone undervaluing qbs
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Saw Brenden Rice go for a 26 1st lol
LOL WHAT
Drake maye fell to the 2.03 in my superflex rookie draft 😂
I dont watch college football so i have to ask. Why did Jerry Rice's son get drafted so late, especially in the extreme opposite of MH's son?? Wasnt he Calebs top WR? If so, he cant be garbage, right?
Not the most athletic guy and not the greatest college production, but he was still projected to go much earlier than the 7th round (3-5 range) and the lack of college production isn't entirely his fault, he had a rough string of bad luck before landing at USC. I am higher on him than most but I agree that I would take him with a late 4th as an end-of-roster dart throw at best.
Fantasy stock exchange’s model says Franklin was severely underdrafted in the NFL draft. I think I’ll take the risk in the 3rd round
You can check our own model courtesy of Ryan Bread in our post draft WR rankings video.
I can’t speak to their model but I can speak to his because Ryan did a really good job with it.
Oh also third round price is totally cool for Franklin. It’s late 2 we can’t get behind!
Jayden Daniels went in the 1.05 in a 1 QB league. I clutched my pearls.
Woof.
@@thedynastydomain it’s good because I had the 1.02 1.09, 1.11, 1.12 I was able to get Nabers and McConkey so far so all the value just slides down to me!
I care way more about opportunity than draft capital. Last year had tons of RB with great draft capital all to be back ups that never saw opportunity. If you are likely to start as a rookie 4-6th rounder give me that all day over a 2nd or 3rd rounder guaranteed to be a back up
for running backs this is sometimes true. but analytically speaking, opportunity does not equal production or value.
Select Rice as the last pick for team naming purpose. Rice Up. Or The Rice of Skyy-Walker
Those team names are terrible 😂
Please have timestamps for your videos
Got jj. McCarthy at 1.06 cause i was sold and then drake maye fell to 2.04!?!! I had to take him
11 dumb owners in that league
I got Tez at the 4.01 and tbh I like his situation. It’s not high upside since he can’t really beat out zay or andrews. But there is pretty much no competition. Batemans a dud and agholor is garbage. Odell is gone and tez can definitely have a few flash games where he would turn in to a guy people want next offseason
Yeah we aren’t super high on him at that price but go with your gut
Who's selling a top draft pick in preseason? And you do it all the time? If you successfully pulled that off once (Garrett Wilson) no player worth their salt would do that type of trade in the same league. Do you play in free ESPN leagues with randoms?
See it every year. Not every league is your league dude. We play in dozens of leagues ourselves and we help hundreds of people in thousands of leagues. We see more than you can imagine
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I got nebors and Rome at 1.03-4 and somehow maye fell to me to me at 2.01
This has to be 1QB
I got daniels at the 1.06 and maye at the 1.12. 2qb league. It was crazy
@@NathanBrown-ve2uryou are in what they call a dumb league
@@NathanBrown-ve2ur Must have league mates that play like it’s redraft.
I literally seen Brendan Rice go at the 2.09 in super flex…
you are kidding 😂😂
Dude, I wish I could send a screenshot. Because the 2.11 pick was just as stupid.
Troy Franklin is still undrafted in rd 4
If he makes it there take him
If I can Sell Daniels for Maye and McCarthy I will. If I can trade Daniels for Maye and a 1st I will. Do not talk about any type of talent evaluators you trust when Adam Peters is the guy who took Daniels over Maye. Adam Peters is one of the best NFL GMs easily.
Adonai Mitchell is gonna turn up
Yall laughed at me and didn’t even provide your thought. But Ladd and Kupp are comparable
10 out of 140ish is ~7%.
ive seen Brenden Rice go as high as 2.03 and 2.10 in some of my leagues
what?!!
I got Troy at 3.4
I like that value, just wouldn’t draft him first or second round
Really good value
As soon as you said Jayden Daniels, clicked off the video. Such a wild take.
We're here to try and help you win your leagues. If you want to draft Jayden Daniels and think we're wrong, that's absolutely fine. There's nothing stopping you! We're just as likely to be wrong as we could be right.
Legette fell to 2.09 for me
I didn’t know you were Colts fans.
GOOD we are hiding our fandom
I think this video is objectively bad for 3 reasons.
1. The title is super misleading
2. You both agree on everything which isn't very interesting as a listener
3. The Troy Franklin take seems really bad because it's entirely based on one factor (draft capitol). Troy Franklins measurables, breakout age, college production etc are all near the top of this draft class. I think the NFL got this one wrong. Mid to late second seems perfectly reasonable for a guy with his talent, profile, and opportunity.
I mean sure if you don’t like it but that’s quite literally the definition of subjective. Thats entirely your own opinion 😂
1) you have zero idea how to run a youtube channel or the corresponding business (clearly)
2) There are times when we agree and disagree, but this is again the definition of preference and subjectivity
3) “the NFL got this one wrong” is a claim we don’t go around making since we don’t proclaim to be professional scouts or anything like that, and it’s really hilarious you using this as a reason this video is “objectively” bad since you also are clearly not a person so qualified either
subjectively bad comment. I’d give it like a 2.7/10. That’s just me tho
@@thedynastydomain lmaooo butthurt and can't take constructive criticism or reply to a well contrived comment without violating their own YT comment guidelines. You guys are doing great 😂
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Love watching your content fellas but y’all acting like Daniels can’t throw. Guy put together one of the best college years in a far superior conference. He’s not just a rusher. Plenty of nfl scouts and prior players GMs had Daniel’s as there top QB. I think there both exciting and wish em the best
Nah he can throw for sure. He has a really good deep ball, but ultimately his short-intermediate game, especially while sitting in the pocket, is what will need to develop. He totally good. We know he has a good arm and can throw
I will push back, no NFL scout or GM had Daniels above Williams. Caleb was widely regarded as the best prospect.
Just a little context on the Troy Franklin pick, Denver traded a mid 4th, early 5th and a late 6th to move up to the 4.02 to draft him.
All that draft capital equals more than the 4.02 and he was paired up with his college QB. Context matters. This isn't a Velus Jones situation here
I’m hoping Daniel’s becomes another Justin fields for about 2/3 years where he became a literal cheat code because of dj Moore and having to run for his life constantly
If Daniels is the next Fields, that's all the more reason to sell. I hope he's much better than that 😬
Troy franklin fans forgot about marvin mims already. Wasted pick
You need to retitle this video. I assure you that you would touch jayden if you needed a QB and someone thought like you and took caleb and maye before you and jayden was there.
Okay but that's kinda the point. Market is not taking Maye over Daniels. In fact, they're going as far as 4 rounds apart in some startups. It's about the price more than our opinion of the player
These guys do not know ball whatsoever
Some are saying that
Daniels>maye & Franklin>legette all day
I took them both so who cares lol
Avery sell me Ridley for AD 😂
No
I picked up Troy in the 2.09 and felt ok with it, the next three receivers off the board (Burton, Wilson and McMillan) I think have a less clear path to being a focal point in their offense, at least for this year. The Nix connection means there is a chance he is the 1 in that team this season, he’s not entering a veteran offense where he is trying to become the QBs go to, a la Pearsall, Legette etc. Also a note I did also pick up Burton and McMillan I love all those guys!