So here's a question: They're talking about hitting the ground with their packs when saving the wounded soldier costing a finger. I'm GUESSING they're talking about setting off AP mines with the packs intentionally on their way out, rather than stepping on them?
Yes, but remember it's a desperation move. Minefields are always covered by automoatic fire (and ilumination). You don't want to get caught in that kill zone, so the drill with the packs is the lesser of two evils. Very risky, but at least you're moving out of the kill zone.
11:52 Or it ay be a dummy with the real one just a few feet the other side of it, catching the patrol out when they do their drills to cross the dummy one and intiating the real device when they go to ground after negotiating the dummy wire.
I'm guessing here, but the same phrase was used in the 'fighting patrol' video, in reference to what would now be called the Ready Reaction Force, or Quick Reaction Force (QRF) to help out if the smaller element gets into trouble. In this example I assume it is just another recce patrol that would be on standby in case of any dramas, hence why the Standby PC sits in on orders so he knows all the details. Great vids by the way and thanks to the uploader, excellent stuff.
It could make sense that the 2IC (deputy leader of a section) would know about the (Operations Order) OPORD of the patrol whilst the Section IC would have Charlie Fireteam to conduct recon. It could even be argued that the Standby Patrol Commander could be another Section IC for another section to reinforce the recon fireteam if they have failed to return back to base or in this case their Platoon Harbour/ Company Holding Area.
They visit the Standing Patrol during the film. Doctrinally there has never been a 'Standby Patrol'.... At the time of the film, 3 types of patrolling; Recce, Fighting and Standing...
Matt Edwards they thinking ahead on lsw front. have remember that time period dealing with officers and NCOs get use new weapons been put into service.
"Once the recce commander gets his orders, his first task is to begin writing condolence letters to the parents and spouse of the recce team."
These videos always made it look so complicated, I really enjoyed giving formal patrol orders the rehearsal and the actual patrol.
was it your land you were patrolling, or the land of richer, wiser men ?
im thinking you were some kind of armed pawn ?
@@888ssss Sounds like someone's jealous.
A battalion attack with 36 hours notice. Wild.
Don't look at me, I always got lost on the way from RV1 onwards............
can't beleive that this is already 33+ years old, with the first generation SA80. thanks for sharing.
I remember being shown this before a - for me - shite night night on Barossa in 1987!
Some classic training vids mate! I remember bits and bobs here and there...
keep them coming please
looking forward to it
The next episode FIGHTING patrol coming soon!
Seems similar to how the U.S. Army conducts infantry reconnaissance, minus the pack demining drill.
So here's a question: They're talking about hitting the ground with their packs when saving the wounded soldier costing a finger. I'm GUESSING they're talking about setting off AP mines with the packs intentionally on their way out, rather than stepping on them?
@@billdickson1142 it does work, counter intuitive but better than walking on them. I know the patrol commander from my service 1978 to 1991.
Yes, but remember it's a desperation move. Minefields are always covered by automoatic fire (and ilumination). You don't want to get caught in that kill zone, so the drill with the packs is the lesser of two evils. Very risky, but at least you're moving out of the kill zone.
Why are some cammies a light Grey hue?
11:52 Or it ay be a dummy with the real one just a few feet the other side of it, catching the patrol out when they do their drills to cross the dummy one and intiating the real device when they go to ground after negotiating the dummy wire.
Question: What's the primary role of the "Standby Patrol Commander"?
By the way these videos are very helpful and interesting :)
I'm guessing here, but the same phrase was used in the 'fighting patrol' video, in reference to what would now be called the Ready Reaction Force, or Quick Reaction Force (QRF) to help out if the smaller element gets into trouble. In this example I assume it is just another recce patrol that would be on standby in case of any dramas, hence why the Standby PC sits in on orders so he knows all the details.
Great vids by the way and thanks to the uploader, excellent stuff.
I assume its the 2ic
I think it's 'Standing Patrol Commander'.
It could make sense that the 2IC (deputy leader of a section) would know about the (Operations Order) OPORD of the patrol whilst the Section IC would have Charlie Fireteam to conduct recon. It could even be argued that the Standby Patrol Commander could be another Section IC for another section to reinforce the recon fireteam if they have failed to return back to base or in this case their Platoon Harbour/ Company Holding Area.
They visit the Standing Patrol during the film. Doctrinally there has never been a 'Standby Patrol'.... At the time of the film, 3 types of patrolling; Recce, Fighting and Standing...
His mustache is out of regulation...
POWLEECE THAT MOOSTACHE
Whose regulation?
What kind of headgear are they wearing?
Cap Comforters
What's FUP?
Forming up point
Form-Up Point. It's a pre-determined location where the Battalion elements form up to conduct an attack.
This brings back memories I would need re training agian 40 years ago for me but I till remember some of it
pawn patrol.
*Someone's jealous.*
it cant have been made in 1985 as the LSW didn't come about until 86
Matt Edwards they thinking ahead on lsw front. have remember that time period dealing with officers and NCOs get use new weapons been put into service.
+alex bonham also they'd use new equipment for a training video
It began to be issued in '86, but it had been developed before that.
Radio Operator is the ears of the Patrol ?
All the radio traffic, and white noise/mush coming through the earphones.
Disagree.